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Anonymous Coward User ID: 22290042 United Kingdom 09/28/2012 11:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Robert, we'll be sending a van around to pick you up. Quoting: ehecatl We may be needing you down in headquarters. ehecatl - Why are u coming again and again to this thread if you feel the info the op presented is wrong? I was thinking the same thing; I disagree totally with AA's attitude but the more I read this thread the more I wonder..take this for example; [link to www.ep.ph.bham.ac.uk] An article from Birmingham University website about cosmic rays...it started me doing some leg work in researching what he'd said. I also wonder why someone with such obvious knowledge of the subject is trying to spread disinfo which wouldn't be in his own interests and why such effort has been made to discredit. I can't say that I agree with the whole 21-12 2012 stuff but then again it's impossible to either prove or disprove. Taking the piss out of typos and generally dissing doesn't do anything except divert attention from the thread, however I haven't read AA's other threads so don't know the history or nature of the beast. |
Anonymous Astrophysicist User ID: 1443229 United States 09/28/2012 12:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The bigger issue is not that cosmic 'rays' do not originate from the Sun by definition, the bigger issue is that they are misrepresented as 'rays' in the first place. There is a singular reason why this has been done systematically throughout the academic world, and that is to prevent the realization that matter can and does exceed the speed of light, and that is what cosmic rays actually are , particles moving in excess of light speed.. The reason for this is obvious, it completely erases all quantum physics SR and GR by empirical observation, and we can't have that because that would mean 98% of noble physic prize winners in the last 80 years were frauds, as is the whole academic system billions in research grants stolen by charlatans, essentially, who are blocking real research from being done, and people like me from being heard systematically. Why do you think they are controlling and monitoring this thread so carefully? They want my insight and they want me to spill, but they just don't want anyone else to see the reality in what I am teaching. I noticed yesterday BTW that as cosmic rays went off the charts earlier in the week, the Sun is beginning to become more active and the baseline irradiance and especially x ray flux and ultra violet flux is on the rise. I would like to stated for the record that I might be wrong about a few details, everyone is no matter how knowledgeable or intelligent, no one is perfect, but the predictions i have made have been extremely accurate overall and we are experiencing a world wide extinction event. We do not know the extent of he degradation of the magnetosphere because real data is impossible to obtain, but a day out in the Sun with no protection or attenuation of radiation from some structure will make you sick, RIGHT NOW. |
Anonymous Astrophysicist User ID: 1443229 United States 09/28/2012 12:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.n3kl.org] As you can see from this series of charts, a very minor and insignificant solar flare coincided with rather large increase in proton flux in only the lower energy ranges. This is a result of re entering the proton 'cloud' which has been set in motion by the magnetic energy of the flare being released. |
Anonymous Astrophysicist User ID: 1443229 United States 09/28/2012 12:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I haven't read AA's other threads so don't know the history or nature of the beast. Quoting: Elemental I can sum up their basic strategy in discrediting me in a few sentences. Because I maintain that individuals of the jewish 'faith' have set themselves up as gatekeepers in almost all major university science departments heading academic research, mainly to rake in all the cash, they are able to squelch any dissent of their fallacious ideas.. I am called antisemitic because I point out that 98% of all true geniuses are not jewish, and that jews are highly over represented in all fields of science based on these statistics, especially where large amounts of money for research are involved.. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24569585 India 09/28/2012 12:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.n3kl.org] Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1443229 As you can see from this series of charts, a very minor and insignificant solar flare coincided with rather large increase in proton flux in only the lower energy ranges. This is a result of re entering the proton 'cloud' which has been set in motion by the magnetic energy of the flare being released. AA- We had a filament erruption without a flare and since Earths foot print was near the filament erruption spot we got the proton storm. |
Anonymous Astrophysicist User ID: 1443229 United States 09/28/2012 12:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.n3kl.org] Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1443229 As you can see from this series of charts, a very minor and insignificant solar flare coincided with rather large increase in proton flux in only the lower energy ranges. This is a result of re entering the proton 'cloud' which has been set in motion by the magnetic energy of the flare being released. Also there SHOULD be a reaction in KP index chart as well as the geomagnetic field, which is indicative of the fact that this data cannot be relied on and is in part being fabricated or censored. |
