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We are NOT Gods... There Is Only ONE God <<< His name Is Jesus Christ The Lord >>>

 
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IF GOD would just heal the sick and lame, feed the starving, stop all human and animal suffering, and stop humans being so destructive, atheists might believe...

Well maybe the Kingdom of Heaven already belongs to Atheists!
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There goes Mark....


Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God,

15And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.

(Mark 1)



and John...


John 3:15
That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.


You are running out of scripture.




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IF GOD would just heal the sick and lame, feed the starving, stop all human and animal suffering, and stop humans being so destructive, atheists might believe...

Well maybe the Kingdom of Heaven already belongs to Atheists!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1190661






There goes Mark....


Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God,

15And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.

(Mark 1)



and John...


John 3:15
That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.


You are running out of scripture.




^^
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funny that Christians don't believe their 'messiah'

huh

haha==>>WHAT???
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IF GOD would just heal the sick and lame, feed the starving, stop all human and animal suffering, and stop humans being so destructive, atheists might believe...

Well maybe the Kingdom of Heaven already belongs to Atheists!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1190661






There goes Mark....


Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God,

15And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.

(Mark 1)



and John...


John 3:15
That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.


You are running out of scripture.


 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 1071051


funny that Christians don't believe their 'messiah'

huh

haha==>>WHAT???
 Quoting: RTS REDUX





funny

and

sad




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IF GOD would just heal the sick and lame, feed the starving, stop all human and animal suffering, and stop humans being so destructive, atheists might believe...

Well maybe the Kingdom of Heaven already belongs to Atheists!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1190661






There goes Mark....


Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God,

15And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.

(Mark 1)



and John...


John 3:15
That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.


You are running out of scripture.


 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 1071051


funny that Christians don't believe their 'messiah'

huh

haha==>>WHAT???
 Quoting: RTS REDUX





funny

and

sad




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yes..yes it is

Hebrews 10:26
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Hebrews 10:26
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26For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,



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To those who throw out Scripture:


Your attempts to discredit Scripture are meaningless to those of us here who love the Lord. He rose from the dead. He is alive. He knocks on the door of people's hearts.


He Himself showed me that I was lost......before I even opened a Bible. My wife showed me only one verse....."Marvel not, you must be born again".......and I gave my life to Him.


God's Spirit then immediately came inside of me......and continues there 24 years later. "The Spirit bears witness with our spirit that we our children of God."


This is not because of anything good that I have done. There is really nothing good about me.....except God's Spirit now living inside of me. It is just because of His grace.....and mercy.....that this happened.


The disciples followed Christ for several years and did not understand the Scriptures. It was only until Christ rose from the dead and was walking with them that "He opened their understanding, that they might comprehend the Scriptures." (Luke 24: 45)


The Pharisees and Scribes debated....studied....and felt they knew Scripture......that they knew God. And they had the Romans arrest their Messiah.....and put him to death.


Christ Himself has also foretold that most will continue to reject Him.......and only a few will come to Him.


You do not find God by winning an intellectual debate.....like you are in debate class in school. He in fact is the one who will find you. Christ is the seeker. A person need only open the door to Him. He will not force His way in.


Hundreds of variations.....ways to bypass Christ.....have been offered.....and continue to be offered.


Ask God sincerely....on a 1:1 basis.... to show you the truth
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To those who throw out Scripture:


Your attempts to discredit Scripture are meaningless to those of us here who love the Lord. He rose from the dead. He is alive. He knocks on the door of people's hearts.


He Himself showed me that I was lost......before I even opened a Bible. My wife showed me only one verse....."Marvel not, you must be born again".......and I gave my life to Him.


God's Spirit then immediately came inside of me......and continues there 24 years later. "The Spirit bears witness with our spirit that we our children of God."


This is not because of anything good that I have done. There is really nothing good about me.....except God's Spirit now living inside of me. It is just because of His grace.....and mercy.....that this happened.


The disciples followed Christ for several years and did not understand the Scriptures. It was only until Christ rose from the dead and was walking with them that "He opened their understanding, that they might comprehend the Scriptures." (Luke 24: 45)


The Pharisees and Scribes debated....studied....and felt they knew Scripture......that they knew God. And they had the Romans arrest their Messiah.....and put him to death.


Christ Himself has also foretold that most will continue to reject Him.......and only a few will come to Him.


You do not find God by winning an intellectual debate.....like you are in debate class in school. He in fact is the one who will find you. Christ is the seeker. A person need only open the door to Him. He will not force His way in.


Hundreds of variations.....ways to bypass Christ.....have been offered.....and continue to be offered.


Ask God sincerely....on a 1:1 basis.... to show you the truth
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consider 'some' *cough* REQUIREMENTS pursuant to Christians

true or false?

Necessity of Christian Suffering

1 Thessalonians 3:3
“So that no one would be disturbed by these afflictions; for you yourselves know that we have been destined for this.”

Philippians 4:14
“You have done well to share with me in these afflictions.”

1 Peter 4:13
“To the degree that you share the sufferings of Christ, keep on rejoicing.”

2 Timothy 1:8
“Join with me in suffering for the gospel according to the power of God.”

2 Corinthians 1:7
“Our hope for you is fully grounded, knowing that as you are sharers of our sufferings, so are you sharers of our comfort.”

