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What you presented is not evidence, it is simply a half baked production by an incompetent troll.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1110832


Then prove that. Present something showing how the calculations don't work. Thus far, you've done everything you can to avoid doing so.
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Well considering he admitted to not even looking at the videos presented, I am not sure how he came to that conclusion.

It is another case of 'my way or the highway'. How people like the OP manage to get others to believe their nonesense is beyond me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34814542

I know exactly how they get people to believe it. My understanding comes from having watched Nancy Lieder's tricks over the years. All they have to do is appeal to people's belief in conspiracy. Then you portray all opposition to the supposed "truths" as being just part of a grand conspiracy. It works best if you spout something truly outrageous about a subject where the public is not well-informed. Then, when lots of people who are educated about things like astronomy say that it's stupidly wrong, you portray that response as a "shrill (or shill) attack" and build on that, never admitting to being wrong about anything, ever, unless it is to pretend that you are honest about "mistakes". Then you repeat and build on that over and over and over and over again.

Whether intentional or not, this is how they do it.
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What you presented is not evidence, it is simply a half baked production by an incompetent troll.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1110832


Then prove that. Present something showing how the calculations don't work. Thus far, you've done everything you can to avoid doing so.
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Well considering he admitted to not even looking at the videos presented, I am not sure how he came to that conclusion.

It is another case of 'my way or the highway'. How people like the OP manage to get others to believe their nonesense is beyond me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34814542

I know exactly how they get people to believe it. My understanding comes from having watched Nancy Lieder's tricks over the years. All they have to do is appeal to people's belief in conspiracy. Then you portray all opposition to the supposed "truths" as being just part of a grand conspiracy. It works best if you spout something truly outrageous about a subject where the public is not well-informed. Then, when lots of people who are educated about things like astronomy say that it's stupidly wrong, you portray that response as a "shrill (or shill) attack" and build on that, never admitting to being wrong about anything, ever, unless it is to pretend that you are honest about "mistakes". Then you repeat and build on that over and over and over and over again.

Whether intentional or not, this is how they do it.
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Yes I have seen that happen, I've been called a shill many times. I just can't understand the nature of some people, to want to believe in something so desperately, that they become the highest order of gullible.
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Then prove that. Present something showing how the calculations don't work. Thus far, you've done everything you can to avoid doing so.
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Well considering he admitted to not even looking at the videos presented, I am not sure how he came to that conclusion.

It is another case of 'my way or the highway'. How people like the OP manage to get others to believe their nonesense is beyond me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34814542

I know exactly how they get people to believe it. My understanding comes from having watched Nancy Lieder's tricks over the years. All they have to do is appeal to people's belief in conspiracy. Then you portray all opposition to the supposed "truths" as being just part of a grand conspiracy. It works best if you spout something truly outrageous about a subject where the public is not well-informed. Then, when lots of people who are educated about things like astronomy say that it's stupidly wrong, you portray that response as a "shrill (or shill) attack" and build on that, never admitting to being wrong about anything, ever, unless it is to pretend that you are honest about "mistakes". Then you repeat and build on that over and over and over and over again.

Whether intentional or not, this is how they do it.
 Quoting: Menow 636186


Yes I have seen that happen, I've been called a shill many times. I just can't understand the nature of some people, to want to believe in something so desperately, that they become the highest order of gullible.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26853356


Yes, and then they imply that simply because "so many" people are saying that something is wrong, that it must be right, simply because of the opposition to it. You can see it on this very thread, where AA says that if he was just a nut-job, no one would bother to say he is wrong. Fact is, he *IS* just a deluded nut-job, but a lot of people who can't understand the science involved or parse logical arguments think there is some sort of stalemate.
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Well, I noticed IDW/A.A posting on other more political threads.

Tell me, IDW/A.A, if the great cleansing is coming before January, as you espouse, why does any political subject matter? Civilization, along with 90% of us, are due to be wiped out -- so who cares who's running the show at that point?

Unless, of course, you *don't* believe what you espouse.

The burden of proof is not on the debunker to prove you're full of shit , not in science. The burden of proof is ALL ON YOU to PROVE your claims.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1270944


I will quote this back to you every time you fail to prove your claims from now on.

For example: the burden of proof is on you to PROVE the Moon is moving in any unusual or traditionally unpredicted ways, as YOU claim.

Prove it. A step by step experiment, or furnish the old texts that show eclipses happening differently than they are happening this year.

I shall continue not holding my breath.
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Tell me, IDW/A.A, if the great cleansing is coming before January, as you espouse, why does any political subject matter? Civilization, along with 90% of us, are due to be wiped out -- so who cares who's running the show at that point?

Unless, of course, you *don't* believe what you espouse.

