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Have a nice day, agent 74444. What is this, the fourth time you been found ignorant and in error while calling me an idiot?:


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Hm. Unfortunately, all the cities and sites referred to in the article are in Mexico -- decidedly North of South America. So I think the single reference isn't enough to support your claim, as it might be a simple error.

Keep right on digging. Ten Mayan artifacts discovered in South America. Won't the Incas be surprised.
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He is out of his element with your questions, he is having problems with fastballs in his wheel house on his sunspots and NASA coverups of photos he has personally confirmed with his own data, there is a snowballs chance in hell he is going to be able to prove any of his Myan artifact claims if he cant even get simple facts about his sunspot allegation correct. I should have said a snowballs chance on the north pole concidering his claim that there will be no winter this year. I doubt people in Yakutsk, Russia agree with him right now at -50 degrees F.
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Have a nice day, agent 74444. What is this, the fourth time you been found ignorant and in error while calling me an idiot?:


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 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1194140


Hm. Unfortunately, all the cities and sites referred to in the article are in Mexico -- decidedly North of South America. So I think the single reference isn't enough to support your claim, as it might be a simple error.

Keep right on digging. Ten Mayan artifacts discovered in South America. Won't the Incas be surprised.
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He is out of his element with your questions, he is having problems with fastballs in his wheel house on his sunspots and NASA coverups of photos he has personally confirmed with his own data, there is a snowballs chance in hell he is going to be able to prove any of his Myan artifact claims if he cant even get simple facts about his sunspot allegation correct. I should have said a snowballs chance on the north pole concidering his claim that there will be no winter this year. I doubt people in Yakutsk, Russia agree with him right now at -50 degrees F.
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The question is, why would you employ this obviously unbalanced and unfair tactic? Also, if you read the thread you will see where I emphatically stated there will be radical extremes in weather. Overall averages though will amount to no real winter, just as last year and the year before. Aberrations are to be expected with the radical downdrafts that are occurring bringing stratospheric air to the surface an d making weather prediction increasingly impossible beyond a half day or less.
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Have a nice day, agent 74444. What is this, the fourth time you been found ignorant and in error while calling me an idiot?:


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 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1194140


Hm. Unfortunately, all the cities and sites referred to in the article are in Mexico -- decidedly North of South America. So I think the single reference isn't enough to support your claim, as it might be a simple error.

Keep right on digging. Ten Mayan artifacts discovered in South America. Won't the Incas be surprised.
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[link to www.onejungle.com]
Excerpt from the link: " The power of the Mayan civilization stretched for almost the entire length of South America."

I was taught this in the sixth grade, btw.
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Have a nice day, agent 74444. What is this, the fourth time you been found ignorant and in error while calling me an idiot?:


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 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1194140


Hm. Unfortunately, all the cities and sites referred to in the article are in Mexico -- decidedly North of South America. So I think the single reference isn't enough to support your claim, as it might be a simple error.

Keep right on digging. Ten Mayan artifacts discovered in South America. Won't the Incas be surprised.
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He is out of his element with your questions, he is having problems with fastballs in his wheel house on his sunspots and NASA coverups of photos he has personally confirmed with his own data, there is a snowballs chance in hell he is going to be able to prove any of his Myan artifact claims if he cant even get simple facts about his sunspot allegation correct. I should have said a snowballs chance on the north pole concidering his claim that there will be no winter this year. I doubt people in Yakutsk, Russia agree with him right now at -50 degrees F.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29341887


The question is, why would you employ this obviously unbalanced and unfair tactic? Also, if you read the thread you will see where I emphatically stated there will be radical extremes in weather. Overall averages though will amount to no real winter, just as last year and the year before. Aberrations are to be expected with the radical downdrafts that are occurring bringing stratospheric air to the surface an d making weather prediction increasingly impossible beyond a half day or less.
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It would be all good except for the fact that the average low in Yakutsk for todays date is -48, doest really sound like an abberation, just a normal winter. Do research before attempting to discredit me. Also explain how any of this is unfair and unbalanced, I am calling you out on your obvious lack of research on your sunspot claim, and 7444 is calling you out on your lack of knowledge on the Myan civilization. You made the claims, I am handing you the facts. If you make untrue claims or use faulty research then you should expect people to call you out on it.
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It would be all good except for the fact that the average low in Yakutsk for todays date is -48, doest really sound like an abberation, just a normal winter. Do research before attempting to discredit me. Also explain how any of this is unfair and unbalanced, I am calling you out on your obvious lack of research on your sunspot claim, and 7444 is calling you out on your lack of knowledge on the Myan civilization. You made the claims, I am handing you the facts. If you make untrue claims or use faulty research then you should expect people to call you out on it.
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And yet temperatures worldwide are well above normal and within a few days the coincidence you mention will be a memory.
Let us do a little experiment and see what the weather is like there in a week, shall we?
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That isn't what you claimed before. Post Hoc AGAIN...

