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I'm sorry folk's that you believe Dr. Astro to be a shill or what ever,,, I'm by habit a what you would call a Lurker.. I read everybody's opinions and try to balence what is worthwhile with what isn't.. My point being is that with the thousands of post's I've read.. Mr. Astro has never tried to mislead anybody... So if ya'all want to fuck with anybody fuck with me cuz I lurk..And remember... Astro thanks for al the time you spend trying to make us stupid people understand... Bravo to you...
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Look up shill and there is a picture of you
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I'm sorry folk's that you believe Dr. Astro to be a shill or what ever,,, I'm by habit a what you would call a Lurker.. I read everybody's opinions and try to balence what is worthwhile with what isn't.. My point being is that with the thousands of post's I've read.. Mr. Astro has never tried to mislead anybody... So if ya'all want to fuck with anybody fuck with me cuz I lurk..And remember... Astro thanks for al the time you spend trying to make us stupid people understand... Bravo to you...
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Look up shill and there is a picture of you
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sissy boy
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Very intelligent post. You know the saying, good enough for government work.
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Marty....Marty....Marty....
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I would be embarrassed to suck azz for living. Where do you draw the line? Lurker my AZZ, ANYONE WHO WOULD SELL THEIR DIGNITY IS A DISGRACE TO THEIR OWN CHILDREN.
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Marty....Marty....Marty....
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or is it


Freelapse...Freelapse...Freelapse

eh, opie??
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No, no, no.
You remember, the death dealing X Ray flux penetrating to sea level from those scary (and imaginary) zooper zolar flares that killed those couple hundred people in France back in 2004.
The debunkers, mainly Dr P and I, laughed at your absurd claim that they didn't die from heatstroke but from being fried by X Rays from solar flares which would, according to you, only get worse as the year wore on and kill million if not billions.

Remember?

I think you were role playing as an engineer at that time.
Maybe it was during your Casino Magnate period where you owned a casino or two and made, what?, $200000 a weekend?

How's that biz these days?
(snicker)

Any time on those X Ray calcs. I think you've had plenty of time to do the simple calculations, young man. It only involved solving on Calculus equation, but you do have to know enough to determine the equation in the first place.


R.
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It was 10's of thousands of people that died in france and since then NASA has published information admitting their are huge voids in the magnetosphere JUST AS I CLAIMED> You are quite the idiot. That so called heat wave just happened to coincide with the arrival of a CME while the sun was directly overhead in france and the geomagnetic field was extremely unstable, all a matter of archived records..
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Oh, mea culpa, 10s of thousands.
All died from X Rays. The Riviera had bodies of the sunbathers stacked like chord wood on the beaches since they all received a lethal dose from old Sol?

Any time on those calculations, Mr. Astrophysicist.


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Marty....Marty....Marty....
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or is it


Freelapse...Freelapse...Freelapse

eh, opie??
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i THINK IT IS MORE LIKELY SPEEDBUNP SPEEDBUMP SPEEDBUMP OR FREEBASE FREEBASE FREEBASE. IT IS A WELL KNOWN FACT ALMOST ALL GOVERNMENT DISINFO OPS HAVE SUBSTANCE ABUSE PROBLEMS, THEY ARE EASY TO CONTROL
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By the way, the prediction of 90 degrees on Christmas day in the northern states was very conservative, and will mist likely be worst. By that time it won't matter anyway, because there will be no way to say "I told you so", no do i revel in being able to beat my chest and take credit for predicting that probability.

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Alas, that doesn't do him much good, either.
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The failed prediction has already been acknowledged and I believe adequately explained in full detail, which begs the question, why do you feel the need to repeat it over and over and over again?
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1181905


Actually, it's two separate failed predictions. The first was that the great Cleansing you have predicting would occur on December 21st. That one failed.

The second separate prediction of yours was ninety degree temperatures this Winter. That *also* failed.

We have a few more dates coming up, and I find it likely that those will fall into the 'failed' category as well.

In real science we do not berate another fellow scientist for a failed prediction based on theory, we move on and maybe try to determine what the failed prediction means and why it occurred.
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By that definition, you are not a scientist, then. You berate others, including 'fellow scientists' all the time.

