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AA, So...can you point me to the sun disk where plasma cloud impingement is happening? Is the earth gonna be between the cloud and sun in Dec?
6500cpm means the magnetosphere and atmosphere are stopping a hell of a lot of it at the moment, and my shit works. I am in my hardened room but if the proton flux continues its rise Im sleeping in the bunker.6500cmp at an average of 75 MeV is not dangerous, Ive been through a hell of a lot worst
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The earth is going to be between the sun and the galactic center in precise alignment on 12/21/12. If you saw the CME's earlier today and this week,CME's much more powerful and intense than those will be pulled by the vortex of electromagnetic energy of the galactic center towards the earth. That why this is the 'big day'. But you have to understand, there will be gradually worsening conditions between now and then, it's not a singular event, it just that that day I can predict with almost 100% certainty that a massive CME or previously unknown and unseen intensity and size will envelope the earth and cause a catastrophic event. It is difficult to predict what will happen between now and then besides a gradual decay of the nagnetic field, large holes and void showing up in it, and eventually multiple poles like we have at the moment will be long lasting events, making nagnetic navigation impossible/
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And tell us what lies at the (true) galactic center AA.

A rapidly "spinning" super massive black hole that weighs like I don't know how many hundreds of thousands of masses of the sun I believe. Is it that the plain of rotation of the supermassive black hole aligns with the galaxy, and creates a relatively thin layer of proton plasma cloud, which channels other powerful radiation or electrical forces along its plain, which we are about to cross? Just guessing from what little I have read of the theories.

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From the n3kl link magnetic field appears to be bouncing back at least a little.
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Yup, got it, we're on the same page 100%.
So if the sun is travelling 'upwards' in its sine wave trajectory to the galactic plane.And we're(our solar system) about 60 degrees off the galactic plane. And the plasma cloud is concentrated at the GP centerline.
You're saying the Earth will be between the sun and galactic center in Dec, in a high density cloud area on the GP centerline. bad juju.

So since the sat's watching the sun are fixed want to take a guess where on the solar disk the sun's front(as in moving thru space to the GP centerline) is? Maybe someone's done it already.

btw, how you gonna record 'your' plasma arcs for posterity when the time comes? cool2


AA, So...can you point me to the sun disk where plasma cloud impingement is happening? Is the earth gonna be between the cloud and sun in Dec?
6500cpm means the magnetosphere and atmosphere are stopping a hell of a lot of it at the moment, and my shit works. I am in my hardened room but if the proton flux continues its rise Im sleeping in the bunker.6500cmp at an average of 75 MeV is not dangerous, Ive been through a hell of a lot worst
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The earth is going to be between the sun and the galactic center in precise alignment on 12/21/12. If you saw the CME's earlier today and this week,CME's much more powerful and intense than those will be pulled by the vortex of electromagnetic energy of the galactic center towards the earth. That why this is the 'big day'. But you have to understand, there will be gradually worsening conditions between now and then, it's not a singular event, it just that that day I can predict with almost 100% certainty that a massive CME or previously unknown and unseen intensity and size will envelope the earth and cause a catastrophic event. It is difficult to predict what will happen between now and then besides a gradual decay of the nagnetic field, large holes and void showing up in it, and eventually multiple poles like we have at the moment will be long lasting events, making nagnetic navigation impossible/
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In Chicago my GC is active too, at least 10X higher than even noontime ambient readings?
My geiger counter is reading 5 to 10 cpm higher than a usual under the night time sky at 10:30pm at 20 - 30 cpm. I am getting hit clusters indicating some high energy particle collisions.
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Ten times higher than usual, or ten counts per minute higher than usual? Because I estimate I am getting about 30% higher than usual at 19 degrees latitude, which is only 1.33 higher than usual. Significant, but probably not deadly at these levels.
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As I have repeatedly tried to point out, the magnetic field is not consistent.It is at approximately 20 nanotesla on the east coast right now, and I Guarantee they are getting fried right now and going to feel it tomorrow morning... The field strength (by interpolation) where you are is at around 50 nano tesla, I am very surprised you are not getting at least 5,000cpm. What have you got it set on and what kind of probe do you have??I'm getting 6500cpm right now.
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East coast here....you aren't just whistling dixie! Every bone and muscle in my body hurts. It feels like I have been beat to hell. I have a headache worse that I normally have during this type of activity. My cat is throwing up. Oh joy to those that get excited over this type of activity.

