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these words imo are the words spoken by a very knowledgeable honest person....and this makes total sense, hence I said earlier to the shills,; don't be so quick to think AA is wrong....

very nicely written reply AA, straight from the heart....
bumped as I would like everyone to read AA's reply.
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So fucking predictable. What a worthless tard. And you're no better for supporting him even after his miserable failure and defiant reply. You should both be reexamining your screwed up belief system, but you won't, you're both too dense.
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a lot of vitriol in your last post astroshill....
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Says the guy calling anyone who disagrees an "agent" or a "shill."
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plenty of time yet imo...
let's give it a few more weeks, months...

I personally have always thought I would give a massive prophecy such as this until March 2013 in its entirety...

However, I would expect there to be massive earth changes in the next few weeks though as a precursor to any potential natural cyclic events....
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So fucking predictable. What a worthless tard. And you're no better for supporting him even after his miserable failure and defiant reply. You should both be reexamining your screwed up belief system, but you won't, you're both too dense.
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a lot of vitriol in your last post astroshill....
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Says the guy calling anyone who disagrees an "agent" or a "shill."
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plenty of time yet imo...
let's give it a few more weeks, months...
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Again, you should both be reexamining your screwed up belief system, but you won't. You keep proving you won't.
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I will give AA credit that he believes his own information.

I will say that I believe he was in his bunker at least for a while.

Confidence 98.5%
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I will say that, given enough time, AA's predictions will more or less come true, and there is the idea gaining momentum that the date is dec 16 2013 Thread: COMET ISON & THE 13th AHAU CYCLE- The True "End-Time" of the Mayan Calendar (Dec. 16th, 2013)

But given enough time one could also would predict a coming ice age sooner or later, and even that could be coupled with a radiation/solar ELE event at the same time, why not?

I like to identify and ignore my own beliefs often though, so that I can gain vision through fluidity. This opens intuition, but intuition is something apart from belief systems.


As far as my perceptions of public opinion in Mexico, I have found a near consensus of opinion in both the public and academics and leaders closer to the subject, a near total disregard leading up to the 12.21.12 to the idea that the date meant doom (to themselves at least).

The other consensus I have run into is that both mainstream and especially fringe archeologists, tend to form over-reaching and too broad of ideas based often on single strands of rather limited and questionable evidence. (or that the public puts too much emphasis into scanty evidence from archeologists) There is a consensus that the academics fool themselves into thinking they know more than they really do. Of course the real history is FAR more complex than we could ever possibly know.

The native cities here in fact had large "libraries" full of codices written on paper and leather, and the Spaniards had the standing order to burn them all and destroy all the stone glyphs too. It is estimated that well over 99% of all the paper and leather codices of the Maya, Nahuatl, and other peoples were destroyed.

Those codices dealt with things like astronomy, current events, legal matters etc., and surely would have contained enough data to authoritatively correlate the Gregorian to the Maya/Aztec calendars, but from what I gather even the older and more authoritative Dec.23rd2012 is uncertain.

I suspect that most of the native Mayans who were supporting the 12.21.12 date will be found to be in tourist cities or have close dealings with North Americans "gringos", where the meme of that date was strong, due to the efforts of Arguelles, McKenna, et al.

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I will give AA credit that he believes his own information.

I will say that I believe he was in his bunker at least for a while.

Confidence 98.5%
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I will say that, given enough time, AA's predictions will more or less come true, and there is the idea gaining momentum that the date is dec 16 2013 Thread: COMET ISON & THE 13th AHAU CYCLE- The True "End-Time" of the Mayan Calendar (Dec. 16th, 2013)

But given enough time one could also would predict a coming ice age sooner or later, and even that could be coupled with a radiation/solar ELE event at the same time, why not?

I like to identify and ignore my own beliefs often though, so that I can gain vision through fluidity. This opens intuition, but intuition is something apart from belief systems.


As far as my perceptions of public opinion in Mexico, I have found a near consensus of opinion in both the public and academics and leaders closer to the subject, a near total disregard leading up to the 12.21.12 that the date meant doom (to themselves at least).

The other consensus I have run into is that both mainstream and especially fringe archeologists, tend to form over-reaching and too broad of ideas based often on single strands of rather limited and questionable evidence. There is a consensus that the academics fool themselves into thinking they know more than they really do.