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Of course he doesn't believe it. He's a sad little wanna-be, hurling his feces at the scientific community out of bitterness and jealousy.
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What happened to IDW? He seems nonexistent now... lmao
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Well, I noticed IDW/A.A posting on other more political threads.

Tell me, IDW/A.A, if the great cleansing is coming before January, as you espouse, why does any political subject matter? Civilization, along with 90% of us, are due to be wiped out -- so who cares who's running the show at that point?

Unless, of course, you *don't* believe what you espouse.

The burden of proof is not on the debunker to prove you're full of shit , not in science. The burden of proof is ALL ON YOU to PROVE your claims.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1270944


I will quote this back to you every time you fail to prove your claims from now on.

For example: the burden of proof is on you to PROVE the Moon is moving in any unusual or traditionally unpredicted ways, as YOU claim.

Prove it. A step by step experiment, or furnish the old texts that show eclipses happening differently than they are happening this year.

I shall continue not holding my breath.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444


But of course 'agent 74444 ;-)' don't hold your breath too long. Nothing evidencing the validity of his claims will eminate from his Highness. Just more obfuscation and retaliatory bloviating claiming all who think for themselves are government paid shills. But like I said before, for some odd reason I find AA's diatribes amusing, sometimes.

BS Smeller

(...and yes, I sense a strong odor of BS in this thread)
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Hmmm, it appears Anonymous Astrophysicist has run away in defeat. Not surprising - they usually do. Just like Nancy Lieder before him.

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I work (and think) for myself friend. Your paranoia deludes you. You really believe that the government is wasting money on diverting your "failed" theories. If so, then you are the megalomaniac you espouse to be.

As to you never lieing. Well bro, that's a LIE. No human on this planet has gone through life without telling at least one lie, innocent as it may be. Your failed predictions are LIES. Your false accusations against many who post here are LIES. Your numerous assertion of purported, yet purposely unsubstantiated facts are LIES. In fact AA, admit it, this entire damn thread is a fucking LIE.

But hey, its enterntaining, at times. You must be getting tired though, 'cause the energy and venom exhibited in posts of the past far exceed what you spew forth today. I hope your not ill, and I mean that sincerely.

Oh, have a nice day too.
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there is something very wrong about the way you post.
The words you use do not go together as if delivered from the same person.....

I see through you.....
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Hmmm, it appears Anonymous Astrophysicist has run away in defeat. Not surprising - they usually do. Just like Nancy Lieder before him.
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he beat you all a thousand times over......
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he beat you all a thousand times over......
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Yes, he did...at being WRONG. Sorry. If you think otherwise, then why don't YOU show us where he beat us. Prove to us everything he said is right. I bet you won't.

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Hmmm, it appears Anonymous Astrophysicist has run away in defeat. Not surprising - they usually do. Just like Nancy Lieder before him.
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he beat you all a thousand times over......
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Not only did he not "beat us," he was too much of a coward to even look at what I was presenting to him because it would have damaged his fragile belief system.
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I work (and think) for myself friend. Your paranoia deludes you. You really believe that the government is wasting money on diverting your "failed" theories. If so, then you are the megalomaniac you espouse to be.

As to you never lieing. Well bro, that's a LIE. No human on this planet has gone through life without telling at least one lie, innocent as it may be. Your failed predictions are LIES. Your false accusations against many who post here are LIES. Your numerous assertion of purported, yet purposely unsubstantiated facts are LIES. In fact AA, admit it, this entire damn thread is a fucking LIE.

But hey, its enterntaining, at times. You must be getting tired though, 'cause the energy and venom exhibited in posts of the past far exceed what you spew forth today. I hope your not ill, and I mean that sincerely.

Oh, have a nice day too.
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there is something very wrong about the way you post.
The words you use do not go together as if delivered from the same person.....

I see through you.....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35494711

...and what do you see? I am a single poster. I was merely responding to AA's claim (and implicit accusation against me) that he (or she) doesn't lie. But what may seem incongruous is that I try not to judge AA. He's entitled to his views. And just because I don't hold to AA's views does not mean I wish ill upon him. I have lurked this thread for a long time and my statement regarding AA's recent posts was my observation that he seems to have lost some of his previous vigor. Of course I could be wrong.
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Hmmm, 8 1/2 hours since the AC posted and he hasn't responded to my challenge. Color me surprised.
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Hmmm, 8 1/2 hours since the AC posted and he hasn't responded to my challenge. Color me surprised.
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look Bircuit Creaker / Biscuit Streaker / Haircut Beaker or whatever your name is:

most people who have been following this thread since its start, already know 'who is who'.......

so there can't be a challenge......

ps - how far is your desk from **Agent74444** ??

