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Anyone who has interacted with him knows AAs real name since he has dropped it over a dozen times in this thread alone.

He is quite well known on several chat sites and is banned from some because of his demeanor and over the top posts.
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not one person on this site on the other 2 sites I followed him EVER caught/beat/picked holes in AA's technical data/theories....EVER....that is some feat imo....
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Anyone who has interacted with him knows AAs real name since he has dropped it over a dozen times in this thread alone.

He is quite well known on several chat sites and is banned from some because of his demeanor and over the top posts.
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not one person on this site on the other 2 sites I followed him EVER caught/beat/picked holes in AA's technical data/theories....EVER....that is some feat imo....
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Every one of his claims on this thread have been proven false.

Good to know you learned how to use a poxy and change your flag AA

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Anyone who has interacted with him knows AAs real name since he has dropped it over a dozen times in this thread alone.

He is quite well known on several chat sites and is banned from some because of his demeanor and over the top posts.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29820852


not one person on this site on the other 2 sites I followed him EVER caught/beat/picked holes in AA's technical data/theories....EVER....that is some feat imo....
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Every one of his claims
on this thread have been proven false.

Good to know you learned how to use a poxy and change your flag AA

chuckle
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anyone who is very intelligent and interested in this kind of thing knows the answer to your first line without ever having to read anything.charlie

agent 74444 (or the CIA peeps/scientists who are agent 74444) are very intelligent and clever......far too clever for people of my level of intellect. However they could never 'beat' AA on the technical stuff.....NEVER.
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Well compliments to 74444 and his data base and time, but as far as cataloging and reading this thread in a short amount of time Parvati was doing perhaps the best to catalog it all, until she had some freak-out-and-erase-it-all incident. She must have been a believing type as she suggests, otherwise she would not have blown up when AA hit back on her like a rattlesnake, like he does to many of us quite often.
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Imagine the bottom chart on here, [link to www.solarham.com] but with the chart lines exceeding far above the highest value on it...
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This page has now been REMOVED. WTF?
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Well compliments to 74444 and his data base and time, but as far as cataloging and reading this thread in a short amount of time Parvati was doing perhaps the best to catalog it all, until she had some freak-out-and-erase-it-all incident. She must have been a believing type as she suggests, otherwise she would not have blown up when AA hit back on her like a rattlesnake, like he does to many of us quite often.
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He bites everyone that dares to point out he has no discernible knowledge on much of anything even remotely involving science.


Seat of the pants arm chair physicist

He ha singlehandedly held back any real discussion of what really happened on 9/11 by blustering absolute nonsense.

To my eye he is helping his own opposition with his astonishing ego and inflated self worth.
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Anyone who has interacted with him knows AAs real name since he has dropped it over a dozen times in this thread alone.

He is quite well known on several chat sites and is banned from some because of his demeanor and over the top posts.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29820852


not one person on this site on the other 2 sites I followed him EVER caught/beat/picked holes in AA's technical data/theories....EVER....that is some feat imo....
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I would say that the cataclysmic failure of his prediction shoots your whole "EVER" theory to crap. All of his "technical/data/theories" led to this grand prediction.
He is probably hiding under some rock too ashamed to show his face. Obviously anyone still defending his crackpot theory and ideas and "data" is utterly dilusional themselves.
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I said I would leave this thread.. and did.
Since the world hasn't ended, yet.. I'd like to weigh in while I still can.

I may have been wrong in thinking there was
monkey business going on with the posters and id numbers.. but I don't think I was..
Can't be sure AA had anything to do with that.. although he poo-pooed the idea..
Can't imagine why..

If he'd endorsed the info as manipulation.. I would have believed him. As it is.. he didn't.
Maybe he thought it was a trivial point.
His reply was that no one could impersonate him.
I agree with that..
It was that very thing that made me suspicious.. they
were not able to fool me.
As a writer, I have a very good ear
for dialogue and word usage.
The way those posters
laid words out was completely different than AA.
And I can't imagine him spelling his own moniker wrong.. on multiple occasions..
I'll leave further speculation on that issue with others.

His personal views on certain peoples turns me off.
His arrogance.. there are many arrogant people in the world. Not that unusual.
His intelligence, however, can't be denied.

The main thing that makes me tend to be somewhat in his corner, in all of this..
is the fact that certain posters are on him like a duck on a junebug..
One being menow.
I just dislike that poster...