Also AA - this has not been updated for many hours...nice huh?

I have not been able to get the following post from Sickscent's thread with the Boeing guy out of my head for a long time now. Here is a snip from that:

The Interstellar cloud we are entering (as a solar system) changes a simple model CME discharge event into a more continuous process.

The CME will act as a trigger or switch.

The Intertellar (magnetic cloud) can support a continuous ion flow between "connected" bodies, this phenomena would be orders of magnitude beyond a simple CME discharge.


Holy crap! What an awesome thought!

Let me get this straight what you are proposing:

The magnetic flow (cloud) will make the 'ether' much more conductive, so energy will be flowing like crazy, instead of just merely on the normal currents it flows through now. So it makes the EMP effect, not only massive, but pretty much all consuming. And, due to the solar system being submerged in this magnetic could, it will make the EMPs somewhat continuous.


Thread: <<< UPDATED 04/01/2010 >>> "All I can say is, many of you are close!!!" ***Our Changing Solar System Environment

AA, are we beginning to experince this phenomena? Not saying it is CME triggered but something similar?
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can someone tell me what this is?

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WELL, let me rephrase, I know its the sun...
Whats wrong with the images?
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This is the most important thread on GLP. It needs to be super pinned!
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WELL, let me rephrase, I know its the sun...
Whats wrong with the images?
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Check out Nin's Solar thread mate, lots of good and descriptive info there. they will keep you well informed as to whats up!
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Well, I woke up and feel ok. Turn on GLP and find things to be rather "asleep".

If the government data is being altered, then they have changed strategy, because now it seems to be telling us that it is time to be concerned. Proton levels of all energies have continued their rise upwards.

Bring those tomato plants in if you haven't done so already.

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
[link to www.n3kl.org]

A short geiger reading outdoors in central mexico reads "normal" 15-25cpm, but the sun has not risen over my horizon yet for what that's worth.

Looks like a good day to stay indoors behind thick concrete walls and keep posted.

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I agree with you. I find what you presented intensely interesting.

Check out my thread I will create tomorrow. I will share what was shown to me in dreams the past two nights concerning this. The solar output is will magnify in the near future as we have never seen it before.

Good info. hf
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Can you provide a title, please?
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WELL, let me rephrase, I know its the sun...
Whats wrong with the images?
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Check out Nin's Solar thread mate, lots of good and descriptive info there. they will keep you well informed as to whats up!
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can you please explain to me what the 3 different colors on this graph means in lay-mans terms. I was watching it climb last night & it is still climbing today. But I don't know what they are & what they mean. Tks.peace

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WELL, let me rephrase, I know its the sun...
Whats wrong with the images?
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Check out Nin's Solar thread mate, lots of good and descriptive info there. they will keep you well informed as to whats up!
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can you please explain to me what the 3 different colors on this graph means in lay-mans terms. I was watching it climb last night & it is still climbing today. But I don't know what they are & what they mean. Tks.peace

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It says what they mean on the right margin of the graph.

Low (red), medium (blue), and high (green) energy protons, it appears to me. A proton is a subatomic particle, what is left of a hydrogen atom if the electron is stripped away, and therein the explanation of plasma clouds of protons, or in other words hydrogen gas with electrons striped way, to make it a plasma. I imagine that the energy level is related to its physical velocity.

I have a few questions AA.
The proton graphs we are looking at most are from the GOES satellites it appears, which are outside of the bulk of the magnetosphere, right? Are there other data sources which would indicate the locations on the earth surface or atmosphere (in relation to the sun and time of day), where the protons are impacting or affecting?

This question in regards to the origins of the protons, although undoubtedly interstellar proton clouds or ribbons are also going to influence the suns output and behavior.

Also, in these graphs which we have been using heavily,
[link to www.n3kl.org]
...the Magnetometer graph, is referring to earths magnetic field as measured from GOES, is that correct?

Because there are other data sources which refer to the suns magnetic field. I imagine our most immediate concern is earths magnetic field, because it is our primary shield from dangerous levels of radiation from outer space.

