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So explain me this bibletards. God gave us freewill but then he murdered everyone with the flood because of it

 
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Re: So explain me this bibletards. God gave us freewill but then he murdered everyone with the flood because of it
When are you guys n gals going to realize that the Lost book of Enki and even the Sumerian tablets predate the bible by thousands of years, thus the bible is full of BS, it was contrived as a control scheme for the minions, a collection of purposely mistranslated stories to manipulate and keep the sheeple in fear. IT STILL WORKS TO THIS VERY DAY! There may be a supreme being somewhere out in the vast cosmos but as for the Earth and its storied past, there just is NOT a single god head that murders and pilfers in the lives of humans. Wake the F up folks, we live in a cyclical environment, cataclysms come and go on a cycle, when it happens people record what happens, if you think some figure is out in the cosmos pushing the buttons and judging us,, well thats just incredulous.
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Though the Sumerian texts are more ancient, one would have to put their trust in the orthodoxy of Sitchen's translations. Sitchen is not without his critics.

From wikipedia:

When Sitchin wrote his books, only specialists could read the Sumerian language. However, sources such as the 2006 book Sumerian Lexicon[19] have made the language more accessible to non-experts. Ancient language scholar Michael S. Heiser[20] states he has found many inaccuracies in Sitchin's translations and challenges interested parties to use this book to check their validity.[15][21] Prof. Ronald H. Fritze,[22] author of the book Invented Knowledge: False History, Fake Science and Pseudo-religions,[22] mentions the example of Sitchin's claim that the Sumerian sign Din-Gir means "pure ones of the blazing rockets", adding that "Sitchin's assignment of meanings to ancient words is tendentious and frequently strained."[23] Fritze also commented on Sitchin's methodology, writing that "When critics have checked Sitchin's references, they have found that he frequently quotes out of context or truncates his quotes in a way that distorts evidence in order to prove his contentions. Evidence is presented selectively and contradictory evidence is ignored."[23]

Sitchin bases his arguments on his personal interpretations of pre-Nubian and Sumerian texts, and the seal VA 243. Sitchin wrote that these ancient civilizations knew of a twelfth planet, when in fact they only knew five.[24] Hundreds of Sumerian astronomical seals and calendars have been decoded and recorded, and the total count of planets on each seal has been five. Seal VA 243 has 12 dots that Sitchin identifies as planets. When translated, seal VA 243 reads "You're his Servant" which is now thought to be a message from a nobleman to a servant. According to semitologist Michael S. Heiser, the so-called sun on Seal VA 243 is not the Sumerian symbol for the sun but is a star, and the dots are also stars.[24][25] The symbol on seal VA 243 has no resemblance to the hundreds of documented Sumerian sun symbols.

In a 1979 review of The Twelfth Planet, Roger W. Wescott,[26] Prof. of Anthropology and Linguistics at Drew University, Madison, New Jersey, noted Sitchin's amateurishness with respect to the primacy of the Sumerian language:

Sitchin's linguistics seems at least as amateurish as his anthropology, biology, and astronomy. On p. 370, for example, he maintains that "all the ancient languages . . . including early Chinese . . . stemmed from one primeval source -- Sumerian". Sumerian, of course, is the virtual archetype of what linguistic taxonomists call a language-isolate, meaning a language that does not fall into any of the well-known language-families or exhibit clear cognation with any known language. Even if Sitchin is referring to written rather than to spoken language, it is unlikely that his contention can be persuasively defended, since Sumerian ideograms were preceded by the Azilian and Tartarian signaries of Europe as well as by a variety of script-like notational systems between the Nile and Indus rivers.[27]

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Re: So explain me this bibletards. God gave us freewill but then he murdered everyone with the flood because of it
try to look over NIP,the cia have hijacked his mind with the urantis book...the bible is a metaphor of your ego traits,brain parts and your 7 chakras written by william shakespear aka francis bacon...the previous translations are fake by the vatican to monarch program people to the surface literial meaning of the bible.
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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When are you guys n gals going to realize that the Lost book of Enki and even the Sumerian tablets predate the bible by thousands of years, thus the bible is full of BS, it was contrived as a control scheme for the minions, a collection of purposely mistranslated stories to manipulate and keep the sheeple in fear. IT STILL WORKS TO THIS VERY DAY! There may be a supreme being somewhere out in the vast cosmos but as for the Earth and its storied past, there just is NOT a single god head that murders and pilfers in the lives of humans. Wake the F up folks, we live in a cyclical environment, cataclysms come and go on a cycle, when it happens people record what happens, if you think some figure is out in the cosmos pushing the buttons and judging us,, well thats just incredulous.
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Though the Sumerian texts are more ancient, one would have to put their trust in the orthodoxy of Sitchen's translations. Sitchen is not without his critics.

