WARNING: SOLAR DATA PAGE COMPLETELY CENSORED,DATA ON OTHER SOURCES BEING FABRICATED!

Thanks, but on December 21st at 11:11 est Spaceweather .com displayed the sunspot in the exact center of the Suns disk, as confirmed my the magnetogram.



So basically this was a lie? Just wondering because at 11:11 EST you saw a picture that would have to LIVE to be confirmed by your magnetogram, so I would like to see a live photo or vidoe on spaceweather.com to prove that they actually do have live pictures/videos.

I posted his quote again lest he accuse me of quoting something he didnt say. Now its in the correct format, but my question remains the same.

As opposed to you, who actually could use some chemicals.

Lithium perhaps?

Of course we have.

You have failed to name Mayan artifacts discovered in South America.

You have failed to quantify a different starting date for the Mayan calendar, and don't understand why or how the starting date has been verified.

You have failed to show evidence that the Sunspot was lined up when you said it was.

Your predictions about December 21st have proven utter folly.

You made the argument about solstices in the Northern and Southern hemisphere when you wrote



Firstly, the odds were NOT 50/50, any more than they were 98.5%. DO you LISTEN to yourself?

And *all* the Mayan cities and amazing Astronomical artifacts of the Maya were discovered solely in the Northern Hemisphere. You started making excuses for the 'Mayan Empire' existing in both the Northern and Southern hemisphere, and then cited *Tourist* sites as supporting evidence -- once again demonstrating your penchant for desperately seeking *ANY* links to affirm whatever your stance is, rather than tailoring your stance to fit the available evidence.

Now to be fair, you did catch yourself, and claimed fatigue. Yet, now that you know the Maya were primarily in the Northern Hemisphere, how can you support the idea that the SUMMER solstice is the one the Maya meant, other than it giving your thoery another borrowed six months of life? Also, again, there is a reason the 13.0.0.0.0 correlates to December 21, 2012, and works backward, that is verified. Do you know what it is?

You have called yourself the leading Astrophysics authority in the world, yet in our ONE real-world test of your predictive abilities based on this claim of yours, your idea failed utterly. And you were quoting ridiculously strong odds. Yet you keep defending your failed theories, and get on *my* case because I want proper documentation and supporting evidence.

Your behavior since has demonstrated, as I pointed out many times before, that your ego writes checks your brain is unable to cash.

I really don't see any sense in replying to any of the paid disinformation operatives since they are all totally ignorant and dishonest and simply wasting my valuable time going in circles. When the thread is re opened to other posters, then I will answer pertinent questions. You've a;; made fools of yourselves and it's recorded here for all to see, and that's good enough for me.

OPEN THE THREAD TO REAL POSTERS , STOP AUTOBANNING THEM, AND I WILL RESPOND TO THEIR QUESTIONS. I HAVE ATTEMPTED TO POST HERE UNDER THREE DIFFERENT isp'S AND WAS INSTANTLY BANNED, IT'S NOT HARD TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON BOYS, HAVE A NICE NIGHT.

I guess that AA has finally gotten caught in his web of lies. Clearly he has fabricated the fact that he saw and CONFIRMED with his own magnetogram a sunspot in the middle of the sun.

Here are the facts:

a)spaceweather.com does not have any live images.
b)the images of sunspots on spaceweather.com are a day old
c)if he did use a magnetogram to attempt to verify the old photo, clearly he would have found the data to be wrong, ----yet he CONFIRMS it.



For those that would like to do their own research into this, you can verify that todays image of sunspots list on spaceweather.com (the site he claims he saw a sunspot in the middle, and CONFIRMED with his own equipment) shows the following:

[link to www.spaceweather.com]

If you go to the soho site and check out the repository of prior pictures, you will find that its a day and a half old, here is the same picture notice the date on it is the 22nd:

[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]

Even if he claims its a nasa cover up, soho has pictures up from the 23rd and 24th already in their database.

