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So the library system finally got my requested book, published July of 1987: the 50 Year Canon of Solar Eclipses 1986-2035.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444


For those interested:

The book is public domain and available as a free download:
(Online reading, PDF, EPUB, Kindle, Daisy, Full Text, DjVu)

Fifty year canon of solar eclipses: 1986 - 2035
[link to archive.org]

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Can you show where the information originated?


cruise

THOUGHT NOT

I bet I know, though.
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This guy is obviously a moron. I have a GOTO scope and use it couple times a week. My telescope's tracking is pretty much right on the dot.
 Quoting: #Geomagnetic_Storm#

Indeed he is. I can hardly recall a time where I have seen anyone else get so badly pwned on GLP by so many.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Isn't it a bit pretentious to claim three different individuals posting under proxies on a closed thread and making obvious liars out of themselves with what they think are witty comments is owning someone you are not only stupid, you're delusional.

Getting paid to lie is your own albatross hanging around your neck, not mine, my conscious is clear. I would imagine your life stinks and no one in it has any respect for you..
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The problem with your little theory here is that *I* am a guy who works in tech support who entertains himself by reading the rantings of the fringe element on conspiracy sites between calls.


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Hey there agent 74444, but your moniker is not so clever
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If that's the case, then GOTO telescopes should have no trouble tracking the Moon, and yet you say they will fail to do this. Which is it?
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If their software has been updated to account for the change they will and if hasn't they won't I think that's easy enough to understand. Most amateurs using their own telescopes who have not received these updates would simply assume they had made some error themselves and in my experience amateur astronomers for the most part do not use 'goto" software to locate the moon or track it, they just point the telescope at it where they see it and follow it manually. it doesn't race across the sky at breakneck speed..


 Quoting: Anonymous Atrophysicist 1176764


So the library system finally got my requested book, published July of 1987: the 50 Year Canon of Solar Eclipses 1986-2035.

Obviously, the book hasn't changed since it was published, unless darling elves rewrite charts in already existing books.

In it are all the Solar Eclipses from, you guessed it, 1987 to 2035, complete with the charts showing where on Earth each Eclipse will/has occurred.

So IDW/A.A: If the Moon were moving in any unpredictable ways as you claim it has, how can this book continue to be accurate regarding those eclipses? How can its predictions match the current predictions -- 25 years in advance?

I look forward to your strong silence demonstrating your acknowledgement of total defeat in this matter.
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The problem with your little theory here is that *I* am a guy who works in tech support who entertains himself by reading the rantings of the fringe element on conspiracy sites between calls.


 Quoting: CleverMoniker 33226516


Hey there agent 74444, but your moniker is not so clever
 Quoting: Anonymous astrophysicist 1331939


Alas, as usual, I will remind you that I only post under 74444. Sorry to be difficult, but there you go.
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If that's the case, then GOTO telescopes should have no trouble tracking the Moon, and yet you say they will fail to do this. Which is it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444


If their software has been updated to account for the change they will and if hasn't they won't I think that's easy enough to understand. Most amateurs using their own telescopes who have not received these updates would simply assume they had made some error themselves and in my experience amateur astronomers for the most part do not use 'goto" software to locate the moon or track it, they just point the telescope at it where they see it and follow it manually. it doesn't race across the sky at breakneck speed..


 Quoting: Anonymous Atrophysicist 1176764


So the library system finally got my requested book, published July of 1987: the 50 Year Canon of Solar Eclipses 1986-2035.

Obviously, the book hasn't changed since it was published, unless darling elves rewrite charts in already existing books.

In it are all the Solar Eclipses from, you guessed it, 1987 to 2035, complete with the charts showing where on Earth each Eclipse will/has occurred.

So IDW/A.A: If the Moon were moving in any unpredictable ways as you claim it has, how can this book continue to be accurate regarding those eclipses? How can its predictions match the current predictions -- 25 years in advance?

I look forward to your strong silence demonstrating your acknowledgement of total defeat in this matter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444


Reaction time, 2 minutes and 43 seconds.

...While you're down there....

cruise

They plagiarized the info from the Mayan astronomers you asshole. Most of what is actual scientific fact has been plagiarized and the originators never given credit.
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If that's the case, then GOTO telescopes should have no trouble tracking the Moon, and yet you say they will fail to do this. Which is it?
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If their software has been updated to account for the change they will and if hasn't they won't I think that's easy enough to understand. Most amateurs using their own telescopes who have not received these updates would simply assume they had made some error themselves and in my experience amateur astronomers for the most part do not use 'goto" software to locate the moon or track it, they just point the telescope at it where they see it and follow it manually. it doesn't race across the sky at breakneck speed..