Whomever the poster that I recognize as AA is, I wish him the best.
Life is short.

Merry Christmas, y'all.
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Anyone who has interacted with him knows AAs real name since he has dropped it over a dozen times in this thread alone.

He is quite well known on several chat sites and is banned from some because of his demeanor and over the top posts.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29820852


not one person on this site on the other 2 sites I followed him EVER caught/beat/picked holes in AA's technical data/theories....EVER....that is some feat imo....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30649078


I would say that the cataclysmic failure of his prediction shoots your whole "EVER" theory to crap. All of his "technical/data/theories" led to this grand prediction.
He is probably hiding under some rock too ashamed to show his face. Obviously anyone still defending his crackpot theory and ideas and "data" is utterly dilusional themselves.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29341887


Fully agree. His grand theory was a complete and utter failure, it picked a gaping hole in itself by being completely and unconditionally wrong. It's almost as if these people believe that 90% of the world really did die yesterday and the "shills" are just keeping the truth from them.
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I said I would leave this thread.. and did.
Since the world hasn't ended, yet.. I'd like to weigh in while I still can.

I may have been wrong in thinking there was
monkey business going on with the posters and id numbers.. but I don't think I was..
Can't be sure AA had anything to do with that.. although he poo-pooed the idea..
Can't imagine why..

If he'd endorsed the info as manipulation.. I would have believed him. As it is.. he didn't.
Maybe he thought it was a trivial point.
His reply was that no one could impersonate him.
I agree with that..
It was that very thing that made me suspicious.. they
were not able to fool me.
As a writer, I have a very good ear
for dialogue and word usage.
The way those posters
laid words out was completely different than AA.
And I can't imagine him spelling his own moniker wrong.. on multiple occasions..
I'll leave further speculation on that issue with others.

His personal views on certain peoples turns me off.
His arrogance.. there are many arrogant people in the world. Not that unusual.
His intelligence, however, can't be denied.

The main thing that makes me tend to be somewhat in his corner, in all of this..
is the fact that certain posters are on him like a duck on a junebug..
One being menow.
I just dislike that poster...

Whomever the poster that I recognize as AA is, I wish him the best.
Life is short.

Merry Christmas, y'all.
 Quoting: Waterbug


Wouldn't you expect said "shills" to be wrong then, and everyone should be dead by now? Think about it for just one minute please. Is reason completely impossible on this site?
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The main thing that makes me tend to be somewhat in his corner, in all of this..
is the fact that certain posters are on him like a duck on a junebug..

 Quoting: Waterbug


The reason people are on him is because of the way he treated anyone who saw things differently. As opposed to saying here is the proof, he would say things like I have the proof, but you dont need to see it. He made so many personal attacks that he asks for these guys to come in here and be all over him. If he hadnt made it personal then nobody would have cared.

Dont think there are any schills on this one, just a bunch of people with personal reasons to see AA's ego popped.
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AC 18342848 ... " Is reason completely impossible on this site ?"

YES, now that you have added YOUR insanity ! You must be fag that has been jilted..... you certainly sound like one, lol !
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Well I think Agent 74444 has a pretty compelling case, but anon. Astrophysicist has too...

We'll know in a week but it looks like AA will be the one with splaning to do...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15368593


Yes, I would if my prediction fails. IF.
I wouldn't count on it though.
I am accessing information that correlates with my own conclusions based on real science of the electric universe, information that has a 100% accuracy rate to within a time window of seconds.

I am also basing my predictions on the fact pf the intelligent design of the universe.

These "things" have days to live.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1288196



AA pretty much sums up everything with this one post. Nothing more to see here move along, the train wreck is over, lol.
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I said I would leave this thread.. and did.
Since the world hasn't ended, yet.. I'd like to weigh in while I still can.

I may have been wrong in thinking there was
monkey business going on with the posters and id numbers.. but I don't think I was..
Can't be sure AA had anything to do with that.. although he poo-pooed the idea..
Can't imagine why..

If he'd endorsed the info as manipulation.. I would have believed him. As it is.. he didn't.
Maybe he thought it was a trivial point.
His reply was that no one could impersonate him.
I agree with that..
It was that very thing that made me suspicious.. they
were not able to fool me.
As a writer, I have a very good ear
for dialogue and word usage.
The way those posters
laid words out was completely different than AA.
And I can't imagine him spelling his own moniker wrong.. on multiple occasions..
I'll leave further speculation on that issue with others.

