We are NOT Gods... There Is Only ONE God <<< His name Is Jesus Christ The Lord >>>

OK! YOU RODE ALL THE WAY HERE TO SAY THAT? GEEYAAA!


Sandi follow the trail why I rebuked you.You SPOKE AGAINST MY MESSIAH AS HIGHLIGHTED ABOVE.

Aww thanks for the flowers!

I know its gonna take time to mend, and I can't wait. I'm grateful tho that the hard part (the surgery) is finally behide me.

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Matthew 12:32
Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven

Okay, good on you. You are clearly a person of good intentions and strong convictions.

With respect, you may benefit by not allowing your energies to be wasted by being sucked into these incessant little argument whirlpools that can lead nowhere but down, by focusing them on the task at hand by gently guiding the seeker towards the Truth, and being there to help when requested. IMO. Prayers and love help too, no doubt.

You must be strong the bare the weight of the World on your shoulders.

Cheers,

Oh, Mary, Mary, Mary! You are so silly.

So you didn't call my cakes strange... but you openly mocked my turn of phrase earlier. You constantly try to draw the pressure off of having to answer the facts by trying to denigrate the way I reply. Then you try to pretend that you've never insulted me. You're a trainwreck. Seriously.

As far as the eucharist goes, can't answer for Lisa, but Jesus said, "This do in REMEMBRANCE of me". It's supposed to be a remembrance, not a pretense of genuine flesh eating and blood drinking. The Catholic church as it stands denies the remembrance in favor of genuine cannibalism. Do you truly think that jesus intended full on cannibalism?? I suspect the fairy tale writers would roll in their graves if they knew that millions of people were actually believing they were performing REAL CANNIBALISM as a result of their storytelling. Disturbing!

Remembrance... not cannibalism.

Now, as we all know, I think even the symbology of it is horribly disgusting. But to REALLY believe that you're gobbling the flesh of your godling and guzzling his blood... pretty sick. And not what the bible says. The bible says do it in REMEMBRANCE, not in cannibalism.

As far as "go to confession", I will never bother. God knows everything I do, and I am intimately connected to God at all times. I don't need anyone else to tell God what I've done.

God doesn't need any priest to tell him what you've done, sweetcheeks. Nor does God expect you to say a rosary... Jesus even said not to pray with vain repetition, so you're violating jesus' own words by doing it as your 'penance' for your sins.

Silliness.

God guides to truth. Guiding to truth is not my job. I am not allowed to share truth, unless specifically asked for it directly by a genuine seeker. Sometimes I err in my judgment and throw the ol' pearls... but even then, I believe that the Truth goes where God directs.

You may feel that my energies are being wasted, and that's your right. But it is my adamant knowledge that love is never wasted, and exposing lies is love for the Seeker.

As far as being strong? I'm often told that I am, by virtue of having survived this world so far and all it has offered up to me. But ultimately, it requires no strength, for the Real God comforts me. And when I escaped Christianity, I learned that It has always comforted me. If I am strong, it is not of my own doing, of that, you can be certain.

God Bless you Troubled Waters you are a Light in the darkness.

But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:

In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus' sake.

For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.

But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.

We are troubled on every side, yet not distressed; we are perplexed, but not in despair;

Persecuted, but not forsaken; cast down, but not destroyed;
2Co 4:3-9

Lisa, that is questionable advice based on Jesus' teachings.

By calling people trolls - Are you judging?

Why not just turn the other cheek?

You blocked me once when I corrected you on biblical matters.

In doing so you proved the points I was making.

The point is under Jesus' teachings everyone is entitled to on opinion.

Jesus even allows people to criticise him, just not the holy spirit.

The test being placed before Christians is do they truly follow Jesus' teachings. Can they "Turn the other cheek"?

These threads give ALL people the opportunity to speak out and learn.

I only quote scripture to make my points. Others attack people more personally.

I guess the question OP should ask is "What would Jesus do in the same situation"?

From my understanding of scripture he would allow people to continue to debate.

I hope OP Makes the right decision.

You're entitled to your opinion, but I disagree.

so God has such little faith in you as a person that on top of allowing you to be born you have to accept somebody else as the gateway to him, even though there's evidence that the person who they have called Jesus is a regurgitated story from previous civilizations. And you cannot go to this so called heaven unless you accept that he is the son of god and follow this Jesus that has changed name and face over history. This is the same history that has changed the name of the socities that are now known as Africa and Egypt to hide the truth about them.

