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I'm still getting to all the replies since the 21st so that I'm up to speed.

About my own personal story if anybody's interested.

I went to a mtn in korea that was nearest me on the night of the 21st that had the highest elevation. Of course, the highest for this country is still not very high, but I figure have to make due with what we got.

Anyhoot...

There was this underground bunker that I found. I'm like Holy Shi*! So I camped the night out there and then the next day just to make sure. Friggin freezing of course, since it's been -10C at least. From shock to anger to just pure glee that I'm at least here to see another day!

I hate to say it, but this is why one of my questions to you AA before was how did you know it was the 21st? I had a hunch back then that they gave us an erroneous date, and you didn't offer a conclusive answer then I'm sorry to admit. I forgive you for it seems you've learned your lesson at the present moment.

I'm with you though at any rate. the white boys played with the calendar, so that we'd look like fools. Shit, do you know how many threads they came on to make it a point that if we were wrong, to offer an apology? This was like a point for all the shills to do on many a thread, this being of course the pinnacle of them all imo.
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Yes, it seems to me they knew for an absolute certainty that this was the wrong date, and the only way that could be is if they knew the right date and promulgated a false date intentionally using academia,the mass media, government agencies and the entertainment industry, all of which a certain unmentionable group of Anti-Semitic conspirators control..

With the solar maximum reaching a peak and the Earth passing through an energy conductive plasma cloud, the only way they could be so certain is if they knew they had promulgated a false date and know the real date.

It will interesting to see how they react as things develop. If the effects of solar storms increase rapidly as we near the summer solstice, my guess is they will delete this thread and do everything they can to prevent me from posting anywhere on the internet.

They won't kill me, they would have already if that were an option. I think if it weren't for my bloodline and my ancestry they have but never let anyone tell you there is only one faction of power brokers working in unison, and very action has an equal and opposite reaction. It is a false meme that one organization rules over the entire world.. There are at least three factions that I know of who most definitely not working together and are fighting continuously for dominance,including the Asian version of the so called "Illuminati", the "jewish" controlled Freemasons, and the Roman Catholic church.
The Freemasons are a common denominator and uniter amongst the Jews, the Muslims and the Christians with all three basically united under the flag of Masonry covertly with the Jews of course ruling that power block by controlling the flow of capitol and information, but without any of the common followers knowledge.

Though Christianity is controlled by freemasons, there has always been a rift between Freemasonry and the Catholic Church, which is and always has been independently wealthy and beyond the control of the Jewish faction..

There is currently a power struggle between the three I mentioned that I know of personally, and the Russians aren't playing ball any more either with the Freemasons, making three very powerful entities and one moderately powerful one all fighting for world dominance..See if you can guess which one of them is opposing me and which one has my back....
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You were wrong and your excuses are just that. Prior to the 21st you predicted mass changes in weather etc so beyond what was already occurring nobody could deny them

Your 21 date was nothing to do with the Mayans you only made that connection earlier

When I asked you in this thread why you thought you were so right as predictions on glp always fail you stated you would be proven correct and your predictions on GLP were not going to fail


Now you are trying to spin it and change the dates and use the fact you only said you were 98.5 sure as giving you an out. Not going to wash 98.5 is as good as saying you are positive you will be correct and there are numerous responses from you when people questioned your information that you ripped in to them. Berated them wenton about your high IQ and how you were correct.

You got so many things wrong you were not even close. Just admit itand stop trying to spin this for another 6 months. When the weather changes you predicted for the fall did nt happen it was obvious your big event was going to fail. Whatever methods you are using to calculate this stuff it is obvious you have no idea and have failed to deliver on any of your major predictions

Maybe you can not accept the fact you are wrong. Maybe you can not accept the( fact that there is no great cleansing and some entity to sort it all out. Maybe the truth is hard for you take. I think you should just admit you failed stop making excuses, apologize to the people who you misled and had high hopes that you were right and thatvtherevwas some great equalizer some type of cosmic justice.

On the bright side at least everyone now knows If they want to live in a different world they will have to do it themselves as nobody coming from above or wherever to help. So many ancient texts cultur etc talk about such a cleansing etc and so many dates throughout history have been thrown around as the date. It has never happened and yet people still cling to something someone other than us sorting this mess out.

