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Why did the jewish people change the genealogy line from paternal to maternal ???

 
The Watchman777 (OP)

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Ok I think I get what your saying. So then Jewish men are unable to pass on Jewishness because of something in their DNA??
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My point was that the orthodox jewish people in Israel are still strict about it .
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"O son of man, I HAVE SET THEE A WATCHMAN unto the house of Israel; therefore thou shalt hear the word at my mouth, and warn them from me... IF THOU DOST NOT SPEAK TO WARN THE WICKED from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but HIS BLOOD WILL I REQUIRE AT THINE HAND... IF THOU WARN THE WICKED of his way to turn from it; if he do not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but THOU HAST DELIVERED THY SOUL..." - Ezekiel 33:7-15
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Ok I think I get what your saying. So then Jewish men are unable to pass on Jewishness because of something in their DNA??
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Correct. The Jewish female is a carrier of Negro genes which has an entropic effect on the genome.
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bcoz u no who da mama is.
de daddy jus bes hearsay without a genelab

put that in yer scripcher and smoke it dumbass.
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bcoz u no who da mama is.
de daddy jus bes hearsay without a genelab

put that in yer scripcher and smoke it dumbass.
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Thank you for that huge contribution to the discussion , that might just clinch it . 5a
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"O son of man, I HAVE SET THEE A WATCHMAN unto the house of Israel; therefore thou shalt hear the word at my mouth, and warn them from me... IF THOU DOST NOT SPEAK TO WARN THE WICKED from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but HIS BLOOD WILL I REQUIRE AT THINE HAND... IF THOU WARN THE WICKED of his way to turn from it; if he do not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but THOU HAST DELIVERED THY SOUL..." - Ezekiel 33:7-15
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Because we are evil bastards who want to control the world and take all your gold and money and eat your babies. You know that's what you WANT to hear.
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I want to hear the truth !
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So you come and ask this place teeming with anti semites instead of doing your own research. That makes perfect and logical sense.
Occam's Razor, morans!
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i gess you dint go ta skool ay op?
logic
critical thinking

billy occams fukin razor an all
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Eve created Adam, Mary Magdalene created Jesus. . .no genealogy line comes from a man. All men come from a woman.

Women create men. Men would never exist without a woman. Not, one single man. Women are poweful and can create life. Men are . . .
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Because we are evil bastards who want to control the world and take all your gold and money and eat your babies. You know that's what you WANT to hear.
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I want to hear the truth !
 Quoting: The Watchman777


So you come and ask this place teeming with anti semites instead of doing your own research. That makes perfect and logical sense.
 Quoting: MartianPrincess


I will do both and I enjoy having discussion about such things , is that a problem ?
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"O son of man, I HAVE SET THEE A WATCHMAN unto the house of Israel; therefore thou shalt hear the word at my mouth, and warn them from me... IF THOU DOST NOT SPEAK TO WARN THE WICKED from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but HIS BLOOD WILL I REQUIRE AT THINE HAND... IF THOU WARN THE WICKED of his way to turn from it; if he do not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but THOU HAST DELIVERED THY SOUL..." - Ezekiel 33:7-15
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Eve created Adam, Mary Magdalene created Jesus. . .no genealogy line comes from a man. All men come from a woman.

Women create men. Men would never exist without a woman. Not, one single man. Women are poweful and can create life. Men are . . .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9263015


bonghit
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"O son of man, I HAVE SET THEE A WATCHMAN unto the house of Israel; therefore thou shalt hear the word at my mouth, and warn them from me... IF THOU DOST NOT SPEAK TO WARN THE WICKED from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but HIS BLOOD WILL I REQUIRE AT THINE HAND... IF THOU WARN THE WICKED of his way to turn from it; if he do not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but THOU HAST DELIVERED THY SOUL..." - Ezekiel 33:7-15
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bcoz u no who da mama is.
de daddy jus bes hearsay without a genelab

put that in yer scripcher and smoke it dumbass.
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Sounds good. And WHY is it important to know WHO and WHAT the momma is and NOt the father in this particular case?
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the only way a non tech society can prove lineage- thus inheritance
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Eve created Adam, Mary Magdalene created Jesus. . .no genealogy line comes from a man. All men come from a woman.

Women create men. Men would never exist without a woman. Not, one single man. Women are poweful and can create life. Men are . . .
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bonghit
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Awesome ! Yes, I wish I was smoking pot right now.