His personal views on certain peoples turns me off.
His arrogance.. there are many arrogant people in the world. Not that unusual.
His intelligence, however, can't be denied.

The main thing that makes me tend to be somewhat in his corner, in all of this..
is the fact that certain posters are on him like a duck on a junebug..
One being menow.
I just dislike that poster...

Whomever the poster that I recognize as AA is, I wish him the best.
Life is short.

Merry Christmas, y'all.
 Quoting: Waterbug


Wouldn't you expect said "shills" to be wrong then, and everyone should be dead by now? Think about it for just one minute please. Is reason completely impossible on this site?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18342848


I did not say I thought he was right or wrong.
His predictions and their outcomes are well-covered by others.
Everything he said would happen could still come to pass...
Omniscience is the folly of fools.
No person in this world is perfect...
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I have not posted as of yet on this thread since several hours before the event I predicted was supposed to occur. I see of course I have been accused of 'sock puppeting' for myself, but one thing I am noted for is my unimpeachable honesty, and this is my first post since the night of the 21st.
For my not so well organized detractors and opponents, it was probably seen as a cop out or the shame of being wrong motivating me, which of course if you out much thought into it is not actually the case. I have been wrong before and I will be again, and the error could lie anywhere amongst several uncertain variables involved, and I am working on solving that. It is most likely a result of a timing error, like any person who has worked on a problem of this nature it is easy to see how the timing could be in error.

If you put much thought into it, it wouldn't be hard to figure out I spent the last hours in a protected enviroment and refrained from posting to avoid having my location pinpointed.

As for being wrong , in my opinion none of my detractors here should be crowing so loudly, and their pride in tearing me down because of it will be a cause for deep regret for them , of that {b] I AM CERTAIN.

The cleansing will occur. That is a certainty.I would be willing to bet my last dollar not a single one of my hecklers is breathing a sigh of relief and their fear is evident in their words to the

I gave the odds at 98.5%. Not 100%. While 1.5% might seem like long odds and it is, there was always a chance I would miss the timing for several different reasons and I knew it.
That is why I did not declare an absolute certainty on the timing, but the event will occur, and the strange activity of the Sun for whatever reason made my model for predicting geo effective solar events useless. Somewhere in the past months I discussed this in more detail and I refrained from making specific predictions of solar flaring and coronal mass ejections past that point.

As many have noticed and commented on, Sunspots became dormant, some of them quite large, as they rotated into a geo effective position. NO ONE offered any theory as to why other than crazy theories like the intervention of aliens and 'angels' or whatever.

The fact that there WAS in fact a Sunspot that was precisely in the center of the Suns disk at the moment I predicted the event would occur is key in understanding how and why the prediction was not complete failure. The increasingly unstable crust, strange noises, volcanic activity and radically altered weather ARE NOT the result caused "human caused global warming" like EVERY SINGLE ONE of my very vocal detractors have at the bottom of their agenda to have you believe.

Why geo effective sunspots became inactive is a total mystery to me and involves some factor outside my range of experience and knowledge. As I said, I am working on solving that mystery, and will give my opinion as soon as I have tangible facts to back it up.

As for the Mayan calender ending in 2012, I believe we might have all been had, and this is the only place I find personal shame, in being taken for a ride by white "researchers' who marked December 21.2012 as that date.

I most certainly cannot personally read Mayan script, so this was where the 1.5% chance of being wrong came in. In the accuracy of their prognostications I had no doubt, nor of the effects it would have, and based on current developments and trends I am certain that time is very near.

I seriously doubt any of the advanced knowledge was handed down through the generations accurately to present day Mayan elders because of the interference and manipulation of the Catholic church, and I know for certain none of them can read any of the four remaining scripts, any one or all could forgeries as well to throw us all off the track.

ONE THING I DO KNOW IS THAT THE END OF THE LONG COUNT MARKS THE PASSAGE OF THE EARTH THROUGH THE GALACTIC PLANE, AND IT IS NOT IN THE DISTANCE FUTURE THAT THIS WILL OCCUR

The correlation between the inferior Gregorian calender and the Mayan long count IS NOT at all established for a certainty. Other cyclic Mayan calenders based on astronomical cycles obviously ARE well correlated with the Gregorian calender, since these ancient calenders can still be used to predict the timing of celestial events after over a thousand years,

The timing of the event I predicted WILL occur on a solstice, and it will be the actual date the 'long count' calender ends.