And the reason why the failure occurred is that your premise is utterly wrong. But you'll never admit that, even as the cleansing fails to occur over and over again.
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I also can't help but notice how you failed to answer these questions, and instead came up with pages of obfuscation. It is obvious IDW/A.A really wants the thread to wander away from the questions he won't answer. Here, I'll even bold them (which somehow demonstrates I am not an agent, but I expect IDW will rapidly change his tine on THAT one).


Hey IDW, when was the last time the LX200 Classic had an update of any kind?
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


This is important, and I'd like to see an answer. Surely, IDW/A.A, you can check this out and answer it completely and honestly.

You can also answer these.

And yet, out of the box, with no updates whatsoever, they track flawlessly.

Updates are good -- they fix bugs and add objects to the database. But the models I mentioned have no mechanisms whatsoever without removing the chips altogether. Yet, they work. Can you *explain* that, IDW/A.A? Do you believe that all telescopes manufactured before 2000 are unable to track the heavens?

Autostar has been good about updates; there was one in January 2013 and the earlier version is from August 2012. Both, of course, require connecting the controller to a computer, but the telescopes will track without the upgrade just fine.

Celestron hasn't issued an update since 2007. Does that mean all Celestron GOTO telescopes are now broken?

How would a STARWHEEL work if there was unpredicted motions of the Earth? How do you IMAGINE it would get updated? Why can you use a Starwheel from 30 years ago and still find constellations rising and setting on time?
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These are not rhetorical questions. If you can explain how these instruments, precisely measuring the heavens, can somehow adapt to the unpredictable sky you've postulated, I'm all ears.

If you cannot, be a man and admit you're wrong.

Any individual who has any experience in astronomy knows that because the position of the Earth relative to the universe is moving in several different vectors, a few which are unknowns, the chandler wobble is totally unpredictable , there is no such thing as an immovable mount and that the Gregorian method of timekeeping is grossly inaccurate, that it would be impossible for clockwork or computer software to inaccurately locate celestial objects over more than few months period of time at best.
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How are eclipses, transits, and occultations predicted so accurately, then -- some *centuries* in advance?
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Again, please explain how these predictions could work so accurately if anything were moving in unpredictable ways in the sky. If you cannot, I submit that you are grossly in error.

Please address my questions, completely and politely, or simply admit that your claim was erroneous. If you do, I won't even add this latest blunder to the List.
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"Calculations" can prove anything you want them to if you lie about the input data or skew the result intentionally.
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Then show your skewed calculations proving your assertion of unpredictably moving skies correct.

If you can.
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NO SIR, IT IS NOT NORMAL AND NEVER HAS BEEN AND YOU HAVE NOT AND CANNOT AND WILL NOT EXPLAIN IT BECAUSE YOU SIMPLY ARE INCAPABLE OF DOING SO.
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Then prove that he's wrong. You made the claim that the moon isn't moving or appearing as it should. Back it up with something. Can you? I thought not.
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fuck off, YOU LOST THAT ARGUMENT IN CASE YOU DIDN'T NOTICE. THE MOST SOPHISTICATED TELESCOPES IN THE WORLD MUST BE CALIBRATED NIGHTLY BY A PROCESS KNOWN AS MAPPING AND BY REFERENCING THE POSITIONS OF SEVERAL CELESTIAL OBJECTS . COMPUTERIZED SOFTWARE CONTROLLING TELESCOPES HAS TO BE UPDATED PERIODICALLY. NOW FUCK OFF
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I'd say judging by your use of all caps that someone is getting very angry - a sure sign they're losing.
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No it is not. There was no lunar eclipse on January 30th, 1971. Furthermore, I already proved it was normal with my calculations. On January 30th, 1971, that is exactly what the moon should have looked like. It was a horizontal crescent phase.
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You're dealing with an obvious moron. As a child I remember seeing the moon appear as a horizontal crescent. My grandmother used to tell me, quite erroneously of course, that it was like a spoon and if it tipped, it meant it was going to rain. I recall seeing it in a tipped position and, coincidentally enough, it did rain the next day.
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Prove the date the photo was taken. Prove it wasn't a partial lunar eclipse / There is NO WAY the moon can rise with a horizontal terminator unless something fundamental has changed in the relative positions if the Earth Sun and moon
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1181905