So, what do you disagree with ? Please tell me. :)
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Because we are evil bastards who want to control the world and take all your gold and money and eat your babies. You know that's what you WANT to hear.
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I want to hear the truth !
 Quoting: The Watchman777


So you come and ask this place teeming with anti semites instead of doing your own research. That makes perfect and logical sense.
 Quoting: MartianPrincess


Once you understand WHO a Semite is, you will understand that this is a very Semite-friendly place.
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Re: Why did the jewish people change the genealogy line from paternal to maternal ???
Eve created Adam, Mary Magdalene created Jesus. . .no genealogy line comes from a man. All men come from a woman.

Women create men. Men would never exist without a woman. Not, one single man. Women are poweful and can create life. Men are . . .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9263015


bonghit
 Quoting: The Watchman777

Awesome ! Yes, I wish I was smoking pot right now.

So, what do you disagree with ? Please tell me. :)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9263015


Women would not exist if not for Adam .
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"O son of man, I HAVE SET THEE A WATCHMAN unto the house of Israel; therefore thou shalt hear the word at my mouth, and warn them from me... IF THOU DOST NOT SPEAK TO WARN THE WICKED from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but HIS BLOOD WILL I REQUIRE AT THINE HAND... IF THOU WARN THE WICKED of his way to turn from it; if he do not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but THOU HAST DELIVERED THY SOUL..." - Ezekiel 33:7-15
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Because we are evil bastards who want to control the world and take all your gold and money and eat your babies. You know that's what you WANT to hear.
 Quoting: MartianPrincess


I want to hear the truth !
 Quoting: The Watchman777


So you come and ask this place teeming with anti semites instead of doing your own research. That makes perfect and logical sense.
 Quoting: MartianPrincess


Once you understand WHO a Semite is, you will understand that this is a very Semite-friendly place.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9896114


ohyeah
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"O son of man, I HAVE SET THEE A WATCHMAN unto the house of Israel; therefore thou shalt hear the word at my mouth, and warn them from me... IF THOU DOST NOT SPEAK TO WARN THE WICKED from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but HIS BLOOD WILL I REQUIRE AT THINE HAND... IF THOU WARN THE WICKED of his way to turn from it; if he do not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but THOU HAST DELIVERED THY SOUL..." - Ezekiel 33:7-15
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True .
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I misread your comment , I don't agree .
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So then you believe if one has only a Jewish father that they aren't Jewish then? Did Hitler spare people if they only had a Jewish dad? Does the KKK accept people with Jewish dad's as being white?
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The Orthodox position is that you are only considered Jewish if you are born to a Jewish mother. There is a huge debate that has been ongoing in Israel over just this point.

There was a policy in NS Germany to label certain jewish people descended from Jewish (Khazar-Aryan) paternal lines 'honorary Aryans'. If I'm not mistaken, I believe the Rothschilds were one of those families granted this designation.
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Interesting, I've never known about this one.
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I'm still wondering why the rabbi's changed the line from paternal to maternal , I wonder did they have something to hide . spock
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"O son of man, I HAVE SET THEE A WATCHMAN unto the house of Israel; therefore thou shalt hear the word at my mouth, and warn them from me... IF THOU DOST NOT SPEAK TO WARN THE WICKED from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but HIS BLOOD WILL I REQUIRE AT THINE HAND... IF THOU WARN THE WICKED of his way to turn from it; if he do not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but THOU HAST DELIVERED THY SOUL..." - Ezekiel 33:7-15
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duh
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Oh spare me the technicalities, I know what a Semite is, I mean in the context that is typically used on this site.
Occam's Razor, morans!
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Oh spare me the technicalities, I know what a Semite is, I mean in the context that is typically used on this site.
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Well even the geneticists are looking into the Khazar theory and we all know Khazar's are not Semites . Some are starting to seriously consider it .
The Watchman777

"O son of man, I HAVE SET THEE A WATCHMAN unto the house of Israel; therefore thou shalt hear the word at my mouth, and warn them from me... IF THOU DOST NOT SPEAK TO WARN THE WICKED from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but HIS BLOOD WILL I REQUIRE AT THINE HAND... IF THOU WARN THE WICKED of his way to turn from it; if he do not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but THOU HAST DELIVERED THY SOUL..." - Ezekiel 33:7-15
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I'm still wondering why the rabbi's changed the line from paternal to maternal , I wonder did they have something to hide . spock
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Obviously they aren't hiding anything - except from the religious herd they're managing and trying to educate towards a more civilized life.

Imagine Rabbi Ari proclaiming to the bobbing heads that their first mother looked almost exactly like Michelle Obama....
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Eve created Adam, Mary Magdalene created Jesus. . .no genealogy line comes from a man. All men come from a woman.

Women create men. Men would never exist without a woman. Not, one single man. Women are poweful and can create life. Men are . . .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9263015


bonghit
 Quoting: The Watchman777

Awesome ! Yes, I wish I was smoking pot right now.

