Seeking advice for home defense handgun.

So you think "elite units" make bad choices in firearms?

Anyhoooo... Do some research. Google is your friend.

well, at least Google USED to be your friend. Or at least PRETENDED to be your friend... lol.


Excerpt from Wiki in reference to Glock:

"commanding 65% of the market share of handguns for United States law enforcement agencies, as well as supplying numerous national armed forces, security agencies, and law enforcement agencies in 48 countries.

The only thing I have ever really heard people bitch about is the fact that the s&w have a heavier trigger but for half the price I can pay to get the trigger fixed

Is this the gun yall are talking about?
[link to www.smith-wesson.com]

That's what 15 round clips were made for.

By the way, if you are not a big guy, with big hands, get yourself the Glock 19. It's the more compact version of the 17, and holds 15 rounds.

Thanks

Thats the next gun I plan on buying what barrel size did you get?

Yea, it a nice gun...

I am going to have to get one and compare it to the glock.

No this is the one right here

[link to www.smith-wesson.com]

Get the Glock.

I haven't seen patdeez84 give one good piece of advice, since he joined the forum.

Seen one hell of a lot of stupid come out of him though.

You WILL NOT go wrong with a Glock. And like I ad before, check into the G19. It's smaller than the 17, but not one of those compact Glocks. It's JUST RIGHT for a 5'6" dude.

I'm 6' and I love mine.

what about the sigma do you like more than the M&P and the g17 or g19? Is it just the price? Because I'll be honest, I HATE the way that sigma looks, lol. I know I didn't say I cared about appearance, but shit..

Middle one in the vid, the "ultra lite" but with a shrouded hammer. Only fires the 2 1/2 410's but for how light it is that's a good thing.

Last Edited by Chrit on 02/04/2012 12:19 AM

hmm, a LOT of people haaaaaaave been suggesting the glock. I like the way those M&P's look a LOT, but I know I can't go wrong with a glock..

Elite units can select firearms based on personal preference, that does not extend to glock, I guarantee that.
Elite units know exactly what weapon is the best for the job.

I have never seen a NATO army that issues Glock as the standard sidearm, but I have seen lots of law enforcement use them.With the exception of some smaller Euro forces.

In my experience, the majority of law enforcement agents, regardless of the agency they work for, are far from "experts" on firearms.Not to say all, but a lot.They are lucky if hey don't shoot themselves in the foot when trying to pass their yearly qualification ( for the second or third try).Also the politicians purchase the pistols, not the people using them.We all know how smart they are.

You are a cop.

Glock sucks

lol

Yes the sigmas are ugly but they are good guns and for what your going to pay for one glock you can get a 9mm and a .40 in the sigmas for about the same price.

Last Edited by patdeez84 on 02/04/2012 12:20 AM

Ok, lets say I am going to get EITHER a g19 or a smith and wesson M&P:

as in this one:
[link to www.smith-wesson.com]

Is the glock better in any way than that gun? Because if they're the same and similar prices, I really like the appearance of the M&P more. BUT, if the glock is better, I'll go glock.

make it a pump action shotgun

So. You plan to dress up when your home invasion is going down.

"Glocks are so ugly, - cant be seen with a 'brick'"

WTF???? Do you want a functioning handgun, or do you want to die in style?

I have both a Beretta (.380 Auto) and a Glock (Mod 22, .40 cal).. I think I'm going to pick up the Glock when things matter that much ...

Shit. Function over form at this point ... Sheeeesh ...

It really comes down to preference if you live near a gun range that rents guns go check them out and shoot them both and see which one you like better

well over 1000 round through the Glock 19 I use to have...not one single jam or fail to feed.

Traded it off for a Glock 26 to have something smaller as a carry weapon... only 200 or so rounds through it so far and no problem yet.

Maybe this doesn't apply to you... but the majority of people I have met that "hate Glocks" are equivalent to the "hipsters" when it comes to music.

If it's popular and people like it... then it's "shitty" and "awful." They are the kinds of people that want to be seen as "original" and "outside of the box" so they appear more knowledgable about guns.

In terms of reliability, ease of breakdown, weight, and accuracy... arguing that a Glock "sucks" is stupid. Not to mention they don't have the fail to feed issue with hollow-points that many guns have because of the way the barrel (and thus the ramp) slopes downward when the slide comes back. (Many other companies are mimicking this design too for that reason).

If you can provide me with significant evidence as to why you think they suck then I might give a shit... and no, you telling me that you know a guy who knows a guy who's Glock jammed on him and because of that he got butt-raped by an Indonesian tranny does not constitute significant evidence.

Since you are on GLP, I'll throw this out there.

Lawenforcemnt & a lot of civilians carry glocks. In a scenario, there would be plenty of parts available.

Good point. Alright guys, I'm pretty sure I've decided to either get the G19 or the M&P 9mm. I'm gonna try to find a firing range that will let me handle each of them so I can decide.

Last question and I'll let you guys go. Laser sight and or light, should I consider one for home defense? I'm kind of paranoid I'd shine the light in my eyes by accident and blind myself...

Thanks a ton for all yall's help by the way. Much appreciated.

fucking hell, lol. I think I'll pass on one of those

the shotgun will be under your bed, the pistol will be something you can carry daily and probably be what you use if something happens.

i agree with the argentinian in the rifle thread, glock 19 is a great model. 9mm is a common calibre, its cheap to shoot, the glock 19 is fairly small and concealable, its light and very solid, so it will very likely be a handgun you would carry daily if needed but its big enough to perform on pair with a full size handgun. 15 rounds standard in the clip, can inrease to 17, and with a small enough grip to fit all hands (unlike the larger calibers).

You'll be able to get that "Red Rider' BB gun next year for Christmas, son.

Go to bed ... it's way past your bedtime .. c'mon - the adults are talkin now ...

IF the light on your gun is shining on your face, you have bigger problems to deal with. All fun aside...

You need a light more then you need a laser. ( My opinion). Get a pressure activated button on the light so you can turn it on and off with ease.

I've never seen a point to lasers on a handgun... if it's dark (like it will likely be in a home defense situation).... you will have no idea what you are suppose to put the laser on...

I'd suggest night-sights and a light. For Glocks.. the Glock brand light is $100.. but you can find other brands at a cheaper price. Night sights will run you about $100 too...

Alright, thanks a lot!

I want one.. just for the fun factor... but at over $2 a round... I wouldn't be using it a lot... lol