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Anonymous astrophysicist User ID: 1304066 United States 02/24/2013 09:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | THIS is the answer |
Anonymous astrophysicist User ID: 1304066 United States 02/24/2013 09:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | and then you applaud a fellow shill who provides mathematical 'proof' it can happen. Quoting: Anonymous astrophysicist 1304066 You have yet to show where the calculations are wrong or part of a conspiracy. Fail boat, I like that. Keep rowing that fail boat IDW. :boatfail: When you are exposed, post a distracting photograph. Right out of the handbook. The jews use cartoons, I guess you aren't a jew. But you lick their nuts, might as well be one. |
Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 33360181 United States 02/24/2013 09:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | and then you applaud a fellow shill who provides mathematical 'proof' it can happen. Quoting: Anonymous astrophysicist 1304066 You have yet to show where the calculations are wrong or part of a conspiracy. Fail boat, I like that. Keep rowing that fail boat IDW. When you are exposed, post a distracting photograph. Right out of the handbook. The jews use cartoons, I guess you aren't a jew. But you lick their nuts, might as well be one. I'm not the one hanging from my own failboat. I'm still waiting for you to show where my calculations are wrong or a conspiracy. Chop chop! You better get to it, because others are clearly seeing how "exposed" you are right now! |
Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 33360181 United States 02/24/2013 10:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WE ARE SEEING A PARTIAL LUNAR ECLIPSE WHEN WE SEE THIS SMILIE FACE MOON RISE because the earth is coming between the sun and the moon as it rises! Quoting: Anonymous astrophysicist 1304066 THIS is the answer Words can't begin to express how ridiculous that is. Here's a really simply fact of how wrong you are; that's not what the shape of the earth's shadow would look like, which has a much more gradual curvature ( [link to i319.photobucket.com] ) and in such a situation there wouldn't be shadows in the craters outside the darkened portion (as seen above). Yet that is exactly what we see: [link to www.flickr.com] And do tell, how does this happen when the moon is not opposite from the sun in the sky? Last Edited by Astromut on 02/24/2013 10:18 PM |
Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 33360181 United States 02/24/2013 10:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | and then you applaud a fellow shill who provides mathematical 'proof' it can happen. Quoting: Anonymous astrophysicist 1304066 You have yet to show where the calculations are wrong or part of a conspiracy. Fail boat, I like that. Keep rowing that fail boat IDW. When you are exposed, post a distracting photograph. Right out of the handbook. The jews use cartoons, I guess you aren't a jew. But you lick their nuts, might as well be one. I'm not the one hanging from my own failboat. I'm still waiting for you to show where my calculations are wrong or a conspiracy. Chop chop! You better get to it, because others are clearly seeing how "exposed" you are right now! And by the way, just to remind you, you claimed I was too stupid to produce such calculations. Oh you'll see, and you won't be happy about it. but why not address this post..? Quoting: waterbugBecause it's irrelevant, precession is known and a normal effect of tidal forces. Then tell me how accurate you could be without consulting the information provided by JPL, USNO and NASA. Quoting: waterbugQuite accurate. More accurate than you can see by eye. And yes, I'm working on something related to the thread's subject. Then tell me how you could ever verify if fudged data were given. Quoting: waterbugBy comparing to my own astrometric measurements... Horseshit, you're a fucking moron and too stupid to do any such thing, blowhard. Well, you were wrong. So now that I did, it's time for you to put up or shut up. Where are those calculations wrong or a "conspiracy?" |
Circuit Breaker User ID: 30047168 United States 02/24/2013 10:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WOW! Got all the bases covered, huh? Quoting: Anonymous astrophysicist 1304066 I've seen the perfectly horizontal 'smilie face' moonrise myself literally dozens of times and in the summer as well as winter. It has been reported all over the world, there are dozens of threads about it on this website alone, AND THE SAME SHILLS ARE WORKING THE THREADS. UN FREAKING BELIEVABLE! No fucking shame! The terminator on the face of the almost full moon tonight is nearly perfectly vertical, which in of itself is not normal for late February. Here at 32 degrees N latitude we should be seeing an approximate 40 degree angle on the terminator this time of year What do you mean it isn't normal for late February? Where should it and the moon be exactly? A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos. |