ALL PARTICLES MOVING AT HIGH VELOCITIES RELATIVE TO THE EARTH WILL CAUSE UPPER ATMOSPHERIC HEATING and those passing through the atmosphere and reaching the surface will increase the temperature of anything they impact on the surface or on the way to it ( all levels of the atmosphere). This is a CERTAINTY. This also is the reason I predicted no winter in the northern hemisphere and that winter will actually be warmer than fall.

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Your backpedaling/changing claims is getting more amusing by the post.
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Also explain how any of this is unfair and unbalanced, I am calling you out on your obvious lack of research on your sunspot claim,
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And all you actually accomplished is helping me by confirming not only was I right, but that the data was intentionally altered afterword. Nice job,
and 7444 is calling you out on your lack of knowledge on the Myan civilization.
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And he has utterly failed and be proven to be ignorant and completely wrong,

You made the claims, I am handing you the facts.

You are shoveling shit as fast as you can to defeat me with volumes of unrelated information requiring me to do off the cuff research to prove what I already know and providing links. It is an old tactic, but you're going to need more than three of you to succeed at this tactic.
If you make untrue claims or use faulty research then you should expect people to call you out on it.
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And you have completely failed at showing one example of where I have done so.
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Have a nice day, agent 74444. What is this, the fourth time you been found ignorant and in error while calling me an idiot?:


[link to www.onejungle.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1194140


Hm. Unfortunately, all the cities and sites referred to in the article are in Mexico -- decidedly North of South America. So I think the single reference isn't enough to support your claim, as it might be a simple error.

Keep right on digging. Ten Mayan artifacts discovered in South America. Won't the Incas be surprised.
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[link to www.onejungle.com]
Excerpt from the link: " The power of the Mayan civilization stretched for almost the entire length of South America."

I was taught this in the sixth grade, btw.
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Then you were taught badly. The tourist page you cite gives no sources, is at odds with educational sites about the Maya, and even the cities they mention specifically on the page are all in Mexico.

The Incan civilization was down in South America, and were *quite* different than the Maya, too.

So. You claimed Mayan artifacts were discovered in South America. Prove it. Name ten.
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That isn't what you claimed before. Post Hoc AGAIN...

ALL PARTICLES MOVING AT HIGH VELOCITIES RELATIVE TO THE EARTH WILL CAUSE UPPER ATMOSPHERIC HEATING and those passing through the atmosphere and reaching the surface will increase the temperature of anything they impact on the surface or on the way to it ( all levels of the atmosphere). This is a CERTAINTY. This also is the reason I predicted no winter in the northern hemisphere and that winter will actually be warmer than fall.

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Your backpedaling/changing claims is getting more amusing by the post.
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Actually, this is precisely what I have been claiming all throughout this thread very consistently and precisely.
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You are shoveling shit as fast as you can to defeat me with volumes of unrelated information requiring me to do off the cuff research to prove what I already know and providing links. It is an old tactic, but you're going to need more than three of you to succeed at this tactic.

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No. I am demanding that *before* you make the claims you make, you have your evidence and links lined up and ready to go. Your research shouldn't be off the cuff, it should be *already done.* And that means citing sources that other people can check. Your word is simply not enough.

After all, I do not believe what I am told without proof. If that's a rule for you, surely it can be a rule for me.
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That isn't what you claimed before. Post Hoc AGAIN...

ALL PARTICLES MOVING AT HIGH VELOCITIES RELATIVE TO THE EARTH WILL CAUSE UPPER ATMOSPHERIC HEATING and those passing through the atmosphere and reaching the surface will increase the temperature of anything they impact on the surface or on the way to it ( all levels of the atmosphere). This is a CERTAINTY. This also is the reason I predicted no winter in the northern hemisphere and that winter will actually be warmer than fall.

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Your backpedaling/changing claims is getting more amusing by the post.
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Actually, this is precisely what I have been claiming all throughout this thread very consistently and precisely.
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And yet against IDW's certainty we have:

- Actual Snow.

- Winter temperatures in the Northern Hemisphere.

- NOT warmer than Fall.