The native cities here in fact had large "libraries" full of codices written on paper and leather, and the Spaniards had the standing order to burn them all and destroy all the stone glyphs too. It is estimated that well over 99% of all the paper and leather codices of the Maya, Nahuatl, and other peoples were destroyed.

Those codices dealt with things like astronomy, current events, legal matters etc., and surely would have contained enough data to authoritatively correlate the Gregorian to the Maya/Aztec calendars, but from what I gather even the older and more authoritative Dec.23rd2012 is uncertain.

I suspect that most of the native Mayans who were supporting the 12.21.12 date will be found to be in tourist cities or have close dealings with North Americans "gringos", where the meme of that date was strong, due to the efforts of Arguelles, McKenna, et al.
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Which predictions though?

The "great cleansing" by solar radiation?

Solar flares that can knock out power grids are to be expected from time to time if that is what you mean so I don't see much merit in that particular prediction.

All of his predictions contain very small pieces of known science but his extrapolations and conclusions are laughable at best.

If ever I have seen a real life chicken little it is AA/IDW
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So here we have it: IDW's 'White Lie' excuse. Following the pattern exactly. The pattern is so oft repeated by different individuals, it should have its own name, like 'Following the Lieder.'

Read Leon Festinger's "When Prophecy Fails."

Alas. So IDW is choosing not to learn, and his ego his overriding his intellect yet again. That is rather unfortunate, but I suppose life will merely replay the lesson yet again.



I gave the odds at 98.5%. Not 100%. While 1.5% might seem like long odds and it is, there was always a chance I would miss the timing for several different reasons and I knew it.

 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1433761


Except you never showed your work as to where you *got* the 98.5% claim in the first place. So no one could check your work. Why wasn't it 96%? Or 92.34% Or 88.1%?

Or 0%?

If you actually showed your work, people could check you, and duplicate your results, and thus strengthen your validity. Your ex post facto justifications are merely ANOTHER fallacious argument.



So the question is, if the date was not the winter solstice of 2012, when will it be? I can't and won't make any prognostications on that as of yet,
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Again, following Nancy Lieder's pattern to a T.



I will say this to all of those posting here that I should hang my head in shame for being wrong on the timing : FUCK OFF.
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There's that ego again. You also aren't considering the idea that you may be wrong *altogether.*


For what it's worth and despite the fact I know people like agent 74444 could never understand this, I was hoping I was wrong and glad when I was, because I happen to know many who are now preparing and are worthy of life would have perished if I was. My pride can take a back seat to that.


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It appears your pride can't take a back seat to *anything,* as that is almost purely what you are responding with.
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Which predictions though?

The "great cleansing" by solar radiation?

Solar flares that can knock out power grids are to be expected from time to time if that is what you mean so I don't see much merit in that particular prediction.

All of his predictions contain very small pieces of known science but his extrapolations and conclusions are laughable at best.

If ever I have seen a real life chicken little it is AA/IDW
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I don't know.

Maybe doom is felt by those to whom doom commeth. It is the North American memes that are fixated on doom. But then as individuals sometimes the future turns out better than we might expect too.

Maybe it doesn't matter one way or the other. Freedom and fluidity of thought is all that matters. I may not agree with someones point of view, but would fight to defend a persons right to present their ideas of any kind.

It is God that wants us to have freedom, and the Devil who wants us to have rules and to submit to force, in that context. There is a philosophy that comes from the dichotomy.

If we don't have contentment with the present moment, we don't have anything of substance.

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There is only one problem, he wrote that list, there is not a single sentence amongst it that originated from my keyboard nor any reference to source. Much of it is based on things I did say and every single instance where this is so, I was absolutely correct.
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Oh, my. That one made me howl. You don't even dare *glance* an the List, do you?

Your claiming that not a single sentence came from you is belied by *reading.*


74444 has proved but one thing, I have been the target of a very organized and dedicated disinformation operation that cost in the tens of thousands or perhaps hundreds of thousands of dollars, with many individuals spending countless man hours on me personally. They didn't do that because I was full of shit.
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Nope. A single individual did it because you attacked people I respected, with unjustified ferocity and every fallacious argument in the book. You were an over-the-top bully. So I decided to have at.