Circuit Breaker User ID: 30047168 United States 02/24/2013 10:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When you are exposed, post a distracting photograph. Right out of the handbook. The jews use cartoons, I guess you aren't a jew. But you lick their nuts, might as well be one. Quoting: Anonymous astrophysicist 1304066 When did you expose him? You have yet to answer any of his questions or prove that any of his calculations are wrong. Instead, you claim he's a paid shill....and THAT is right out of the woo-woo playbook. Chapter 2 I believe. A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74444 United States 02/24/2013 10:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Actually when you get to thinking about it, it seems likely the most probable reason for it is that the moons orbit is no longer five degrees off the ecliptic, but right on it, probably forced into that orbit by forces in the glactic plane. This would explain the smilie face moonrise transforming gradually into what appears to be an almost normal moon as the night wears on, WE ARE SEEING A PARTIAL LUNAR ECLIPSE WHEN WE SEE THIS SMILIE FACE MOON RISE because the earth is coming between the sun and the moon as it rises! Quoting: Anonymous astrophysicist 1304066 THIS is the answer Oh, my. The self proclaimed Astrophysicist with the super-genius I.Q. **doesn't know how Moon phases work,** nor, apparently, how a lunar eclipse works, either. Priceless. The only possible explanation of the changes that have been observed is if the moon is no longer orbiting the barycenter of the Earth -moon dual planet system or it has changed it's inclination of orbit to the ecliptic and has been pulled into a substantially different orbit by some as of yet unexplained force that has changed significant. Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1304066 Were that the case, how can GOTO telescopes track it? Surely such a motion would be utterly unpredictable, and fly in the face of Newtonian Mechanics, which underlies the entire GOTO concept. No one who uses a telescope to view the moon uses a 'goto' program to do it, that would be asinine since it is clearly visible and much easier to simply point the telescope at it manually. Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1304066 Oh? Pray, how would the telescope track it for more than a few minutes, then, particularly at high magnifications? You can set up a GOTO and it will track the Moon so you don't have to readjust every few minutes, and will follow it all night (and even into the day, if you want). How is it doing this, particularly when you are, say, way zoomed in watching the terminator, or particular features ON the Moon? In short: How does the telescope KNOW? I have shown as have my adversaries mounds of evidence that software from telescopes is periodically updated. Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1304066 I have given you links and information and examples directly contradicting you. The information you referenced also said nothing about changing existing motions or standard assumptions, but merely about adding new objects to the database and bug fixes. Once again, Celestron hasn't offered a patch since 2007. You have also failed to address how old starguides, starwheels, pre-GOTO telescopes, and even sextants could still be tracking and working given a supposed unpredictable sky. Until you can address these observations which directly and provably contradict your claim, your idea remains mere fantasy. I have also shown with proof from a majpr observatory that major observatories allign their telescopes nightly by mapping the position of celestial objects so they can use their mechanized 'goto' systems to observe particular areas of space. Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1304066 Were there unpredictable motion of the Earth, **how would the telescope know how to compensate?** Even *if* they lined up their scopes every night, were they off by a *fraction* of a degree, astrophotography would be impossible, because the *assumptions* built into the telescope would be wrong. How can you not understand this, particularly claiming that you are a supposed astrophysicist? Small computer guided telescopes use exactly the same methodology.I was answered with nothing but pure unadulterated horse manure that conflicted with the information the disinfo ops themselves had presented, which is paradoxical to me. Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1304066 The only paradoxes that have been presented have been your own. How can guides like the 1966 Pictorial Astronomy still be correct if the Earth or Moon were moving in any unpredicted ways? Inability to even acknowledge these gigantic blunders of yours noted, IDW/A.A. My sides hurt again from laughing. Well, you had your chance. List updated. Have a nice day. |
BS Smeller User ID: 7127676 United States 02/25/2013 12:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow, gang team on AA/IDW. I almost feel sorry for AA. If AA truely believes his posts, well, I guess that's OK. Still, I must say, no proof has been offered, and there are too many failed predictions to give this thread credance. BKK ----------------------- "A God of the Gaps is assigned responsibility for what we do not yet understand." Carl Sagan |