[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]

[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]


Now either he didnt see the picture that he claims he did, however more than likely it was on spaceweather.com, we already showed that the image was from 5 pm on the 20th that the sunspot was in the middle which means that it probably would be the image of the day on the 21st on spaceweather.com, or he didnt confirm with his magnetogram, which is more than likely.

What this boils down to is he is lying. He makes things up to prove his theory. Yes the picture was there but it was old, he didnt know that and more than likely thought what he was seeing was a live photo, so to make himself look smart he claims to have confirmed it with his own equipment.

Everyone can do there own research its all listed here.

Could be,
or maybe this theory that the Mayans did not forget to calculate the time occupied between zero and one like the Romans did, thus a unit of time is missing from the popular recent North American (Gringo) calculations, which might yield a 12.16.13 Gregorian date. Thread: COMET ISON- The Nostradamus Comet At The Time Of The True Mayan Calendar End Date Of 12/16/13 (Something Wicked This Way Cometh!)

But then as far as I can decipher from input and deduction, is that the idea that the end of the Mayan calendar meant something sudden or anything at all, appears to be an invention of people looking for dramatic things to write to promote careers. Even if 12.16.13 were the correct end date, the idea that there remain Mayan astrological interpretations is rather unfounded.

But of course individual shamans and native elders see things and share their visions with no supporting evidence what-so-ever, and that kind of information might often taken seriously. ...so the mushroom trips and the interpretations of some visiting academics decades ago an the books that they would go on to write and inspire, might be taken seriously by some too.

Wow, thread still humming along as usual. I've said it before, this thread is a ruse for entertainment purposes only. Yes, I'm guilty too of dropping in to catch up on the fantasies of madmen. But I grow weary of the endless repitition of echoing slurs. IMHO AA, you may truely believe your ramblings (I'll never know), but this thread no longer supports the alleged message. Page after page of utter nonsensical BS. Even if the data is fabricated, WTF are we going to do about it? In your own words, if we are meant to be 'cleansed,' then there's nothing we can do about it.

The Anawak peoples maintain a deep respect for all their grandfathers, even when they are madmen. Yes they even patronize those types and put them up on pedestals, and leave them there, so that can go out and get things done.

Ah, synchronicity.




[link to www.nytimes.com]

What an apt description. So I expect IDW/A.A to proselytize even harder.

Ok, everything's gonna be alright, good times, business as usual.


I am wondering what kind of person it is that could see all of the different things happening in the world and imagine it is going to go like it is and there is no reason for concern.

My guess is either extremely uninformed, in a state of denial, or paid. Most of them here are obviously paid.

I didn't say they did.



The images of the Sun on spaceweather.com ar updated a 0:00 UTC, 6AM EST. On their website on the day of the solstice the sunspot was very slightly to left of center, and as per manual direct observation was precisely in the center of the Suns disk at 12:11PM CST, or 11:11AM EST


Actually, unless the data has been altered, which is quite common for SOHO and especially NASA as anyone who has followed these things for long, the MDI continuum Data was censored completely ans the Magnetogram showed the Sunspot dead center of the Sun's disk at 11:11AM EST when I posted a link to it last night. It is quite common for them to read what I write on the internet and alter the data to make it appear I am wrong. If you go over this thread carefully you will see many instances of an almost live reaction to what I was saying with censorship and the alteration of data.
Yes, they do it, and they have very good reason. It's the same reason they promoted the false date so widely of the end of the Mayan calender, pulling out all of the stops and issuing press releases, editorials and even movies and television "specials" about the so called doom date..

Another thing i cannot imagine is anyone who could possibly believe any source of information such as the government and the Jewish media that has so consistently and repeatedly been caught lying and altering facts.

The images are updated at 6AM EST that is correct, HOWEVER, they are updated with an image taken at 5 PM the day before. So the image you saw was 18 hours old. Explain how an image that was slightly left of center by your own admission was directly center 18 hours later, where your calculation says it would only take 5 hour 11 mins to be center.

????????????????????????????

what a 'tard

Please source this information. It's bullshit. Why would they update the image with yesterday's data at 0:00 UTC.


