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Blab blab bullshit bullshit
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


With your consistent record of being totally full of shit, lying and your clearly illustrating a total lack of scientific aptitude, you will have to pardon me and I imagine anyone else able to access the thread if we don't take anything you write as anything other than total unadulterated horseshit, which it is.

If you were an expert astronomer you would be able to set up a telescope without permanently damaging it and voiding the warranty. You would also know that all major observatories do a nightly mapping run if they intend to locate multiple targets and that no amateur astronomer can auto locate a single celestial object without setting up his telescope using the procedure I outlined..You also wouldn't need to claim the work of others as your own, as in the photos you posted earlier. Those were the work of professional astronomers, top notch scientists who knew exactly what thy were doing, and not you, and the GLP telescope NEVER worked properly.

You are a bullshit artist and everyone on GLP knows it, why you continue to be paid is a mystery to me, you're fucking idiot. I miss the days of disinfo ops like Duncan Kunz who despite the fact that they were professional liars, at least they were good at it. You are no challenge with your self contradictory stupid posts.
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No, what it means is I am familiar with the real terminology involved in doing the real calculations because I've actually done them.
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Then perhaps you can explain why I have no problem setting up a telescope and having it actually work as it is supposed to and you can't do it?
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 Quoting: Anonymous Atrophysicist 1391715


If you have no problem setting up and using the scope, then you have already proved the Moon is moving as predicted. If your telescope can track it, it is moving in no unpredictable way at all. QED.

Thanks for proving Astro's case (more than he already had!).
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I don't recall claiming a properly set up telescope will track the moon properly, it won't. Two years ago it would, almost.
 Quoting: Anonymous Atrophysicist 1384202


Excellent: an experiment! So, based on your claim, if a GOTO telescope is aligned ONLY with the stars, and tracks those fine, if you tell the GOTO to slew to the Moon, it will FAIL.

Easy enough test. Do you agree with the premise? Any criticisms of the experiment?

Almost no normal amateur astronomer has a permanent fixed mount for his telescope, meaning an alignment has to be done by a process known as mapping with each use. I went thorough this process every single night I set up my own telescope while I was involved in the hobby less than 12 years ago.
 Quoting: Anonymous Atrophysicist 1384202


Then why are you so *bad* at it? Never mind.

Even if what you are claiming were true, it's *irrelevant.* Better yet, you don't understand why!

And the process of aligning a scope is *not* mapping.

Even telescopes fixed in solid bedrock need to be mapped nightly to obtain accurate auto location. This is because being a one hundred thousandth of a degree off will result in total failure, and the timekeeping system in use is not accurate enough to obtain accuracy to this degree, as has already been shown to you through professional references.
 Quoting: Anonymous Atrophysicist 1384202


You are *hopelessly* misunderstanding the references. Try reading them again. Slowly.


Without nightly mapping the telescope will locate the Celestia object through the spotter scope then the main telescope must be fine adjusted. THIS IS WHY ALL MAJOR OBSERVATORIES WITH COMPETENT PEOPLE AT THE COM DO A NIGHTLY MAPPING RUN, WHICH TAKES UP TO AN HOUR DEPENDING ON HOW FAST THE TELESCOPE IS.
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Please show evidence of this remarkable assertion. Do you have any links to back you up on this?

The computer can then track or find celestial obejcts after several objects are mapped. This does not in any wa indicate they are in the 'proper' places. noly that thye have not moved realtive to each other or in the case of the planets in an unexpected trajectory
 Quoting: Anonymous Atrophysicist 1384202


Of *course* it indicates they are in their proper places. If they are moving in 'improper' ways, the telescope cannot predict them. Why don't you understand this horribly simple concept?

GOTOs make four basic assumptions. If *any* of them are wrong, the telescope will fail.

The assumptions are: Earth moves at a predictable rate around the Sun, Earth rotates on its axis at a predictable rate, Earth's axis is fixed (at least as measured in years or centuries), and objects within the solar system move predictably according to Newton's Laws.

Other than that, all a GOTO has is a set map in it's little electronic brain -- and that map has *no way* to predict or adapt to *any* unpredictableness in any of those assumptions.

So, any criticisms of the GOTO experiment outlined above?
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Blab blab bullshit bullshit
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


With your consistent record of being totally full of shit, lying and your clearly illustrating a total lack of scientific aptitude, you will have to pardon me and I imagine anyone else able to access the thread if we don't take anything you write as anything other than total unadulterated horseshit, which it is.