Solar Guardian User ID: 35115271 Malaysia 02/25/2013 12:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't worry, AA, by the time we reach the end of March 2013, Astro mutt won't be posting on your thread any longer. |
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Menow User ID: 35131330 United States 02/25/2013 05:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've seen the perfectly horizontal 'smilie face' moonrise myself literally dozens of times and in the summer as well as winter. It has been reported all over the world, there are dozens of threads about it on this website alone, AND THE SAME SHILLS ARE WORKING THE THREADS. UN FREAKING BELIEVABLE! No fucking shame! Quoting: Anonymous astrophysicist 1304066 But not one image to prove it actually happened. |
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Anonymous Atrophysicist User ID: 1391715 United States 02/25/2013 05:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It would seem I have found evidence that the Gregorian calender was intentionally manipulated and a year simply left out in 1752. Why this was done is a mystery to me but the most obvious reason seems to be so w would not know what year it actually was. It is evidence that a conspiracy to do so could cover up such a thing as the actual year, and my guess is they did the same thing with the Mayan calender, promoting falsely an end date |
Anonymous Atrophysicist User ID: 1391715 United States 02/25/2013 05:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here at 32 degrees N latitude we should be seeing an approximate 40 degree angle on the terminator this time of year Quoting: Anonymous astrophysicist 1304066 Are you not aware that the orientation of the moon compared to your horizon changes on a constant basis? Good lord, what a stupidshill shitstorm |
Anonymous Atrophysicist User ID: 1391715 United States 02/25/2013 05:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't worry, AA, by the time we reach the end of March 2013, Astro mutt won't be posting on your thread any longer. Quoting: Solar Guardian How much are you willing to bet on that? I refuse as I said before to make specific predictions or give an actual 'end date' and I outlined my reasons. Suffice it to say by the time a year is up you will be feeding the maggots. The people who pay you think less of you than I do, and you have made so many enemies when control is lost I am sure someone will look you up. |
Menow User ID: 636186 United States 02/25/2013 05:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here at 32 degrees N latitude we should be seeing an approximate 40 degree angle on the terminator this time of year Quoting: Anonymous astrophysicist 1304066 Are you not aware that the orientation of the moon compared to your horizon changes on a constant basis? Good lord, what a stupidshill shitstorm Yes, you have been putting out a shitstorm, but I am attempting to see past that and get something concrete and intelligible out of you. You talk about an "angle on the terminator this time of year" as if the moon's orientation in the sky doesn't change from one hour to the next. |
Menow User ID: 636186 United States 02/25/2013 05:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've seen the perfectly horizontal 'smilie face' moonrise myself literally dozens of times and in the summer as well as winter. It has been reported all over the world, there are dozens of threads about it on this website alone, AND THE SAME SHILLS ARE WORKING THE THREADS. UN FREAKING BELIEVABLE! No fucking shame! Quoting: Anonymous astrophysicist 1304066 But not one image to prove it actually happened. NOTE: No response and no image showing the alleged "perfectly horizontal 'smilie face' moonrise". |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 35155006 United Kingdom 02/25/2013 05:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here at 32 degrees N latitude we should be seeing an approximate 40 degree angle on the terminator this time of year Quoting: Anonymous astrophysicist 1304066 Are you not aware that the orientation of the moon compared to your horizon changes on a constant basis? Good lord, what a stupidshill shitstorm yep.....but you beat them every time AA......your logic is undeniable..... Even when they tag team you, they fail...... |
Anonymous Atrophysicist User ID: 1391715 United States 02/25/2013 06:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here at 32 degrees N latitude we should be seeing an approximate 40 degree angle on the terminator this time of year Quoting: Anonymous astrophysicist 1304066 Are you not aware that the orientation of the moon compared to your horizon changes on a constant basis? Good lord, what a stupidshill shitstorm yep.....but you beat them every time AA......your logic is undeniable..... Even when they tag team you, they fail...... Im case you didn't notice, they beat themselves to death with their own stupidity. One was posting 'calculations' claiming a horizontal moonrise was a normal occurrence and another is denying it every happened challenging me to post picts of it, i really don;t know where they get these guys but I have no need to defeat them, they do it all by themselves. If I posted a pict I took last night they would claim it was an eclipse from another date with a false time stamp. You can't beat moron at it's own game.. Thats why I let them do themselves, they do a solid job |