Ok I think I've got it.

Another point to add is that when brothers and sisters only post to criticize, I have to stop and wonder why. There are a handful of faithful brothers and sisters here that tirelessly post messages of the Gospels and Salvation, sticking their necks out everyday only to get slammed, cursed at, spit on and slandered. It's to be expected, and we put up with a ton of it on a daily basis.

But, when a brother or sister comes along and throws slop, you have to wonder which team they are really on.

I did a quick search of the threads that you've started in the last year here, and I found none that witness or glorify God. Only 2 threads you started and one was asking for an alien (demon) intervention and the other was something equally unimportant. Where's your hard work? Where's all the patience and tolerance? Where's all your threads?

Where's your witness here friend? Stop looking at the speck in your brothers eye when there is a log in your own.

Yahoshua was The Nazoraion they never ate flesh. The New Covenant is drinking his blood, that is the fruit of the vine and eating his flesh that is bread. That is eating his flesh and drinking his blood.

ya'll need to get on some Malachi York and get on with this BS Jesus stuff...

Jesus is not God , how many times do I have to keep telling you that. Christ Michael of Nebadan, is our Creator Father. You are worshiping false Gods. Jesus is the only begotten son. That makes him a dual origin being. Part man ,part God. Adonai

GOD himself saved us, see verses below.

Blessed be the Lord God of Israel; for he hath visited and redeemed his people,
Luke 1:68

And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
I John 5:20

He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. He came to his own, and his own received him not. John 1:10-11

"When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. Then he placed his right hand on me and said: ‘Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last.’" Rev. 1:17

To the angel of the church in Smyrna write: These are the words of him who is the First and the Last, who died and came to life again. Rev. 2:8,

And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached to the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. 1 Tim 3:16

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. John 1:1-3

For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the WORD, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
1John 5:7

And the WORD was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
John 1:14
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Strengthened with all might, according to his glorious power, unto all patience and longsuffering with joyfulness;

Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:

Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son: In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:

Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.

For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell; And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.

And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:
Colossians 1:11-22
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Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.

And of some have compassion, making a difference:

And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.

Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,

To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.
Jude 1:21-25

Thank you Father, Thank you Jesus.
God bless you all!
Love in Christ, Cassie

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Cassie, God bless you! You tied it all together perfectly.

Jesus is who brings the light. Last time he brought the truth he was pinned to a cross by the very people in charge today. Once we have the light our entire lives change from dull gray and sick to Bright, healthy, and full of light. People will find the light when they see enough hell. Threads like this are going to draw everyone and they should. WE are all in this together. I have nothing against atheist, "new age" which I still don't know what that term means. catholic, baptist etc.

God the creator spread us out for a reason. We all learn from each other.

Seriously Troubled Waters, what do people call New Age? I have my thoughts and some may say I am new age but Jesus is my rock. I do think it is wrong to pray to what ever alien is new to the scene. When we put our energy behind new characters we create them. God created everything on earth with energy. WE all vibrate with the Earths Schumann Resonance. I hope that is not what some call new age although some might say it is.

Peace and Love

I now understand why you call your self Lisa Lisa the second is an exasperated expression...lol

You sure are one to sit in judgement. I think you may need to reassess yourself.

I don't start threads because I just haven't got the time ... forgive me for that obvious sin!

You are upset because the Bible doesn't defend the dogma you present. That's OK 99% of the people I have met don't know their Bibles very well, and so have allowed churches and religions to twist the meanings of the words.

Some research the Bible through faith alone even though deep down they must realise it is a very flawed document.

Some use a more scientific and rational method.

It is actually a very hard task trying to undo false teachings, indoctrination and poor comprehension. But I try.

I could improve in the patience and tolerance area but when people continually misrepresent scripture even the most tolerant get annoyed. Ask Jesus about that! He was often annoyed.

Now this witness gobbledygook is a rubbish question. Most people who talk about witnessing are the indoctrinated people mentioned earlier.

Let's see people realising that they have been taught wrongly. Let's see people admitting they don't know. Let's see Christians being honest.

One of my previous posts summed it up very simply... but if you can't allow Jesus' own words to correct you then I'm afraid this continual cycle of correction will continue.

The simple fact is - AT NO STAGE did Jesus say "I am GOD"!

If you believe he is GOD then I really don't care. But the case against that position starting at the first commandment and then following Jesus' teachings is quite considerable.