Do yourself a favor atop trying to,push June as your new date as we all know if that fails you will be then saying next December. Truth is it was not only the date you got wrong you got so many predictions leading up to the date wrong.

You now join a loneliest of failed predictions on glp and like many on glp,who make such predictions you are predictably making excuses and throwing around a new date.

You had the whole year you had multiple opportunities to change your opioon ESP when everything you said would occur in the fall did nt' but you didn't

I do predict one thing you will keep making excuses you will point to some minor things you got right to somehow prove you were not wrong etc.

Ps weather here is normal and has been for most of the region. Normal as defined by the fact that the weather has been odd for a few years now, what you predicted was way above and beyond that. It. Never happened and neither did your great cleansing.
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I'm still getting to all the replies since the 21st so that I'm up to speed.

About my own personal story if anybody's interested.

I went to a mtn in korea that was nearest me on the night of the 21st that had the highest elevation. Of course, the highest for this country is still not very high, but I figure have to make due with what we got.

Anyhoot...

There was this underground bunker that I found. I'm like Holy Shi*! So I camped the night out there and then the next day just to make sure. Friggin freezing of course, since it's been -10C at least. From shock to anger to just pure glee that I'm at least here to see another day!

I hate to say it, but this is why one of my questions to you AA before was how did you know it was the 21st? I had a hunch back then that they gave us an erroneous date, and you didn't offer a conclusive answer then I'm sorry to admit. I forgive you for it seems you've learned your lesson at the present moment.

I'm with you though at any rate. the white boys played with the calendar, so that we'd look like fools. Shit, do you know how many threads they came on to make it a point that if we were wrong, to offer an apology? This was like a point for all the shills to do on many a thread, this being of course the pinnacle of them all imo.
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Yes, it seems to me they knew for an absolute certainty that this was the wrong date, and the only way that could be is if they knew the right date and promulgated a false date intentionally using academia,the mass media, government agencies and the entertainment industry, all of which a certain unmentionable group of Anti-Semitic conspirators control..

With the solar maximum reaching a peak and the Earth passing through an energy conductive plasma cloud, the only way they could be so certain is if they knew they had promulgated a false date and know the real date.

It will interesting to see how they react as things develop. If the effects of solar storms increase rapidly as we near the summer solstice, my guess is they will delete this thread and do everything they can to prevent me from posting anywhere on the internet.

They won't kill me, they would have already if that were an option. I think if it weren't for my bloodline and my ancestry they have but never let anyone tell you there is only one faction of power brokers working in unison, and very action has an equal and opposite reaction. It is a false meme that one organization rules over the entire world.. There are at least three factions that I know of who most definitely not working together and are fighting continuously for dominance,including the Asian version of the so called "Illuminati", the "jewish" controlled Freemasons, and the Roman Catholic church.
The Freemasons are a common denominator and uniter amongst the Jews, the Muslims and the Christians with all three basically united under the flag of Masonry covertly with the Jews of course ruling that power block by controlling the flow of capitol and information, but without any of the common followers knowledge.

Though Christianity is controlled by freemasons, there has always been a rift between Freemasonry and the Catholic Church, which is and always has been independently wealthy and beyond the control of the Jewish faction..

There is currently a power struggle between the three I mentioned that I know of personally, and the Russians aren't playing ball any more either with the Freemasons, making three very powerful entities and one moderately powerful one all fighting for world dominance..See if you can guess which one of them is opposing me and which one has my back....
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You mean they'll erase your history and then ask you for your specific predictions AGAIN? Oh c'mon, that's for the mind of a conspiratorial nature, not yours or ours ha..(laughter grows faint to oblivion).

Do tell.

Is it true that Russia at least has been kinder to its populace, with bunkers for the avg Joe? There was a certain hysteria there too I read, but if this were the testing ground for things still to come, they're still better off than the rest, who now I've no doubt won't do a damn thing because it's been purportedly shown time and time again that we are off our rockers.
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Your inability to address my points proves my case entirely. QED.

There is no argument even among my most venomous critics that I predicted a perfectly geo effective Sunspot on that date many years in advance....that is why they went as far as to censor the MDI continuum at SOHO and alter data after the fact.
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No. There was a sunspot you could interpret as geoeffective, but it was too early for your date.