Menow User ID: 636186 United States 02/25/2013 06:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here at 32 degrees N latitude we should be seeing an approximate 40 degree angle on the terminator this time of year Quoting: Anonymous astrophysicist 1304066 Are you not aware that the orientation of the moon compared to your horizon changes on a constant basis? Good lord, what a stupidshill shitstorm Yes, you have been putting out a shitstorm, but I am attempting to see past that and get something concrete and intelligible out of you. You talk about an "angle on the terminator this time of year" as if the moon's orientation in the sky doesn't change from one hour to the next. PS: Or from one location on Earth to another. What you are saying seems to neglect to take into consideration several important factors. No wonder you think something is "wrong" with the orientation of the moon in the sky. How about taking an astronomy class sometime? |
Anonymous Atrophysicist User ID: 1391715 United States 02/25/2013 06:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You talk about an "angle on the terminator this time of year" as if the moon's orientation in the sky doesn't change from one hour to the next. Quoting: Menow 636186 At moonrise a very precise angle of the terminator should be easy to calculate at any given location and date. THIS IS IS PRESENTLY NOT THE CASE. As a person who has spent my whole 52 years observing nature, I know the patterns pretty well |
Menow User ID: 636186 United States 02/25/2013 06:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Menow 636186 Are you not aware that the orientation of the moon compared to your horizon changes on a constant basis? Good lord, what a stupidshill shitstorm yep.....but you beat them every time AA......your logic is undeniable..... Even when they tag team you, they fail...... Im case you didn't notice, they beat themselves to death with their own stupidity. One was posting 'calculations' claiming a horizontal moonrise was a normal occurrence and another is denying it every happened challenging me to post picts of it, i really don;t know where they get these guys but I have no need to defeat them, they do it all by themselves. If I posted a pict I took last night they would claim it was an eclipse from another date with a false time stamp. You can't beat moron at it's own game.. Thats why I let them do themselves, they do a solid job And yet given the choice of providing a counter argument to either one, you fail to come up with anything other than rambling obfuscation. By the way, I didn't "deny it happened" at all. I simply challenged you to provide evidence showing what you claim took place. Funny how you can't do that- hilarious, in fact, since you want people to "explain" something you can't even show a picture of. |
Menow User ID: 636186 United States 02/25/2013 06:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You talk about an "angle on the terminator this time of year" as if the moon's orientation in the sky doesn't change from one hour to the next. Quoting: Menow 636186 At moonrise a very precise angle of the terminator should be easy to calculate at any given location and date. OK, fine. What calculations have you done showing what the precise angle of the terminator SHOULD BE, as opposed to what we are seeing? THIS IS IS PRESENTLY NOT THE CASE. As a person who has spent my whole 52 years observing nature, I know the patterns pretty well Quoting: Anonymous Atrophysicist 1391715 Uh... no... you said "easy to calculate". Let's go with that, rather than your memory of the patterns. Calculate away. You have the floor. |
Menow User ID: 636186 United States 02/25/2013 06:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You talk about an "angle on the terminator this time of year" as if the moon's orientation in the sky doesn't change from one hour to the next. Quoting: Menow 636186 At moonrise a very precise angle of the terminator should be easy to calculate at any given location and date. THIS IS IS PRESENTLY NOT THE CASE. As a person who has spent my whole 52 years observing nature, I know the patterns pretty well By the way... what is wrong with the calculations already presented, here, just a page or so back? |
Anonymous Atrophysicist User ID: 1391715 United States 02/25/2013 06:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And yet given the choice of providing a counter argument to either one, you fail to come up with anything.... Quoting: Menow 636186 Arguing with stupid idiot is the folly of fools, you cannot win. By the way, I didn't "deny it happened" at all. Quoting: Minnow dickYou haven't said anything. It is amazing how shills can post pages of posts and never say a single thing you can pin them down with. If you aren't denying it, what is your point? I simply challenged you to provide evidence showing what you claim took place. Funny how you can't do that- Quoting: Minnow dickActually I can, as I said there are literally hundreds of people and perhaps two dozen threads on this subject on this forum alone.I also provided a link to website earlier that clearly showed images that illustrate the effect, apparently you "missed" them? |