Why don't YOU prove that it can't. I haven't seen anything from you but grand claims with no supporting data. Dr. Astro, on the other hand, has provided lots of data proving you wrong.
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Read the title of the thread again and then notice the .gov in the link., lamebrain. These are the same people we have PROVED have been lying to us systematically in this thread. There were two eclipses in 1971. To not have at least a partial lunar eclipse somewhere on Earth in any given year would be quite unusual.
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Where have you proven anything? I have yet to see it.
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If nothing else has been proved here, one thing has been conclusively. Not only is the government lying to us and actively conspiring to conceal information and data as well as fabricate and censor it, there are people active on the internet who are actively engaged in lying for them.
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Yeah - that would be you.
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You are a traitor. You are being paid to lie...
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And there we have it - proof positive that you're losing the argument. When all else fails - claim the other person is a paid shill.
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One of the things I find very amusing is that the same people who were claiming global warming was fact as long as they could float the turd that it was caused by human activity suddenly changed their stories to the "the weather is normal and we've had a normal winter' when it was proved that global warming was causing the increase in CO@ and not the other way around..Now all of a sudden everything is ok and you don't hear a peep about global warming because the know the next step is people figuring out the truth so it is best just to let the issue die, right? You go outside and the Sun is brighter and feels hotter on your skin. The connection isn't hard to make.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1181905


I haven't seen any such reversal on this. NOWHERE have I seen ANYONE who said that global warming was real suddenly change their mind. Why? Because you can't use ONE winter to come to a conclusion. You need to look at winter climate over several years to see if there's a trend. And this winter is far from normal. I live in CO...we've had temps 20 degrees ABOVE normal for over two months. Our precipitation is over 6 inches below normal for the third year in a row. Chicago didn't have any snow for a whole year. How is any of that normal?
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The hell if I know, or anyone else. There is simply no way to validate this and you know it. Who do you think you are fooling. Anyone with eyes and a brain and a memory knows you are full of shit, idiot. You can make numbers appear to 'prove' whatever you want them to and it is virtually impossible to show exactly where you falsified the calculations unless we catch you like we did with the human caused global warming goretards.

Science is empiricism. Empirical evidence indicates a radical change has occurred. End of story.
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If you can't validate this then how can you claim there's a conspiracy afoot? I'm 45 and I can tell you I've seen the crescent and half moons appear at all kinds of angles over my lifetime.
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OH horseshit. You're not fooling anyone. I made my point and I proved it.
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Where? Re-post it...or tell us where it is.
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One of the things I find most amusing is I OWN every one of you shills. You are at me beck and call. Come here boy, NOW!
cruise
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LOL! It's quite the other way around. You prove it whenever you get mad and call people paid shills. You're just too stupid to figure it out. Carry on.

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Look up shill and there is a picture of you
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Ah....did you get your feelings hurt that someone called BS on all your claims and pointed out that Dr Astro is the only one providing any supporting evidence. Poor baby.
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I would be embarrassed to suck azz for living.
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Then why do you do it?
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IT IS A WELL KNOWN FACT ALMOST ALL GOVERNMENT DISINFO OPS HAVE SUBSTANCE ABUSE PROBLEMS, THEY ARE EASY TO CONTROL
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Really? Where's your supporting evidence on that? Care to provide any?
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AA you fail so hard, why do you keep coming back for more? Constantly found out and proven wrong, most just give up arguing. Do you think you are clever because of this? You think you might convince someone? Problem is you alienate and drive away any supporters and discredit any thoery by associating with it.
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No, no, no.
You remember, the death dealing X Ray flux penetrating to sea level from those scary (and imaginary) zooper zolar flares that killed those couple hundred people in France back in 2004.
The debunkers, mainly Dr P and I, laughed at your absurd claim that they didn't die from heatstroke but from being fried by X Rays from solar flares which would, according to you, only get worse as the year wore on and kill million if not billions.

Remember?

I think you were role playing as an engineer at that time.
Maybe it was during your Casino Magnate period where you owned a casino or two and made, what?, $200000 a weekend?

How's that biz these days?
(snicker)

Any time on those X Ray calcs. I think you've had plenty of time to do the simple calculations, young man. It only involved solving on Calculus equation, but you do have to know enough to determine the equation in the first place.


R.
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It was 10's of thousands of people that died in france and since then NASA has published information admitting their are huge voids in the magnetosphere JUST AS I CLAIMED> You are quite the idiot. That so called heat wave just happened to coincide with the arrival of a CME while the sun was directly overhead in france and the geomagnetic field was extremely unstable, all a matter of archived records..
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Oh, mea culpa, 10s of thousands.
All died from X Rays. The Riviera had bodies of the sunbathers stacked like chord wood on the beaches since they all received a lethal dose from old Sol?