This is why I placed such high odds on this being the date of the cleansing and a massive solar event, but there was a wild card that I overlooked and that was the source of the information concerning the end of the Mayan long count.
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Well, if you carefully spelt out exactly how you got to those odds in advance, perhaps someone coud have corrected you *before* the fact. Well, other than me loudly betting against you.

All of this being said, while the Sun IS in fact closest to the Sun in winter, the pull of the forces holding the galaxy together causes the Earth to be closest to the galactic center in the Summer in the northern hemisphere at the same time it is farthest from the Sun. This is also the time when the Earth is actually between the Sun and the galactic center and would be on the galactic plane were the Sun to be. Since on the solstices, we know the three line up, we can assume also that this is the time when the Earth would cross the galactic plane if the Sun were located precisely on it, even though the galactic plane and the ecliptic plane are inclined approximately 60 degrees to each other.
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So how it that going to be any different that the *billions* of solstices the Earth has experienced?

It is at this time that the Earth reaches the point in it's orbit around the Sun that it is between the Galactic center and the Sun. I believe after carefully consideration of various facts that the position of the galactic center relative to the Sun is the causative factor in why all of the solar activity is occurring on the galactic center side of the Sun. It seems logical, since nearly all of the solar flares and CME's are erupting in this direction.
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So, as I asked before, when June 22nd comes and goes exactly as December 22nd, what then?

Could this mean the Summer Solstice is the actual end of the Mayan calender?
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Nope.

Could this hypothetical "fact" be intentionally concealed, and if the "things" in control knew a precise date would they tell us, or would they promulgated a false date to throw us all off, fooling even the most intelligent of researchers and observers? YOU BET YOUR ASS THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THEY WOULD DO< and I am shamed by the fact that I was taken for a ride by the very thing I mistrust and repeatedly warned others not to trust.
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So now the wrong-date conspiracy can be traced as far back as the 1920s, and the 16th century. Hilarious!


Like I said, I will not make any predictions nor place any odds on specific events occurring at specific times other than generalizations,
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Heh. As somone else pointed out, you really *have* learned from Nancy Lieder. Your one experiment with particulars, predictions, and dates was an abject failure. Do you change your theory? No! We just don't put specifics in our theory any more, and now you can carry it forward forever! The cleansing is forever one more solstice away!

In other words, it isn't a theory. It's a belief. And a weak one at that.

It is very important to remember how extremely accurate the Mayans methods of keeping time and predicting celestial events was and is...
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Right up to where they proved you wrong, that is...



and there are strong indicators that the end of the long count marks a catastrophe event that "restarts" the Earth and marks a beginning of new power structure and way of living.
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There is no evidence that the Mayans believed this, any more than we believed January 1st will restart the Earth. Mayan cycles were just much more long.

But none of that matters. Remember you came up with the dates *independent* of the Maya! You said so yourself!
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I'm with you though at any rate. the white boys played with the calendar, so that we'd look like fools.
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Or you could, y'know, just be wrong.

Yes, it seems to me they knew for an absolute certainty that this was the wrong date, and the only way that could be is if they knew the right date and promulgated a false date intentionally using academia,the mass media, government agencies and the entertainment industry, all of which a certain unmentionable group of Anti-Semitic conspirators control..
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Or you could, y'know, just be wrong.

With the solar maximum reaching a peak and the Earth passing through an energy conductive plasma cloud, the only way they could be so certain is if they knew they had promulgated a false date and know the real date.
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Or you could, y'know, just be wrong.

It will interesting to see how they react as things develop. If the effects of solar storms increase rapidly as we near the summer solstice, my guess is they will delete this thread and do everything they can to prevent me from posting anywhere on the internet.
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You've been saying that for years. The entire mythology that you've developed around your over-inflated sense of self importance is remarkable to behold. It's one of the things that just keeps me engaging you.
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AA

You were wrong and your excuses are just that. Prior to the 21st you predicted mass changes in weather etc so beyond what was already occurring nobody could deny them

Your 21 date was nothing to do with the Mayans you only made that connection earlier

When I asked you in this thread why you thought you were so right as predictions on glp always fail you stated you would be proven correct and your predictions on GLP were not going to fail


Now you are trying to spin it and change the dates and use the fact you only said you were 98.5 sure as giving you an out. Not going to wash 98.5 is as good as saying you are positive you will be correct and there are numerous responses from you when people questioned your information that you ripped in to them. Berated them wenton about your high IQ and how you were correct.

