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If someone who claims to be an astronomer, has his avatar stating astrophysicist, starts a thread with outrageous claims with no evidence to back them up then I think others calling upon that proof to be shown and his claims to be verified are entitled to do so.

Not once has evidence been presented by him.
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cruise 5a

You need to take a closer look.
And who are you anyway, little coward? You know who I am, why do you hide your identities if you are above boards?. Not even Phil Plait or Jay "the weasel" Windley does that!
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This reminds me of the scene in the movies where the monster is chased by the villagers through the countryside.. with pitchforks and scythes..

but they can't quite catch up.
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Actually, the better analogy is the Monty Python one where the fallen knight never admits he is hopelessly beaten.
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Ah, yes.. the noble quest.. against all odds.
Never submitting to defeat.
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Quit blowing your own horn, you have lost a ten on one battle royal. How is that for a metaphor?
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Since I am aware that I am on a forum for momentary entertainment.. that doesn't apply.
My only battle is with my own inner demons.
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Let's try that again.


Another experiment: If the Moon is moving unpredictably, then the annular solar eclipse, visible from Australia and the Pacific on May 10th should utterly fail to occur.

[link to eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Likewise, just 15 days later, there will be a penumbral Lunar eclipse as well, visible to the entire continental United States. Again, if the Moon were moving in the ways you are claiming, that should also utterly fail to occur.

[link to eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov]

What say you to *that* experiment, IDW/A.A? You wisely rejected my wager about December 21st. Would you care to wager on these two eclipses occurring in May?
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Why don't we do a real experiment, one that will reveal just how full of shit you and the bullshit 'science' you represent really is. No astronomer worth his weight in manure would deny that the Mayans predicted the timing of solar and lunar eclipses with greater accuracy than modern astronomers are capable of ten years in advance by calculation over 800 years ago.
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The Mayans were fabulous astronomers, and wrote things down. That's one of the reasons we know the 13th b'ak'tun started December 21st, and that predicted eclipses and transits fit with the calendar, demonstrating your claim of 'missing years' to be full of doo-doo.

But I digress.

In fact they use the Mayan calender to predict them to this day.
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How did the Maya predict the unpredicted motion that you say the Moon is currently experiencing? Did they somehow *know* the Moon's orbit was going to change, as you claim it has?



Show us any reference that predates , oh ,let's say 1975 that predicts a lunar eclipse on May 10th visible from Australia and show the calculations involved that predict it.
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It is a solar eclipse. But that's an easy error to make.

Failure to do so is admitting it is not calculations being used to predict these eclipses, but the Mayan calender. Just because you are unwilling to admit it means nothing.
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Well, let me get this straight. If one can find and produce a source that predicts the current upcoming eclipses from 1975 or before, that would prove *to you* that the Moon is moving predictably? If one is able to do this, would you concede the experiment I outlined above would be incontrovertible in testing your claims, and that if the eclipses occur as predicted, your cosmology is utterly wrong?

Just want to make sure that I am understanding you clearly and completely.
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BTW, I haven't had an avatar since the solar flare/chemtrail forecasting days, where I had an extremely high degree of accuracy in predicting solar f;ares and when and where chemtrail activity would be extreme during the last solar maximum. The reason I am set upon by this pack of jackals is not because I am just some crackpot nutcase, in case you didn't notice you shills leave them threads alone..Everyone knows the pattern, the more shill activity the more credibility the poster has.
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Oh, and I still need a comment on the following experiment testing your claim as well:

Based on your claim, if a GOTO telescope is aligned ONLY with the stars, and tracks those fine, if you tell the GOTO to slew to the Moon, it will FAIL.