I was taught that if you do *anything,* you do it *thoroughly.*

And that a single unpaid I.T. individual, admittedly of fairly average intelligence, but good at research, some old physics under his belt, knowing how to save text, and very, very patient, has repeatedly been able to put you in your place with your own words just doesn't jive with your personal cosmology. You must therefore craft an entire multi-hundred-thousand dollar conspiracy instead of accept that a regular guy keeps repeatedly beating you silly at your own silly game.
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There is only one problem, he wrote that list, there is not a single sentence amongst it that originated from my keyboard nor any reference to source. Much of it is based on things I did say and every single instance where this is so, I was absolutely correct.
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Oh, my. That one made me howl. You don't even dare *glance* an the List, do you?

Your claiming that not a single sentence came from you is belied by *reading.*


74444 has proved but one thing, I have been the target of a very organized and dedicated disinformation operation that cost in the tens of thousands or perhaps hundreds of thousands of dollars, with many individuals spending countless man hours on me personally. They didn't do that because I was full of shit.
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Nope. A single individual did it because you attacked people I respected, with unjustified ferocity and every fallacious argument in the book. You were an over-the-top bully. So I decided to have at.

I was taught that if you do *anything,* you do it *thoroughly.*

And that a single unpaid I.T. individual, admittedly of fairly average intelligence, but good at research, some old physics under his belt, knowing how to save text, and very, very patient, has repeatedly been able to put you in your place with your own words just doesn't jive with your personal cosmology. You must therefore craft an entire multi-hundred-thousand dollar conspiracy instead of accept that a regular guy keeps repeatedly beating you silly at your own silly game.
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*agent 74444* is *shilltastic*
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There is only one problem, he wrote that list, there is not a single sentence amongst it that originated from my keyboard nor any reference to source. Much of it is based on things I did say and every single instance where this is so, I was absolutely correct.
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Oh, my. That one made me howl. You don't even dare *glance* an the List, do you?

Your claiming that not a single sentence came from you is belied by *reading.*


74444 has proved but one thing, I have been the target of a very organized and dedicated disinformation operation that cost in the tens of thousands or perhaps hundreds of thousands of dollars, with many individuals spending countless man hours on me personally. They didn't do that because I was full of shit.
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Nope. A single individual did it because you attacked people I respected, with unjustified ferocity and every fallacious argument in the book. You were an over-the-top bully. So I decided to have at.

I was taught that if you do *anything,* you do it *thoroughly.*

And that a single unpaid I.T. individual, admittedly of fairly average intelligence, but good at research, some old physics under his belt, knowing how to save text, and very, very patient, has repeatedly been able to put you in your place with your own words just doesn't jive with your personal cosmology. You must therefore craft an entire multi-hundred-thousand dollar conspiracy instead of accept that a regular guy keeps repeatedly beating you silly at your own silly game.
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*agent 74444* is *shilltastic*
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*Ad Hominems* are *fallacious.*
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This thread has now been unequivocally exposed as a fraud. It should therefore be retired into the annuls of similarily failed, baseless predictions. I never expected AA/IDW/RH to humble himself with a sincere apology. He will continue his unsubstantiated (Jew)stifications.
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This thread has now been unequivocally exposed as a fraud. It should therefore be retired into the annuls of similarily failed, baseless predictions. I never expected AA/IDW/RH to humble himself with a sincere apology. He will continue his unsubstantiated (Jew)stifications.
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I doubt that Trinity will want to "retire" this thread. It will continue to live so long as there are people who wish to participate.
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Which predictions though?

The "great cleansing" by solar radiation?

Solar flares that can knock out power grids are to be expected from time to time if that is what you mean so I don't see much merit in that particular prediction.

All of his predictions contain very small pieces of known science but his extrapolations and conclusions are laughable at best.

If ever I have seen a real life chicken little it is AA/IDW
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I don't know.

Maybe doom is felt by those to whom doom commeth. It is the North American memes that are fixated on doom. But then as individuals sometimes the future turns out better than we might expect too.

Maybe it doesn't matter one way or the other. Freedom and fluidity of thought is all that matters. I may not agree with someones point of view, but would fight to defend a persons right to present their ideas of any kind.

It is God that wants us to have freedom, and the Devil who wants us to have rules and to submit to force, in that context. There is a philosophy that comes from the dichotomy.

