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IBEX shows interstellar wind flowing from the same location as Ophiuchus Serpentarius (13th Zodiac)

 
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Many thanks Op for interesting subject bumppeace
Stickyfoot,i think i stepped in something
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I just realized that the average GLPer would have no idea what IBEX or interstellar wind much less be able to understand why this is even extremely interesting. Nor would the majority of people care since there's no sex, lies or conflicts here to entertain them. But that's fine.

Much of the universe is invisible to our eyes but that doesn't mean we have to be blind. Just a shame most people choose to be blind and see only what they choose to see. To those that have eyes, they will see.
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Many thanks Op for interesting subject bumppeace
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This thread on its own may be interesting but it makes more sense if you've read any of my other threads about interstellar clouds and the petroglyph thread. Most of the pieces are there, just need to be able to understand how they fit together and then maybe you'll get a glimpse of what happened in the past and what is most likely in the process of happening now. But due to the complexity and the amount of variables in play I doubt it ever happens the same way twice.
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While reading this topic, it dawned on me that 2000+ years ago, the atmosphere on this planet was much more oxygenated and of course smog was irrelevant. This enabled a much clearer view of our universe.

Many things were seen and transcribed, either on paper, or stone, or metals and even wood. To get the proper explanation of what these symbols, etc., mean, we only have a few elders who can give us clues to what they mean as all ancient knowledge has been destroyed by TPTB in order to quell the truth of who we really are.

These winds coming in are heavenly and known as the photon belt. When we reach the other side of this belt we will be in heaven, or at least, heaven on Earth. As we traverse within this belt, our consciousness is being raised and awareness of truth is permeating the populace.

Liars are having a much harder time getting through to people. People's hypnotic states are being subverted by the energies pouring in. This is a great miracle from the one, true, benevolent, loving, God.

We are all a part of the oneness of all that is and the sooner the dark souls realize this and surrender to the light, the sooner we can become the galactic citizens we all are and end this matrix reality.
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Funny how a liar has the gall to call others liars... All beliefs are lies, you can't even spell belief without the word lie. I don't really care for people who use my work to validate their delusional beliefs. You can't even be original, your drivel is just a remix of lies others have created. No belief EVER matches up with reality, if they did they would be called facts and knowledge. True information that accurately reflects reality, not some wishful thinking that has no basis in reality.

It's people like you who distort and destroy truths in favour of beliefs to begin with. The thing about truth is that you can't 'quell' it, you can only distort it and break it apart, mix in lies to confuse people. Maybe one day you and the others will understand how destructive your beliefs really are, to you and everyone who trusts you to believe those lies.

As if anyone needed to hide the truth when you all hide from it so well yourselves.
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I find it really difficult to find anything else that is of relevance other than what you have already posted. But the serpent is a give away sign that there must have been something of importance in that area to the ancients...

:inflow:
 Quoting: Nacht im Walde


I'm not suggesting anything else. Just that the place of the 13th zodiac and the new IBEX discovery are exactly the same. I didn't know we even had a 13th one... Something must've happened in ancient times that caused people to see filaments of plasma which they referred to as serpents and dragons. If it normally doesn't glow, something has to make it more dense in order for it to glow and be seen with our eyes. Much more denser. Perhaps a dense plasma cloud? Streaming in from the heliosphere and into our solar system, unseen and invisible for now. Pushing the heliosphere inwards and making it shrink, causing more cosmic rays to reach Earth and the magnetosphere.
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Or we are talking about the Blazar or GRB that PSSZZZZ mentioned in his famous thread.
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I find it really difficult to find anything else that is of relevance other than what you have already posted. But the serpent is a give away sign that there must have been something of importance in that area to the ancients...

:inflow:
 Quoting: Nacht im Walde


I'm not suggesting anything else. Just that the place of the 13th zodiac and the new IBEX discovery are exactly the same. I didn't know we even had a 13th one... Something must've happened in ancient times that caused people to see filaments of plasma which they referred to as serpents and dragons. If it normally doesn't glow, something has to make it more dense in order for it to glow and be seen with our eyes. Much more denser. Perhaps a dense plasma cloud? Streaming in from the heliosphere and into our solar system, unseen and invisible for now. Pushing the heliosphere inwards and making it shrink, causing more cosmic rays to reach Earth and the magnetosphere.
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Or we are talking about the Blazar or GRB that PSSZZZZ mentioned in his famous thread.
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I find it really difficult to find anything else that is of relevance other than what you have already posted. But the serpent is a give away sign that there must have been something of importance in that area to the ancients...