So, what do you disagree with ? Please tell me. :)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9263015


Women would not exist if not for Adam .
 Quoting: The Watchman777

Okay, thanks for being kind to me. :)

Eve was the first person created. Eve did not come from Adam's rib. . .that was a "made up" story to hide the fact that Eve was God in the flesh.

No woman comes from a man. . . not EVER. All men come from women.

I know it is hard to digest. . . it took me by surprise , also. But, the Bible was edited to deceive and make it a "man's world".

But you will find out shorly that the Mother and Wife of God are the ruler of this universe.
The feminine Divine. . .is GOD and Sentencer. Just "good luck to ya ;)
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Current remarkable breakthroughs in genotypes have a few very distinct jewish DNA lines. Among these, there is actually a levite and Cohenic DNA that a present day male can trace back to Temple times if he is from an unbroken line of jewish fathers These roles were passed from father to son in the temple service
There was definitely some paternal implications in all this.
Also it is understood presently that the semitic lines originated mainly in Ethiopia and Egypt originally and migrated a very long time ago.
They have blessed the world with so much and remain the most despised.
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bonghit
 Quoting: The Watchman777

Awesome ! Yes, I wish I was smoking pot right now.

So, what do you disagree with ? Please tell me. :)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9263015


Women would not exist if not for Adam .
 Quoting: The Watchman777

Okay, thanks for being kind to me. :)

Eve was the first person created. Eve did not come from Adam's rib. . .that was a "made up" story to hide the fact that Eve was God in the flesh.

No woman comes from a man. . . not EVER. All men come from women.

I know it is hard to digest. . . it took me by surprise , also. But, the Bible was edited to deceive and make it a "man's world".

But you will find out shorly that the Mother and Wife of God are the ruler of this universe.
The feminine Divine. . .is GOD and Sentencer. Just "good luck to ya ;)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9263015


lol lets just agree to disagree .
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"O son of man, I HAVE SET THEE A WATCHMAN unto the house of Israel; therefore thou shalt hear the word at my mouth, and warn them from me... IF THOU DOST NOT SPEAK TO WARN THE WICKED from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but HIS BLOOD WILL I REQUIRE AT THINE HAND... IF THOU WARN THE WICKED of his way to turn from it; if he do not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but THOU HAST DELIVERED THY SOUL..." - Ezekiel 33:7-15
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Current remarkable breakthroughs in genotypes have a few very distinct jewish DNA lines. Among these, there is actually a levite and Cohenic DNA that a present day male can trace back to Temple times if he is from an unbroken line of jewish fathers These roles were passed from father to son in the temple service
There was definitely some paternal implications in all this.
Also it is understood presently that the semitic lines originated mainly in Ethiopia and Egypt originally and migrated a very long time ago.
They have blessed the world with so much and remain the most despised.
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High Aryan Priests....
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Current remarkable breakthroughs in genotypes have a few very distinct jewish DNA lines. Among these, there is actually a levite and Cohenic DNA that a present day male can trace back to Temple times if he is from an unbroken line of jewish fathers These roles were passed from father to son in the temple service
There was definitely some paternal implications in all this.
Also it is understood presently that the semitic lines originated mainly in Ethiopia and Egypt originally and migrated a very long time ago.
They have blessed the world with so much and remain the most despised.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6806608


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A more dramatic scenario, popularized by Arthur Koestler in his 1976 book The Thirteenth Tribe, has to do with the Khazars, a Turkish people living between the Black and Caspian Seas, whose royal house adopted Judaism (with what degree of rabbinical supervision, we have no way of knowing) in the 8th century c.e. A great deal is obscure in the history of the Khazar kingdom, which at its apogee ruled much of present-day Ukraine, and the degree of the Judaization of its population is uncertain. Yet Koestler and a small number of historians on whom he based himself were convinced that, following the destruction of this kingdom in the 11th century by its Slavic enemies, many of its jewish people fled westward to form the nucleus of what was to become East European Jewry.3