 Quoting: Anonymous Atrophysicist 1176764


So the library system finally got my requested book, published July of 1987: the 50 Year Canon of Solar Eclipses 1986-2035.

Obviously, the book hasn't changed since it was published, unless darling elves rewrite charts in already existing books.

In it are all the Solar Eclipses from, you guessed it, 1987 to 2035, complete with the charts showing where on Earth each Eclipse will/has occurred.

So IDW/A.A: If the Moon were moving in any unpredictable ways as you claim it has, how can this book continue to be accurate regarding those eclipses? How can its predictions match the current predictions -- 25 years in advance?

I look forward to your strong silence demonstrating your acknowledgement of total defeat in this matter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444


Reaction time, 2 minutes and 43 seconds.

...While you're down there....

cruise

They plagiarized the info from the Mayan astronomers you asshole. Most of what is actual scientific fact has been plagiarized and the originators never given credit.
 Quoting: Anonymous astrophysicist 1331939


If that is so:

*Why* would telescopes fail to track the Moon, as you claimed?
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And, as an additional question: How did other cultures, whom you claim were not as astronomically advanced as the Maya, make similarly exact predictions (such as the transit of Venus) a century before the Mayan language was successfully translated?
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So the library system finally got my requested book, published July of 1987: the 50 Year Canon of Solar Eclipses 1986-2035.

Obviously, the book hasn't changed since it was published, unless darling elves rewrite charts in already existing books.

In it are all the Solar Eclipses from, you guessed it, 1987 to 2035, complete with the charts showing where on Earth each Eclipse will/has occurred.

So IDW/A.A: If the Moon were moving in any unpredictable ways as you claim it has, how can this book continue to be accurate regarding those eclipses? How can its predictions match the current predictions -- 25 years in advance?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444

They plagiarized the info from the Mayan astronomers you asshole. Most of what is actual scientific fact has been plagiarized and the originators never given credit.
 Quoting: Anonymous astrophysicist 1331939

Ad hominem noted

Since the eclipse data from the 1987 book are still correct,
and since you claim, the authors plagiarized the info from the Mayan astronomers,
please explain, how the Mayans knew, that the moon will be off nowadays?


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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

aseindia
Annular Solar Eclipse - January 15, 2010 - Rameshwaram, India
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You have an absolutely perfect record, you have never been right and have always opposed the truth.
Everyone on this forum knows that.

Your criticism is an endorsement.
 Quoting: Anonymous astrophysicist 1331939


Evasion noted. Nice to see that you admit you have nothing to support your claims (since you've provided nothing) and admit that your claims are without merit.

See? Was that so hard?
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Horseshit , you work for the government and are paid to attack anyone who is trying to expose the truth.
 Quoting: Anonymous astrophysicist 1331939

Prove it you ass. Where's your evidence? Present it. As I said before - failure to provide any evidence to support this claim of yours will be considered an admission that you have none and that said claim is without merit.

You have an IQ of around 95 and most of your remarks are pre-written generic comments. You post under a proxy.
 Quoting: Anonymous astrophysicist 1331939

Uh oh - you're getting testy. A sure sign you're losing the argument.

I think what is most hilarious about it all is that you are stupid enough to believe you are valued asset.
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LOL!! The irony of that statement. LOL!!!
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Isn't it a bit pretentious to claim three different individuals posting under proxies on a closed thread and making obvious liars out of themselves with what they think are witty comments is owning someone you are not only stupid, you're delusional.
 Quoting: Anonymous astrophysicist 1331939

Three individuals using a proxy? Where's your evidence of this? A close thread? Where's your evidence of this? Put up or shut up.

Getting paid to lie is your own albatross hanging around your neck, not mine, my conscious is clear. I would imagine your life stinks and no one in it has any respect for you..
 Quoting: Anonymous astrophysicist 1331939

Getting paid? Where's your evidence of this? As stated before - when you resort to such tactics its done so in desperation to deflect from the fact that you have nothing to provide that will support your claims. Everyone who enters this thread can clearly see you have refused to look at the evidence presented to you and you refuse to present evidence of your own. And they've called you on it. But go ahead - keep acting like a child. It's quite amusing.
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They plagiarized the info from the Mayan astronomers you asshole. Most of what is actual scientific fact has been plagiarized and the originators never given credit.
 Quoting: Anonymous astrophysicist 1331939


Where's your evidence of that? Even if what you say is true, it still doesn't address the fact that all the information in the book is correct, which it shouldn't be if the moon were moving about unpredictably.