If you were an expert astronomer you would be able to set up a telescope without permanently damaging it and voiding the warranty. You would also know that all major observatories do a nightly mapping run if they intend to locate multiple targets and that no amateur astronomer can auto locate a single celestial object without setting up his telescope using the procedure I outlined..You also wouldn't need to claim the work of others as your own, as in the photos you posted earlier. Those were the work of professional astronomers, top notch scientists who knew exactly what thy were doing, and not you, and the GLP telescope NEVER worked properly.

You are a bullshit artist and everyone on GLP knows it, why you continue to be paid is a mystery to me, you're fucking idiot. I miss the days of disinfo ops like Duncan Kunz who despite the fact that they were professional liars, at least they were good at it. You are no challenge with your self contradictory stupid posts.
 Quoting: Anonymous Atrophysicist 1384202


Your stupid yourself for posting bullshit. Stop accusing others about stuff that isn't true. You sir need to learn a thing or two Bout how telescopes work. Other than that, stop posting stupid nonsense.
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Blab blab bullshit bullshit
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With your consistent record of being totally full of shit, lying and your clearly illustrating a total lack of scientific aptitude,
 Quoting: Anonymous Atrophysicist 1384202

Then prove it. Answer my questions. Why am I able to accurately predict the moon's current position to within at least an arcminute using a book that was published 22 years ago, a decade before you were involved in the hobby?
you will have to pardon me and I imagine anyone else able to access the thread
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Oh, back on that unable to access thread BS because more people here disagree with you than agree with you? You do not speak for the people reading and participating in this thread. Most of them agree with me that you're the one who's full of it. They see that you're running away from my questions and they do not accept your pathetic excuses for doing so. Whereas you are unable to make these calculations, I have done so and I have presented them for everyone to see and use for themselves.
If you were an expert astronomer you would be able to set up a telescope without permanently damaging it and voiding the warranty.
 Quoting: IDW

I did. You are lying. I posted photographic and video proof as well a thread proving that you're a liar as well.


You think you're terribly clever and can get away with lying. You think the ends justify the means, so you need to scare people into thinking something is "off" with the moon so that they'll "prepare." Part of doing that involves trying to discredit me, so you invent lies like this. The thing is, you're not clever, and there is proof right here of your lies:
Yes, I can.
Thread: **Breaking** FIRST UFO on GLP Observatory!! Comet/Object Flying Through Space!!
More pictures I took from the GLP observatory:
crabnebulaglpflamenebulaglpwidehorseglpnarrowhorseglp
Again, it works, it has been used by the members here, what they are currently working on with it has nothing to do with me. You have now been exposed not only as someone who can't do the simple calculations outlined above, but flat out lies when cornered.
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Prove those photos came from the GLP telescope. I happen to know it has NEVER worked
 Quoting: Anonymous Atrophysicist 1391715


You are such a liar! The proof is right there!
Thread: **Breaking** FIRST UFO on GLP Observatory!! Comet/Object Flying Through Space!!
People all saw the scope in action. The videos from the live webcasts are all still right here:
[link to www.justin.tv]
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You would also know that all major observatories do a nightly mapping run if they intend to locate multiple targets and that no amateur astronomer can auto locate a single celestial object without setting up his telescope using the procedure I outlined..
 Quoting: IDW

Wrong. You latched onto that "mapping" term because of the quote I quoted from the paramount manual. Which clearly says it saves the alignment session to session with no additional synchronization. You don't even know what mapping is, you just latched onto the term because I used it.
• Once a mapping run (page 47) has been completed, the Paramount ME can maintain extremely accurate pointing without additional synchronization."
[link to www.ruf.rice.edu]
 Quoting: Dr. Astro

This goes back to that part where you think you're clever. You're not. You're not even slightly intelligent. Your lies have now been exposed for all to see.
You also wouldn't need to claim the work of others as your own, as in the photos you posted earlier.
 Quoting: IDW

That is my work. Ask Trinity. Ask SHR. They'll verify that. SHR himself saw me take and process those photos in person.
Those were the work of professional astronomers, top notch scientists who knew exactly what thy were doing,
 Quoting: IDW

One astronomer. Me. An amateur astronomer.
and not you, and the GLP telescope NEVER worked properly.
 Quoting: IDW

Liar.
You are such a liar! The proof is right there!
Thread: **Breaking** FIRST UFO on GLP Observatory!! Comet/Object Flying Through Space!!
People all saw the scope in action. The videos from the live webcasts are all still right here:
[link to www.justin.tv]
 Quoting: Dr. Astro