Other thing,
The GOES satellites are geosynchronous, which is to say they are fixed in relation to physical locations on earth, but that also means they are not fixed but whirling around in relation to the magnetosphere, the magnetopause, and the earth-sun relation, as opposed to the STEREO satellites which are heliocentric.

How does this geosynchronous positioning, factor into this GOES data, such as the Magnetometer readings?

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WELL, let me rephrase, I know its the sun...
Whats wrong with the images?
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OK, I'll bite. What is wrong with these images?
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Um... this is bad for the affected latitudes right? [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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I agree with you. I find what you presented intensely interesting.

Check out my thread I will create tomorrow. I will share what was shown to me in dreams the past two nights concerning this. The solar output is will magnify in the near future as we have never seen it before.

Good info. hf
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Can you provide a title, please?
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Thank you...& yes I did see the side bar with the 3 colors. but why is there 3 different measure with these colors. I assumed (incorrectely) that because the Red line is the fastest climbing that it must be the one to pay attention to. Maybe it involves the #'s on the left side of the graph???? I guess I need further explaination on this from whoever wishes to play teacher. Tks.
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I agree with you. I find what you presented intensely interesting.

Check out my thread I will create tomorrow. I will share what was shown to me in dreams the past two nights concerning this. The solar output is will magnify in the near future as we have never seen it before.

Good info. hf
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Can you provide a title, please?
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Thank you...& yes I did see the side bar with the 3 colors. but why is there 3 different measure with these colors. I assumed (incorrectely) that because the Red line is the fastest climbing that it must be the one to pay attention to. Maybe it involves the #'s on the left side of the graph???? I guess I need further explaination on this from whoever wishes to play teacher. Tks.
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Well, I may be wrong, but it appears that they, NOAA, have counter-intuitively labeled the low energy protons as red, and the high energy protons as blue.

So the low energy protons, the red line, started a rise a few days ago, and last night a rise of medium and high energy protons, blue and green, started, according to how I am interpreting that graph, and to how some people on other threads are interpreting those readings.
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WELL, let me rephrase, I know its the sun...
Whats wrong with the images?
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Check out Nin's Solar thread mate, lots of good and descriptive info there. they will keep you well informed as to whats up!
Peace
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can you please explain to me what the 3 different colors on this graph means in lay-mans terms. I was watching it climb last night & it is still climbing today. But I don't know what they are & what they mean. Tks.peace

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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iT IS PROTON FLUX DENSITY , the amount of protons contained in a cubic centimeter of space at any given instant in time. Of course the higher the energy, the more protons pass through a cubic centimeter of space per second.

think of the red line as the 'slow lane', the blue line as the 'center lane' and the green line as the 'fast lane', with the vertical axis showing how many cars are in every 100 feet of highway if that mental image will help.


. The differences in colors represent different energy levels, or to be precise how many electron volts the protons are and the the green line is the fastest moving and therefor the most powerful. It shows electrons in the over 100 million electron volt range. The blue line shows proton flux density in the over 50 million electron volt range and the red line shows proton flux densities (protons per cubic centimeter per second) in the above 10 million electron volt range. Basically, the different colors represent protons of a range of velocities, the green line doesn't have an upper limit which means there is no way to tell the upper limits of their energy from the chart , the blue line is between 50 million and 100 million electron volts and the red line is between 10 million and 50 million electron volts.

I hope this has been helpful.

I would like everyone to report on any physical symptoms they are feeling, we pretty much lost the magneto pause, its not showing any pressure at the moment which means the data is falsified or it has been breached. Lst night the magnetosphere lost all of it's protective abilities at 0 nenotesla at 2 in the morning here while the proton flux was still climbing. I actually entered my shelter at that time and stopped posting because my 4g connection was nonoperational.

What is moist concerning is the continuing rise in proton flux, there doesn't seem to be any tapering off.
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I agree with you. I find what you presented intensely interesting.

Check out my thread I will create tomorrow. I will share what was shown to me in dreams the past two nights concerning this. The solar output is will magnify in the near future as we have never seen it before.