All of this being said , those of you celebrating my failure are of small little minds and are actually betting against almost certain odds that humanity as a whole is facing a natural calamity combined with a pre planned human attempt to maximize the casualties never before seen in known history.

There is absolutely no doubt of this. One thing I must admit is my naivety in accepting and trusting the work of the very people I told you all not to trust in providing us with the date the long count actually ends, and that being traditional academia. If I were in their(the targeted ones) shoes, I would create a false date that predates the actual date to completely eliminate any chance anyone will ever take the end of the Mayan long count calender seriously as to what it means, and in one fell swoop completely eliminate the chance anyone will ever believe on it means anything other than the calender ended like a Gregorian one does every year.

I strongly suspect that the people behind agent 74444 and the other professional disinformation specialists working this thread know not only that I am right about this catastrophic event , but that they know the actual date the calender ends. I am not speaking of the disinformation specialists specifically, they are all completely ignorant and in case you hadn't noticed, completely devoid of any knowledge of real science. This can only mean that the information that I was wrong was handed down to them through their chain of command at the NSA and NASA.

I am going to continue to work on the problem, my pride is not damaged as I have been deceived before and to be perfectly honest with you, it sure as hell looks like all hell has broken loose, or as many of you are fond of saying the shit has hit the fan. This IS NOT in the future, it is happening now and it is happening across the board in human activities and natural occurrences, and not a single disinformation operative can deny that.

So the question is, if the date was not the winter solstice of 2012, when will it be? I can't and won't make any prognostications on that as of yet, as I am not positive where the failure in the complex interaction of information and the science arose, but as I said I suspect we were all given a false date for the end of the Long Count of the Mayan calender and the actual date is in the very near future on a solstice. Let's be realistic, these "things" aren't making massive preparations by digging out huge bunkers under the ground for nothing, and a near perfect way to prevent us all from believing the end of the long count calender had any ramifications for the human race would be to promote a false date, preventing us from obstructing their escape in any meaningful way.

I will say this to all of those posting here that I should hang my head in shame for being wrong on the timing : FUCK OFF
.

It will happen during this solar maximum on a solstice, so that narrows it down pretty much. My GUESS is they promoted a date that was either 6 months off or 1 year as the "end" of the Mayan calender, it would be impossible to play with it too much and not have it be detected by independent researchers who are knowledgeable about the Mayan system of recording information who were not "on board" with them.

For what it's worth and despite the fact I know people like agent 74444 could never understand this, I was hoping I was wrong and glad when I was, because I happen to know many who are now preparing and are worthy of life would have perished if I was. My pride can take a back seat to that.

But whatever you do, do not believe these people, as they are here for the specific mission to deceive you. Read the protocols of the elders of zion. A light is shining among them. Their knowing I was wrong explains why I am still breathing.
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Fully agree. His grand theory was a complete and utter failure, it picked a gaping hole in itself by being completely and unconditionally wrong. It's almost as if these people believe that 90% of the world really did die yesterday and the "shills" are just keeping the truth from them.
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You're a fucking idiot and completely wrong about everything you say, but it is your job to promote jewish idiot pseudoscience. A failed prediction based on one (in all likelihood) falsely promoted variable does NOTHING to erode the validity of my science as opposed to that fucking momentum and kinetic energy without mass "photon quantum" bullshit.
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agent 74444,

I just copied your last 4 posts and pasted the words in ms word.....you want to know how many words you just wrote?

6302 words
six thousand, three hundred and two words in four posts

you have just permanently outed yourself as a shill imo.
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A shill for who? It seems that AA was full of shit, he called 74444 out all the time, in the end 74444 was right and AA was wrong, if 74444 wants to gloat so be it. There were so many personal attacks by AA he deserves everything he gets. I doubt you will ever see him again, and if you do I seriously doubt you will hear him say he was wrong.
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There is only one problem, he wrote that list, there is not a single sentence amongst it that originated from my keyboard nor any reference to source. Much of it is based on things I did say and every single instance where this is so, I was absolutely correct.

He claims a false victory, offering no proof what he writes originated from me or that what of it did originate with me is wrong.