You got so many things wrong you were not even close. Just admit itand stop trying to spin this for another 6 months. When the weather changes you predicted for the fall did nt happen it was obvious your big event was going to fail. Whatever methods you are using to calculate this stuff it is obvious you have no idea and have failed to deliver on any of your major predictions

Maybe you can not accept the fact you are wrong. Maybe you can not accept the( fact that there is no great cleansing and some entity to sort it all out. Maybe the truth is hard for you take. I think you should just admit you failed stop making excuses, apologize to the people who you misled and had high hopes that you were right and thatvtherevwas some great equalizer some type of cosmic justice.

On the bright side at least everyone now knows If they want to live in a different world they will have to do it themselves as nobody coming from above or wherever to help. So many ancient texts cultur etc talk about such a cleansing etc and so many dates throughout history have been thrown around as the date. It has never happened and yet people still cling to something someone other than us sorting this mess out.

Do yourself a favor atop trying to,push June as your new date as we all know if that fails you will be then saying next December. Truth is it was not only the date you got wrong you got so many predictions leading up to the date wrong.

You now join a loneliest of failed predictions on glp and like many on glp,who make such predictions you are predictably making excuses and throwing around a new date.

You had the whole year you had multiple opportunities to change your opioon ESP when everything you said would occur in the fall did nt' but you didn't

I do predict one thing you will keep making excuses you will point to some minor things you got right to somehow prove you were not wrong etc.

Ps weather here is normal and has been for most of the region. Normal as defined by the fact that the weather has been odd for a few years now, what you predicted was way above and beyond that. It. Never happened and neither did your great cleansing.
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Bingo.
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I don't recall talking to anyone from Sri Lanka, the NSA set you up with a pretty good proxy, huh?

Open the thread and then I will post.
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You mean they'll erase your history and then ask you for your specific predictions AGAIN?
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They have already erased the vast majority of what I have published on the internet,

Oh c'mon, that's for the mind of a conspiratorial nature, not yours or ours ha..(laughter grows faint to oblivion).

Do tell.
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The nature of human existence is conspiracy, the human conspiratorial nature begins on the playgrounds.
Is it true that Russia at least has been kinder to its populace, with bunkers for the avg Joe? There was a certain hysteria there too I read, but if this were the testing ground for things still to come, they're still better off than the rest, who now I've no doubt won't do a damn thing because it's been purportedly shown time and time again that we are off our rockers.
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The Russians aren't playing ball with any of the three groups I mentioned , they don't fluoridate their water, poison their children with "vaccinations", or even allow the use of microwave ovens, and they treat their people as their most important asset. In the end it may be them who rekindle modern society. The "things" who are greedily preparing for their own preservation are the specific target of the cleansing, and they know it. They are going to attempt to defy the creators will.

That's why they hate me so much, because they know I am aware of it and I am certain of it.
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BTW, for educational purposes and to inform those who are unaware, and Sunspot that is on the limb of the Suns disk or visible on the face of it is potentially geo effective. Sunspots not even viable have been geo effective in the past. This clearly shows the level of ignorance of agent 74444 and astonut on the subject matter.

What was so unusual about the solstice Sunspot is it's precise location at the center of the Suns visible disk exactly at the precise point in time I predicted it would be.

I verified this by direct observation, and though it is difficult to determine the precise center of a circle just by looking at it, by taking a photograph of it through a welding lens it was possible to determine the Sunspot was at most 1 or 2 degrees off dead center of the Suns disk. Blow up to a diameter of 8 inches and then bisected on both axises,the lines crossed on the Sunspot.

Remember, I made this prediction in 2004, which to the prudent means my methodology is valid and accurate.
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Ps weather here is normal and has been for most of the region. Normal as defined by the fact that the weather has been odd for a few years now

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So now odd is normal. I see. Is that the same reasoning behind the 'validity' of the word antisemitic?

I hsve already repeatedly conceded you are right that my precise and exact predictions concerning the weather were off, as was the lack of geo effective solar activity. The two were of course directly connected.

