An answer to some Seventh-Day Adventist theology (Free Will, Daily Cross & Mystery Bablyon).

This entire message was actually a response to a post in another thread. I decided that it was important enough to repost here so that others may see it and learn from it.




The Seventh-Day Adventists do lift up a Jesus but certainly not the Jesus of the bible. This is what they believe concerning the ability of men to choose God:



Such a doctrinal stance is in direct opposition to the teachings of Christ and the bible.

John 6:44 NO MAN CAN COME TO ME, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. Jesus spoke these words:

Matthew 16:16, 17 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: FOR FLESH AND BLOOD HATH NOT REVEALED IT UNTO THEE, BUT MY FATHER WHICH IS IN HEAVEN.

Luke 10:21 In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank THEE, O FATHER, Lord of heaven and earth, that THOU HAST HID THESE THINGS from the wise and prudent, and hast REVEALED THEM unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight.

Paul spoke these words:

Romans 3:9,11 What then? are we better [than they]? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both jewish people and Gentiles, that they are all under sin; as it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: there is none that understandeth, there is NONE THAT SEEKETH AFTER GOD.

Romans 9:14-16 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid. For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. So then IT IS NOT OF HIM THAT WILLETH, NOR OF HIM THAT RUNNETH, but of God that sheweth mercy.

Romans 9:18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and WHOM HE WILL HE HARDENETH.

So, clearly, their view on salvation is already in major error. But there is more.



There is a Seventh-Day Adventists church directly across the street of my house. I can literally walk across the street and be on their grounds within 2 minutes or less. Every Saturday the congregants drive their cars to the church to have worship service. Do they realize that in doing so they have violated the Sabbath? When a car starts, what happens is fires are ignited in the cylinders of the motor. And the lighting of fires on a Sabbath was an offense punishable by death in the OT.

Exodus 35:3 Ye shall kindle no fire throughout your habitations upon the sabbath day.

Exodus 35:2 Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day there shall be to you an holy day, a sabbath of rest to the LORD: whosoever doeth work therein shall be put to death.

But besides that, Paul clearly states that literal Sabbaths are no longer required to be observed. But as NT Christians, we are to be observing the spiritual Sabbath, which is every single day and not just on Sunday or Saturday.

Colossians 2:16, 17 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: WHICH ARE A SHADOW of things to come; but the body is of Christ.




And yet Ellen blatantly ignores the command of Paul:

1Timothy 2:11, 12 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

How many of the books of the bible were written by women? None, because women were supposed to be in subjection to their fathers or husbands. Clearly SDA theology is centered largely around the teachings of a woman. That alone should raise a red flag that something is not right.



The woman was an out-and-out liar. Do some research on her if you're really interested.

[link to www.1timothy4-13.com]



I am aware that SDA do not believe in praying to literal crosses and such. What I was referring to was the daily cross commanded by Christ that we must carry, without which we cannot be his disciple (learner).

Luke 14:27 And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple.

Do you know what a cross is or how to get one? First of all, the cross we are required to carry is not literal. Secondly, we get a cross from telling people the truth and living a godly life. Jesus was condemned to a literal cross for telling the truth:

John 8:40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.

We are condemned to a figurative cross for telling the truth:

Galatians 4:16 Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?

2Timothy 3:12 Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.

Galatians 6:14 But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world.



You are absolutely right. This is also Mystery Babylon, a system of men's traditions. And the Great Whore is more than simply the Roman Catholic Church: it is the entire philosophy of man which exalts itself above God.



Yes, but there is more to it than that. Each and every system or person which contradicts God is antichrist, and the antichrist system is the Whore system.



There are more than ten commandments. It is true that the older commandments have never been done away with. However, the rituals of the OT were annulled and are finished. This means there is no requirement to observe literal feast days or sabbaths. However, all such feast days and the sabbaths are now to be observed figuratively. Paul gives us an example:

1Corinthians 5:6, 7 Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump? Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us: therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

Please note that Paul was not referring to the keeping of a literal feast. For if Paul were referring to the keeping of a literal feast, then we could conclude that Paul was also calling Christ a literal lamb, which is obviously not true. Also note that Paul referred to the man who committed adultery with his step-mother as spiritual leaven (vv.1-5).