74444 has proved but one thing, I have been the target of a very organized and dedicated disinformation operation that cost in the tens of thousands or perhaps hundreds of thousands of dollars, with many individuals spending countless man hours on me personally. They didn't do that because I was full of shit.
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I have not posted as of yet on this thread since several hours before the event I predicted was supposed to occur. I see of course I have been accused of 'sock puppeting' for myself, but one thing I am noted for is my unimpeachable honesty, and this is my first post since the night of the 21st.
For my not so well organized detractors and opponents, it was probably seen as a cop out or the shame of being wrong motivating me, which of course if you out much thought into it is not actually the case. I have been wrong before and I will be again, and the error could lie anywhere amongst several uncertain variables involved, and I am working on solving that. It is most likely a result of a timing error, like any person who has worked on a problem of this nature it is easy to see how the timing could be in error.

If you put much thought into it, it wouldn't be hard to figure out I spent the last hours in a protected enviroment and refrained from posting to avoid having my location pinpointed.

As for being wrong , in my opinion none of my detractors here should be crowing so loudly, and their pride in tearing me down because of it will be a cause for deep regret for them , of that {b] I AM CERTAIN.

The cleansing will occur. That is a certainty.I would be willing to bet my last dollar not a single one of my hecklers is breathing a sigh of relief and their fear is evident in their words to the

I gave the odds at 98.5%. Not 100%. While 1.5% might seem like long odds and it is, there was always a chance I would miss the timing for several different reasons and I knew it.
That is why I did not declare an absolute certainty on the timing, but the event will occur, and the strange activity of the Sun for whatever reason made my model for predicting geo effective solar events useless. Somewhere in the past months I discussed this in more detail and I refrained from making specific predictions of solar flaring and coronal mass ejections past that point.

As many have noticed and commented on, Sunspots became dormant, some of them quite large, as they rotated into a geo effective position. NO ONE offered any theory as to why other than crazy theories like the intervention of aliens and 'angels' or whatever.

The fact that there WAS in fact a Sunspot that was precisely in the center of the Suns disk at the moment I predicted the event would occur is key in understanding how and why the prediction was not complete failure. The increasingly unstable crust, strange noises, volcanic activity and radically altered weather ARE NOT the result caused "human caused global warming" like EVERY SINGLE ONE of my very vocal detractors have at the bottom of their agenda to have you believe.

Why geo effective sunspots became inactive is a total mystery to me and involves some factor outside my range of experience and knowledge. As I said, I am working on solving that mystery, and will give my opinion as soon as I have tangible facts to back it up.

As for the Mayan calender ending in 2012, I believe we might have all been had, and this is the only place I find personal shame, in being taken for a ride by white "researchers' who marked December 21.2012 as that date.

I most certainly cannot personally read Mayan script, so this was where the 1.5% chance of being wrong came in. In the accuracy of their prognostications I had no doubt, nor of the effects it would have, and based on current developments and trends I am certain that time is very near.

I seriously doubt any of the advanced knowledge was handed down through the generations accurately to present day Mayan elders because of the interference and manipulation of the Catholic church, and I know for certain none of them can read any of the four remaining scripts, any one or all could forgeries as well to throw us all off the track.

ONE THING I DO KNOW IS THAT THE END OF THE LONG COUNT MARKS THE PASSAGE OF THE EARTH THROUGH THE GALACTIC PLANE, AND IT IS NOT IN THE DISTANCE FUTURE THAT THIS WILL OCCUR

The correlation between the inferior Gregorian calender and the Mayan long count IS NOT at all established for a certainty. Other cyclic Mayan calenders based on astronomical cycles obviously ARE well correlated with the Gregorian calender, since these ancient calenders can still be used to predict the timing of celestial events after over a thousand years,

The timing of the event I predicted WILL occur on a solstice, and it will be the actual date the 'long count' calender ends.

All of this being said , those of you celebrating my failure are of small little minds and are actually betting against almost certain odds that humanity as a whole is facing a natural calamity combined with a pre planned human attempt to maximize the casualties never before seen in known history.

There is absolutely no doubt of this. One thing I must admit is my naivety in accepting and trusting the work of the very people I told you all not to trust in providing us with the date the long count actually ends, and that being traditional academia. If I were in their(the targeted ones) shoes, I would create a false date that predates the actual date to completely eliminate any chance anyone will ever take the end of the Mayan long count calender seriously as to what it means, and in one fell swoop completely eliminate the chance anyone will ever believe on it means anything other than the calender ended like a Gregorian one does every year.