Now, get up off the floor, dust yourself off and present some evidence before you get smacked down again. Somehow, I suspect you'll be finding yourself on the floor - again and again and again.

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If their software has been updated to account for the change they will and if hasn't they won't I think that's easy enough to understand. Most amateurs using their own telescopes who have not received these updates would simply assume they had made some error themselves and in my experience amateur astronomers for the most part do not use 'goto" software to locate the moon or track it, they just point the telescope at it where they see it and follow it manually. it doesn't race across the sky at breakneck speed..


 Quoting: Anonymous Atrophysicist 1176764


So the library system finally got my requested book, published July of 1987: the 50 Year Canon of Solar Eclipses 1986-2035.

Obviously, the book hasn't changed since it was published, unless darling elves rewrite charts in already existing books.

In it are all the Solar Eclipses from, you guessed it, 1987 to 2035, complete with the charts showing where on Earth each Eclipse will/has occurred.

So IDW/A.A: If the Moon were moving in any unpredictable ways as you claim it has, how can this book continue to be accurate regarding those eclipses? How can its predictions match the current predictions -- 25 years in advance?

I look forward to your strong silence demonstrating your acknowledgement of total defeat in this matter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444


Reaction time, 2 minutes and 43 seconds.

...While you're down there....

cruise

They plagiarized the info from the Mayan astronomers you asshole. Most of what is actual scientific fact has been plagiarized and the originators never given credit.
 Quoting: Anonymous astrophysicist 1331939


If that is so:

*Why* would telescopes fail to track the Moon, as you claimed?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444


And I see AA's reaction time is ...

He won't answer this, he will wait for a few more people to post then jump on them, completely ignoring this.
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It's funny how he claims this thread is closed to other people and yet I can access it as an AC from work with a completely different IP address, from my iPhone going through my cellular providers network or from any hotspot in my area.

Don't you just love how in AA's world free thought doesn't exist? Everyone MUST agree with his outlandish claims because he said they're right. If you don't it's because you're obviously paid to be here.
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Don't you just love how in AA's world free thought doesn't exist? Everyone MUST agree with his outlandish claims because he said they're right. If you don't it's because you're obviously paid to be here.
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it appears to be a popular ploy with those unable to substantiate their claims with actual evidence.
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The problem with your little theory here is that *I* am a guy who works in tech support who entertains himself by reading the rantings of the fringe element on conspiracy sites between calls.


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Hey there agent 74444, but your moniker is not so clever
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Laugh all you want, but at the end of the day you're the schizo retard who's going to grow old and die alone, unfulfilled, unsuccessful and unknown, who's only accomplishment in life will be alienating everyone who might have ever loved him.

In the end, this thread full of delusion is all you have.

And to think, all you had to do was take your meds. How utterly ironic that ultimately it is your overblown ego which has led you down the path of self destruction.
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See, among your problems, IDW/A.A, is that you don't even have any *internal* consistency.

So just to make sure it isn't lost in the commentary...

If that's the case, then GOTO telescopes should have no trouble tracking the Moon, and yet you say they will fail to do this. Which is it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444


If their software has been updated to account for the change they will and if hasn't they won't I think that's easy enough to understand. Most amateurs using their own telescopes who have not received these updates would simply assume they had made some error themselves and in my experience amateur astronomers for the most part do not use 'goto" software to locate the moon or track it, they just point the telescope at it where they see it and follow it manually. it doesn't race across the sky at breakneck speed..


 Quoting: Anonymous Atrophysicist 1176764


So the library system finally got my requested book, published July of 1987: the 50 Year Canon of Solar Eclipses 1986-2035.

Obviously, the book hasn't changed since it was published, unless darling elves rewrite charts in already existing books.

In it are all the Solar Eclipses from, you guessed it, 1987 to 2035, complete with the charts showing where on Earth each Eclipse will/has occurred.

So IDW/A.A: If the Moon were moving in any unpredictable ways as you claim it has, how can this book continue to be accurate regarding those eclipses? How can its predictions match the current predictions -- 25 years in advance?

