Conciousness, filters and the eschatological age

Create mind beyond it. As always, potentials and possibilities as we need.

Allusion is always an important part. The more freely we can extricate objects from our subconcious, the more truth or dynamic flow we can take from them.

So what you're essentially saying, is that mankind created the afterlife and all the possibilities therein? This will require further digestion, but this realization is not outside the realm of acceptance.

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No, We're not the creators. We are the re-creators trying to find our path(s) home. We have been given all the tools, may our creator be an active or passive intelligence we have laws to point us in the right direction.

I will reflect on that. Thank you.

Our need for an apocalypse speaks more about our inability to accept our present circumstance than it does of a need or want of catastrophic occurrence.

No worries. Only you can find truth. Gurus and leaders can only obscure it and murder it by trying to make it their own.

It exists outside of our words and pale manipulations.

Are you saying that we don't want to face our karma?

Peace and Love

Purpose, Karma, whatever your belief the situation is the same; There is an inability to choose or see a better circumstance and usher it into being. We know this is not the road but we are waiting to be lead.

Only slaves can be lead. The road requires freedom. Freedom only comes with responsibility and true knowledge.

Understanding is the key to any future potential

The present is the shadow of the past as it shades the potential future.

In native American legend, hermaphrodites were the messengers to the great spirit.

It would be more appropriate to see them as sexless or solely energies of pure transmutation. They do not speak they leave visual imagery and pure tone.

Often alluded to as muses.

Words are our inadequate forms of expression.

Is it your fleeting body or eternal spirit you wish to save from the voracious ghosts of others Ideas?

>>Our need for an apocalypse speaks more about our inability to accept our present circumstance than it does of a need or want of catastrophic occurrence.<<

seems so..


>>Understanding is the key to any future potential<<

an Understanding is a comprehension, no? but what about an OVERstanding I wonder..


>>It would be more appropriate to see them as sexless or solely energies of pure transmutation. They do not speak they leave visual imagery and pure tone..<<

this is worth further investigation. do you have more to input on the subject? I find myself in a constant battle here.


>>Is it your fleeting body or eternal spirit you wish to save from the voracious ghosts of others Ideas?<<

both, it seems the spirit is not ready it needs the body for more time so it can be.


very heavy stuff you are presenting here OP, I am collecting much of the same, I dont want to be crushed under the weight of it all so any more input you have may help me to gain more stregnth.


thanks

Maybe the fifth age is the bringer of the ideal form, nothing more. Plato believed in a realm of perfect abstractions, everything physical drew its existance from this form. Until our truth shows up we are just shadows of a thought of perfection

Yes, I believe it the other way about; that perfection is the fleeting shadow/ghost that we build forms for including words. I understand the universe as tone and image that may be perfect in mind, but our choice or ego/bias in what splits these images and tones meanings.

in essence: God does not speak he creates perfection. It is our interpretation which either raises it to where we understand it or make it a prisoner of our vice.

It exists outside our words and pale manipulations, nuff said,although it doesn't quench the need to know!

If I can be like no one else; Who will I be

If the new world must be unlike the old to raise us; What will it be

It must be like nothing we know but everything we hold true

We must be clear like glass as to allow the light of reason and understanding not be interpreted but passed from soul to soul.

No and it should never douse that flame. The quest is as much knowledge as the Idea of how to transmit it without corruption.

That higher power what are we to MAKE of him.Excellent thread, between you and sickscent these few days i'm going to sit in my slow vibrational, mundane body and drool for awhile

And thank you for taking part. The viewer does change the outcome and become as Important to the outcome as any other participant. I wouldn't create a thread for self aggrandizement. I find that we find ourselves in the reflections of others eyes.

These days I work with a hammer and when I'm not hammering, I'm wiping wee butts, nothing special here.

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walter states he is aware of the cause of all effect

he writes his evidence for that statement in plain english and it is all on line

my point is, your posts never reflect his explanation of the cause of all effect thus i assume you disagree with him and therefore utilize your own awareness of the cause of all effect

i was wondering why you consider him wrong

Well, let me deduce as you adduce my postulations. I have stated, we are not the creator or creators of matter. Thus WE are not the creator. My only statement is that direct intervention is not in the realm of choice, will, intent or potentiality. Thus god is indirect and directly interwoven in conciousness. He She It is interwoven into laws that we with imperfect conciousness seek to understand.

Therefore it is likely you construing I don't agree with Russell more than I disagreeing with him; Unless of course an inability to see or strive is hiding in your statement and I'm misconstruing it.

All matter in deed has cause and effect on each the other as interpolation and communication is key to understanding and creating states of clarity.

Dynamism, even in god, is the uncapturable essence that alters perspectives while itself remaining a constant to entropy .

For simplicities sake: God is the dreamer eliciting the images and tones which from Aeons on high to divine humanity we interpret as perfectly or as imperfectly as we have sight to see.

The wheels were set in motion and the rules unwaveringly hold the system together until the final inhalation. The potentialities henceforth (from inception) are resultant of the interactions of the systems put into motion and the alterations caused by the clarity or lack thereof of the potentialities or capabilities ascribed to the myriad players on the board.

The first logic is to put a check or balance on every power( including prime ) in the system to create the freedom of flow and ability of perfection inasmuch the imperfect with which to match it.

In essence God's wife: place name here

And yes, I'm looking for a clearer gain frequency in the chaos. By first clearing my antennae.

Here's another look at the trickster. The double or form of ka is a mercurial fool or trickster spirit at times. This is the psychological form of impulsive behaviour.