I strongly suspect that the people behind agent 74444 and the other professional disinformation specialists working this thread know not only that I am right about this catastrophic event , but that they know the actual date the calender ends. I am not speaking of the disinformation specialists specifically, they are all completely ignorant and in case you hadn't noticed, completely devoid of any knowledge of real science. This can only mean that the information that I was wrong was handed down to them through their chain of command at the NSA and NASA.

I am going to continue to work on the problem, my pride is not damaged as I have been deceived before and to be perfectly honest with you, it sure as hell looks like all hell has broken loose, or as many of you are fond of saying the shit has hit the fan. This IS NOT in the future, it is happening now and it is happening across the board in human activities and natural occurrences, and not a single disinformation operative can deny that.

So the question is, if the date was not the winter solstice of 2012, when will it be? I can't and won't make any prognostications on that as of yet, as I am not positive where the failure in the complex interaction of information and the science arose, but as I said I suspect we were all given a false date for the end of the Long Count of the Mayan calender and the actual date is in the very near future on a solstice. Let's be realistic, these "things" aren't making massive preparations by digging out huge bunkers under the ground for nothing, and a near perfect way to prevent us all from believing the end of the long count calender had any ramifications for the human race would be to promote a false date, preventing us from obstructing their escape in any meaningful way.

I will say this to all of those posting here that I should hang my head in shame for being wrong on the timing : FUCK OFF
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It will happen during this solar maximum on a solstice, so that narrows it down pretty much. My GUESS is they promoted a date that was either 6 months off or 1 year as the "end" of the Mayan calender, it would be impossible to play with it too much and not have it be detected by independent researchers who are knowledgeable about the Mayan system of recording information who were not "on board" with them.

For what it's worth and despite the fact I know people like agent 74444 could never understand this, I was hoping I was wrong and glad when I was, because I happen to know many who are now preparing and are worthy of life would have perished if I was. My pride can take a back seat to that.

But whatever you do, do not believe these people, as they are here for the specific mission to deceive you. Read the protocols of the elders of zion. A light is shining among them. Their knowing I was wrong explains why I am still breathing.
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these words imo are the words spoken by a very knowledgeable honest person....and this makes total sense, hence I said earlier to the shills,; don't be so quick to think AA is wrong....

very nicely written reply AA, straight from the heart....
bumped as I would like everyone to read AA's reply.
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agent 74444,

I just copied your last 4 posts and pasted the words in ms word.....you want to know how many words you just wrote?

6302 words
six thousand, three hundred and two words in four posts

you have just permanently outed yourself as a shill imo.
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A shill for who? It seems that AA was full of shit, he called 74444 out all the time, in the end 74444 was right and AA was wrong, if 74444 wants to gloat so be it. There were so many personal attacks by AA he deserves everything he gets. I doubt you will ever see him again, and if you do I seriously doubt you will hear him say he was wrong.
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There is only one problem, he wrote that list, there is not a single sentence amongst it that originated from my keyboard nor any reference to source. Much of it is based on things I did say and every single instance where this is so, I was absolutely correct.

He claims a false victory, offering no proof what he writes originated from me or that what of it did originate with me is wrong.

74444 has proved but one thing, I have been the target of a very organized and dedicated disinformation operation that cost in the tens of thousands or perhaps hundreds of thousands of dollars, with many individuals spending countless man hours on me personally. They didn't do that because I was full of shit.
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he has done that from day 1.
One of the problems has been is that agent 74444 is one of many and we are but one (AA) plus a few ac posters such as myself.
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I gave the odds at 98.5%. Not 100%.
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these words imo are the words spoken by a very knowledgeable honest person....and this makes total sense, hence I said earlier to the shills,; don't be so quick to think AA is wrong....

very nicely written reply AA, straight from the heart....
bumped as I would like everyone to read AA's reply.
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So fucking predictable. What a worthless tard. And you're no better for supporting him even after his miserable failure and defiant reply. You should both be reexamining your screwed up belief system, but you won't, you're both too dense.
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agent 74444,

I just copied your last 4 posts and pasted the words in ms word.....you want to know how many words you just wrote?

6302 words
six thousand, three hundred and two words in four posts

you have just permanently outed yourself as a shill imo.
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A shill for who? It seems that AA was full of shit, he called 74444 out all the time, in the end 74444 was right and AA was wrong, if 74444 wants to gloat so be it. There were so many personal attacks by AA he deserves everything he gets. I doubt you will ever see him again, and if you do I seriously doubt you will hear him say he was wrong.
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There is only one problem, he wrote that list, there is not a single sentence amongst it that originated from my keyboard nor any reference to source. Much of it is based on things I did say and every single instance where this is so, I was absolutely correct.