I look forward to your strong silence demonstrating your acknowledgement of total defeat in this matter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444


Reaction time, 2 minutes and 43 seconds.

...While you're down there....

cruise

They plagiarized the info from the Mayan astronomers you asshole. Most of what is actual scientific fact has been plagiarized and the originators never given credit.
 Quoting: Anonymous astrophysicist 1331939


If that is so:

*Why* would telescopes fail to track the Moon, as you claimed?

And, as an additional question: How did other cultures, whom you claim were not as astronomically advanced as the Maya, make similarly exact predictions (such as the transit of Venus) a century before the Mayan language was successfully translated?
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If that is so:

*Why* would telescopes fail to track the Moon, as you claimed?

And, as an additional question: How did other cultures, whom you claim were not as astronomically advanced as the Maya, make similarly exact predictions (such as the transit of Venus) a century before the Mayan language was successfully translated?
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As I recall the last transit of Venus WAS NOT successfully predicted by lamestream science.

Oh, and BTW, couldn't you idiots make up just a few more user id's to make it look good?


Gee whiz

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If that is so:

*Why* would telescopes fail to track the Moon, as you claimed?

And, as an additional question: How did other cultures, whom you claim were not as astronomically advanced as the Maya, make similarly exact predictions (such as the transit of Venus) a century before the Mayan language was successfully translated?
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The first thing the conquistadors did was remove every single piece of Mayan literature and bring it back to the Vatican, where it is still kept. Mayans scribed were captured and tortured and forced to translate the language in the 1500's
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There has been a change here. now maybe there will be more open responses. I have a feeling the shills are about to be blown out of the water
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Still waiting for an answer:

Since the eclipse data from the 1987 book are still correct,
and since you claim, the authors plagiarized the info from the Mayan astronomers,
please explain, how the Mayans knew, that the moon will be off nowadays?


.
If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

aseindia
Annular Solar Eclipse - January 15, 2010 - Rameshwaram, India
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Still waiting for an answer:

Since the eclipse data from the 1987 book are still correct,
and since you claim, the authors plagiarized the info from the Mayan astronomers,
please explain, how the Mayans knew, that the moon will be off nowadays?


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Because they were far superior astronomers?

cruise
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AA-What is your view on Mini Ice Age , Magnetic sunspots not flaring on earth side and climate extremes?
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You probably forgot to factor in your extreme mental defectiveness while doing your "research" IDW...

Seriously...you're looking at "lost it, batshit insane" in the rear view mirror...you should get some professional mental help, yesterday.
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AA- can you debunk the thread which is pinned "Energy from space"
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Still waiting for an answer:

Since the eclipse data from the 1987 book are still correct,
and since you claim, the authors plagiarized the info from the Mayan astronomers,
please explain, how the Mayans knew, that the moon will be off nowadays?


.
 Quoting: Hydra


Because they were far superior astronomers?

cruise
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LOL
Let me make it more precise according to your statement, that the moon is moving unpredictable since some time:

Since the eclipse data from the 1987 book are still correct,
and since you claim, the authors plagiarized the info from the Mayan astronomers,
please explain, how the Mayans knew, that the moon will be unpredictable off nowadays?


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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

aseindia
Annular Solar Eclipse - January 15, 2010 - Rameshwaram, India
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Still waiting for an answer:

Since the eclipse data from the 1987 book are still correct,
and since you claim, the authors plagiarized the info from the Mayan astronomers,
please explain, how the Mayans knew, that the moon will be off nowadays?


.
 Quoting: Hydra


Because they were far superior astronomers?

cruise
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1189930


My goodness -- such cognitive dissonance, with YOURSELF. Now making up tortured Mayan astronomers. Thunderously funny.

You claimed the Moon was moving unpredictably, so that telescopes would not track and had to be adjusted and updated all the time.

Then you claimed Western science couldn't predict eclipses accurately more than a couple years in advance anyway.

Then you claimed the Maya had predicted the Moon's motions super accurately.

Then you are presented with books and data showing the Moon is moving predictably, and telescopes tracking accurately, which you ascribe to them getting data from the Maya.

So you are left with a classic contradiction.

You must be wrong about the unpredictable motion of the Moon in the first place, because it was predicted by the Maya and all that data has been in GOTOs since they were invented, so there is no reason for telescopes to fail to track the Moon.

What other possibility is there?

Checkmate.

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