AA has never been defeated in a technical scientific discussion yet......
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AA has never been defeated in a technical scientific discussion yet......
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As previously pointed out ( [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] ), AA retreated from participating in a technical scientific discussion and refuses to look at actual technical scientific data offered which contradicts his claims, therefore he has admitted defeat by default.
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look Bircuit Creaker / Biscuit Streaker / Haircut Beaker or whatever your name is:

most people who have been following this thread since its start, already know 'who is who'.......

so there can't be a challenge......

ps - how far is your desk from **Agent74444** ??

AA has never been defeated in a technical scientific discussion yet......
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35494711


Anonymous Coward is a fitting name for you. At any rate - evasion duly noted. Since you refuse to show where Astrophysicist was correct or present anything challenging what "debunkers" have said, we'll consider that as an admission of defeat. Thanks for clearing that up.

BTW, how much does Astrophysicist pay you to come support him? Or are you really Astrophysicist posting through a proxy server? That's it isn't it?

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Hmmm, 8 1/2 hours since the AC posted and he hasn't responded to my challenge. Color me surprised.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


look Bircuit Creaker / Biscuit Streaker / Haircut Beaker or whatever your name is:

most people who have been following this thread since its start,
already know 'who is who'.......

so there can't be a challenge......

ps - how far is your desk from **Agent74444** ??

AA has never been defeated in a technical scientific discussion yet......
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35494711


Anyone who has followed this thread from the start will know that the OP is nothing more than a fantasist.
After reading through several of the pages at the beginning I have seen the OP state (from their bunker )that a massive solar flare will cause an ELE ( although it won't wipe out everyone ) and will happen on 21st December 2012 11.11 Eastern time.

Now, if you still believe the OP to be telling the truth after that then more fool you.

The silence of AA after refusing to look at data that was presented to them is very telling.

AA is a very good science fiction story teller.

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look Bircuit Creaker / Biscuit Streaker / Haircut Beaker or whatever your name is:

most people who have been following this thread since its start, already know 'who is who'.......

so there can't be a challenge......

ps - how far is your desk from **Agent74444** ??

AA has never been defeated in a technical scientific discussion yet......
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35494711


Anonymous Coward is a fitting name for you. At any rate - evasion duly noted. Since you refuse to show where Astrophysicist was correct or present anything challenging what "debunkers" have said, we'll consider that as an admission of defeat. Thanks for clearing that up.

BTW, how much does Astrophysicist pay you to come support him? Or are you really Astrophysicist posting through a proxy server? That's it isn't it?
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


AA has done this before and been called out on it. But of course there was no admission to that effect. I don't expect one this time either.
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Everything not going to be ok.

Th fact that this thread is being sequestered (if you'll forgive me for using the word in the proper context) and set upon by so many disinfo ops with no real people allowed to post is obvious. No dice guys, nothing you can use, but here some interesting videos and links or you to ponder:





(this is my discovery, made on this thread by interpreting data that was immediately taken down minutes after I posted on it)


(again, this discover was noted by myself over 8 years ago by interpreting data)

censored data and anomalies



Quit telling people everything is going to be ok. This is crime against humanity


(these deaths are direct result of the changes I have tried so hard to expose in this thread and there is a mass extinction event underway)

No hole will hide you from the creators wrath, you are specifically targeted for physical and spiritual death
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By the way, bird flu is really acute radiation sickness. The effects of acute radiation poisoning mimic the flu, it's a cover and I know it..

Take those vaccines, boys, they're good for you. That's why autism is 100 times higher in military children than non military, genetic damage done to the fathers by gulf war vaccinations. Birth defects are off the scale in military families because of depleted uranium.
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Th fact that this thread is being sequestered (if you'll forgive me for using the word in the proper context) and set upon by so many disinfo ops with no real people allowed to post is obvious.
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Aww, how cute. IDW is feeling sad that no one is coming to his defense on the thread, so it must be proof that "no real people are allowed to post." No, what it means is that you made a fool of yourself and then went into hiding for several days following your rage quit brought about by exposing the fact that you refused to even look at my video or calculations because they contradict your belief system. You also just inadvertantly admitted that the UK AC above was not a "real person" and in that case I'm actually inclined to agree; it appears that you just admitted it was your own sock puppet.

Just to prove once again how incredibly wrong you are about everything, I will pin your thread once again. Let's see how many people then make threads complaining about having trouble or not being able to post on your thread.
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Th fact that this thread is being sequestered (if you'll forgive me for using the word in the proper context) and set upon by so many disinfo ops with no real people allowed to post is obvious.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astro-physicist 1615833

Aww, how cute. IDW is feeling sad that no one is coming to his defense on the thread, so it must be proof that "no real people are allowed to post." No, what it means is that you made a fool of yourself and then went into hiding for several days following your rage quit brought about by exposing the fact that you refused to even look at my video or calculations because they contradict your belief system. You also just inadvertantly admitted that the UK AC above was not a "real person" and in that case I'm actually inclined to agree; it appears that you just admitted it was your own sock puppet.