Anonymous Astrophysicist User ID: 1443229 United States 09/28/2012 12:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.n3kl.org] Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1443229 As you can see from this series of charts, a very minor and insignificant solar flare coincided with rather large increase in proton flux in only the lower energy ranges. This is a result of re entering the proton 'cloud' which has been set in motion by the magnetic energy of the flare being released. AA- We had a filament erruption without a flare and since Earths foot print was near the filament erruption spot we got the proton storm. I didn't catch that, can you source it? That WOULD explain the low velocity protons. |
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Anonymous Astrophysicist User ID: 1443229 United States 09/28/2012 12:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.n3kl.org] Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1443229 As you can see from this series of charts, a very minor and insignificant solar flare coincided with rather large increase in proton flux in only the lower energy ranges. This is a result of re entering the proton 'cloud' which has been set in motion by the magnetic energy of the flare being released. AA- We had a filament erruption without a flare and since Earths foot print was near the filament erruption spot we got the proton storm. Well, you're wrong about the flares, because we did have two minor x ray flares, unless filament eruptions are now releasing x rays at a higher rate then ever measured before. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24569585 India 09/28/2012 12:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.n3kl.org] Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1443229 As you can see from this series of charts, a very minor and insignificant solar flare coincided with rather large increase in proton flux in only the lower energy ranges. This is a result of re entering the proton 'cloud' which has been set in motion by the magnetic energy of the flare being released. AA- We had a filament erruption without a flare and since Earths foot print was near the filament erruption spot we got the proton storm. Well, you're wrong about the flares, because we did have two minor x ray flares, unless filament eruptions are now releasing x rays at a higher rate then ever measured before. for once I am not wrong. WoWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!. We did have flares but the filament erruption didnt have flares and we had a proton event because of the filamanet erruption |
Anonymous Astrophysicist User ID: 1443229 United States 09/28/2012 12:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so AA we have now less then 3 months to go. Do u think things will ramp up quickly? As of today we do have weather extremes but nothing to sit up and notice. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24569585 Yes, I do. This time of the year onward is always extremely active with geo-effective solar storms during solar maximums due to the relative positions of the galactic center , the Sun and the Earth |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24569585 India 09/28/2012 12:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so AA we have now less then 3 months to go. Do u think things will ramp up quickly? As of today we do have weather extremes but nothing to sit up and notice. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24569585 Yes, I do. This time of the year onward is always extremely active with geo-effective solar storms during solar maximums due to the relative positions of the galactic center , the Sun and the Earth but we have not reached solar max yet? |
Anonymous Astrophysicist User ID: 1443229 United States 09/28/2012 12:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.n3kl.org] Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1443229 As you can see from this series of charts, a very minor and insignificant solar flare coincided with rather large increase in proton flux in only the lower energy ranges. This is a result of re entering the proton 'cloud' which has been set in motion by the magnetic energy of the flare being released. AA- We had a filament erruption without a flare and since Earths foot print was near the filament erruption spot we got the proton storm. Well, you're wrong about the flares, because we did have two minor x ray flares, unless filament eruptions are now releasing x rays at a higher rate then ever measured before. for once I am not wrong. WoWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!. We did have flares but the filament erruption didnt have flares and we had a proton event because of the filamanet erruption It's possible, but more likely the proton event was the result of the CME associated with the first x ray flare on the chart. If I am right there will be another rise in proton flux shortly. |
Anonymous Astrophysicist User ID: 1443229 United States 09/28/2012 12:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so AA we have now less then 3 months to go. Do u think things will ramp up quickly? As of today we do have weather extremes but nothing to sit up and notice. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24569585 Yes, I do. This time of the year onward is always extremely active with geo-effective solar storms during solar maximums due to the relative positions of the galactic center , the Sun and the Earth but we have not reached solar max yet? Not precisely, the bitch of it is that solar max coincides almost precisely with the alignment of 12/21/12 |
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ehecatl User ID: 24533543 Mexico 09/28/2012 12:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | oh, the cme was supposed to hit at sundown. we canceled that. doom off. [link to iswa.ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov] |