If we don't have contentment with the present moment, we don't have anything of substance.
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Good post!
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AA should change his name to Anonymous Alchemist because he peddled snake oil by wrapping religion and the myan calandar into his "scientific" research. He is now following in the steps of many other prolific doomsdayers by back-tracking on his own calculations and offering a future date(yet unkown and most likely like many others never to be given again) for our ultimate demise. He calls everyone who disagrees or gives proof of his utter failures schills because he cant fathom the fact that his "science" is nothing more than garbage. To those who bought into his science and leveraged everything based on his rants I am truly sorry. A true man would admit that he was wrong and move on, but what he offers is more of the same, new future date, more doom, more psuedoscience. He will now twist new data to suit his delusions. I honestly feel sorry for him right now, he is obviously in denial, hopefully in the near future he will accept that what he built up will not come to be and be able to move on, but more than likely he will continue to string himself and those who still believe on. Call me a schill, attack me personally, do whatever is needed to deflect from the truth I can take it.
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AA should change his name to Anonymous Alchemist because he peddled snake oil by wrapping religion and the myan calandar into his "scientific" research. He is now following in the steps of many other prolific doomsdayers by back-tracking on his own calculations and offering a future date(yet unkown and most likely like many others never to be given again) for our ultimate demise. He calls everyone who disagrees or gives proof of his utter failures schills because he cant fathom the fact that his "science" is nothing more than garbage. To those who bought into his science and leveraged everything based on his rants I am truly sorry. A true man would admit that he was wrong and move on, but what he offers is more of the same, new future date, more doom, more psuedoscience. He will now twist new data to suit his delusions. I honestly feel sorry for him right now, he is obviously in denial, hopefully in the near future he will accept that what he built up will not come to be and be able to move on, but more than likely he will continue to string himself and those who still believe on. Call me a schill, attack me personally, do whatever is needed to deflect from the truth I can take it.
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Do you think anyone of the small group on this thread "leveraged everything" based on what AA said?

By what I've read I kind of doubt it, and but would be amusing if it were true in any case, and then so-what anyhow? They just got a nice earth-based structure out of it maybe. Any desire to silence AA would not be for the sake of a few such hypotheticals.

What all the prepping, for whatever pretext does for any of us is exactly what TPTB fear the most, it disconnects us from their pyramid of wealth consolidation. Preppers are not so likely to eat restaurant or take-out food so much, and will consume more basic food goods over manufactured foods, and that is just the start of a long list of similar behavioral and mental changes which are oriented towards personal freedom and independence.

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I agree that AA should never be silenced.

That would be no fun at all.
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It is a shame that not one person posting since I made my last post commented on the fact that I was not absolutely certain of the date, and why.

It is case where I suppose I should have estimated the odds much lower based on the singular fact that I was accepting mainstream archaeology's conclusion as fact, being the disdain I have for mainstream science and especially those who publish and promote it's belief system.

That is to say I should not have accepted the mainstream idea that the Mayan long count ends on December 21, 2012, and the fact that I did not fully is why I did not declare an absolute certainty.

One thing is certain, it will be on a solstice that this event occurs, because the end of the Mayan Long count calender for an absolute certainty marks a precise alignment of the galactic center, the Sun and the Earth on the galactic plane.

In 6 months there will be another solstice, and another such alignment, one where it will be the shortest day of the year in the Mayan regions. To them strangely enough, this would be the winter solstice. One more thing to consider, when their winter solstice comes we will be on the side of the Sun where the Sunspots have been extremely active, making it likely the source of error was in all of our tendencies to correlate everything based on OUR own relationship to the information.

Perhaps it will be THEIR shortest day and THEIR winter solstice, and I am deeply disturbed with myself for not seeing the obvious possibility and estimating(let me make myself clear here) the odds at 50/50 as I should have. At any rate the cleansing of the Earth is coming, and that is an absolute certainty, because if this were not to happen the "world would end".

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It is a shame that not one person posting since I made my last post commented on the fact that I was not absolutely certain of the date, and why.

**snipped**

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I took that as a given AA, so do those who believe in you. The rest are mainly either paid shills or trolls and therefore it wouldn't matter what we said, they would just make another posts stating that you said the exact date.
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It is a shame that not one person posting since I made my last post commented on the fact that I was not absolutely certain of the date, and why.