The reason for the lack of solar activity on this side of the Sun is still a bit of mystery, but I do have some strong evidence indicating it is a result of the relative position of the Sun to the Galactic center, which in fact makes perfect sense.
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If the resent pattern persists, when summer arrives Solar activity will be geo effective. Remember, there were several massive coronal mass ejections that NASA admitted had they been geo effective we would have been facing technological collapse.

I made an error, and one must remember it is difficult to make an error when one does nothing.
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"They" are working on response to my posts above, and a team of disinfo ops will do their best to discredit me, allowing agent 74444 or some other individual who for obvious reasons will remain anonymous to speak for them.

The fact that they don't attach names to their posts in a case like this indicates their mission is covert.

There is no reason to hide ones identity in a discussion about astrophysics unless your mission is to decieve,
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I guess we'll see Mr.Nancy Leider here again in June......mark your calendars!!!!
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Hello AA. I had checked in this thread from time to time. Frankly I'm appalled to see that many people keep saying that as it did not happen on the 21st, it will surely happen soon enough.

I am no astrophycist, only a guy that started to see a pattern a few years ago and followed watching.

For a long time I had been convinced that after 12/21/2012, we were all be gone. Later I found that no event was going to happen in that date, at least nothing final.

For wath is worth, I have been in contact with a "contactee" for the last 8 years. She always said that 2012 was important, but I had never paid much attention to other things she said about it. Then during 2011, I found that she had been saying for a long time (since 2000) that 2012 was just the moment in which Earth would enter a "magnetically neutral area of space". That would mean many things, but mainly an increase on the rate of odd weather and EQs, but mainly changes in the way that people acts an reasons, and particularly in the way that society reacts to stuff. This should express itself as evem more social unrest, and most certainly in the long dreaded WW3 nuclear weapons included.

She has been told that the final events, the ones that will probably mean the end of life on the surface of Earth, will happen in the time frame starting in January 2015, but, and this is the part that puts most people off, this can happen also in any year after this date, up to 2020. This, as best as she can explain, is because the destruction is associated to the passage close to Earth, or collision with Earth, of a celestial body that many call Hercolobus, and that the speed at which this celestial body approachs Earth depends on the result of our collective actions. In some way, the mayans "end of time" was the end of time for humanity to reach a certain point in which it could send Hercolobus away, depending on the degree of global consciousness attained. This already did not happen, so, probably the arrival of Hercolobus will happen any time between 2015 and 2019. The effects will be sensible way before this arrival.

The entities to which this friend of mine is in contact with, have been on Earth since 600 years ago preparing for these events, their mission has been to select a few humans that will be spared the fate of the remaining. So few indeed that is hearthcrushing. She says no one that, at the moment of the passage of Hercolobus, is in the surface or Earth, will survive. You will have to be either in space (ships) or in the deeo underground bases of the Intra terrestrials.

I know this sounds crazy. Yet, unlike al other contactees, my friend is a humble person that works as everyone else does, and does not gives conferences, nor write books, and only tells all this things to people that she knows need to hear it.

For what its worth.
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Nice spin AA but........


All the Mayan calendars relate and interleave with each other just like all the cycles that they were made to notate do.

Do you even know what the Mayan "long count" calendar puts into notation?

No one has given it away plainly yet.

The "long count" is a cycle that is known about in science AA so that in and of itself shows that the cycle end has past and has started again.

Do you know what the cycle is called in modern terms?

You appear to now be saying that the Maya made a mistake but they did not and the long count had nothing at all to do with catastrophic "cleansing" or anything of the kind.
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BTW, for educational purposes and to inform those who are unaware, and Sunspot that is on the limb of the Suns disk or visible on the face of it is potentially geo effective. Sunspots not even viable have been geo effective in the past. This clearly shows the level of ignorance of agent 74444 and astonut on the subject matter.

What was so unusual about the solstice Sunspot is it's precise location at the center of the Suns visible disk exactly at the precise point in time I predicted it would be.

I verified this by direct observation, and though it is difficult to determine the precise center of a circle just by looking at it, by taking a photograph of it through a welding lens it was possible to determine the Sunspot was at most 1 or 2 degrees off dead center of the Suns disk. Blow up to a diameter of 8 inches and then bisected on both axises,the lines crossed on the Sunspot.

