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The two witnesses are gentiles

 
Anonymous Coward
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02/16/2012 04:40 AM
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Its time that word is made illegal and removed from all texts. It is racist!
Jesse (OP)
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02/17/2012 04:18 AM
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Its time that word is made illegal and removed from all texts. It is racist!
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It is not racist just as is in the bible discribing someone who is not jewish.It is just like calling someone a mexican being they are from mexico.
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02/18/2012 04:48 AM
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I hope that you all can keep a open mind when reading this.
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This is not what is popular among scolars and theologians,but most of them don't even know what their purpose is nor do they care as long as it fits there understanding of it.
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That is so very true.
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06/03/2012 11:19 AM
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06/03/2012 11:26 AM
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The two witnesses are the faithful jewish people and the Christians
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Remember there is no jewish or Gentile we are one in Christ Jesus. It doesn't matter who they are,what matters is, are you sealed with the holy spirit? we are in time of falling away or being sealed.
Occult is taking away the people. Alot of people are being seduced by doctrines of devils. Satan tempted Eve by eating what was forbiden. He told her that if she does eat she will know the good and evil. His still doing it in a twisted way. Satan has his rules and the entire world accept them whatever is not in the bible is a lie from satan. If we love our selves more than we love God we will never see his Kingdom. And if we fear men and do what the
world believe in, we will be doomed. The time is now to put on our cloth so that we dont walk naked.we must put on the full armour of God.Ephesians 6:10-17
Finally we must love one another
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Re: The two witnesses are gentiles
ref.Rev.11:1

the court of the gentiles

After the dedication of the temple,people will come to Jerusalem not lust the jewish people,but people from every nation will come to the temple.For the first three and a half years of the tribulation period.It will be a crush of people in the court of the gentiles at this time.

ref.Rev.11:2

The two Witnesses

The two Witnesses are found in the court of the gentiles,this is the first indication they are gentiles (no self respecting jewish would be outside the temple when he could be inside prophesying )

ref.Rev.11:3

The 1,260 days in prophesy

Compair this with Daniel.The extra days apparently have to do with times of purification of the priests and the temple.

ref.Rev.11:4 Zech 4:1-4

The two olive trees and the two candlesticks

A. Olive,olive trees and olive oil etc.speak of the reconciliation to God.This is seen the first time in the bible when the dove(the symbol and type of the Holy Spirit) brings an olive branch back to Noah after the flood.The olive branches of Zechariah will reconcile Israel to the Lord.

B. Olive trees bear alot of fruit.The best trees bear so much fruit that the olive oil drips from the branches.The two Whitnesses will have very fruitful ministries before entering the temple.As on real olive trees,much of their fruit will be hidden from view until time of harvest.

C. The candlestick is the word of God.Psalm 119:105 says "Thy word is a lamp unto my feet,and a light unto my path " Why is there only one candlestick in Zechariah and two in Revelation? Simple there was only one covenant(the old covenant) in Zechariah's time and two covenants (the old and the new)in John's and our time.This is another indication that the two Witnesses are gentile and christian.

D. The oil is always a reference to the anointing Holy Spirit.The dripping from the branches speaks of the continual anointing of the Holy Spirit in the lives and the ministries of these two men,just as in the natural the olive oil is extracted from the olives through a series of crushings.These men wil have to go through personal "crushings" and will have sold out so completely,that they will have soldout to the service of God that they will lose their idenities by the time they start their ministry in the outer court of the temple.

ref.Rev.11:5

Protection for the two Witnesses

There will be those who try to physically harm the two Witnesses during the time of their ministry at the temple.They will speak as one person and fire will fall to destroy their enemies.

ref.Rev.11:6

supernatural anointing of the two Witnesses

This is where people get off track on who the two Witnesses are.Romans 3:21 says "but now the rightous of God without the law is manifested being witnessed by the law and the prophets" Moses (the law)and Elijah (the prophets) appeared at the transfiguration (Matt.17:1-13) they appeared in thier glorified bodies and had to com in the Shekinah glory cloud cloud to keep from being defiled for thier return to heaven. Moses phisically died as it is stated in Hebrews 9:27 "and it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this is judgement" Elijah did return agin Jesus said that he was john the Baptist.see Matt. 11:1-14 but esp. vs.14 and matthew 17:12-13.The two Witnesses will have the anointings of Moses and Elijah to do all these things. They will not be Moses and Elijah themselves.

