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That's your best excuse for not providing photo evidence showing what you claim has happened "dozens of times"?

False. Basic math indeed:

Given that the apparent equatorial coordinates of the center point of the moon for 1/31/1971 at 2:45 UT were RA: 0h 19m 56.15s Dec: 6d 6' 0.83" (precessed to that date) and given that the moon is approximately half a degree wide in the sky, what were the approximate equatorial coordinates of the northern-most point of the moon on the equatorial grid at that time? Now, that was the easy part. The more challenging question is this, but if you're really better than I am this should not pose a problem for you; what is the apparent azimuth that corresponds to the above coordinates for the center point AND the northernmost point at the above time for the location 28.6084N 80.6043W? What is the difference in those two azimuth angles? At this point you should be starting to see with some degree of horror just how incredibly wrong you are. But to find the exact angle of the moon's terminator relative to the horizon you need to do lots more. For one thing, you need to calculate the position-angle of the moon's bright limb, but for now let's see how you get along with the answers to the above questions...

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There is absolutely no complex calculations or need to over complicate this issue. True genius explains in the simplest terms , not complicates to appear intelligent..True genius has no need to pretend.
I showed you precisely in very simple terms why the observations that have been seen all around the world are not possible at the latitudes they are occurring unless the moons orbit has changed. BY using terms like azimuth and "position-angle" of the moons limb, you prove to everyone you are not a genius nor even above average intelligence, but a copy paste parrot.

It has not happened dozens of times, it is occurring on regular basis. It will happen again tonight.

The explanation I set forth is the only possible explanation since the moon is still rising in the East and setting in the west. If the moons orbit of the Earth were to become aligned with the ecliptic, lunar eclipses at moonrise would be very common, and they are, and that is why as the night wears on the moon returns to normal.

By the way, how is that GLP observatory coming, genius astronomer? I heard you fucked up them telescopes so bad the manufacturers refused to honor the warranties, and yes I have my sources.

LOL, he can't do it. I'll start you off with the first precursor question; the moon's northernmost point on the equatorial grid would approximately have the coordinates RA: 0h 19m 56.15s Dec: 6d 36' 0.83". It's a simple question, what are the azimuth angles, what is the difference in those angles? Answer the question.

No, what it means is I am familiar with the real terminology involved in doing the real calculations because I've actually done them. You are incapable of even answering the simple questions above. I haven't even begun to get complicated with you, you clearly couldn't handle it. The real calculations show that it is completely normal and my simple example above illustrates why.

I did not fuck anything up. I aligned them properly, twice. They are currently working on the software, that is not my department. Post your "sources." You won't and can't because you're a pathetic liar who is lashing out now that he's been exposed.

Then perhaps you can explain why I have no problem setting up a telescope and having it actually work as it is supposed to and you can't do it?

HMMM HMMM. Why would you have need you allign them twice if you got it right the first time, and both times were properly done and they still don't work?

You are a fucking idiot.

Fuck off my thread and start your own, you're stinking it up

Yes, I can.
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
More pictures I took from the GLP observatory:

Again, it works, it has been used by the members here, what they are currently working on with it has nothing to do with me. You have now been exposed not only as someone who can't do the simple calculations outlined above, but flat out lies when cornered.

The Meade MAX Mount was having firmware and mechanical problems when I arrived. We aligned it, but it had to be shipped back to the factory for an overhaul. The first versions of that scope went through a quiet recall handled with everyone who purchased one very early on, but that one slipped through the cracks as it was sitting in a dealer's warehouse. It was aligned properly both times, however.

Awww, look how threatened poor widdle IDW feels. How cute!

I must admit I take a somewhat sadistic pleasure in torturing .gov shills.

I guess in that respect they have succeeded in reducing me to tier level of spiritual development at times. I suppose that is the intent. I shall endeavor not to let that happen again.

Notice how IDW is avoiding these calculations like the plague. There is a reason for that, a reason illuminated by my spreadsheet presented above.

Prove those photos came from the GLP telescope. I happen to know it has NEVER worked

You are such a liar! The proof is right there!
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
People all saw the scope in action. The videos from the live webcasts are all still right here:
[link to www.justin.tv]

Come on IDW, stop avoiding it and answer the question.

I'm not Trained poodle, i don't jump through hoops for an idiot> I showed the only proof necessary To prove you a pretender and an idiot and that i was right about the moon and YOU, and that is why I had to reset my ip to post again

For someone that keeps asking for photographic dated proof where is yours? Where are the pictures?...................yup thought so no where to be found.**adds Anonymous Atrophysicist to the lying attention seeking imbecile list**

If you have no problem setting up and using the scope, then you have already proved the Moon is moving as predicted. If your telescope can track it, it is moving in no unpredictable way at all. QED.