You are a bullshit artist and everyone on GLP knows it, why you continue to be paid is a mystery to me, you're fucking idiot.
 Quoting: IDW

You're projecting your own insecurities. Those on GLP who are dimwitted enough to think I'm a "bullshit artist" do so because of the defamatory lies of people like you. They're not even clever though because the info to expose them is right at hand. It's all right there, which is why anyone who has two brain cells to rub together can easily see that you are the liar here, not me.
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Then perhaps you can explain why I have no problem setting up a telescope and having it actually work as it is supposed to and you can't do it?
cruise
 Quoting: Anonymous Atrophysicist 1391715


If you have no problem setting up and using the scope, then you have already proved the Moon is moving as predicted. If your telescope can track it, it is moving in no unpredictable way at all. QED.

Thanks for proving Astro's case (more than he already had!).
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I don't recall claiming a properly set up telescope will track the moon properly, it won't. Two years ago it would, almost.
 Quoting: Anonymous Atrophysicist 1384202


Excellent: an experiment! So, based on your claim, if a GOTO telescope is aligned ONLY with the stars, and tracks those fine, if you tell the GOTO to slew to the Moon, it will FAIL.

Easy enough test. Do you agree with the premise? Any criticisms of the experiment?

Almost no normal amateur astronomer has a permanent fixed mount for his telescope, meaning an alignment has to be done by a process known as mapping with each use. I went thorough this process every single night I set up my own telescope while I was involved in the hobby less than 12 years ago.
 Quoting: Anonymous Atrophysicist 1384202


Then why are you so *bad* at it? Never mind.

Even if what you are claiming were true, it's *irrelevant.* Better yet, you don't understand why!

And the process of aligning a scope is *not* mapping.

Even telescopes fixed in solid bedrock need to be mapped nightly to obtain accurate auto location. This is because being a one hundred thousandth of a degree off will result in total failure, and the timekeeping system in use is not accurate enough to obtain accuracy to this degree, as has already been shown to you through professional references.
 Quoting: Anonymous Atrophysicist 1384202


You are *hopelessly* misunderstanding the references. Try reading them again. Slowly.


Without nightly mapping the telescope will locate the Celestia object through the spotter scope then the main telescope must be fine adjusted. THIS IS WHY ALL MAJOR OBSERVATORIES WITH COMPETENT PEOPLE AT THE COM DO A NIGHTLY MAPPING RUN, WHICH TAKES UP TO AN HOUR DEPENDING ON HOW FAST THE TELESCOPE IS.
 Quoting: Anonymous Atrophysicist 1384202


Please show evidence of this remarkable assertion. Do you have any links to back you up on this?

The computer can then track or find celestial obejcts after several objects are mapped. This does not in any wa indicate they are in the 'proper' places. noly that thye have not moved realtive to each other or in the case of the planets in an unexpected trajectory
 Quoting: Anonymous Atrophysicist 1384202


Of *course* it indicates they are in their proper places. If they are moving in 'improper' ways, the telescope cannot predict them. Why don't you understand this horribly simple concept?

GOTOs make four basic assumptions. If *any* of them are wrong, the telescope will fail.

The assumptions are: Earth moves at a predictable rate around the Sun, Earth rotates on its axis at a predictable rate, Earth's axis is fixed (at least as measured in years or centuries), and objects within the solar system move predictably according to Newton's Laws.

Other than that, all a GOTO has is a set map in it's little electronic brain -- and that map has *no way* to predict or adapt to *any* unpredictableness in any of those assumptions.

So, any criticisms of the GOTO experiment outlined above?
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Anxiously awaiting a response to this post from IDW...
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Another experiment: If the Moon is moving unpredictably, then the annular solar eclipse, visible from Australia and the Pacific on May 10th should utterly fail to occur.

[link to eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Likewise, just 15 days later, there will be a penumbral Lunar eclipse as well, visible to the entire continental United States. Again, if the Moon were moving in the ways you are claiming, that should also utterly fail to occur.

[link to eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov]

What say you to *that* experiment, IDW/A.A? You wisely rejected my wager about December 21st. Would you care to wager on these two eclipses occurring in May?
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Sorry to hear you weren't able to get yours to work right (and it's funny how you only started using and misusing that "mapping" term after I introduced it a couple pages back - clearly you still don't understand it), but can you please explain then why I am able to accurately predict the moon's current position to within at least an arcminute using a book that was published 22 years ago, a decade before you were involved in the hobby?