You fail.
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Also explain how any of this is unfair and unbalanced, I am calling you out on your obvious lack of research on your sunspot claim,
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And all you actually accomplished is helping me by confirming not only was I right, but that the data was intentionally altered afterword. Nice job,
and 7444 is calling you out on your lack of knowledge on the Myan civilization.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29341887


And he has utterly failed and be proven to be ignorant and completely wrong,

You made the claims, I am handing you the facts.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1194140

You are shoveling shit as fast as you can to defeat me with volumes of unrelated information requiring me to do off the cuff research to prove what I already know and providing links. It is an old tactic, but you're going to need more than three of you to succeed at this tactic.
If you make untrue claims or use faulty research then you should expect people to call you out on it.
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And you have completely failed at showing one example of where I have done so.


Please give me one link to a LIVE sunspot photo. The site you gave doesnt have LIVE links, just links to photos from SOHO. Yet this site is where you saw a LIVE photo at 11:11 a.m. or at least this is your claim.
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[link to www.enjoyguatemala.com]

Snip:
"The ancient Maya occupied a vast geographic area in Central and South America from around 2000 BC until 1500 AD."
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No. I am demanding
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Demand in one hand and shit in the other, asshole
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Boys, you're screwing up the quotes, whats wrong, can't more thana dozen of you working together overpower my ability to respond in such a way as to make you look like baying jackasses?
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Face it, a dozen idiots cannot add up thier IQ's cumulatively and have the total be higher than one true genius.
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Snip:
"The ancient Maya occupied a vast geographic area in Central and South America from around 2000 BC until 1500 AD."
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Do you read any of these things you snip and post?
continued from your snip.....

The ancient Maya occupied a vast geographic area in Central and South America from around 2000 BC until 1500 AD. The Mayan culture extended to parts of what is now Mexico, Honduras, and El Salvador, and most of Guatemala and Belize.


Now obviously their definition of south america is much different than what I was taught. Even though Honduras at one time covered much of the northern part of south america, the farthest south the mayan empire reached were the ruins in Chalchupa in hondurus, which is still central america. Check the map out.
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None of you have been right a single time or defeated me on a single point in this 'debate' all night. You are consistently wrong and prove only one thing, you are no match for me in any respect, and you have made fools of yourselves and what you represent consistently.
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Can you show me where the live image you saw on spaceweather.com is? I see no live links. Are you sure it was a live link? Well it had to be concidering you confirmed it with your own equipment.
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Snip:
"The ancient Maya occupied a vast geographic area in Central and South America from around 2000 BC until 1500 AD."
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Do you read any of these things you snip and post?
continued from your snip.....

The ancient Maya occupied a vast geographic area in Central and South America from around 2000 BC until 1500 AD. The Mayan culture extended to parts of what is now Mexico, Honduras, and El Salvador, and most of Guatemala and Belize.


Now obviously their definition of south america is much different than what I was taught. Even though Honduras at one time covered much of the northern part of south america, the farthest south the mayan empire reached were the ruins in Chalchupa in hondurus, which is still central america. Check the map out.
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The mayan influence reached as far south as the southern tip of south america and as far north as the Dakotas. Wanna be wrong again?
It is an idiot that makes the same mistake over and over and over.
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Can you show me where the live image you saw on spaceweather.com is? I see no live links. Are you sure it was a live link? Well it had to be concidering you confirmed it with your own equipment.
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How can you show a live link from two day past, idiot?
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Can you show me where the live image you saw on spaceweather.com is? I see no live links. Are you sure it was a live link? Well it had to be concidering you confirmed it with your own equipment.
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How can you show a live link from two day past, idiot?
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As a matter of fact the only equipment you need to see the location of a sunspot is a welders hood or cutting goggles with an number ten or eleven lens.The Sunspot was in fact manually verified as to be positioned precisely in the center oif the Suns disk at 12:11 CST on 12/21/12 by my own personal observation. Nice swing, what a whiff.
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You claim that spaceweather.com has live sunspot video correct? Please show me where. That is all I am asking, how about a live sunspot vidoe or photo from 2:21 am EST today, like now.
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No. I am demanding
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Demand in one hand and shit in the other, asshole
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A taciturn admission you do not have the evidence you claimed you had.

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You claim that spaceweather.com has live sunspot video correct? Please show me where. That is all I am asking, how about a live sunspot vidoe or photo from 2:21 am EST today, like now.
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I made no such claim, show me where I did. However, SOHO DOES in fact show live images, and they are well known for altering and removing them when they have something to hide.