:inflow:
 Quoting: Nacht im Walde


the serpent in the garden of eden was believed to be the real teacher/christ by some branches of gnosticism
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I find it really difficult to find anything else that is of relevance other than what you have already posted. But the serpent is a give away sign that there must have been something of importance in that area to the ancients...

inflow
 Quoting: Nacht im Walde


I'm not suggesting anything else. Just that the place of the 13th zodiac and the new IBEX discovery are exactly the same. I didn't know we even had a 13th one... Something must've happened in ancient times that caused people to see filaments of plasma which they referred to as serpents and dragons. If it normally doesn't glow, something has to make it more dense in order for it to glow and be seen with our eyes. Much more denser. Perhaps a dense plasma cloud? Streaming in from the heliosphere and into our solar system, unseen and invisible for now. Pushing the heliosphere inwards and making it shrink, causing more cosmic rays to reach Earth and the magnetosphere.
 Quoting: Plasmare


Or we are talking about the Blazar or GRB that PSSZZZZ mentioned in his famous thread.
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Thread: Dense interstellar space clouds (like the one we're entering) and you, what will happen? Can cause magnetic reversal.

In theory it is possible. If there was a huge amount of electromagnetic radiation that happened to be passing through a section of the cloud, and is dense enough, it could be ignited. Just like our laser experiments on earth with fusion, we use lasers to ignite a plasma that is billions and trillions of degrees. It's always a possibility, no matter how small.

This would be the equivalent of the perfect storm, just the right space environmental conditions and timing of the burst(s). There is no way to predict a GRB or the passage of a cloud. Cloud passages are rare in themselves, happening only a couple of hundred times in the history of the earth, although they can last for hundreds of thousands of years, depending on how large they are. Dense clouds are estimated to only have occurred less than 50 times.

Not many people actually understand how cosmic rays have influenced and affected evolution on earth... Evolution experiences "bursts" which no one can explain and those bursts tend to come with a substantial rise in cosmic ray. Since cosmic rays are constantly showering on us, we're surrounded by the radiation and radiation is THE only thing that induces mutations in DNA. So consider that cosmic rays have provided the planet with the radiation needed to create mutations which cause living things to evolve. Then you'll see that these coincidental bursts of cosmic rays and the burst of evolutions are linked.

So all in all, a GRB from a theoretical object like a blazar (they label it but have no idea what they are) may give us a nice light show but won't really affect us in any way. However the heliosphere shrinking to beyond our orbit will have a huge impact on everything from weather to DNA mutation.

A changing solar environment will cause a changing terrestrial environment, it's pretty simple. How long have we been facing climate change??? The solar environment and space weather is a major contributor of the climate and weather systems on earth. Some people just want you to believe that humans are the only contributor to the changing climate but the fact is we're just a tiny part of it.
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I find it really difficult to find anything else that is of relevance other than what you have already posted. But the serpent is a give away sign that there must have been something of importance in that area to the ancients...

inflow
 Quoting: Nacht im Walde


the serpent in the garden of eden was believed to be the real teacher/christ by some branches of gnosticism
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Serpents are the one myth that permeates throughout the entire world and all cultures. Yet I don't think people were really that scared or bothered about snakes all around the world. The image or symbol of a serpent is everywhere in myth and religion. Ophiuchus is supposed to be the origin of the healing symbol of the snake and staff which serves as the symbol for doctors and pharma today.

The relevance is that the exact same point as this 13th zodiac is the only place where interstellar matter flows into our solar system. It is the only point. Something must have flowed into the solar system in the past from there. Something people saw in the skies. Something that was visible and moving. Yet all the plasma streaming in now is invisible to us.
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Nibiru is what they saw..SmileyWink
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Nibiru is what they saw..SmileyWink
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Nibiru is a made up planet with no basis in reality, since planets don't just roam the universe. Just another case of a person trying to make information fit their belief system. Square peg, round hole, it'll never fit properly but maybe if you push it in hard enough it'll fit into your view of how reality should be.
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Hey, The 13th zodiac sign was created when the Chilean earthquake happend because the earth shifted off its axis. So, someone came up with the 13th sign to fit. Thats what I heard..
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Thats what you heard? Now doesn't that just beat all. Is that like saying I saw it an the internet therefore it must be true.
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Nibiru is what they saw..SmileyWink
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Nibiru is a made up planet with no basis in reality, since planets don't just roam the universe. Just another case of a person trying to make information fit their belief system. Square peg, round hole, it'll never fit properly but maybe if you push it in hard enough it'll fit into your view of how reality should be.
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Actually planets DO just roam the Universe. There's rouge planets all over the place. Just not in OUR SOLAR SYSTEM. Two different things.
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Nibiru is what they saw..SmileyWink
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12652226


Nibiru is a made up planet with no basis in reality, since planets don't just roam the universe. Just another case of a person trying to make information fit their belief system. Square peg, round hole, it'll never fit properly but maybe if you push it in hard enough it'll fit into your view of how reality should be.
 Quoting: Plasmare


Actually planets DO just roam the Universe. There's rouge planets all over the place. Just not in OUR SOLAR SYSTEM. Two different things.
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Just like pluto, the word planets doesn't really apply to these objects but you are right, after looking into it. And there are no such objects in our heliosphere. Also rogue planets don't look like serpents or glow...
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Hey, The 13th zodiac sign was created when the Chilean earthquake happend because the earth shifted off its axis. So, someone came up with the 13th sign to fit. Thats what I heard..
 Quoting: Epicbiscuit