This spirit is as much a guide to our heroic nature as it is too our foolhardiness. As it does not die with the body or undergo judgement as we do. It is free as of our death, thus it has no fear.

This is the form we must control to attain balance and perhaps get inklings of our divine or semi divine soul.

Sex, Lies and Tulpa tape

Misrepresentation and rationalization for gain are likely the culprits in most of our dramas. We create secondary personalities as a way to create external validations and prosper through indulging our fantasies, through the naiveties of others.

The reasoning is clear. Firstly, we wish to distance ourselves from that which we deem to be our unsavoury characteristics ,may they be physical or mental aspects of ourselves.

Secondarily, we wish to attract a want or external validation to bolster our sense of self in an overly quantitative world. This creates a cycle of necessity which traps the true persona as a shadow aspect.

We must continually indulge these either internally or externally generated wants with our time and energies until they become a habituation that pulls us ever further from the self we have isolated. In essence, We have created a self rationalizing schism which allows us to appropriate wants while neglecting the aspects of self we must most expose and strengthen.

The inability to directly confront oneself creates a morass of continual lies and rationalizations to maintain so called special qualities that leave us further entrenched and separated from self.

Lies unto themselves consume more time and energy solely by the act of having to remember facts as told rather than as they are and of course the ritual in the story telling.

The lies also inure the secondary persona to the act of lying itself causing an ever more complex entanglement and deepening entrenchment to the secondary character.

This unto itself creates a trapped and yearning primary persona which is ever more looking for validation in a evermore complicated theatre which presents the makeup as more the person than the person themselves.

Jung believed that these denials of inherent character lead to the creation of external strife and potentially as more constrained energies manifested themselves the creation of extra personal tulpas and potentially physically interactive ethereal forms.

In toto, It seems to be a phenomenal waste of energy to misrepresent what your character truly seeks and is inherently curious towards. In the worst of cases you will get the help which you need. In the best scenarios, you will soar to your potential.

But, by suppressing and in the very least not discussing that which you may deem embarassing, unsightly or unpopular, the only person you leave without clarity is yourself.

HOWEVER unfamiliar, as yet, to the West, the freely used Sanskrit nomenclature of Theosophy -- the universal Wisdom-Religion -- contains for developing Aryan minds immense stores of intelligible truth. Within the terms used is said to be conveyed the hidden meaning, the undisclosed veda. This meaning the student is encouraged to get at, if he would apprehend the doctrine along its esoteric lines. For it is often declared that man epitomizes the universe in little, he copies the whole down to its finest detail, hence he will know himself in measure as he knows cosmic evolution. In this sense the greater will evidently contain the lesser, and "cosmic" Sanskrit thus embraces ideas which, when found, make for human progress.

One such term is Pradhana. Pradhana is defined as undifferentiated Substance. Manifestly it is a great deal more than the words imply, for it is called also Akasha, Alaya, and is even identified with Mulaprakriti -- all of which stand for the "root of Nature and Life." Pradhana or matter unmodified is "the first form of material nature (prakriti), as well as invisible nature. It and Purusha, spirit, are eternally one. They are without adventitious qualities or attributes only during Pralaya, and when beyond any of the planes of consciousness of existence." Vishnu Purana further states that "from Pradhana, primordial substance, presided over by embodied spirit (Kshetrajna) proceeds the evolution of ... qualities. From the great Principle Mahat (Universal Intellect, or mind) proceeds the origin of the subtle elements and from these the organs of sense."

The "qualities" are the Trigunas, the three divisions of the inherent attributes of differentiated matter, or nature. Prakriti is nature in general, as opposed to Purusha, the spiritual nature or spirit. Together the two -- Prakriti and Purusha -- are the "primeval aspects of the One Unknown Deity." Purusha is the basis of all manifested objects. Without it nothing could exist or cohere. It interpenetrates everything everywhere. It is the reality of which, or upon which, those things called real by us are mere images. As Purusha reaches to and embraces all beings, they are all connected together, and in or on that plane where that Purusha is, there is a perfect consciousness of every act, thought, object, and circumstance, whether supposed to occur there, or on this plane, or any other. In the Sankhya philosophy, Purusha, spirit, is spoken of as something impotent unless he mounts on the shoulders of Prakriti, matter, which left alone, is -- senseless. But in the secret philosophy the two are viewed as graduated. Though co-eternal and co-existent, one and the same in origin, Spirit and Matter, when once they are on the plane of differentiation, begin each of them their evolutionary progress in contrary directions -- Spirit falling gradually into matter, and the latter ascending to its original condition, that of a pure spiritual substance. Both are inseparable, yet ever separated. In polarity, on the physical plane, two like poles will always repel each other, while the negative and the positive are mutually attracted; so do Spirit and Matter stand to each other -- the two poles of the same homogeneous substance, the root-principle of the universe.


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Nowadays, Buddhism is little more than a thing of tradition in most parts of Asia, and "Mahayana" has degenerated into a system of worship and prayer to numerous Buddhas and Bodhisattvas that hope, fear and superstition have populated the cosmos with. Ignorant of the Buddha's Teachings about Karma and the importance of developing spiritual self-reliance, people weak-mindedly turn for help and salvation to celestial beings. They imagine Buddhas and Bodhisattvas as remote from them -- somewhere in the sky, perhaps -- similar to the deities of other religions. And so, they miss the whole point of the Buddha"s parting injunction: "Work out your own salvation with diligence". Enlightenment is an intimate inner experience, not something that comes to us from outside


[link to www.budsas.org]