Lying must be a hard way to make a living, I bet it takes quite a toll on you to be continually called out as a liar, I guess that's why none of you have the courage to attach your identities to your words like I do.

So who was promoting the idea on a mass scale and why?


fnord

I feel I need to explain why because it is actually quite obvious.

If "they" ingrain the meme in everyone's minds, pulling out all of the stops across the board that the long count of the Mayan calender ended on December 21/2012 and nothing happened, they will completely ignore any further warnings of the real danger that does actually continue to exist.

Those who are awake know something that is going to effect us all suddenly is coming. The timing is the only question, because we are being fed false information.

Here is a link to all the nasa sunspot images. They are taken once a day. This is where spaceweather.com gets their daily image. The date and time of picture is posted as well.

[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]


Here is the cached photo that you saw on spaceweather.com supposedly as you say was up at 11:11 EST on the 21st, is it not odd to you that photo is identical to the image taken at the 20th at 5:50 PM?

[link to www.spaceweather.com]

Do you still want to make the claim that what you saw on the 21st at 11 AM was only 5 hours and 11 mins old?

Covering a cultural phenomenon is quite unlike promoting an idea.
The media also report on crime.

The idea was promoted by professional doom-mongers who had books and lectures to sell, and the knuckle-heads who fell for their humbug.

Like you.


You wish.
Your ravings are immortalised forever.
They won't go away.

Nuff said

So you are saying that you believe NASA alters data just to make you look bad?

Odd since there was no flare from the spots anyway, unless you think there was flare activity and they covered that up as well.

So where did the meme actually originate if it wasn't from traditional academia and their mass media mouthpieces?
They lie about crimes more often than not BTW.

I beg to differ with you, the idea that the Mayan long count ended on december 21st came directly from the pens of lamestream science's archaeologists.

In you drug induced halucinations, perhaps.


You wish.
Your ravings are immortalised forever.
They won't go away.


You don't get sarcasm or metaphor, none of you do. It;s kind of funny really.

Just to prove that AA is full of shit, I am giving a prediction for the image of the day for TOMMORROW'S spaceweather.com sunspot image. A full 15 hours before it is going to be posted. Lets see if I am right, and everyone can figure out how bad AA was off on his data when he confirmed the image from spaceweather.com on the 21st as legitimate.


[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]


Lets see how he claims NASA will manipulate this image. HMMMM.........you have 15 hours to come up with an excuse why spaceweather.com (YOUR SOURCE) is so behind on their images. On how on the day that you saw an image that it was only 5 hours late.

You can go to spaceweather.com now and confirm for yourselves tommorrow.

In some confirmed case where there is strong circumstantial evidence, yes, I believe they have and do. But it is all of us they are deceiving.


No, I don't. All of the solar activity has been occurring on the opposite side of the Sun for some as of yet unexplained and inexplicable reason. It could be the direction we are removing though the plasma, that would be my best guess. If it is, it does not bode well for summer when we will be on that side of the SUn, does it? There have been CME's so massive on the OPPOSITE side of the Sun that particle emissions from them reached Earth.

They seem to spend a lot of man hours doing that, I wonder why?

Hi Nancy Lieder!

Well Occam's razor points to your prediction being just plain wrong.
It is a bit puzzling how you appear to be baffled by sunspots being on the far side of the sun as that is beyond common.

It would appear you are only confused within your own understanding to wit you held a belief which was proven false?

I hadn't read the rest of your reply.

You think that the activity on the other side of the sun is static and will still be there next summer?

Occams razor does not apply to predictions, it applies to conclusions.



Is is even more baffling how you assume people are so stupid they do not realize what I actually said and never implied or stated sunspots on the opposite side of the Sum were unusual. Why would you make such and ass out of yourself.


I am not confused at all, I know precisely where the source of my error originated.

I think it is likely that there is some as of yet undiscovered reason why solar emissions are all occurring in that direction and that it will most likely not change. It could be the relative position of the galactic center with the Sun, which is actually has a fairly high probability of being correct.