Remember, I made this prediction in 2004, which to the prudent means my methodology is valid and accurate.
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Look let me put it out there

NOWHERE in this entire thread did you predict a sunspot on a certain day.

If you can produce evidence of that I will leave the thread permanently.

You have predicted flares from sunspots which did not occur but you have never predicted a sunspot ever in this thread.

You were calling for some super lightning bolt or some such fantasy not a sunspot.

And has been shown already your sunspot that you keep crowing about was NOT dead center to the earth on the 21st.

By the way what in the hell is a NON viable sunspot?
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You mean they'll erase your history and then ask you for your specific predictions AGAIN?
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They have already erased the vast majority of what I have published on the internet,

Oh c'mon, that's for the mind of a conspiratorial nature, not yours or ours ha..(laughter grows faint to oblivion).

Do tell.
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The nature of human existence is conspiracy, the human conspiratorial nature begins on the playgrounds.
Is it true that Russia at least has been kinder to its populace, with bunkers for the avg Joe? There was a certain hysteria there too I read, but if this were the testing ground for things still to come, they're still better off than the rest, who now I've no doubt won't do a damn thing because it's been purportedly shown time and time again that we are off our rockers.
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The Russians aren't playing ball with any of the three groups I mentioned , they don't fluoridate their water, poison their children with "vaccinations", or even allow the use of microwave ovens, and they treat their people as their most important asset. In the end it may be them who rekindle modern society. The "things" who are greedily preparing for their own preservation are the specific target of the cleansing, and they know it. They are going to attempt to defy the creators will.

That's why they hate me so much, because they know I am aware of it and I am certain of it.
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Russia does do "vaccinations"

[link to www.nap.edu]

Microwave ovens are all over Russia and have been since the late 80s being later than US an europe due to the cost.

[link to boards.straightdope.com]

" Bill Kopp invented the Soviet banning of microwave ovens, this was picked up by Anthony Wayne and Laurence Newell in their "article" The Hidden Hazards of Microwave Cooking which itself was picked up Joseph Mercola and the myth then spread. If you actually look at the sites that state that microwave ovens were banned you come across essentially repetitions of these articles but absolutely no evidence whatsoever. Several debunkers have asked Russian lawyers to find the relevant law, or the law supposedly repealing it, but to no avail.

It's a myth.

Another related myth is that the Nazis invented the microwave oven for use on the Eastern Front against the Soviets. The Germans weren't fools, if they had a cavity magnetron - the gizmo that creates the microwaves - they would have done exactly the same as the Brits (who did have it) and put it into a radar set and shoved it into every aeroplane they could. It's funny that despite our knowing about German top secret work on oil from shale, aerodynamics, jet engines, rockets, tank armour, etc, never have microwave ovens ever appeared on any list.

It's another myth.

Now how effective is that! One evil empire invents satanic microwave ovens, another evil empire finds them so demonic even they have to ban them, so if the evil people ban it why haven't we? Very very effective, based on the number of times these are quoted, but with absolutely no evidence whatsoever. None. Zip.

So if neither the Germans nor the Soviets had microwave ovens, how could they have done work on them? Now the whole house of cards starts to wobble.

Conclusion - myths, but very ably and effectively used myths."

Some cities in Russia do fluoridate albeit few but many have naturally high fluoridation in their water supplies
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I would like to add that not only does russia do vaccinations, they have a higher percentage of participation than even the United States.
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I would like to add that not only does russia do vaccinations, they have a higher percentage of participation than even the United States.
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They don't use vaccinations to poison their population, they use them for the overt purpose. and microwave ovens are banned in Russia.
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I would like to add that not only does russia do vaccinations, they have a higher percentage of participation than even the United States.
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They don't use vaccinations to poison their population, they use them for the overt purpose. and microwave ovens are banned in Russia.
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No microwave ovens are not and never have been banned in Russia

You never met a scam websource you won't defend have you?

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I would like to add that not only does russia do vaccinations, they have a higher percentage of participation than even the United States.
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They don't use vaccinations to poison their population, they use them for the overt purpose. and microwave ovens are banned in Russia.
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[link to www.electroburg.ru]
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BTW, for educational purposes and to inform those who are unaware, and Sunspot that is on the limb of the Suns disk or visible on the face of it is potentially geo effective. Sunspots not even viable have been geo effective in the past. This clearly shows the level of ignorance of agent 74444 and astonut on the subject matter.