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Still waiting for an answer on this burning question...
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Sorry to hear you weren't able to get yours to work right (and it's funny how you only started using and misusing that "mapping" term after I introduced it a couple pages back - clearly you still don't understand it), but can you please explain then why I am able to accurately predict the moon's current position to within at least an arcminute using a book that was published 22 years ago, a decade before you were involved in the hobby?

 Quoting: Dr. Astro

Still waiting for an answer on this burning question...
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


He can't access the thread I.E: frantically Googling and trying to think up an answer that makes him look clever.
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Sorry to hear you weren't able to get yours to work right (and it's funny how you only started using and misusing that "mapping" term after I introduced it a couple pages back - clearly you still don't understand it), but can you please explain then why I am able to accurately predict the moon's current position to within at least an arcminute using a book that was published 22 years ago, a decade before you were involved in the hobby?

 Quoting: Dr. Astro

Still waiting for an answer on this burning question...
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Astro, the only thing I can provisionally conclude is that IDW/A.A didn't *understand* the video.

Which, in itself, is mind-blowing. No pun intended.
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Sorry to hear you weren't able to get yours to work right (and it's funny how you only started using and misusing that "mapping" term after I introduced it a couple pages back - clearly you still don't understand it), but can you please explain then why I am able to accurately predict the moon's current position to within at least an arcminute using a book that was published 22 years ago, a decade before you were involved in the hobby?

 Quoting: Dr. Astro

Still waiting for an answer on this burning question...
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Astro, the only thing I can provisionally conclude is that IDW/A.A didn't *understand* the video.

Which, in itself, is mind-blowing. No pun intended.
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So we are currently have Dr Astro @ 107 proven facts to Anonymous Astrophysicist 0 Its apparent to those late to the party who is he liar here.

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Sorry to hear you weren't able to get yours to work right (and it's funny how you only started using and misusing that "mapping" term after I introduced it a couple pages back - clearly you still don't understand it), but can you please explain then why I am able to accurately predict the moon's current position to within at least an arcminute using a book that was published 22 years ago, a decade before you were involved in the hobby?

 Quoting: Dr. Astro

Still waiting for an answer on this burning question...
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Astro, the only thing I can provisionally conclude is that IDW/A.A didn't *understand* the video.

Which, in itself, is mind-blowing. No pun intended.
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fullrtard
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biden laughing
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Another experiment: If the Moon is moving unpredictably, then the annular solar eclipse, visible from Australia and the Pacific on May 10th should utterly fail to occur.

[link to eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Likewise, just 15 days later, there will be a penumbral Lunar eclipse as well, visible to the entire continental United States. Again, if the Moon were moving in the ways you are claiming, that should also utterly fail to occur.

[link to eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov]

What say you to *that* experiment, IDW/A.A? You wisely rejected my wager about December 21st. Would you care to wager on these two eclipses occurring in May?
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Why don't we do a real experiment, one that will reveal just how full of shit you and the bullshit 'science' you represent really is. No astronomer worth his weight in manure would deny that the Mayans predicted the timing of solar and lunar eclipses with greater accuracy than modern astronomers are capable of ten years in advance by calculation over 800 years ago.

In fact they use the Mayan calender to predict them to this day. Show us any reference that predates , oh ,let's say 1975 that predicts a lunar eclipse on May 10th visible from Australia and show the calculations involved that predict it.

Failure to do so is admitting it is not calculations being used to predict these eclipses, but the Mayan calender. Just because you are unwilling to admit it means nothing.
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So we are currently have Dr Astro @ 107 proven facts to Anonymous Astrophysicist 0 Its apparent to those late to the party who is he liar here.

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So we are currently have Dr Astro @ 107 proven facts to Anonymous Astrophysicist 0 Its apparent to those late to the party who is he liar here.


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Dr. Asshole hasn't posted a single verifiable fact other than posting references to facts that say exactly what I did. He has absolutely no independent input of any kind. His record is total failure in astronomy, and he has proved it by destroying or rendering useless perfectly good equipment wheras if I had been involved i could have at least set up the equipment where it would work..
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This thread has obviously gone to the trolls, stalkers and .gov bullshit artists, there's not a single real person posting besides myself.

Look at page one through 75.

Who do you think you are fooling?

You think your t stock psychology works on me?

Has it ever?