The Khazar theory never had many backers in scholarly circles; there was little evidence to support it and good reasons to be dubious about it. Why, for instance, does medieval rabbinic literature almost never mention the Khazars? Why, if they spoke a Turkish language, did East European Jewry become Yiddish-speaking? “Like virtually every academic I have ever consulted on the subject,” David Goldstein writes, “I was initially quite dismissive of Koestler’s identification of the Khazars [with] Ashkenazi Jewry.” Yet, he continues, “I am no longer so sure. The Khazar connection seems no more farfetched than the spectacular continuity of the Cohen line.”
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"O son of man, I HAVE SET THEE A WATCHMAN unto the house of Israel; therefore thou shalt hear the word at my mouth, and warn them from me... IF THOU DOST NOT SPEAK TO WARN THE WICKED from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but HIS BLOOD WILL I REQUIRE AT THINE HAND... IF THOU WARN THE WICKED of his way to turn from it; if he do not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but THOU HAST DELIVERED THY SOUL..." - Ezekiel 33:7-15
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A MOSAIC OF PEOPLE: THE JEWISH STORY AND A REASSESSMENT OF THE DNA EVIDENCE



Ellen Levy-Coffman





The Jewish community has been the focus of extensive genetic study over the past decade in an attempt to better understand the origins of this group. In particular, those descended from Northwestern and Eastern European Jewish groups, known as “Ashkenazim,” have been the subject of numerous DNA studies examining both the Y chromosome and mitochondrial genetic evidence.



The focus of the present study is to analyze and reassess Ashkenazi results obtained by DNA researchers and synthesize them into a coherent picture of Jewish genetics, interweaving historical evidence in order to obtain a more accurate depiction of the complex genetic history of this group. Many of the DNA studies on Ashkenazim fail to adequately address the complexity of the genetic evidence, in particular, the significant genetic contribution of European and Central Asian peoples in the makeup of the contemporary Ashkenazi population. One important contribution to Ashkenazi DNA appears to have originated with the Khazars, an ancient people of probable Central Asian stock that lived in southern Russia during the 8th-12th centuries CE. Significant inflow of genes from European host populations over the centuries is also supported by the DNA evidence. The present study analyzes not only the Middle Eastern component of Ashkenazi ancestry, but also the genetic contribution from European and Central Asian sources that appear to have had an important impact on Ashkenazi ancestry.
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"O son of man, I HAVE SET THEE A WATCHMAN unto the house of Israel; therefore thou shalt hear the word at my mouth, and warn them from me... IF THOU DOST NOT SPEAK TO WARN THE WICKED from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but HIS BLOOD WILL I REQUIRE AT THINE HAND... IF THOU WARN THE WICKED of his way to turn from it; if he do not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but THOU HAST DELIVERED THY SOUL..." - Ezekiel 33:7-15
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Oh spare me the technicalities, I know what a Semite is, I mean in the context that is typically used on this site.
 Quoting: MartianPrincess


Well even the geneticists are looking into the Khazar theory and we all know Khazar's are not Semites . Some are starting to seriously consider it .
 Quoting: The Watchman777


The Khazars looked like these Semitic fellas...


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Awesome ! Yes, I wish I was smoking pot right now.

So, what do you disagree with ? Please tell me. :)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9263015


Women would not exist if not for Adam .
 Quoting: The Watchman777

Okay, thanks for being kind to me. :)

Eve was the first person created. Eve did not come from Adam's rib. . .that was a "made up" story to hide the fact that Eve was God in the flesh.

No woman comes from a man. . . not EVER. All men come from women.

I know it is hard to digest. . . it took me by surprise , also. But, the Bible was edited to deceive and make it a "man's world".

But you will find out shorly that the Mother and Wife of God are the ruler of this universe.
The feminine Divine. . .is GOD and Sentencer. Just "good luck to ya ;)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9263015


lol lets just agree to disagree .
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Okay, luv ya man ! :)

If you come across any thought to prove me wrong. . . let me know hf
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Women would not exist if not for Adam .
 Quoting: The Watchman777

Okay, thanks for being kind to me. :)

Eve was the first person created. Eve did not come from Adam's rib. . .that was a "made up" story to hide the fact that Eve was God in the flesh.

No woman comes from a man. . . not EVER. All men come from women.

I know it is hard to digest. . . it took me by surprise , also. But, the Bible was edited to deceive and make it a "man's world".

But you will find out shorly that the Mother and Wife of God are the ruler of this universe.
The feminine Divine. . .is GOD and Sentencer. Just "good luck to ya ;)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9263015


lol lets just agree to disagree .
 Quoting: The Watchman777

Okay, luv ya man ! :)

If you come across any thought to prove me wrong. . . let me know hf
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Love you too ! :) and will do .
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"O son of man, I HAVE SET THEE A WATCHMAN unto the house of Israel; therefore thou shalt hear the word at my mouth, and warn them from me... IF THOU DOST NOT SPEAK TO WARN THE WICKED from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but HIS BLOOD WILL I REQUIRE AT THINE HAND... IF THOU WARN THE WICKED of his way to turn from it; if he do not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but THOU HAST DELIVERED THY SOUL..." - Ezekiel 33:7-15

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