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REAL BREAKING NEWS: LAKE VOSTOK SCIENTISTS NOT RESPONDING IN ANTARTICA....

 
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lots of useful links and drop off points for research in that one

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thank U!
i was trying to link them and kept getting distracted.
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I wonder what the CO2 levels in that water are like. Under all that pressure, popping the cork on that lake may well be like opening a dropped bottle of soda water.

It's possible.
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I just cant help but think about that movie "The Thing". This is some of the more interesting news Ive read in a while.
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[link to www.enterprisemission.com]

...
A team of scientists from Columbia University, working under the auspices of the NSF, early in 2001 began a series of unprecedented low-altitude aerial surveys over Lake Vostok, designed to chart gravitational, magnetic and thermal activity under the ice. In the course of doing so, they made a stunning find. A huge magnetic anomaly was discovered covering the entire Southeast portion of the shore of the Lake. This remarkable anomaly, which is discrepant from the background by over 1,000 nanoteslas (a significant variance, compared to daily variations in the Earth's magnetic field), could of course be caused by "natural" processes.
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from the same link:

So what's happening? Two thoughts immediately spring to mind:

One is that some "Special Project" has, against all scientific and environmental prudence, indeed drilled through the ice into the Lake Vostok eco-system (clandestinely, of course). And, the participants have suddenly found themselves exposed to "something" for which their bodies literally have no immunity -- something not extant in the rest of Earth's biosphere for between 13,000 and several million years! After the initial reports of "four emergency extractions," the number changed to five ... and now twelve McMurdo personnel are supposedly in need of a dangerous, "emergency medical evacuation" well into the Antarctic winter season. At one level, this has all the earmarks of "something" virulently spreading among the limited winter population at the Base, something that even the fairly complete medical facilities at McMurdo can no longer cope with. Complicating the picture is the fact that the "extractees" are not research scientists or long-term support personnel, but are all employees of Raytheon Corporation -- a high-tech firm that is deeply involved in a variety of black-ops programs for the U.S. government all around the world.

This idea (that these two simultaneous "emergencies" are actually due to some kind of "black ops fiasco" in Antarctica) is reinforced by another little noticed story coming out of the Amundson-Scott Base -- that the doctor being brought in (to replace the ailing doctor) has been asked to also bring in "an emergency supply of salt." She's even been asked to "stuff her own pockets full of salt packets," ostensibly because there is "no room on the rescue aircraft itself." This is obviously a silly, thinly-veiled "cover story" ... designed to tell someone "outside" ... "something." Salt is crucial to survival in outdoor conditions in Antarctica. The air is so dry, that unless someone exposed to the outdoors there has a good supply of salt, they are likely to face the possibility of death by mineral depletion and dehydration. Obviously the Base, after years of operation, would have a pretty good handle on just how much salt is needed until the next re-supply plane arrives. So how is it that they suddenly find themselves desperately without any of it left?!

Maybe, because they suddenly had a unique situation. Maybe because a team of scientists and engineers from Raytheon spent a lot of unplanned days out on the windswept ice, frantically drilling against the clock, in an all-out effort to break through to the Lake below -- and in the process, used far more than the normal complement of salt to survive.

The other possibility for the sudden, simultaneous "evacuations" is even more extraordinary.

What if these Raytheon black ops personnel did indeed find "something" in their secret drilling under Vostok -- and needed to get it back to civilization ASAP for in-depth study. Under this scenario, the whole idea of an "outbreak" is simply a ruse to cover the need for a large airplane (a New Zealand C-130 Hercules) dramatically visiting McMurdo at a time never attempted in all its years before: the only "way out" for something very important from the Continent. How do you cover such an operation? Put all the medical hints out there, and wait for the Internet conspiracists to "figure out" that there has been some kind of outbreak at McMurdo (there has been NO official confirmation of this theory, by the way), all the while covering your real agenda -- which is to get your hands on a genuine artifact from "Zep-Tepi" before the dead of the Antarctic winter makes any such attempt this year impossible!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8769489


slang term for its radioactive
salt=iodine
fill your pockets with salt=bring idoized salt or iodine concentrate

IMHO, the anomoly is the nuked remains of a 10,000 year old modern city, (rainbow city??)and the water stays un-frozen because its radioactive, aka hot
not from a geothermal vent

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lots of useful links and drop off points for research in that one

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I agree. After reading the pdf there from the last Australian-based observation team I have to wonder what's happening with the Russian station. How do you safely store Freon over the longterm in sub-zero temps?
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I want to see this reported by a source other than Fox News.

If that happens, then I'll go rewatch Carpenter's "The Thing".
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The original is better... Carpenters is really good.... last year's remake was fucking awful.
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Its not a remake, its a sequel. Common mistake people make going in to see the movie.
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Technically, it's a prequel. Semantics, I know; but I'm a nitpicker.

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Good point..it is a prequel in my book....but Wiki's definition applies to both.

'A sequel is a...Movie...that continues the story of or expands upon issues presented in some previous work.'

'A prequel is a work that supplements a previously completed one, and has an earlier time setting.'

Nonetheless, as good as Carpenter's is, is the new film worth watching? If only to find out how related it is to this.
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I want to see this reported by a source other than Fox News.