Anonymous Atrophysicist User ID: 1391715 United States 02/25/2013 06:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You talk about an "angle on the terminator this time of year" as if the moon's orientation in the sky doesn't change from one hour to the next. Quoting: Menow 636186 At moonrise a very precise angle of the terminator should be easy to calculate at any given location and date. THIS IS IS PRESENTLY NOT THE CASE. As a person who has spent my whole 52 years observing nature, I know the patterns pretty well By the way... what is wrong with the calculations already presented, here, just a page or so back? It is impossible to get a horizontal terminator at moonrise any time of year south of the 60the latitude unless it is a lunar eclipse. It's basic math. 23 degrees of "tilt is the maximum possible deviation from vertical due to the tilt of the axis of the earth and the declination of the moons orbit from the ecliptic of 5 derees added to the latitude gives us the maximum angle from vertical the terminator can portend at moonrise. |
Menow User ID: 636186 United States 02/25/2013 06:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And yet given the choice of providing a counter argument to either one, you fail to come up with anything.... Quoting: Menow 636186 Arguing with stupid idiot is the folly of fools, you cannot win. By the way, I didn't "deny it happened" at all. Quoting: Minnow dickYou haven't said anything. It is amazing how shills can post pages of posts and never say a single thing you can pin them down with. If you aren't denying it, what is your point? I asked you to show evidence proving that the "anomaly" you want someone to explain actually took place. That's my simple and obvious point. What is there to "explain" if you don't show wtf you are even talking about? I simply challenged you to provide evidence showing what you claim took place. Funny how you can't do that- Quoting: Minnow dickActually I can, as I said there are literally hundreds of people and perhaps two dozen threads on this subject on this forum alone. I also provided a link to website earlier that clearly showed images that illustrate the effect, apparently you "missed" them? Yes, apparently I did miss that link. Kindly provide the link again showing a "perfectly horizontal terminator on a rising moon". |
Menow User ID: 636186 United States 02/25/2013 06:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You talk about an "angle on the terminator this time of year" as if the moon's orientation in the sky doesn't change from one hour to the next. Quoting: Menow 636186 At moonrise a very precise angle of the terminator should be easy to calculate at any given location and date. THIS IS IS PRESENTLY NOT THE CASE. As a person who has spent my whole 52 years observing nature, I know the patterns pretty well By the way... what is wrong with the calculations already presented, here, just a page or so back? It is impossible to get a horizontal terminator at moonrise any time of year south of the 60the latitude unless it is a lunar eclipse. It's basic math. 23 degrees of "tilt is the maximum possible deviation from vertical due to the tilt of the axis of the earth and the declination of the moons orbit from the ecliptic of 5 derees added to the latitude gives us the maximum angle from vertical the terminator can portend at moonrise. That is not responsive to my question. REPEAT: By the way... what is wrong with the calculations already presented, here, just a page or so back? |
Menow User ID: 636186 United States 02/25/2013 06:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You talk about an "angle on the terminator this time of year" as if the moon's orientation in the sky doesn't change from one hour to the next. Quoting: Menow 636186 At moonrise a very precise angle of the terminator should be easy to calculate at any given location and date. THIS IS IS PRESENTLY NOT THE CASE. As a person who has spent my whole 52 years observing nature, I know the patterns pretty well By the way... what is wrong with the calculations already presented, here, just a page or so back? It is impossible to get a horizontal terminator at moonrise any time of year south of the 60the latitude unless it is a lunar eclipse. It's basic math. 23 degrees of "tilt is the maximum possible deviation from vertical due to the tilt of the axis of the earth and the declination of the moons orbit from the ecliptic of 5 derees added to the latitude gives us the maximum angle from vertical the terminator can portend at moonrise. So, why don't you show that this allegedly "impossible" event actually took place? You have now given three different "maximum tilt" figures: 42 degrees, 22 degrees and 23 degrees. Which is it? |