Easy enough test. Do you agree with the premise? Any criticisms of the experiment?
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BTW, I haven't had an avatar since the solar flare/chemtrail forecasting days, where I had an extremely high degree of accuracy in predicting solar f;ares and when and where chemtrail activity would be extreme during the last solar maximum. The reason I am set upon by this pack of jackals is not because I am just some crackpot nutcase, in case you didn't notice you shills leave them threads alone..Everyone knows the pattern, the more shill activity the more credibility the poster has.
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Were that so, 90 percent of us would have died in the great cleansing of 2012.

Strangely, I feel fine.
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My only battle is with my own inner demons.
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You should have never opened that door and let them in, the Kabbalist are all demon possessed
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Oh, and a third question -- when did you start spelling astrophysicist wrong in your name, and why?
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BTW, I haven't had an avatar since the solar flare/chemtrail forecasting days, where I had an extremely high degree of accuracy in predicting solar f;ares and when and where chemtrail activity would be extreme during the last solar maximum. The reason I am set upon by this pack of jackals is not because I am just some crackpot nutcase, in case you didn't notice you shills leave them threads alone..Everyone knows the pattern, the more shill activity the more credibility the poster has.
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The obvious pattern is the one where you dodge and dance around specific questions and go off on tangents where you tout a vast, yet vague conspiracy while avoiding providing any concrete proof of your wild claims.
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Well, let me get this straight. If one can find and produce a source that predicts the current upcoming eclipses from 1975 or before, that would prove *to you* that the Moon is moving predictably?
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I already know the moon is moving according to the Mayan predictions with a great degree of accuracy. I also *know* that long range prediction are made using it, never giving it the credits.

Showing the eclipse was predicted in 1975 does not prove how. I think I made it clear, show your calculations that were *VERIFIABILITY* made in 1975 that predicted it.

Good luck.
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Oh, and a third question -- when did you start spelling astrophysicist wrong in your name, and why?
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To prevent being autobanned. My original user ID was also autobanned
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BTW, I haven't had an avatar since the solar flare/chemtrail forecasting days, where I had an extremely high degree of accuracy in predicting solar f;ares and when and where chemtrail activity would be extreme during the last solar maximum. The reason I am set upon by this pack of jackals is not because I am just some crackpot nutcase, in case you didn't notice you shills leave them threads alone..Everyone knows the pattern, the more shill activity the more credibility the poster has.
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Were that so, 90 percent of us would have died in the great cleansing of 2012.

Strangely, I feel fine.
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Not necessarily. Did I ever claim 100% accuracy, or even claim the date was certain?

I don't recall doing that. And I gave a very detailed explanation of how and why the prediction failed, including evidence a year had been skipped in the Gregorian calender. I think ti is also noteworthy that the nearly precisely geo effective sunspot DID in fact appear in the center of the SUns disk on 12/21/12 just as I predicted over 8 years in advance.
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Oh, and a third question -- when did you start spelling astrophysicist wrong in your name, and why?
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To prevent being autobanned. My original user ID was also autobanned
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It's hard to be such an insufferable dickhead as to get autobanned on GLP. Apparently you did it, though.
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Oh, and a third question -- when did you start spelling astrophysicist wrong in your name, and why?
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To prevent being autobanned. My original user ID was also autobanned
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It's hard to be such an insufferable dickhead as to get autobanned on GLP. Apparently you did it, though.
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There is only one thing you cannot do on GLP and that is establish credibility and tell the truth.
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Oh, and a third question -- when did you start spelling astrophysicist wrong in your name, and why?
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To prevent being autobanned. My original user ID was also autobanned
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It's hard to be such an insufferable dickhead as to get autobanned on GLP. Apparently you did it, though.
 Quoting: Menow 636186


There is only one thing you cannot do on GLP and that is establish credibility and tell the truth.
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So what, exactly, is keeping you from posting an image of the alleged anomaly you claim took place where the moon rose with a "perfectly horizontal terminator" last summer?
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There is some indication from what I have seen that the end date of the Mayan calender was falsely promulgated pulling out all the stops as being on the winter solstice of 2012. Since I cannot decipher the Mayan hieroglyphs, I am unable to confirm the end date. I know the actual date by interpolation and by closely examining the pattern that has manifested itself over the past year or so.