He claims a false victory, offering no proof what he writes originated from me or that what of it did originate with me is wrong.

74444 has proved but one thing, I have been the target of a very organized and dedicated disinformation operation that cost in the tens of thousands or perhaps hundreds of thousands of dollars, with many individuals spending countless man hours on me personally. They didn't do that because I was full of shit.
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There are many people who were involved in virtually all his points that witnessed your buffoonery and you labeled all "agents".

So much for unimpeachable honesty LOL

When proven a fool just hit the denial button rapidly and repeatedly.

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I gave the odds at 98.5%. Not 100%.
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these words imo are the words spoken by a very knowledgeable honest person....and this makes total sense, hence I said earlier to the shills,; don't be so quick to think AA is wrong....

very nicely written reply AA, straight from the heart....
bumped as I would like everyone to read AA's reply.
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So fucking predictable. What a worthless tard. And you're no better for supporting him even after his miserable failure and defiant reply. You should both be reexamining your screwed up belief system, but you won't, you're both too dense.
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a lot of vitriol in your last post astroshill....
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these words imo are the words spoken by a very knowledgeable honest person....and this makes total sense, hence I said earlier to the shills,; don't be so quick to think AA is wrong....

very nicely written reply AA, straight from the heart....
bumped as I would like everyone to read AA's reply.
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So fucking predictable. What a worthless tard. And you're no better for supporting him even after his miserable failure and defiant reply. You should both be reexamining your screwed up belief system, but you won't, you're both too dense.
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a lot of vitriol in your last post astroshill....
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Says the guy calling anyone who disagrees an "agent" or a "shill."
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I will give AA credit that he believes his own information.


I will say that I believe he was in his bunker at least for a while.

Confidence 98.5%
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these words imo are the words spoken by a very knowledgeable honest person....and this makes total sense, hence I said earlier to the shills,; don't be so quick to think AA is wrong....

very nicely written reply AA, straight from the heart....
bumped as I would like everyone to read AA's reply.
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So fucking predictable. What a worthless tard. And you're no better for supporting him even after his miserable failure and defiant reply. You should both be reexamining your screwed up belief system, but you won't, you're both too dense.
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a lot of vitriol in your last post astroshill....
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Says the guy calling anyone who disagrees an "agent" or a "shill."
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plenty of time yet imo...
let's give it a few more weeks, months...

I personally have always thought I would give a massive prophecy such as this until March 2013 in its entirety...

However, I would expect there to be massive earth changes in the next few weeks though as a precursor to any potential natural cyclic events....
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So fucking predictable. What a worthless tard. And you're no better for supporting him even after his miserable failure and defiant reply. You should both be reexamining your screwed up belief system, but you won't, you're both too dense.
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a lot of vitriol in your last post astroshill....
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Says the guy calling anyone who disagrees an "agent" or a "shill."
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plenty of time yet imo...
let's give it a few more weeks, months...
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Again, you should both be reexamining your screwed up belief system, but you won't. You keep proving you won't.
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I will give AA credit that he believes his own information.

I will say that I believe he was in his bunker at least for a while.

Confidence 98.5%
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I will say that, given enough time, AA's predictions will more or less come true, and there is the idea gaining momentum that the date is dec 16 2013 Thread: COMET ISON & THE 13th AHAU CYCLE- The True "End-Time" of the Mayan Calendar (Dec. 16th, 2013)

But given enough time one could also would predict a coming ice age sooner or later, and even that could be coupled with a radiation/solar ELE event at the same time, why not?

I like to identify and ignore my own beliefs often though, so that I can gain vision through fluidity. This opens intuition, but intuition is something apart from belief systems.


As far as my perceptions of public opinion in Mexico, I have found a near consensus of opinion in both the public and academics and leaders closer to the subject, a near total disregard leading up to the 12.21.12 to the idea that the date meant doom (to themselves at least).

The other consensus I have run into is that both mainstream and especially fringe archeologists, tend to form over-reaching and too broad of ideas based often on single strands of rather limited and questionable evidence. (or that the public puts too much emphasis into scanty evidence from archeologists) There is a consensus that the academics fool themselves into thinking they know more than they really do. Of course the real history is FAR more complex than we could ever possibly know.