Thats what you heard? Now doesn't that just beat all. Is that like saying I saw it an the internet therefore it must be true.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4777394


If you actually look into the 13th zodiac you'd see that originally there were 13 zodiacs and the babylonians made it into 12 for their religious beliefs and since they were a dominant civilization it was adopted by everyone else. The hindus apparently still use 13 zodiacs to this day. I'm not that interested in astrology but there is plenty of information about the subject and explain why the two different main astrology systems differ so much and why the 12 zodiac system fails after a long time compared to the 13 zodiac aka sidereal zodiac. The biggest difference is that the current 12 zodiacal system has nothing to do with the stars and constellations anymore because of the movement of our solar system.
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Getting ready for the ena ribbon op?
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In ancient Egyptian mythology the world was created by four powers, one of which was the sun god Amun-Ra who took the form of a snake and emerged from the water to inseminated the cosmic egg, the kneph, which was created by the other gods. In another story, a god named Hathor transformed himself into a poisonous snake called Agep and killed Seth. He also guarded the wheat fields where the spirit of Horus was said to live, bringing the sheaf of wheat to be regarded as the symbol of rebirth.

In Greek mythology Zeus freed two eagles which met at the centre of the world, sometimes called the navel of the earth, which is guarded by a snake called Pytho. The symbol Serpens Candivorens, a snake biting its tail, represents the unending cycle of nature between destruction, and new creation, life and death. The Greeks called this figure Ouroboros. Chinese mythology maintained that the world was surrounded by two entwined snakes, which symbolized the power and wisdom of the creator. In another legend the Buddha was attacked by a snake which bound itself seven times around his waist. Due to the inner strength of the Buddha, the snake could not kill him but instead became his follower.

 Quoting: Plasmare


Notice all the snakes. A primal fear. A common mask and symbol for the shadow. That about ourselves which we are afraid to confront, symbolized by our inherent reaction.

It seems to me a strong cultural difference in how change, chaos, and rebirth are able to be perceived.

Think of the Abrahamic view of the serpent, offering knowledge of good and evil, a trick in being blind to objectivity, and assuming/being trapped in perspective.

Very interesting post. Cheers.
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I guess it would be quite a sight to see the Aurora Borealis even near the equator...

Imagine seeing things like these from anywhere on earth:

[link to www.google.com]



This article made me think of this thread as well.

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Great point, there's your dragons and snakes for ya!!
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What a great thread, found it out on gooogle while looking up info on GRB's and Orphuichus Constellation.
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I wish I could embed this image, but this is really strange. The new IBEX finding shows the interstellar wind is flowing into our solar system from this exact area. Above scorpio and between libra and saggitarius.

[link to i.space.com]

I just happened to come across this tidbit of information which points to that EXACT spot IBEX has identified as being the entry point of the interstellar wind.

Astrologers, or those interested in the historical development of astrology, will point out that some systems include a thirteenth sign of the zodiac known as Ophiuchus Serpentarius, the Serpent Holder. This constellation lies between Sagittarius and Libra, somewhat over Scorpio. In the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries this constellation was called Alpheichius. Known as the "God of Invocation", this house was named after the legendary healer, Ophiuchus (Asclepius). The two serpents in his hands later replaced the twin ribbons around the caduceus which became a symbol for physicians. Plato called this thirteenth sign "the god of the underworld".


I didn't even know there was a 13th zodiac.
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Bumping for anyone who cares about such a great coincidence. Adding links to images for comparison, since I can't embed, feel free to embed members.

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[link to www.astralnewz.com]
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Excellent OP. Fascinating.
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Doesn't it make you wonder why "they" removed the 13th zodiac from the consciousness of the majority? Why horoscopes are in every newspaper, as if to reinforce the 12 zodiacs. Even if people don't believe in it, they are still repeatedly exposed to them in their lives.

I say "they" because zodiacs don't just vanish and no single person can make it happen. Logically there has to be a reason why this zodiac was removed from our awareness for such a long time.
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Nostradamus was right again:


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I wish I could embed this image, but this is really strange. The new IBEX finding shows the interstellar wind is flowing into our solar system from this exact area. Above scorpio and between libra and saggitarius.

[link to i.space.com]

I just happened to come across this tidbit of information which points to that EXACT spot IBEX has identified as being the entry point of the interstellar wind.

Astrologers, or those interested in the historical development of astrology, will point out that some systems include a thirteenth sign of the zodiac known as Ophiuchus Serpentarius, the Serpent Holder. This constellation lies between Sagittarius and Libra, somewhat over Scorpio. In the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries this constellation was called Alpheichius. Known as the "God of Invocation", this house was named after the legendary healer, Ophiuchus (Asclepius). The two serpents in his hands later replaced the twin ribbons around the caduceus which became a symbol for physicians. Plato called this thirteenth sign "the god of the underworld".


I didn't even know there was a 13th zodiac.
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Bumping for anyone who cares about such a great coincidence. Adding links to images for comparison, since I can't embed, feel free to embed members.

[link to www.nasa.gov]

[link to www.astralnewz.com]
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