Anonymous Astrophysicist User ID: 1443229 United States 09/28/2012 01:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | oh, the cme was supposed to hit at sundown. we canceled that. doom off. Quoting: ehecatl [link to iswa.ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov] I categorically and automatically discount any 'information' coming from NASA as garbage , unreliable and probably fabricated. Tell you buddies that pay you , that was really stupid how they faked that image of the crater on Mars, looks like something some kid faked on microsoft paint. Click on the video above and look at the one claiming NASA faked the images of Mars. It's so obvious it defies reason why they would try yo pull this kind of crap knowing it is going to be critically analyzed, |
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Anonymous Astrophysicist User ID: 1443229 United States 09/28/2012 01:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | oh, the cme was supposed to hit at sundown. we canceled that. doom off. Quoting: ehecatl [link to iswa.ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov] It did 'hit' at sundown , you frecking idiot: [link to www.n3kl.org] Why NASA faked the KP index and the geomagnetic field strength data is anyone's guess, but a proton arrival like this is always accompanied by preceding geomagnetic impulse. Of course we are seeing things never before observed and the data is very unreliable to almost useless, so it is hard to tell by the independent researcher what is actually going on |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22290042 United Kingdom 09/28/2012 03:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | oh, the cme was supposed to hit at sundown. we canceled that. doom off. Quoting: ehecatl [link to iswa.ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov] It did 'hit' at sundown , you frecking idiot: [link to www.n3kl.org] Why NASA faked the KP index and the geomagnetic field strength data is anyone's guess, but a proton arrival like this is always accompanied by preceding geomagnetic impulse. Of course we are seeing things never before observed and the data is very unreliable to almost useless, so it is hard to tell by the independent researcher what is actually going on Agreed, unprecedented happenings...and we've not seen suchlike since records began...however this doesn't mean that it hasn't happened before. AA I've read this thread & links, you've been dissed, had your very sanity questioned and yet still post. I can't quite understand your stooping to reciprocate the insults but clearly see your point. Therefore I whole-heartedly apologise. I should have not just *read* what you wrote but learnt for myself. Again, apologies. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22290042 United Kingdom 09/28/2012 04:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Robert, we'll be sending a van around to pick you up. Quoting: ehecatl We may be needing you down in headquarters. ehecatl - Why are u coming again and again to this thread if you feel the info the op presented is wrong? you sound like a person who is very sure of them self Why do you say that? What, in that sentence, gives you any inkling of self confidence on the posters behalf? |
ehecatl User ID: 24533543 Mexico 09/28/2012 04:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Robert, we'll be sending a van around to pick you up. Quoting: ehecatl We may be needing you down in headquarters. ehecatl - Why are u coming again and again to this thread if you feel the info the op presented is wrong? you sound like a person who is very sure of them self Why do you say that? What, in that sentence, gives you any inkling of self confidence on the posters behalf? aha ha, I don't know. Funny that. That's how intuition works. |
ehecatl User ID: 24533543 Mexico 09/28/2012 04:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24569585 ehecatl - Why are u coming again and again to this thread if you feel the info the op presented is wrong? you sound like a person who is very sure of them self Why do you say that? What, in that sentence, gives you any inkling of self confidence on the posters behalf? aha ha, I don't know. Funny that. That's how intuition works. Here the India poster is suggesting that ehecatl felt that the OP presented wrong information. I don't believe I have stated that ever like that. I would never be so decided. It is not in my character and I am careful about these things. His predictions of a time-table was not information, because AA did not substantiate it by anything except his claim to be a genius, so it is merely still and unsubstantiated prediction to me. The only thing similar that I have ever stated is that OP makes some claims, and has never presented anything substantial in the way of information to back it up. That is different than claiming that information is wrong, I never claimed that. In fact I find myself agreeing with AA quite a lot, except he is rarely ever 'talking' about the theme, which is Sun Activity. I hope you understand, y muchas gracias por su comprensión. Last Edited by ehecatl on 09/28/2012 05:12 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24509238 United Kingdom 09/28/2012 05:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why do you say that? What, in that sentence, gives you any inkling of self confidence on the posters behalf? aha ha, I don't know. Funny that. That's how intuition works. Here the India poster is suggesting that ehecatl felt that the OP presented wrong information. I don't believe I have stated that ever like that. I would never be so decided. It is not in my character and I am careful about these things. His predictions of a time-table was not information, because AA did not substantiate it by anything except his claim to be a genius, so it is merely still and unsubstantiated prediction to me. The only thing similar that I have ever stated is that OP makes some claims, and has never presented anything substantial in the way of information to back it up. That is different than claiming that information is wrong, I never claimed that. In fact I find myself agreeing with AA quite a lot, except he is rarely ever 'talking' about the theme, which is Sun Activity. I hope you understand, y muchas gracias por su comprensión. you really have nothing to say on this thread and yet you say it every day. |