Good info. hf
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Can you provide a title, please?
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Thank you...& yes I did see the side bar with the 3 colors. but why is there 3 different measure with these colors. I assumed (incorrectely) that because the Red line is the fastest climbing that it must be the one to pay attention to. Maybe it involves the #'s on the left side of the graph???? I guess I need further explaination on this from whoever wishes to play teacher. Tks.
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Well, I may be wrong, but it appears that they, NOAA, have counter-intuitively labeled the low energy protons as red, and the high energy protons as blue.

So the low energy protons, the red line, started a rise a few days ago, and last night a rise of medium and high energy protons, blue and green, started, according to how I am interpreting that graph, and to how some people on other threads are interpreting those readings.
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Dead on, Ive always wonderd why they didnt use re for >100MeV protons
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I agree with you. I find what you presented intensely interesting.

Check out my thread I will create tomorrow. I will share what was shown to me in dreams the past two nights concerning this. The solar output is will magnify in the near future as we have never seen it before.

Good info. hf
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Can you provide a title, please?
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Thank you...& yes I did see the side bar with the 3 colors. but why is there 3 different measure with these colors. I assumed (incorrectely) that because the Red line is the fastest climbing that it must be the one to pay attention to. Maybe it involves the #'s on the left side of the graph???? I guess I need further explaination on this from whoever wishes to play teacher. Tks.
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Well, I may be wrong, but it appears that they, NOAA, have counter-intuitively labeled the low energy protons as red, and the high energy protons as blue.

So the low energy protons, the red line, started a rise a few days ago, and last night a rise of medium and high energy protons, blue and green, started, according to how I am interpreting that graph, and to how some people on other threads are interpreting those readings.
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ehecatl, thank you for explaining. Yes, I would have labeled the Red line as being the High Energy Protons. Am I to assume then that the Green (high E.P.) are the most damaging to our grid, etc.??
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Thank you...& yes I did see the side bar with the 3 colors. but why is there 3 different measure with these colors. I assumed (incorrectely) that because the Red line is the fastest climbing that it must be the one to pay attention to. Maybe it involves the #'s on the left side of the graph???? I guess I need further explaination on this from whoever wishes to play teacher. Tks.
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Well, I may be wrong, but it appears that they, NOAA, have counter-intuitively labeled the low energy protons as red, and the high energy protons as blue.

So the low energy protons, the red line, started a rise a few days ago, and last night a rise of medium and high energy protons, blue and green, started, according to how I am interpreting that graph, and to how some people on other threads are interpreting those readings.
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ehecatl, thank you for explaining. Yes, I would have labeled the Red line as being the High Energy Protons. Am I to assume then that the Green (high E.P.) are the most damaging to our grid, etc.??
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I don't think that the protons affect the grid much, just us biological units and our DNA, if they get past our magnetic field.

The grid is going to take a big blow tomorrow starting at 10:00 GMT when 3 big electro-magnetic waves from solar activity pile up on top of each other and hit the earth heavy... they say. The electro-magnetic pulse tomorrow may weaken or rip away the electro-magnetic field, which in turn protects us from the protons, X-rays, etc, which are elevated for their individual reasons. So tomorrow may also be a risk for our DNA if we loose the magnetic field.

Of course it is possible that another solar flare could kick off at the moment when the electromagnetic wave hits, and heighten the physical risk, because X-rays only take minutes to arrive, not days.....

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In terms of physical symptoms I mostly have neck stiffness right now, not noticing too much other than that.
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here is a post of mine from another thread-

For what its worth, a local shaman who is respected throughout Mexico told us a few days ago that March 8th and several days after are very important dates at hand for humanity, and that we should wear light colors then indicating transformation then.

He knows nothing about the solar or space activity or geo-political activity, or any of the issues one reads about here. He bases this purely on Nahautl astrology. (Aztec/Maya) [link to www.temazcal.mx]

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I don't think that the protons affect the grid much, just us biological units and our DNA, if they get past our magnetic field.
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This is not exactly true, protons can fry the grid


The grid is going to take a big blow tomorrow starting at 10:00 GMT when 3 big electro-magnetic waves from solar activity pile up on top of each other and hit the earth heavy... they say. The electro-magnetic pulse tomorrow may weaken or rip away the electro-magnetic field, which in turn protects us from the protons, X-rays, etc, which are elevated for their individual reasons. So tomorrow may also be a risk for our DNA if we loose the magnetic field.
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The electromagnetic energy arrives 9 minutes after the event. Effects on the magnetosphere by proton emissions are generally a weakening effect.Protons cause elevated or exaggerate differences in potential, which have a tendency to overload power grids and fry transformers.


