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Then prove that. Present something showing how the calculations don't work. Thus far, you've done everything you can to avoid doing so.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker

Well considering he admitted to not even looking at the videos presented, I am not sure how he came to that conclusion.

It is another case of 'my way or the highway'. How people like the OP manage to get others to believe their nonesense is beyond me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34814542

I know exactly how they get people to believe it. My understanding comes from having watched Nancy Lieder's tricks over the years. All they have to do is appeal to people's belief in conspiracy. Then you portray all opposition to the supposed "truths" as being just part of a grand conspiracy. It works best if you spout something truly outrageous about a subject where the public is not well-informed. Then, when lots of people who are educated about things like astronomy say that it's stupidly wrong, you portray that response as a "shrill (or shill) attack" and build on that, never admitting to being wrong about anything, ever, unless it is to pretend that you are honest about "mistakes". Then you repeat and build on that over and over and over and over again.

Whether intentional or not, this is how they do it.
 Quoting: Menow 636186

Yes I have seen that happen, I've been called a shill many times. I just can't understand the nature of some people, to want to believe in something so desperately, that they become the highest order of gullible.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26853356

Yes, and then they imply that simply because "so many" people are saying that something is wrong, that it must be right, simply because of the opposition to it. You can see it on this very thread, where AA says that if he was just a nut-job, no one would bother to say he is wrong. Fact is, he *IS* just a deluded nut-job, but a lot of people who can't understand the science involved or parse logical arguments think there is some sort of stalemate.
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