Anonymous Astrophysicist User ID: 1173362 United States 09/28/2012 07:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Elemental Why do you say that? What, in that sentence, gives you any inkling of self confidence on the posters behalf? aha ha, I don't know. Funny that. That's how intuition works. Here the India poster is suggesting that ehecatl felt that the OP presented wrong information. I don't believe I have stated that ever like that. I would never be so decided. It is not in my character and I am careful about these things. His predictions of a time-table was not information, because AA did not substantiate it by anything except his claim to be a genius, so it is merely still and unsubstantiated prediction to me. The only thing similar that I have ever stated is that OP makes some claims, and has never presented anything substantial in the way of information to back it up. That is different than claiming that information is wrong, I never claimed that. In fact I find myself agreeing with AA quite a lot, except he is rarely ever 'talking' about the theme, which is Sun Activity. I hope you understand, y muchas gracias por su comprensión. you really have nothing to say on this thread and yet you say it every day. You noticed that too, huh? He is what I call a soft sell shill. He pretends to be undecided but stabs you in the back while you're not around with personal attacks that don't seem so aggressive on the surface but have the intentions of totally undermining your credibility and your integrity. |
ehecatl User ID: 24533543 Mexico 09/28/2012 07:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What I have had to say I've said several times. My personal observations. This year has been decidedly cooler and wetter for me. My geiger readings have not revealed any surprising anomalies. The local environment seems especially healthy and vibrant. When the sun comes out it feels very beautiful and nourishing to me. In general there is a beautiful crisp vitality in the air, and conditions are about the most beautiful I have experienced in my life. I read and believe that there have been droughts and heat-waves in other places. But I thought this thread was about solar doom. Frankly I have not seen any indications of that. That is not meant to stab anyone in the back, they must have their egos where they shouldn't be. Not my fault. That's all. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5842471 United Kingdom 09/29/2012 11:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What I have had to say I've said several times. My personal observations. Quoting: ehecatl This year has been decidedly cooler and wetter for me. My geiger readings have not revealed any surprising anomalies. The local environment seems especially healthy and vibrant. When the sun comes out it feels very beautiful and nourishing to me. In general there is a beautiful crisp vitality in the air, and conditions are about the most beautiful I have experienced in my life. I read and believe that there have been droughts and heat-waves in other places. But I thought this thread was about solar doom. Frankly I have not seen any indications of that. That is not meant to stab anyone in the back, they must have their egos where they shouldn't be. Not my fault. That's all. I agree on the points of weather and environment to some degree, though the purpose (that I believe) of this thread is to determine whether or not solar data is being withheld or falsified and if so why. There are many valid arguments that this is the case and understandably so if that information would cause baseless panic and anarchy. One day, inevitably,there will be solar doom although when is impossible to determine absolutely. Solar records are just beginning in the span of man's existence so each *major* happening is, of course, an unprecedented event. Unprecedented though only because we have so little knowledge of what has gone before. The earth has been through much in it's history, we have not been here to witness prior events leading to ice ages, mass extinction et al. We are witnessing weather changes ( the last few years seasons seem to have melded together, polar caps melting, jet stream sinking southward, earthquake swarms) and religion ( a means of moral and ethical control, after all if there are no consequences to our actions from a *higher* source morality would be defunct apart from our own personal feelings) has become a beating stick, a war between differing gods all of which offer hellfire and spiritual damnation if you're not on side. Who knows what the future holds? Not me, not you and not anyone with a fearful soul would dare predict without fear of mockery and derision. Those who do predict are called madmen and liars. I believe that the truth lies somewhere in the middle - data will always be withheld whilst there is any chance of misinterpretation and panic. Nibiru? Probably not. Solar doom, of course. The sun will, one day, emit radiation at a time when our magnetosphere is weak and unable to withstand the force. It will also, one day, run out of hydrogen and helium (I know little about this per se but am learning). This is fact. What is also fact is that we have to rely on those with more experience and knowledge on the subject to get anywhere near what is true. That is what I look for. Knowledge, insight and the veracity of spirit to dare to speak out. Rip this to shreds if it pleases you, I have no care on the matter, I simply seek truth and knowledge and don't believe that we are given that by any government agency (I use the word government in it's most loose term as we all know that it isn't government that truly mans the helm). |
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