It is case where I suppose I should have estimated the odds much lower based on the singular fact that I was accepting mainstream archaeology's conclusion as fact, being the disdain I have for mainstream science and especially those who publish and promote it's belief system.

That is to say I should not have accepted the mainstream idea that the Mayan long count ends on December 21, 2012, and the fact that I did not fully is why I did not declare an absolute certainty.

One thing is certain, it will be on a solstice that this event occurs, because the end of the Mayan Long count calender for an absolute certainty marks a precise alignment of the galactic center, the Sun and the Earth on the galactic plane.

In 6 months there will be another solstice, and another such alignment, one where it will be the shortest day of the year in the Mayan regions. To them strangely enough, this would be the winter solstice. One more thing to consider, when their winter solstice comes we will be on the side of the Sun where the Sunspots have been extremely active, making it likely the source of error was in all of our tendencies to correlate everything based on OUR own relationship to the information.

Perhaps it will be THEIR shortest day and THEIR winter solstice, and I am deeply disturbed with myself for not seeing the obvious possibility and estimating(let me make myself clear here) the odds at 50/50 as I should have. At any rate the cleansing of the Earth is coming, and that is an absolute certainty, because if this were not to happen the "world would end".

AA
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There is an obvious error in my above post, the Mayan empire was in fact located for the most part in the northern hemisphere very close to the equator, meaning the next solstice will be their summer solstice as it is ours. I have no excuse for this error other than exhaustion on my part. It is important to realize though that at the height of their prominence, their influence spread both well north and south of the equator, and it is a fact that native peoples were far more mobile and had much better developed trade routes than is commonly imagined at this time..

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It is a shame that not one person posting since I made my last post commented on the fact that I was not absolutely certain of the date, and why.

**snipped**

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I took that as a given AA, so do those who believe in you. The rest are mainly either paid shills or trolls and therefore it wouldn't matter what we said, they would just make another posts stating that you said the exact date.
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Cool

Do we have a pre-Dec.21st reference of the said uncertainty?
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There is an obvious error in my above post, the Mayan empire was in fact located for the most part in the northern hemisphere very close to the equator, meaning the next solstice will be their summer solstice as it is ours. I have no excuse for this error other than exhaustion on my part. It is important to realize though that at the height of their prominence, their influence spread both well north and south of the equator, and it is a fact that native peoples were far more mobile and had much better developed trade routes than is commonly imagined at this time..

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 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1429850


I'm glad you caught that AA, I already did and declined to comment at this point.

Between the tropics of Cancer and Capricorn, that is to say, in the tropics, the length of the days does not follow a circular pattern, but rather "heart" or "bow" shaped patterns, with one or two longest days of the year, and one or two shortest days of the year.

My region is at a latitude within the tropics as noted by Martin Cadena in his book Malinalco Origins, to divide astronomically and by seasons into 5 equal segments of the year, a pentagram, not 4.

This diagram from his book explains how this works if one studies its meaning it close enough.

For example the Mayan custom of counting and giving the name of the year, not at the beginning of the first solar passing of the zenith, but rather of the second which occurs the 1st of August. An adjustment of four days brings us to the 28th of July that date which corresponds to the latitude of 19 degrees north, where important cities were constructed like Cholula, Malinalco and others of the Mayan area. (see figure 15)

Figure 15 - Geometry of the year at the latitude of 19º North, Frank Diaz.
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The Sun rises in the cut on the 12th of February and the 29th of October which denote the days of the Tonalpowalli, or that is to say that they add up to 260 days with an epicenter in the summer solstice, which with the dates if the 29th of October and the 12th of February add up to 104 days which follow a deliberate will of chronological and calendarical synthesis. (Frank Diaz, Sacred Thirteen), whereby the position of the cut divides the solar year into the significant relation 104/260. These cuts in the mountain can be considered as a proof of the existence of a calendaric correlation, for if they had not been, then at the end of several periods of four years the relation of 104/260 would have disappeared (Galindo Trejo, La Astronomia en Mesoamerica, arqueologia Mexicana).