From wikipedia:

When Sitchin wrote his books, only specialists could read the Sumerian language. However, sources such as the 2006 book Sumerian Lexicon[19] have made the language more accessible to non-experts. Ancient language scholar Michael S. Heiser[20] states he has found many inaccuracies in Sitchin's translations and challenges interested parties to use this book to check their validity.[15][21] Prof. Ronald H. Fritze,[22] author of the book Invented Knowledge: False History, Fake Science and Pseudo-religions,[22] mentions the example of Sitchin's claim that the Sumerian sign Din-Gir means "pure ones of the blazing rockets", adding that "Sitchin's assignment of meanings to ancient words is tendentious and frequently strained."[23] Fritze also commented on Sitchin's methodology, writing that "When critics have checked Sitchin's references, they have found that he frequently quotes out of context or truncates his quotes in a way that distorts evidence in order to prove his contentions. Evidence is presented selectively and contradictory evidence is ignored."[23]

Sitchin bases his arguments on his personal interpretations of pre-Nubian and Sumerian texts, and the seal VA 243. Sitchin wrote that these ancient civilizations knew of a twelfth planet, when in fact they only knew five.[24] Hundreds of Sumerian astronomical seals and calendars have been decoded and recorded, and the total count of planets on each seal has been five. Seal VA 243 has 12 dots that Sitchin identifies as planets. When translated, seal VA 243 reads "You're his Servant" which is now thought to be a message from a nobleman to a servant. According to semitologist Michael S. Heiser, the so-called sun on Seal VA 243 is not the Sumerian symbol for the sun but is a star, and the dots are also stars.[24][25] The symbol on seal VA 243 has no resemblance to the hundreds of documented Sumerian sun symbols.

In a 1979 review of The Twelfth Planet, Roger W. Wescott,[26] Prof. of Anthropology and Linguistics at Drew University, Madison, New Jersey, noted Sitchin's amateurishness with respect to the primacy of the Sumerian language:

Sitchin's linguistics seems at least as amateurish as his anthropology, biology, and astronomy. On p. 370, for example, he maintains that "all the ancient languages . . . including early Chinese . . . stemmed from one primeval source -- Sumerian". Sumerian, of course, is the virtual archetype of what linguistic taxonomists call a language-isolate, meaning a language that does not fall into any of the well-known language-families or exhibit clear cognation with any known language. Even if Sitchin is referring to written rather than to spoken language, it is unlikely that his contention can be persuasively defended, since Sumerian ideograms were preceded by the Azilian and Tartarian signaries of Europe as well as by a variety of script-like notational systems between the Nile and Indus rivers.[27]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: dei sapientiam in mysterio
...you cant translate sumerium without an interpreter of the pronunciation...there fake boneheads...
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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Re: So explain me this bibletards. God gave us freewill but then he murdered everyone with the flood because of it
READ THE ACCOUNT ABOUT SODOM AND GOMORRAH THEN LOOK AT OUR WORLD TODAY GOD IS MERCIFUL NOT WISHING THAT ANY SHOULD PERISH
I WAS MAD AT GOD FOR A TIME I REALIZE IT WAS PEOPLE WHO HURT ME BY THEIR WRONG DECISIONS THE BIBLE SAYS ONE SINNER DESTROYS MUCH GOOD LOOK AT THE WORLD TODAY THEN LOOK TO THOSE WHO REALLY WANT TO DO THE RIGHT THINGS CHOOSING THE RIGHT ROAD IS NOT ALWAYS EASY AND YOU CAN BE REJECTED FOR IT. GOD CHOSE TO SEND HIS ONLY SON TO DIE ON A CROSS A CHOICE JESUS MADE WHY BECAUSE HE LOVED YOU AND SAW YOU AT THE CROSS REMEMBER PEOPLE MAKE CHOICES AND THEY CAN HURT OTHERS JUST LIKE IN SODOM AND GOMORRAH THEY WERE HURTING OTHERS THEY EVEN WANTED THE ANGELS SENT BY GOD GOD IS HOLY AND WE ARE NOT AND WE ALL NEED TO TURN TO A HOLY GOD OR THIS WORLD CAN EAT US UP WITH ITS PRIDE AND GREAT PHILOSOPHIES. KNOW MATTER WHAT YOU THINK OR WHERE YOU STAND GOD STILL LOVES YOU FREE WILL IS GIVEN. BUT IF YOU REACH OUT TO GOD YOU WILL SEE LOVING ARMS REACHING BACK WE ARE ALL SINNERS AND IT IS ONLY BECAUSE OF HIS GRACE THAT WE COULD EVEN BE SAVED PRAYIN BLESSINGS ON YOU CONTINUALLY GOD BLESS YOU
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Re: So explain me this bibletards. God gave us freewill but then he murdered everyone with the flood because of it
We're free to make our own decisions. Wrong choices have consequences. What's so hard to understand?
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^^THIS^^ He is a father and as any father would he allows us to do as we will.