You can waterboard me and I won't tell you, you're not to know.
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Well, let me get this straight. If one can find and produce a source that predicts the current upcoming eclipses from 1975 or before, that would prove *to you* that the Moon is moving predictably?
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I already know the moon is moving according to the Mayan predictions with a great degree of accuracy. I also *know* that long range prediction are made using it, never giving it the credits.

Showing the eclipse was predicted in 1975 does not prove how. I think I made it clear, show your calculations that were *VERIFIABILITY* made in 1975 that predicted it.

Good luck.
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But, I'm confused. Is the Moon moving predictably or not?

Actually when you get to thinking about it, it seems likely the most probable reason for it is that the moons orbit is no longer five degrees off the ecliptic, but right on it, probably forced into that orbit by forces in the glactic plane. This would explain the smilie face moonrise transforming gradually into what appears to be an almost normal moon as the night wears on, WE ARE SEEING A PARTIAL LUNAR ECLIPSE WHEN WE SEE THIS SMILIE FACE MOON RISE because the earth is coming between the sun and the moon as it rises!

THIS is the answer
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You are claiming here that the Moon is moving in VERY unusual ways -- so much so GOTOs cannot track it. Is it or isn't it?

If it is moving unpredictably, why are Mayan/traditional eclipse predictions still accurate?

Which is it, IDW/A.A? It can't be both.
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To prevent being autobanned. My original user ID was also autobanned
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It's hard to be such an insufferable dickhead as to get autobanned on GLP. Apparently you did it, though.
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There is only one thing you cannot do on GLP and that is establish credibility and tell the truth.
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So what, exactly, is keeping you from posting an image of the alleged anomaly you claim took place where the moon rose with a "perfectly horizontal terminator" last summer?
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It rose in partial lunar eclipse last night at 7:26 PM at my home last night and then gradually transitioned into a normal waning moon with a proper terminator angle by 815 pm. I have photographs taken every 30 seconds to post here if I am allowed again to imbed.
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BTW, I haven't had an avatar since the solar flare/chemtrail forecasting days, where I had an extremely high degree of accuracy in predicting solar f;ares and when and where chemtrail activity would be extreme during the last solar maximum. The reason I am set upon by this pack of jackals is not because I am just some crackpot nutcase, in case you didn't notice you shills leave them threads alone..Everyone knows the pattern, the more shill activity the more credibility the poster has.
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Were that so, 90 percent of us would have died in the great cleansing of 2012.

Strangely, I feel fine.
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Not necessarily. Did I ever claim 100% accuracy, or even claim the date was certain?
 Quoting: Anonymous Atrophysicist 1179023


No -- just 98.5% as a very conservative estimate, and that the date was certain.

You wrote it, you own it.

I don't recall doing that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Atrophysicist 1179023


Your selective memory remains infamous.



And I gave a very detailed explanation of how and why the prediction failed, including evidence a year had been skipped in the Gregorian calender.
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Which would make no difference, since had that happened, eclipses of the Gregorian and eclipses of the Maya calendars would fail to line up as exactly as they do.

I think ti is also noteworthy that the nearly precisely geo effective sunspot DID in fact appear in the center of the SUns disk on 12/21/12 just as I predicted over 8 years in advance.
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Well, the day before, anyway. And you never gave a baseline on how often such sunspots appear...

But, again, I digress. Back to the subject at hand.
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It's hard to be such an insufferable dickhead as to get autobanned on GLP. Apparently you did it, though.
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There is only one thing you cannot do on GLP and that is establish credibility and tell the truth.
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So what, exactly, is keeping you from posting an image of the alleged anomaly you claim took place where the moon rose with a "perfectly horizontal terminator" last summer?
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It rose in partial lunar eclipse last night at 7:26 PM at my home last night and then gradually transitioned into a normal waning moon with a proper terminator angle by 815 pm. I have photographs taken every 30 seconds to post here if I am allowed again to imbed.
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Why is it that you are unable to answer a direct question? I didn't ask about last night. I asked about an image supporting your claim that the moon rose with a "smiley face perfectly horizontal terminator" last summer.
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If it is moving unpredictably, why are Mayan/traditional eclipse predictions still accurate?