That the Meshica would have chosen the latitude of 19º North to locate such a sanctuary is significant, since of all the latitudes of Mesoamerica, that is the only in which the zenith passes of the Sun 73 days apart divide the year into five equal resonate parts (73x5=365), with the five cycles of 52 years into which the Tonalpowalli (52x5=260). In other words the latitude of Malinalco, beyond permitting the adjustment of years of 365 days of the Maya haab, reflect the binary structure of that of the cosmogony.
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I have never been a person to be self doubting, when I am certain I am right I am confident and I am right. Remember, destruction of the wicked will come suddenly when they are confident they are safe, it is a universal theme in almost every religion and spiritual belief system.
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The Mayans created a very accurate calender that says this world as we know it will end on that date and cleansing will occur that results in the destruction of the evil conspiracy that has it in it's grips, and it corresponds with several simultaneous events that to the astrophysicist who is THINKING and speaking with an uncensored tongue are quite alarming. You need to read the thread, skipping over the bullshit and reading what I have said. I am NOT going to repeat the several things that are going to happen at that exact instant again.


This calender is KNOWN to be accurate to within seconds by it's accuracy in predicting solar and lunar eclipses and other celestial alignments, and betting against it is the folly of fools
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I don't know about my supporters, but I will have the honor to admit my mistake if I am wrong. The timing could be off, but I doubt it. If I am right I certainly won't ever get the accolades I deserve, I have no way to win in that respect, do I? Perhaps you should rethink your general position.

My people's whole belief system is based on periodic cleansing and the the birth of a new world under new spiritual leadership, and all of the signs in science say the exit from this present world is just ahead. The calender of an advanced society known for its great accuracy gives that time as 11:11 EST on 12/21/12. Are you ready to take the exit?
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I would wager most are cowardly enough here that no, no one will be apologizing on the 22nd. They will find a way instead to twist the information and come up with some sort of reasoning why it didn't happen and never admit being wrong.
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Don't count on me being wrong. You're jumping the gun there, boy/
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Three more days and a giant coronal hole the shape of an isosceles triangle has appeared on the Sun. The Navy's fleets have been recalled by the President and we are seeing across the board censorship of all apace weather data,

Three days to go.
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Well I think Agent 74444 has a pretty compelling case, but anon. Astrophysicist has too...

We'll know in a week but it looks like AA will be the one with splaning to do...
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Yes, I would if my prediction fails. IF.
I wouldn't count on it though.
I am accessing information that correlates with my own conclusions based on real science of the electric universe, information that has a 100% accuracy rate to within a time window of seconds.

I am also basing my predictions on the fact pf the intelligent design of the universe.

These "things" have days to live.
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Blow it out your ass, dickhead.

I guess my satisfaction will come in knowing the majority of you are packed under ground together without a single decent person worthy of life present to feed off of, all you will have is yourselves, any slaves will revolt , it's in the genetics..

Have fun now.
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hmmm, astrotwat is worried:
Thread: Axial rotation measurement anomaly *Update on pg 21 - Problem Solved*

Of course, but don't count me having to do it just yet. I have been wrong before and I will again, and it is dishonorable not to admit ones mistakes..
BUT, You are as most missing the 'big picture' and concentrating on a few failed numerical predictions while ignoring the overall correctness.


I personally believe despite the indications to the contrary that my prediction of massive world changes caused by a solar event on the 22nd of December will come to past, and I KNOW that radical changes are rapidly taking place and that we currently are in the midst of a mass extinction event and hundreds of species are dieing off completely every week.

...


Here are a few of his quotes directly from his keyboard, yes he does say that there is a 2% chance of failure, however if you read his other posts you sure wouldnt know it.
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nothing is being withheld, just your fear mongering imagination, the world is in great shape - all the dates of doom have come and gone - there is no doom ever just natural earth development. just being drip fed fear mongering bullshit
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Are amateur astronomers being censured?

I have not had contact with such groups in over a decade.

In any case if Astro sees a discrepancy, then he would best take it up with amateur astronomers who can measure directly first.

Of course a positive could only mean NIBURUUU!!!!!, maybe.


BTW AC87, your quote attributions on your previous post got screwed up so that some of AA's quote showed as your words. The GLP quote attributions have been fickle on this thread, so good to preview your posts. You gotta go in and fix the attribution html code in your posts when you spot problems.