Thanks for proving Astro's case (more than he already had!).

You are either a real total fucking idiot or you know damn well what you are doing, that is, starting arguments by calling others shills to keep from posting proof.

The GLP telescope controls have been posted on here AND used by GLP posters.


You obviously don't know a damn thing on Astronomy, I can tell that and I've only read several posts of yours on here.

Astrophysicist my arse !

It has worked for a while idiot... I was watching people using it here.

You won't answer the question because you can't. If you did you would see that the difference in azimuth was nearly as much as the total added to the declination. Meaning the moon was nearly horizontal at that point. Now let's move on to figure out the exact angle of the moon relative to the horizon. What was the position-angle of the moon's bright limb at that time? Hint: you'll need to figure out where the sun was at the same time.

Sorry? What will happen tonight? You have been claiming that the moon has risen with a "perfectly horizontal terminator". You are claiming that will happen again tonight? OK- then it should be no problem for you to take an image showing that, right?



Sorry? Explanation for what? I'm still waiting for you to show evidence for the alleged event you want explained.

If the Moon were moving in any unpredictable ways, how can long predicted lunar eclipses continue to occur as predicted?

The *number* of things IDW/A.A is failing to understand here is quite staggering.

Oh boy, another prediction *with specifics* that IDW/A.A can be wrong about!

I don't recall claiming a properly set up telescope will track the moon properly, it won't. Two years ago it would, almost.

Almost no normal amateur astronomer has a permanent fixed mount for his telescope, meaning an alignment has to be done by a process known as mapping with each use. I went thorough this process every single night I set up my own telescope while I was involved in the hobby less than 12 years ago.

Even telescopes fixed in solid bedrock need to be mapped nightly to obtain accurate auto location. This is because being a one hundred thousandth of a degree off will result in total failure, and the timekeeping system in use is not accurate enough to obtain accuracy to this degree, as has already been shown to you through professional references. Without nightly mapping the telescope will locate the Celestia object through the spotter scope then the main telescope must be fine adjusted. THIS IS WHY ALL MAJOR OBSERVATORIES WITH COMPETENT PEOPLE AT THE COM DO A NIGHTLY MAPPING RUN, WHICH TAKES UP TO AN HOUR DEPENDING ON HOW FAST THE TELESCOPE IS.

The computer can then track or find celestial obejcts after several objects are mapped. This does not in any wa indicate they are in the 'proper' places. noly that thye have not moved realtive to each other or in the case of the planets in an unexpected trajectory

You must not have been paying very close attention there have been some very interesting 'surmises' lately concerning predicted eclipses. You're a dullard. The change has occurred very recently and eclipses that have occurred since the change have not gone off as predicted. This too is on several threads on this and many other websites. Remember, this has only been observed in the past 5 months. Look into the eclipses that have occurred in these months and you willsee some intersting observations

LMFAO! I don't know what's funnier, listening to you try to talk about this like you know what you're talking about, or watching the mistakes you make based on your misunderstanding of information I gave you. No, that's not what the nightly alignment process is called if you don't have a permanently mounted telescope. I know quite a few amateurs who have permanently mounted telescopes though. There's a whole neighborhood of them in Chiefland, Florida. Why don't you give them a call and ask if they still track fine night to night?

Sorry to hear you weren't able to get yours to work right (and it's funny how you only started using and misusing that "mapping" term after I introduced it a couple pages back - clearly you still don't understand it), but can you please explain then why I am able to accurately predict the moon's current position to within at least an arcminute using a book that was published 22 years ago, a decade before you were involved in the hobby?


Nope. Once a mapping run is completed and homing is set, the telescope's precise alignment is saved from session to session. That's the reason you do it, idiot.

With your consistent record of being totally full of shit, lying and your clearly illustrating a total lack of scientific aptitude, you will have to pardon me and I imagine anyone else able to access the thread if we don't take anything you write as anything other than total unadulterated horseshit, which it is.

If you were an expert astronomer you would be able to set up a telescope without permanently damaging it and voiding the warranty. You would also know that all major observatories do a nightly mapping run if they intend to locate multiple targets and that no amateur astronomer can auto locate a single celestial object without setting up his telescope using the procedure I outlined..You also wouldn't need to claim the work of others as your own, as in the photos you posted earlier. Those were the work of professional astronomers, top notch scientists who knew exactly what thy were doing, and not you, and the GLP telescope NEVER worked properly.

You are a bullshit artist and everyone on GLP knows it, why you continue to be paid is a mystery to me, you're fucking idiot. I miss the days of disinfo ops like Duncan Kunz who despite the fact that they were professional liars, at least they were good at it. You are no challenge with your self contradictory stupid posts.