Of course it is possible that another solar flare could kick off at the moment when the electromagnetic wave hits, and heighten the physical risk, because X-rays only take minutes to arrive, not days.....
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Like i have repeatedly said, the one thing we can count on is for a gradual overall worsening of effects.
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This is not exactly true, protons can fry the grid

The electromagnetic energy arrives 9 minutes after the event. Effects on the magnetosphere by proton emissions are generally a weakening effect.Protons cause elevated or exaggerate differences in potential, which have a tendency to overload power grids and fry transformers.

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Oh, that's true, my bad. Its the CME ejection I was referring to hit tomorrow, but that is plasma, which will cause electromagnetic effects here. :) (sounds like we could get zapped!)

[link to www.youtube.com]

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Here's the CME projection link-

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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Re: WARNING: SOLAR DATA PAGE COMPLETELY CENSORED,DATA ON OTHER SOURCES BEING FABRICATED!
I have a few questions AA.
The proton graphs we are looking at most are from the GOES satellites it appears, which are outside of the bulk of the magnetosphere, right? Are there other data sources which would indicate the locations on the earth surface or atmosphere (in relation to the sun and time of day), where the protons are impacting or affecting?
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There were, but they have been censored or removed in the past few days. here is an example:

[link to ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov]
This question in regards to the origins of the protons, although undoubtedly interstellar proton clouds or ribbons are also going to influence the suns output and behavior.
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I believe the prions and electromagnetic flux we are observing are originating from the galactic plane and the galactic center, In fact I predicted this effect 8 years ago and it is fairly predictable. We have entered a vortex of matter and energy.

Also, in these graphs which we have been using heavily,
[link to www.n3kl.org]
...the Magnetometer graph, is referring to earths magnetic field as measured from GOES, is that correct?
 Quoting: ehecatl


Yes, the red line is the magnetic strength in nanotesla of the geomagnetic field on the east coast and the blue line off the coast of California.



Because there are other data sources which refer to the suns magnetic field. I imagine our most immediate concern is earths magnetic field, because it is our primary shield from dangerous levels of radiation from outer space.
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Actually, our very worst concern is the collapse of the heliosphere(the suns magnetic field) combined with the geomagnetic issues, which is what is allowing these high energy protons (plasma) to enter our solar system.

Other thing,
The GOES satellites are geosynchronous, which is to say they are fixed in relation to physical locations on earth,
 Quoting: ehecatl


correct

but that also means they are not fixed but whirling around in relation to the magnetosphere, the magnetopause, and the earth-sun relation, as opposed to the STEREO satellites which are heliocentric.
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Very true, and this probably accounts somewhat for the 24 hour period of oscillation, although it is hard to explain. I know Ive never been able to but amuse it has to do with an interaction between the geo magnetic field ans the suns magnetic field.
How does this geosynchronous positioning, factor into this GOES data, such as the Magnetometer readings?
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Magnetometer readings shouldn't be effected but obviously they are. As for proton and electron flux, there should be a drop associated with an eclipse of Sun the satellite by the earth, but this period is very short in duration since the satellite is 22.000 miles up
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I agree with you. I find what you presented intensely interesting.

Check out my thread I will create tomorrow. I will share what was shown to me in dreams the past two nights concerning this. The solar output is will magnify in the near future as we have never seen it before.

Good info. hf
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Can you provide a title, please?
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I actually never got around to making that particular thread, I am sorry.

But to give you an idea of what I saw, apart from other things in the dreams, was this:

SolarOutputDream

I edited a typical chart from SolarHam to display what was shown to me(Nevermind the blue, I only edited the red.). This is not to say that this is what the agencies will be reporting per se, but the real intensity of the events to come in regards to the sun.

Much of what I saw was basically a confirmation of a lot of things that AA has been saying, though I cannot be certain in regards to the timing of these events.

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