Which is it, IDW/A.A? It can't be both.
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It can if the Mayans were better astronomers than modern astronomers, why not?
I think it obvious they were, the evidence is undeniable except by those who are knowingly lying or very ignorant about the subject. No modern astronomer could predict a lunar eclipse 800 years from now using the methodology they claim, the timekeeping system they use simply is not accurate enough to do that, with leap years and adding a day every several hundred years to make up for the error, how the hell could it, moron?
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I know the actual date by interpolation and by closely examining the pattern that has manifested itself over the past year or so.
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And we all know how well your interpolations work...

You can waterboard me and I won't tell you, you're not to know.
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Of course. Your ego can't handle another such solid factual blow.

But, then again, don't need any. You claimed the cleansing would occur on a solstice during the current solar max, and before January 2014. Not too hard to narrow down the possibilities there.
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Well, the day before, anyway. And you never gave a baseline on how often such sunspots appear...

But, again, I digress. Back to the subject at hand.
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No sire, the sunspot was perfectly geo effective as it ever became on 12/21/12 and a sunspot this close to the center of the suns disk is seen perhaps twice per solar maximum.
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If it is moving unpredictably, why are Mayan/traditional eclipse predictions still accurate?

Which is it, IDW/A.A? It can't be both.
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It can if the Mayans were better astronomers than modern astronomers, why not?
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If that is the case, then the supposed unpredicted movement of the Moon you were proposing was predicted by the Maya.

Is the movement of the Moon predictable or unpredictable? You've now claimed both. You're as bad as Quantum Mechanics.
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And we all know how well your interpolations work...


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Which explains why it is so important to those who employ you to pay you to stalk me and have for 12 years.
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It's hard to be such an insufferable dickhead as to get autobanned on GLP. Apparently you did it, though.
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There is only one thing you cannot do on GLP and that is establish credibility and tell the truth.
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So what, exactly, is keeping you from posting an image of the alleged anomaly you claim took place where the moon rose with a "perfectly horizontal terminator" last summer?
 Quoting: Menow 636186


It rose in partial lunar eclipse last night at 7:26 PM at my home last night and then gradually transitioned into a normal waning moon with a proper terminator angle by 815 pm. I have photographs taken every 30 seconds to post here if I am allowed again to imbed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Atrophysicist 1179023


Wtf are you talking about now? The terminator created during a partial lunar eclipse does does not look at all like the terminator created by lunar phases at near full moon. You're simply full of shit and tossing out layer after layer of nonsense to cover up the last bit of nonsense.
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And we all know how well your interpolations work...


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Which explains why it is so important to those who employ you to pay you to stalk me and have for 12 years.
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Usual Ad hominem noted. So predictable.
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If that is the case, then the supposed unpredicted movement of the Moon you were proposing was predicted by the Maya.
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That's what I'm saying, why is that so hard to believe given their perfect record?
Is the movement of the Moon predictable or unpredictable? You've now claimed both. You're as bad as Quantum Mechanics.
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It is not unpredictable if you know how the orbit has changed and why.
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If that is the case, then the supposed unpredicted movement of the Moon you were proposing was predicted by the Maya.
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That's what I'm saying, why is that so hard to believe given their perfect record?
Is the movement of the Moon predictable or unpredictable? You've now claimed both. You're as bad as Quantum Mechanics.
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It is not unpredictable if you know how the orbit has changed and why.
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If that's the case, then GOTO telescopes should have no trouble tracking the Moon, and yet you say they will fail to do this. Which is it?

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