The more you pester me the more firmly convinced I am on the right track. My latest theory was the moon has moved into an orbit much closer than 5 degrees inclination to the ecliptic. I must be right to have this many man hours spent on me when there is not a single real individual who is able to post to or access the thread without being instabanned(now send in the fake 'support)
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So we are currently have Dr Astro @ 107 proven facts to Anonymous Astrophysicist 0 Its apparent to those late to the party who is he liar here.

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Sorry to hear you weren't able to get yours to work right (and it's funny how you only started using and misusing that "mapping" term after I introduced it a couple pages back - clearly you still don't understand it), but can you please explain then why I am able to accurately predict the moon's current position to within at least an arcminute using a book that was published 22 years ago, a decade before you were involved in the hobby?

 Quoting: Dr. Astro

Still waiting for an answer on this burning question...
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Still no answer...
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Another experiment: If the Moon is moving unpredictably, then the annular solar eclipse, visible from Australia and the Pacific on May 10th should utterly fail to occur.

[link to eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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In fact they use the Mayan calender to predict them to this day. Show us any reference that predates , oh ,let's say 1975 that predicts a lunar eclipse on May 10th visible from Australia and show the calculations involved that predict it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Atrophysicist 1384202

Lack of reading comprehension?

In fact they [astronomer] use the Mayan calender to predict them [solar and lunar eclipses] to this day.

... it is not calculations being used to predict these eclipses, but the Mayan calender.
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Thus you are telling us the Mayans knew some thousand years ago, that the moon would start moving unpredictable in 2010?

You just shot yourself in the foot.


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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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Good lord, what a stupidshill shitstorm
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Yep...and you're the eye of the shit storm.
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Suffice it to say by the time a year is up you will be feeding the maggots.
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Can you give us a hint as to what excuse you'll be using when he's still here a year from now?
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yep.....but you beat them every time AA......your logic is undeniable.....

Even when they tag team you, they fail......
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Yep, he beats us at being stupid. And we fail to look stupid. Thanks for clearing that up for all of us.
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Funny how you can't do that- hilarious, in fact, since you want people to "explain" something you can't even show a picture of.
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Even funnier that he refuses to do it. He keeps making grand claims but refuses, repeatedly, to present any supporting evidence. As an "astrophysicist" he should know how the scientific method works - and yet he chooses to abandon it. The only reason I can think of that he would do that is because to follow it would end up proving him wrong.
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This thread has obviously gone to the trolls, stalkers and .gov bullshit artists, there's not a single real person posting besides myself.

Look at page one through 75.

Who do you think you are fooling?

You think your t stock psychology works on me?

Has it ever?

The more you pester me the more firmly convinced I am on the right track. My latest theory was the moon has moved into an orbit much closer than 5 degrees inclination to the ecliptic. I must be right to have this many man hours spent on me when there is not a single real individual who is able to post to or access the thread without being instabanned(now send in the fake 'support)
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Checking to see if I can post....

Yep...

No instaban....
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Arguing with stupid idiot is the folly of fools, you cannot win.
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I suppose you're right - and right now you're the fool that can't win because you won't back up your claims, you won't provide evidence and you won't answer questions. All we get is obfuscation.

You haven't said anything. It is amazing how shills can post pages of posts and never say a single thing you can pin them down with. If you aren't denying it, what is your point?
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You're the only one who hasn't said anything. But, by all means, continue saying nothing.

BTW, I noticed you've taken to calling people names - another sure sign you're losing the debate.
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There is absolutely no complex calculations or need to over complicate this issue. True genius explains in the simplest terms , not complicates to appear intelligent..True genius has no need to pretend.
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In other words - you don't understand anything he said.

I showed you precisely in very simple terms why the observations that have been seen all around the world are not possible at the latitudes they are occurring unless the moons orbit has changed. BY using terms like azimuth and "position-angle" of the moons limb, you prove to everyone you are not a genius nor even above average intelligence, but a copy paste parrot.
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Where? Provide the link again.
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I must admit I take a somewhat sadistic pleasure in torturing .gov shills.
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And there we have it - when losing an argument claim the other party works for the government.

It must suck having your ass handed to you time and time again.
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Prove those photos came from the GLP telescope. I happen to know it has NEVER worked
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Prove it has never worked. I'm willing to bet Trinity can verify these photos. And if he does - will you say then?
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I'm not Trained poodle, i don't jump through hoops for an idiot> I showed the only proof necessary To prove you a pretender and an idiot and that i was right about the moon and YOU, and that is why I had to reset my ip to post again
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Translation: You can't do it so you won't even try.
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