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AA- Our solar system crosses the galactic plane every 5000 yrs. Is this right?
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To be perfectly honest, I do not know precisely but suspect the crossing correlates with the end of the long count. Then again the long count calender is not as many claim, a reoccurring pattern of time, it has beginning of approximately 5000 years ago and the Mayans mark this as the beginning of their civilization and 2012 as the end.. In Gregorian measure of 3114 bc and an end date in December of this year.
One of the oddest observations was that the bones of animals and humans were found piled upon each other in caves around this time period, and all of the large mammals of the new world died off. The bones of animals are found in caves including animals that would not ordinarily enter caves (research)This indicates they were attempting to escape something.


Here is some information about that time period:
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Recurring Phenomenon: The Cosmic Disaster



The first so-called "Dark Age", meaning a period from which little is known despite much information before and after that period, occurred about 3100 BC to 3000 BC.[note this correlates with the beginning of the Mayan calender] For example in Mesopotamia this period is called Jemdet Nasr. About 3100 BC there was suddenly a change to more primitive ages compared to the preceding Uruk period. For example the numerical token system dwindled.

Here is some information on the Mayan calender that is well researched and accurate:

[link to www.webexhibits.org]

What I personally believe as I have repeatedly stated is that a pole reversal occurs periodically on this planet at a regular period, resulting in mass die offs and extinctions. I alps believe that paleontological carbon dating is flawed and nothing can be accurately determined from it. If were were to use carbon14 dating as a measure, the period would be 30,000 years, which I think is a basic error in understanding and far too long.

Carbon 14 dating has many factors that effect it's accuracy including the amount of radioactive carbon present when the living thing died, which is obviously highly variable depending upon conditions that the plants and animals grew under..
As I have repeatedly st tempted to get across, what we a scientists actually know is tiny fraction of what there is to know and much of it is false.

This does not change the fact that i think the end of the long count calender corresponds with our crossing of the galactic plane, a disturbance of the earths magnetic field producing mechanism resulting in a failure of the magnetic field, at he same time there is a radical increase in matter and plasma in interplanetary space. I also KNOW that on 12/21/12, a solar event will occur that will make none in the known history of man compare. Remember, I made these predictions before I correlated them to the Mayan long count or studied the prophecies of the cleansing.
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AA contradicts himself........again

It is ironic that AA himself added the bold text in the original post

chuckle

More impeachable honesty eh?
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nothing is being withheld, just your fear mongering imagination, the world is in great shape - all the dates of doom have come and gone - there is no doom ever just natural earth development. just being drip fed fear mongering bullshit
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cruise

How are things at the institute?
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Here are a few of his quotes directly from his keyboard, yes he does say that there is a 2% chance of failure, however if you read his other posts you sure wouldnt know it.
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You are as most missing the 'big picture' and concentrating on a few failed numerical predictions while ignoring the overall correctness.
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It is true that a Sunspot that was perfectly aimed at the Earth was present on the Suns disk at the time I stated.
As I have previously admitted, I am totally baffled as to why Sunspots are becoming inactive while geo effective, but suspect it simply because the correct time of the cleansing is not known at this time and it is part of the intelligent design that this is occurring. Is there another explanation? Another astrophysicist that can explain it? Let us hear him speak up.
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Here are a few of his quotes directly from his keyboard, yes he does say that there is a 2% chance of failure, however if you read his other posts you sure wouldnt know it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1219690

You are as most missing the 'big picture' and concentrating on a few failed numerical predictions while ignoring the overall correctness.
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The issue appears to be to date 100% failure on virtually everything on the thread.

The big picture appears to be safe from your theories and predictions.

I can bring more instances of your insistence of catastrophe for the 21st from the thread if you wish.

The 98% quote as well as the second quote you pulled was regarding a prediction you had made for a large flare which never happened.

Your overall big picture was always that we were all toasted by the 21st with the great cleansing so I find it amusing that now the big picture failure is to be forgotten about in looking at the bigger picture?
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The issue appears to be to date 100% failure on virtually everything on the thread.

The big picture appears to be safe from your theories and predictions.

I can bring more instances of your insistence of catastrophe for the 21st from the thread if you wish.

The 98% quote as well as the second quote you pulled was regarding a prediction you had made for a large flare which never happened.

Your overall big picture was always that we were all toasted by the 21st with the great cleansing so I find it amusing that now the big picture failure is to be forgotten about in looking at the bigger picture?
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You're total moron, nobody believes this.Not even YOU.
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It's kind of strange to click reload and see a letter disappear in your post. You are a total moron was changed to you are moron.

WHY?

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