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Re: So explain me this bibletards. God gave us freewill but then he murdered everyone with the flood because of it
He did or we did? The collective conscious of mankind (yes a portion of god) balanced our karma with that flood by Gaia.
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Re: So explain me this bibletards. God gave us freewill but then he murdered everyone with the flood because of it
God gave us free will to believe in him or not. Do what we want.
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As I understand it, God did not give us free will. According to the Bible, we were coerced by external forces into a mistake which we were pre-warned against, and consequently suffer from our (perhaps premature) awareness of the concepts of Good and Evil.

Our fall was not an act of free will, but of coercion, the result of being molested by our watchers.

Yet, when people of Sodom and Gomorrah used free will to do what they wanted, God murdered them all for it.


God is a slave owner or the bible is a bunch of crap.
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God Is, Was, and Will Be. Are we slaves to gravity? To the air that we breathe? That a necessary force acts in necessary fashion is beyond our questioning.

I am no slave to God. I am His child.
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It´s a pity that approximately 90% (my estimation - I hope I am wrong) fancy God as a “superman” (better, greater, cleverer, more intelligent, more affectionate, more powerful,….). Most people feed this perception by the fact that they do not recognize themselves as a forever-existing spirit. They identify exclusively with their body which is, nevertheless, nothing else than a mean of transportation which we change in the course of our many incarnations repeatedly. If these people think then about the quotation from the Bible “And the human is created after the image of God.”, so God must have in their opinion of course also a body and look like a person.

God is the life itself and in no way he/she/it is able to interfere in our life.


I am in direct contact to Jesus Christ since more than 15 years and he gave me interesting information. Therefore I "know" and do not "believe". However, for you it will remain a belief.

“The people are God. One could also say “a part of God”. A personified God with long beard or sitting on a cloud does not exist.” (Channeling; 97 05 13)

„There is no God, who punishes. God, the original substance of existence is pure love. Humans are responsible for themselves what happens to them. They create their future. “
(Channeling; 97 12 01)



Probably it is a help for many people when they feel bad to believe in an external God that helps one. You are God - I personally prefer to say "part of God". You are the creator of your future. Start living and do not wait for a saviour. He will not come!
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Re: So explain me this bibletards. God gave us freewill but then he murdered everyone with the flood because of it
This is a big contradiction.

God gave us free will to believe in him or not. Do what we want.

Yet, when people of Sodom and Gomorrah used free will to do what they wanted, God murdered them all for it.


God is a slave owner or the bible is a bunch of crap.
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God was showing Christ how to use the fire that will destroy Satan's Babylon, I'm sure the victims will be rewarded for their part in making that possible. At Babylon people see the fire and remain alive, 1,000 years later he see the fire from being inside yet untouched.

Joh:5:19:
Then answered Jesus and said unto them,
Verily,
verily,
I say unto you,
The Son can do nothing of himself,
but what he seeth the Father do:
for what things soever he doeth,
these also doeth the Son likewise.