Any time on those calculations, Mr. Astrophysicist.


R.
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Actually as I understand the situation, most of France's residences are constructed with metal roofs, copper mainly, and I personally believe it was the secondary radiation (Bremsstrahlung, the ability of beta particles to produce a secondary radiation , x-rays and gamma rays produced when beta particles or other electrons decelerate while passing near the nuclei of atoms) that was most deadly and the people who died were mostly old people and very young children, both who are sensitive to radiation. If the energy levels are high enough, Bremsstrahlung can produce deadly gamma radiation, whereas the particles though ionizing radiation may not show immediate effects until many years later and you die of cancer. I hope this explanation has been helpful. it is no coincidence that the arrival of a massive CME coincided with this mass death and another in India when the Sun was almost directly overhead and the particles had the least atmosphere to penetrate.
If you want the 'calculations' to prove it, go the the NRC's handbook on radiation and do them yourself. It is not possible to get an accurate result though, because we do not know the exact flux density and energy range of the particles involved when they came in contact with the metal roofing, but we can safely assume it quite energetic given the solar data for that day and the condition of the magnetosphere at the time being oriented south..
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No it is not. There was no lunar eclipse on January 30th, 1971. Furthermore, I already proved it was normal with my calculations. On January 30th, 1971, that is exactly what the moon should have looked like. It was a horizontal crescent phase.
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You're dealing with an obvious moron. As a child I remember seeing the moon appear as a horizontal crescent. My grandmother used to tell me, quite erroneously of course, that it was like a spoon and if it tipped, it meant it was going to rain. I recall seeing it in a tipped position and, coincidentally enough, it did rain the next day.
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Horse shit. There are literally thousand of pictures on the internet of the moon rising, show us ONE that can be time verified that does not come from a .gov source of the moon rising with horizontal terminator, and then for the sake of the people not so skilled in the art of deception explain how if the moon is in the approximate same plane as the earth is orbiting the sun that this is possible.
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No it is not. There was no lunar eclipse on January 30th, 1971. Furthermore, I already proved it was normal with my calculations. On January 30th, 1971, that is exactly what the moon should have looked like. It was a horizontal crescent phase.
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You're dealing with an obvious moron. As a child I remember seeing the moon appear as a horizontal crescent. My grandmother used to tell me, quite erroneously of course, that it was like a spoon and if it tipped, it meant it was going to rain. I recall seeing it in a tipped position and, coincidentally enough, it did rain the next day.
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Horse shit. There are literally thousand of pictures on the internet of the moon rising, show us ONE that can be time verified that does not come from a .gov source of the moon rising with horizontal terminator, and then for the sake of the people not so skilled in the art of deception explain how if the moon is in the approximate same plane as the earth is orbiting the sun that this is possible.
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Yes, there are thousands of images on the internet showing the moon in all different orientations relative to the horizon. Are you claiming they are ALL fake and that the moon's terminator line should ALWAYS be horizontal?
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No it is not. There was no lunar eclipse on January 30th, 1971. Furthermore, I already proved it was normal with my calculations. On January 30th, 1971, that is exactly what the moon should have looked like. It was a horizontal crescent phase.
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You're dealing with an obvious moron. As a child I remember seeing the moon appear as a horizontal crescent. My grandmother used to tell me, quite erroneously of course, that it was like a spoon and if it tipped, it meant it was going to rain. I recall seeing it in a tipped position and, coincidentally enough, it did rain the next day.
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Horse shit. There are literally thousand of pictures on the internet of the moon rising, show us ONE that can be time verified that does not come from a .gov source of the moon rising with horizontal terminator, and then for the sake of the people not so skilled in the art of deception explain how if the moon is in the approximate same plane as the earth is orbiting the sun that this is possible.
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Yes, there are thousands of images on the internet showing the moon in all different orientations relative to the horizon. Are you claiming they are ALL fake and that the moon's terminator line should ALWAYS be horizontal?
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Sorry- Are you claiming the terminator should ALWAYS be vertical?
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[link to photography.nationalgeographic.com]


Notice on this page of a person who has been keeping a photo journal of the moon that all photos except the most recent once on Christmas that are NOT of an eclipse and labeled as such show a nearly vertical terminator.

[link to www.pbase.com]

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