Spaceweather can be used to locate the approximate location of a sunspot, but manual observation is the obviously the most accurate method since you are only 9 minutes off the precise location.
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No. I am demanding
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Demand in one hand and shit in the other, asshole
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A taciturn admission you do not have the evidence you claimed you had.

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Get back to your bath salts and give it up, any intellect you might have once had has long since been destroyed by chronic chemical intoxication.
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Thanks, but on December 21st at 11:11 est Spaceweather .com displayed the sunspot in the exact center of the Suns disk, as confirmed my the magnetogram.



So basically this was a lie? Just wondering because at 11:11 EST you saw a picture that would have to LIVE to be confirmed by your magnetogram, so I would like to see a live photo or vidoe on spaceweather.com to prove that they actually do have live pictures/videos.
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Thanks, but on December 21st at 11:11 est Spaceweather .com displayed the sunspot in the exact center of the Suns disk, as confirmed my the magnetogram.
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I posted his quote again lest he accuse me of quoting something he didnt say. Now its in the correct format, but my question remains the same.
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Get back to your bath salts and give it up, any intellect you might have once had has long since been destroyed by chronic chemical intoxication.
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As opposed to you, who actually could use some chemicals.

Lithium perhaps?
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None of you have been right a single time or defeated me on a single point in this 'debate' all night. You are consistently wrong and prove only one thing, you are no match for me in any respect, and you have made fools of yourselves and what you represent consistently.
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Of course we have.

You have failed to name Mayan artifacts discovered in South America.

You have failed to quantify a different starting date for the Mayan calendar, and don't understand why or how the starting date has been verified.

You have failed to show evidence that the Sunspot was lined up when you said it was.

Your predictions about December 21st have proven utter folly.

You made the argument about solstices in the Northern and Southern hemisphere when you wrote

"In 6 months there will be another solstice, and another such alignment, one where it will be the shortest day of the year in the Mayan regions. To them strangely enough, this would be the winter solstice. One more thing to consider, when their winter solstice comes we will be on the side of the Sun where the Sunspots have been extremely active, making it likely the source of error was in all of our tendencies to correlate everything based on OUR own relationship to the information.

Perhaps it will be THEIR shortest day and THEIR winter solstice, and I am deeply disturbed with myself for not seeing the obvious possibility and estimating(let me make myself clear here) the odds at 50/50 as I should have."
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Firstly, the odds were NOT 50/50, any more than they were 98.5%. DO you LISTEN to yourself?

And *all* the Mayan cities and amazing Astronomical artifacts of the Maya were discovered solely in the Northern Hemisphere. You started making excuses for the 'Mayan Empire' existing in both the Northern and Southern hemisphere, and then cited *Tourist* sites as supporting evidence -- once again demonstrating your penchant for desperately seeking *ANY* links to affirm whatever your stance is, rather than tailoring your stance to fit the available evidence.

Now to be fair, you did catch yourself, and claimed fatigue. Yet, now that you know the Maya were primarily in the Northern Hemisphere, how can you support the idea that the SUMMER solstice is the one the Maya meant, other than it giving your thoery another borrowed six months of life? Also, again, there is a reason the 13.0.0.0.0 correlates to December 21, 2012, and works backward, that is verified. Do you know what it is?

You have called yourself the leading Astrophysics authority in the world, yet in our ONE real-world test of your predictive abilities based on this claim of yours, your idea failed utterly. And you were quoting ridiculously strong odds. Yet you keep defending your failed theories, and get on *my* case because I want proper documentation and supporting evidence.

Your behavior since has demonstrated, as I pointed out many times before, that your ego writes checks your brain is unable to cash.
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Blah blah blah same old shit on and on going in circles with logical fallacies and outright lies, I'm a dumb motherfucker but they give me.... cash.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444


I really don't see any sense in replying to any of the paid disinformation operatives since they are all totally ignorant and dishonest and simply wasting my valuable time going in circles. When the thread is re opened to other posters, then I will answer pertinent questions. You've a;; made fools of yourselves and it's recorded here for all to see, and that's good enough for me.

OPEN THE THREAD TO REAL POSTERS , STOP AUTOBANNING THEM, AND I WILL RESPOND TO THEIR QUESTIONS. I HAVE ATTEMPTED TO POST HERE UNDER THREE DIFFERENT isp'S AND WAS INSTANTLY BANNED, IT'S NOT HARD TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON BOYS, HAVE A NICE NIGHT.

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