Just to prove once again how incredibly wrong you are about everything, I will pin your thread once again. Let's see how many people then make threads complaining about having trouble or not being able to post on your thread.
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My op was banned asshole, so you could attack undeterred/ I have confirmed attempting to open this thread results in the server problem page on 12 separate computers using 5 different isp's in three different states.
Now fuck off
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Th fact that this thread is being sequestered (if you'll forgive me for using the word in the proper context) and set upon by so many disinfo ops with no real people allowed to post is obvious.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astro-physicist 1615833

Aww, how cute. IDW is feeling sad that no one is coming to his defense on the thread, so it must be proof that "no real people are allowed to post." No, what it means is that you made a fool of yourself and then went into hiding for several days following your rage quit brought about by exposing the fact that you refused to even look at my video or calculations because they contradict your belief system. You also just inadvertantly admitted that the UK AC above was not a "real person" and in that case I'm actually inclined to agree; it appears that you just admitted it was your own sock puppet.

Just to prove once again how incredibly wrong you are about everything, I will pin your thread once again. Let's see how many people then make threads complaining about having trouble or not being able to post on your thread.
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My op was banned asshole, so you could attack undeterred/ I have confirmed attempting to open this thread results in the server problem page on 12 separate computers using 5 different isp's in three different states.
Now fuck off
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confirmed thread works fine.
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I am a gutless asshole and everyone hates me, I wonder why?
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No hole will hide you from the creators wrath, you are specifically targeted for physical and spiritual death
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Th fact that this thread is being sequestered (if you'll forgive me for using the word in the proper context) and set upon by so many disinfo ops with no real people allowed to post is obvious.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astro-physicist 1615833

Aww, how cute. IDW is feeling sad that no one is coming to his defense on the thread, so it must be proof that "no real people are allowed to post." No, what it means is that you made a fool of yourself and then went into hiding for several days following your rage quit brought about by exposing the fact that you refused to even look at my video or calculations because they contradict your belief system. You also just inadvertantly admitted that the UK AC above was not a "real person" and in that case I'm actually inclined to agree; it appears that you just admitted it was your own sock puppet.

Just to prove once again how incredibly wrong you are about everything, I will pin your thread once again. Let's see how many people then make threads complaining about having trouble or not being able to post on your thread.
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My op was banned asshole, so you could attack undeterred/ I have confirmed attempting to open this thread results in the server problem page on 12 separate computers using 5 different isp's in three different states.
Now fuck off
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Been living under a rock have we? Everyone has been having trouble with the forum the last few days, it's been under attack, but there have also been long stretches of time where it has been up and running normally.
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Look at this photograph, it's the lasco c2 image. notice the particles:
[link to sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov]


For the first time in 11 years, this NOAA space weather website is not responding:
[link to www.n3kl.org]


According to what we a re seeing on the lasco c2 image, this data is falsified:
[link to www2.nict.go.jp]


The pressure should be much higher!



Normally, the position of the sun would be apparent on this graphic , usually with a low flux reading during a quiet period:
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]


Again, I am absolutely positive that solar data and space weather data is being withheld and falsified, and looking at the lasso c2 image it is quite apparent there is an unusual event occurring and an intense outburst of radiation, a very severe x ray flare from a sunspot that is rotating into position to become noneffective within 5-7 days.

This turn of events does not bode well and I am absolutely certain after observing theses data spreads fro 12 years that the information is being falsified.
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LMFAO buddy you are actually quoting an nict site? You do know Nict is no longer used rght?
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confirmed thread works fine.
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Yes for you, because you're a shill. No one on this website thinks everything's normal or going to be ok, but on this thread they do

Odd that, huh?
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Everything not going to be ok.

Th fact that this thread is being sequestered (if you'll forgive me for using the word in the proper context) and set upon by so many disinfo ops with no real people allowed to post is obvious. No dice guys, nothing you can use, but here some interesting videos and links or you to ponder:





(this is my discovery, made on this thread by interpreting data that was immediately taken down minutes after I posted on it)


(again, this discover was noted by myself over 8 years ago by interpreting data)

censored data and anomalies



Quit telling people everything is going to be ok. This is crime against humanity


(these deaths are direct result of the changes I have tried so hard to expose in this thread and there is a mass extinction event underway)

No hole will hide you from the creators wrath, you are specifically targeted for physical and spiritual death
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I am a gutless asshole and everyone hates me, I wonder why?
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No hole will hide you from the creators wrath, you are specifically targeted for physical and spiritual death
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You know this how? Is it because you have "targeted" me for "physical and spiritual death?"
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