The Catholics invented the trinity prior to the Council of Nicea and ratified by the Council of Nicea. It is simply a man made construct. It was decided so that a division between two senior bishops differing on this point helped Constantine cure a division in his country.

Therefore it was a political decision more than a scriptural based one!

That he allegedly said "I Am" means nothing... Try justifying your spiritual position with Jesus' words whilst on Earth and you are on the right track.

I have gone into oneness on this thread with direct quotes from Jesus... They are as plain as the nose on your face.

TO ignore them is the flaw in most Christians thinking.

32 And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him.

33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.

34 And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.
JOHN A PROPHET BEARS RECORD AND YOU HEATHENS STILL DENY THE WORDS OF THE BIBLE

35 Again the next day after John stood, and two of his disciples;

36 And looking upon Jesus as he walked, he saith, Behold the Lamb[son] of God[father]

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23 That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.

24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

43 Jesus therefore answered and said unto them, Murmur not among yourselves.

44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.
Isa 54:13

HOW COULD THIS NATION BE SO STUBBORN?

JOHN

JESUS SPEAKING HERE!
46 Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?

47 He that is of God[FATHER] heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God[THE FATHER]

how lost? how lost?

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UM Actually no she didn't. Cassie has used men's words (not Jesus') to justify her position and it doesn't stand up to reasonable analysis.

Luke 1:68 was spoken by Zacharias "a man" who was allegedly filled with the wholly spirit



Cassie, God bless you! You tied it all together perfectly.




UM Actually no she didn't. Cassie has used men's words (not Jesus') to justify her position and it doesn't stand up to reasonable analysis.

Jesus, the SON of GOD, whom if you believe you know definitely was full of the Holy Spirit said this

Mark 10:18 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but ONE, THAT IS, GOD.

and

John 5:37 Jesus says "And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape."

and

John 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

Come on now a Christian has to trust Jesus' word over man's words, don't they?

In your studies you must look back to see who is being quoted.

If it is a man... question it, because too many men have gotten it wrong.

If it is Jesus, and you believe in Jesus then there is more chance that it is accurate, although it still has the problem of men fiddling with the words.

Why are Christians so terrified of actually believing what Jesus said when he was on Earth?

You can quote men all day every day but I suspect you will learn more if you focus on what Jesus said.

Afterall Jesus = Christ = Christianity!

Just a reminder to those that love the Lord......the RCC is not a branch of Christianity......it is a different gospel ......and false.


More than likely the final pope will be the false prophet......the right hand man to the man of evil......and he will be looking to cut off the heads of we who love Christ.


It was in the 1530's that the Catholic Church arrested.....and then choked, impaled, and burnt William Tyndale. His crime......translating Scripture into English.

Many other reformers were also rounded up and killed.

It will happen again.




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This is a bit rough ... surely you can question the organisation and some of the people, but most Catholics I have met are good Godly people.

They may be blind to the history of their Church but so are most Christians!

Jesus is a slave cocept given to people to sit back and take the fact that they are being mistreated in this life. Some use it to become better, but most look at things being stored up for their future as a result of their current situation. Jesus does not save a person, you save you. Jesus will not say, "I got you and you don't have to do or change a thing". Why? Because you still have to change and make improvements in your life...

Why didn't Jesus rebuke Thomas for calling Him "God"?

The ever skeptical disciple, Thomas, was unconvinced that Jesus was resurrected and wanted to see direct proof.

After Jesus rose from the dead and appeared to him, his only reaction was "My Lord and my God!"

Thomas answered and said to Him, "My Lord and my God!" Jesus said to him, "Because you have seen Me, have you believed? Blessed are they who did not see, and yet believed." (John 20:28-29)

If Jesus were not God, accepting such a statement for truth would be a grievous sin. Either Jesus is God or He would have to be a sinner!

Grievous sin?...

34Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?

35If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;

36Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest;

because

I said,

I am the Son of God? (John 10)





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Cassie, God bless you! You tied it all together perfectly.




Yet we know that Jesus was GOOD and without sin.

Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power: Col 2: 8-10

For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
2 Corinthians 5:21,

Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth:
1 Peter 2:22,

For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.
Hebrews 4:15,

And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin. 1 John 3:5,

So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
Hebrews 9:28,

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Okay, I finally get it: whoever posts the most Bible quotes wins.

that's what it seems...