If that happens, then I'll go rewatch Carpenter's "The Thing".
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The original is better... Carpenters is really good.... last year's remake was fucking awful.
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It was a fucking prequel, and it was awesome...and hopefully, not at all prophetic...
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additional threads with good info

Thread: Lake Vostok and Rainbow City are in the same location!!!!! (Page 5)

Thread: A US Air Force jet parked at Christchurch International Airport

Thread: All Eyes on Lake Vostok...To Be Breached Today!!! (Page 16)

Thread: Antarctica and its Volcanism and Vostok (Page 4)

I believe the key is in the personel

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bump

hmmmm interestingbumphfbump

sci adventure
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6245825


lots of useful links and drop off points for research in that one

dr
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I agree. After reading the pdf there from the last Australian-based observation team I have to wonder what's happening with the Russian station. How do you safely store Freon over the longterm in sub-zero temps?
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yes, that report was very nice
and with all the pictures, too

one of the other sites pictures looked like a war zone

busted up buildings, barrels scattered
if you liked that report,
in the thread on volcanos started by ss, there is an abstract about the drilling operation

dr

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Good riddance. Just another set of scientist fucking something up.
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bump

hmmmm interestingbumphfbump

sci adventure
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sci fi = sci fact
sci fact =sci fi

lol

who needs movies, when you have glp

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Good riddance. Just another set of scientist fucking something up.
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lake vostok has gotten more attention from nations than any expedition before. They prolly know something fishy is down there.
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They send a Delta Team in,to kill them all!To keep everything secret,what is happening there!5a
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go to google and search "lake vostok news"

youll find:
[link to www.tweaktown.com]

and a fox news report, too.

Paraphrasing, the article says that they either found something amazing and are covering it up, or its a catastrophe that coincidentally have catastrophe right when they make worldwide news about unearthing a polar ocean that hasnt seen light in 20 MILLION YEARS.
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take a look at this...

[link to www.youtube.com]
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The original is better... Carpenters is really good.... last year's remake was fucking awful.
 Quoting: Roentgen®


Its not a remake, its a sequel. Common mistake people make going in to see the movie.
 Quoting: Fuhrer D 3916559


Technically, it's a prequel. Semantics, I know; but I'm a nitpicker.

SmileyWink
 Quoting: MrRumpleSteelskin


Good point..it is a prequel in my book....but Wiki's definition applies to both.

'A sequel is a...Movie...that continues the story of or expands upon issues presented in some previous work.'

'A prequel is a work that supplements a previously completed one, and has an earlier time setting.'

Nonetheless, as good as Carpenter's is, is the new film worth watching? If only to find out how related it is to this.
 Quoting: superflyscot

It was worth it to me; it was free! (Gotta take advantage of free streaming while you can.) This "prequel" is a bit generic, but it is worth watching. Carpenter's was by far better because of tone, and depth of characters; namely, Kurt Russel's. I believe the new one insinuates that the beings on the craft found in the ice had been infected/overtaken by intelligent parasitic entities and crashed as a result of a pogrom on the ship. That's the gist. Good story, but I doubt prophetic. I would be more worried about a dormant virus/bacteria/parasite in that water than anything. I've always thought there was a defense mechanism implanted on Earth that would be triggered came across it. This planet is the real host being and we are a virus....


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Predator got them. Have none of you seen Aluiens vs. Predators? Shit is real.
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what retard wrote that fox article?

"Temps are dropping below -40 Celsius [-40 degrees Fahrenheit]"
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if i remember correctly from my time living in alaska,
there is a point around -40 where
celcius and farenheit line up.

i think you should not be so fast on the retard.
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Well, let's see: degrees F-32)/1.8 = degrees C

So, if we have -40F, then subtract 32 we get -72.

-72 divided by 1.8 = -40 C!!!! It works!!!

-40 F is equal to - 40 C!

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Didn't I read somewhere that they have kerosene in that shaft? An explosion occurred perhaps?
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18-Mile Crack Seen by NASA in Antarctic Glacier!!!

is Pine Island near Lake Vostok????
[link to news.yahoo.com]


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releasing 20+ million year old gas. yeah that'll probably knock you out for awhile.
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gaahhh!

from Wikipedia:

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The drilling technique employed thus far by the Russians has involved the use of freon and kerosene to lubricate the borehole and prevent it from collapsing and freezing over; 60 tons of these chemicals have been used thus far on the ice above Lake Vostok.[8] Other countries, particularly the United States and Britain, have failed to persuade the Russians not to pierce to the lake until cleaner technologies such as hot-water drilling are available.[37] Though the Russians claim to have improved their operations, they continue to use the same borehole, which has already been filled with kerosene.[38]

According to the head of Russian Antarctic Expeditions, Valery Lukin, the new equipment had been developed by researchers at the St. Petersburg Nuclear Physics Institute that would ensure the lake remains uncontaminated upon intrusion.[1][39] Lukin has repeatedly reassured other signatory nations to the Antarctic Treaty System that the drilling will not affect the lake. He argues that on breakthrough, water will rush up the borehole, freeze, and seal the chemical fluids out.

The international scientific community however remains unconvinced by these arguments. The Antarctic and Southern Ocean Coalition argues that this is a profoundly misguided step, which endangers not only Lake Vostok itself, but could harm other subglacial lakes in Antarctica, which some scientists are convinced are inter-linked with Lake Vostok.[5] This coalition asserts that "it would be far preferable to join with other countries to penetrate a smaller and more isolated lake, before re-examining whether penetration of Lake Vostok is environmentally defensible. If we are wise, the Lake will be allowed to reveal its secrets in due course."[5]
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well, let's try to keep track of this stuff. thanks.
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Didn't I read somewhere that they have kerosene in that shaft? An explosion occurred perhaps?
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sorry, but it is possible.
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Think about this if you will. This is such a completely isolated location, the only news coming out of there is the news they choose to give us. Thus the speculations and fears generated by said news are thus generated by those releasing the info. It's not like there are any media sources double checking the information first hand.

We know what they want us to know truth and lies, more lies, nothing more.
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"I wonder what the CO2 levels" actually they say it is oxygen that is 50 times normal oxygen, so sounds like big explosion time to me.

It's possible.
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Doom Off

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Cover story.


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