ref.Rev.11:7

The death of the two Witnesses

Daniel makes a reference to this when he speaks of the "abomination that causes desolation" includes witchcraft,paganism and human sacrifice. the account of the first time this happened can be read about in the books of 1 and 2 Maccabees,usually found in the Apocrypha.This is the reclamation of the temple is what the jewish festival of Chanukah is about it is a valuable reading.

ref.Rev.11:8

The spiritual condition of Jerusalem

Jerusalem is refered to as Sodom and Egypt here to reflect the spiritual condition of Jerusalem during the tribulation period.Sodom is a symbol of the gross sins prevalent,Egypt is a symbol of false sense of security that the world has placed in the antichrist.This verse speaks of the death of the two Witnesses.This verse indicates that they will be crucified as Jesus was.Some translations say "where there Lord was crucified" This tells us two things 1.another clue that they might be christians. 2.The method of their death crucifixion.At the time of their deaths,the jewish people will recognize that Jesus is Messiah see Zechirah chapter 12.

ref.Rev.11:9-10

no burial for the two Witnesses

After the deaths of the two Witnesses their bodies will be unceremoniously dumped in the streets of Jerusalem.This is so important because jewish law requires them to be buried in 24 hours.They will be raised to life 3 and 1/2 days with every nation and tounge watching.this is made possible by our leaps in communication tecnology.People will give each other gifts like our christmas of today to celebrate the death of these two men who tormented the people of earth.


A foot note for you

This is about Zerubbable.The mention of Zerubbable in Zechariah is a prophetic one,if you study carefully, you will discover that he only repaired the temple of Solomon and and he did not rebuild it from the foundation up. The zurubbable of Zechariah is alive today.Has he met the two Witnesses yet? Only God knows the answer to that.
 Quoting: Jesse 9006464


I met a man in Israel in 1998 who was like no one I had met before. He told me how YESHUA told him HE was sending him to Israel. And by this sign he would know that it was God. His wife would conceive twins and one would die in the womb. The other would be born on the 1st day of Hanukah. A year and ½ later his wife conceived and had a miscarriage. When she when to the doctor she was told she was still pregnant. On the 1st night of Hanukah his son was born.
This man told me how God told him to call the priminister of Israel and tell him if he gave away anymore of his brothers land God was going to strike him down. Rabin signed the treaty and land was given to the PA. Within a month of the call Rabin was shot down by someone unknown to this man. God fulfilled the prophecy.
This man came to Israel and like I said there was something different about him. His eyes were full of light and love. I felt as if I knew him all my life.
I went to red sea with him and others in the car. It started to pour coming back the man prayed and the storm stopped. There wasn’t a cloud in the sky. The muslim young man who was driving us was quiet the entire remaining 2 hours back to Jerusalem. The next morning the young man came to our hotel with his uncle and father asking that the man come to his grandfather. I went and then I watched a man with gangrene feet get healed by the words this man spoke. He told the man to stay off his feet for three days and God would heal it. We went to up north to and when we returned three days later the man and his family were at the hotel and his feet were completely healed.
After that day in the car when the rain stopped it was the longest draught Israel faced in a very long time. For three and a half years the rain didn’t fall. The lake went down to dangerous levels. It was unsafe to swim in it. Wells were running dry thru out the area.
I asked this man who he was. Was he a prophet. He replied I am a servant of God. I asked him again are you Elijah. He replied I am a servant of God. Others asked are you one of the witnesses. He replied I am a servant of the most high God. Never did this man claim anything for himself.
I watched this man speak at the western wall. I heard it in English, others with us heard it in Arabic, a language spoken in a village in Kenya and in Hebrew. It was powerful the entire crowd turned and was silent they parted as he left. He told them that righteousness comes from God alone. That their begging for money was making this place of pray a house of prostitution.

I witnessed this man on many trips he took to Israel. Each time people were healed and came to faith.
He last trip he told us he wouldn’t be back until after the fighting. We were all like what fighting what are you talking about. A few months later the infata started.
If anyone fulfills the description of one of the witnesses it is he.

I look forward to seeing him again and the other person that will return to the land with him.

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