The native cities here in fact had large "libraries" full of codices written on paper and leather, and the Spaniards had the standing order to burn them all and destroy all the stone glyphs too. It is estimated that well over 99% of all the paper and leather codices of the Maya, Nahuatl, and other peoples were destroyed.

Those codices dealt with things like astronomy, current events, legal matters etc., and surely would have contained enough data to authoritatively correlate the Gregorian to the Maya/Aztec calendars, but from what I gather even the older and more authoritative Dec.23rd2012 is uncertain.

I suspect that most of the native Mayans who were supporting the 12.21.12 date will be found to be in tourist cities or have close dealings with North Americans "gringos", where the meme of that date was strong, due to the efforts of Arguelles, McKenna, et al.

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I will give AA credit that he believes his own information.

I will say that I believe he was in his bunker at least for a while.

Confidence 98.5%
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I will say that, given enough time, AA's predictions will more or less come true, and there is the idea gaining momentum that the date is dec 16 2013 Thread: COMET ISON & THE 13th AHAU CYCLE- The True "End-Time" of the Mayan Calendar (Dec. 16th, 2013)

But given enough time one could also would predict a coming ice age sooner or later, and even that could be coupled with a radiation/solar ELE event at the same time, why not?

I like to identify and ignore my own beliefs often though, so that I can gain vision through fluidity. This opens intuition, but intuition is something apart from belief systems.


As far as my perceptions of public opinion in Mexico, I have found a near consensus of opinion in both the public and academics and leaders closer to the subject, a near total disregard leading up to the 12.21.12 that the date meant doom (to themselves at least).

The other consensus I have run into is that both mainstream and especially fringe archeologists, tend to form over-reaching and too broad of ideas based often on single strands of rather limited and questionable evidence. There is a consensus that the academics fool themselves into thinking they know more than they really do.

The native cities here in fact had large "libraries" full of codices written on paper and leather, and the Spaniards had the standing order to burn them all and destroy all the stone glyphs too. It is estimated that well over 99% of all the paper and leather codices of the Maya, Nahuatl, and other peoples were destroyed.

Those codices dealt with things like astronomy, current events, legal matters etc., and surely would have contained enough data to authoritatively correlate the Gregorian to the Maya/Aztec calendars, but from what I gather even the older and more authoritative Dec.23rd2012 is uncertain.

I suspect that most of the native Mayans who were supporting the 12.21.12 date will be found to be in tourist cities or have close dealings with North Americans "gringos", where the meme of that date was strong, due to the efforts of Arguelles, McKenna, et al.
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Which predictions though?

The "great cleansing" by solar radiation?

Solar flares that can knock out power grids are to be expected from time to time if that is what you mean so I don't see much merit in that particular prediction.

All of his predictions contain very small pieces of known science but his extrapolations and conclusions are laughable at best.

If ever I have seen a real life chicken little it is AA/IDW
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So here we have it: IDW's 'White Lie' excuse. Following the pattern exactly. The pattern is so oft repeated by different individuals, it should have its own name, like 'Following the Lieder.'

Read Leon Festinger's "When Prophecy Fails."

Alas. So IDW is choosing not to learn, and his ego his overriding his intellect yet again. That is rather unfortunate, but I suppose life will merely replay the lesson yet again.



I gave the odds at 98.5%. Not 100%. While 1.5% might seem like long odds and it is, there was always a chance I would miss the timing for several different reasons and I knew it.

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Except you never showed your work as to where you *got* the 98.5% claim in the first place. So no one could check your work. Why wasn't it 96%? Or 92.34% Or 88.1%?

Or 0%?

If you actually showed your work, people could check you, and duplicate your results, and thus strengthen your validity. Your ex post facto justifications are merely ANOTHER fallacious argument.



So the question is, if the date was not the winter solstice of 2012, when will it be? I can't and won't make any prognostications on that as of yet,
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Again, following Nancy Lieder's pattern to a T.



I will say this to all of those posting here that I should hang my head in shame for being wrong on the timing : FUCK OFF.
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There's that ego again. You also aren't considering the idea that you may be wrong *altogether.*


For what it's worth and despite the fact I know people like agent 74444 could never understand this, I was hoping I was wrong and glad when I was, because I happen to know many who are now preparing and are worthy of life would have perished if I was. My pride can take a back seat to that.


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It appears your pride can't take a back seat to *anything,* as that is almost purely what you are responding with.

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