What was so unusual about the solstice Sunspot is it's precise location at the center of the Suns visible disk exactly at the precise point in time I predicted it would be.

I verified this by direct observation, and though it is difficult to determine the precise center of a circle just by looking at it, by taking a photograph of it through a welding lens it was possible to determine the Sunspot was at most 1 or 2 degrees off dead center of the Suns disk. Blow up to a diameter of 8 inches and then bisected on both axises,the lines crossed on the Sunspot.

Remember, I made this prediction in 2004, which to the prudent means my methodology is valid and accurate.
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So you took a picture through a welding lens too?
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I would like to add that not only does russia do vaccinations, they have a higher percentage of participation than even the United States.
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They don't use vaccinations to poison their population, they use them for the overt purpose. and microwave ovens are banned in Russia.
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[link to www.electroburg.ru]
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[link to articles.mercola.com]

Microwave ovens were banned in Russia in 1876 and remained banned until "perestroika". For a very brief period microwave ovens were legal to buy in Russia, but they were banned again as soon as Gorbachev was deposed. He was very obviously an agent of the new world order Putin IS NOT
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I would like to add that not only does russia do vaccinations, they have a higher percentage of participation than even the United States.
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They don't use vaccinations to poison their population, they use them for the overt purpose. and microwave ovens are banned in Russia.
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[link to www.electroburg.ru]
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[link to articles.mercola.com]

Microwave ovens were banned in Russia in 1876 and remained banned until "perestroika". For a very brief period microwave ovens were legal to buy in Russia, but they were banned again as soon as Gorbachev was deposed. He was very obviously an agent of the new world order Putin IS NOT
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I would like to add that not only does russia do vaccinations, they have a higher percentage of participation than even the United States.
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They don't use vaccinations to poison their population, they use them for the overt purpose. and microwave ovens are banned in Russia.
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[link to www.electroburg.ru]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29820852


[link to articles.mercola.com]

Microwave ovens were banned in Russia in 1876 and remained banned until "perestroika". For a very brief period microwave ovens were legal to buy in Russia, but they were banned again as soon as Gorbachev was deposed. He was very obviously an agent of the new world order Putin IS NOT
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Better check on that as Mercola is a scam artist

And he got his information from the source I posted which is complete fabrication.

"Bill Kopp invented the Soviet banning of microwave ovens, this was picked up by Anthony Wayne and Laurence Newell in their "article" The Hidden Hazards of Microwave Cooking which itself was picked up Joseph Mercola and the myth then spread. "

[link to www.electroburg.ru]

Russian microwave ovens for sale
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Perhaps you might better check your facts and the reliability of your sources
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Perhaps you might better check your facts and the reliability of your sources
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Perhaps. But the question is , does a e-commerce site selling microwave ovens to three cities in Russia mean microwave ovens are legal in Russia?

In our own country there are thousands of sites marketing goods which are illegal in the United States to buy or sell, are there not?

I also find it interesting that the site you referenced delivers goods to only three cities in Russia.

Here is search independent of google with over 1500 references to the fact that microwave ovens are banned in Russia. Google results probably have these links buried behind several pages of sources declaring it a hoax. It is not a hoax, and Russia is certainly not the only country banning their use or moving in that direction.

[link to search.zonealarm.com]
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Perhaps you might better check your facts and the reliability of your sources
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Perhaps. But the question is , does a e-commerce site selling microwave ovens to three cities in Russia mean microwave ovens are legal in Russia?

In our own country there are thousands of sites marketing goods which are illegal in the United States to buy or sell, are there not?

I also find it interesting that the site you referenced delivers goods to only three cities in Russia.

Here is search independent of google with over 1500 references to the fact that microwave ovens are banned in Russia. Google results probably have these links buried behind several pages of sources declaring it a hoax. It is not a hoax, and Russia is certainly not the only country banning their use or moving in that direction.

[link to search.zonealarm.com]
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zonealarm?

No microwave ovens are not banned anywhere in the world

I cited where that rumor came from and all references tie back to that

Microwave ovens are not big selling items in various countries for various reasons.

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