2 Corinthians 7:4
“I am overflowing with joy in all our affliction.”

2 Corinthians 4:17
“For momentary light affliction is producing for us an eternal weight of glory far beyond all comparison.”

Matthew 10:38
“Whoever does not take up his cross and follow after me is not worthy of me.”

James 4:9
“Be miserable and mourn and weep; let your laughter be turned into mourning and your joy to gloom.”

Romans 8:16-17
“The spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are children of God. And if children, heirs also, heirs of God and fellow heirs with Christ if indeed we suffer with him so that we may also be glorified with him.”

Philippians 3:10
“So that I may know him and the power of his resurrection and the fellowship of his sufferings, being conformed to his death; in order that I may attain to the resurrection from the dead.”

1 Peter 2:20-21
“If when you do what is right and suffer for it, you patiently endure it, this finds favor with God. For you have been called for this purpose, since Christ also suffered for you, leaving an example for you to follow in his steps.”

Philippians 1:29
“For to you it has been granted for Christ’s sake, not only to believe in him, but also to suffer for his sake.”

Romans 5:3
“Not only that, but we even boast of our afflictions, knowing that our affliction produces endurance.”

1 Kings 18:28-29
“So they cried with a loud voice and cut themselves according to their custom with swords and lances until the blood gushed out on them. When midday was passed, they raved until the time of the evening sacrifice; but there was no voice, no one answered, and no one paid attention.”

1 John 3:16
“We ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.”

2 Corinthians 11:20
“You tolerate it if anyone enslaves you, anyone devours you, anyone takes advantage of you, anyone exalts himself, anyone hits you in the face. To my shame I must say we have been weak by comparison.”

Matthew 5:10-11
“Blessed are those who have been persecuted for the sake of righteousness for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are you when people insult you and persecute you and say all kinds of evil about you because of me.”

Mark 4:17
“When affliction or persecution arises because of the word, immediately they fall away.”

2 Corinthians 12:9-10
“…Power is perfected in weakness…therefore I am well content with weaknesses, with insults…”

2 Timothy 3:12
Indeed all who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus will be persecuted.”

2 Timothy 2:3
“Suffer hardship with me, as a good soldier of Christ Jesus.”

Hebrews 12:8
“But if you are without discipline, of which all have been partakers, then you are illegitimate children and not sons.”

2 Corinthians 1:5
“For just as the sufferings of Christ are ours in abundance.”

1 Corinthians 4:11-16
“To this present hour we are both hungry and thirsty and are poorly clothed, and are roughly treated, and are homeless; and we toil, working with our hands; when we are reviled we bless; when we are persecuted, we endure; when we are slandered, we try to conciliate; we have become as the scum of the world, the dregs of all things even until now. I do not write these things to shame you, but to admonish you…therefore I exhort you, be imitators of me.”

1 Corinthians 9:27
“I discipline my body and make it my slave, so that after I have preached to others I myself will not be disqualified.”

Acts 5:40-41
“After calling the Apostles in, they flogged them, and ordered them not to speak in the name of Jesus, and then released them. So they went on their way from the presence of the council, rejoicing that they had been considered worthy to suffer shame for his name.”

James 5:10-11
“As an example, brethren of suffering and patience, take the prophets who spoke in the name of the Lord. We count those blessed who endured. You have heard about the endurance of Job and have seen the outcome of the Lord’s dealings, that the Lord is full of compassion and merciful.”

2 Thessalonians 1:4-5
“We ourselves speak proudly of you among the churches of God for your perseverance and faith in the midst of all your persecutions and afflictions which you endure. This is a plain indication of God’s righteous judgment so that you will be considered worthy of the kingdom of God , for which you are indeed suffering.”

1 Peter 3:14
“If you should suffer for the sake of righteousness you are blessed.”

Hebrews 11:37-39
“They were stoned, they were sawn in two, they were tempted, they were put to death with the sword; they went about in sheepskins, in goatskins, being destitute, afflicted, ill treated… wandering in deserts and mountains and caves and holes in the ground, And all these having gained approval through their faith, did not receive what was promised.”
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I thought jesus was the son of god,not god himself.
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Therefore one has to seriously question the value of Paul's teachings.



BUT WAIT! Paul was promoted when his letters were placed in what we now call the Bible.
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lol...



You discard all of Paul.

Therefore Acts.

Therefore Luke.

Therefore Peter.

You called the Psalms 'alleged'.

You don't seem to understand that Jesus' words were written by a MAN...

And I trust Jesus' words more than any man's words even the men in the BIBLE.


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Seriously- What's left in your 'Bible"






?
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I understand much more than you would understand. I know the entire Bible was written by man...

But there you go breaking a commandment again "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour".

I never said "Discard all of Paul"... show me where I said that.

I pointed out the fact that Paul was a Pharisee and like many human leopards he didn't necessarily change his spots.

His teachings about women are exactly that.

What I said was that if they are only men they are prone to error.

No man is infallible!

Therefore you should relate things back to your alleged GOD - Jesus' teachings to make sure they are correct.

Feel free to worship man.. I'm always free to correct you...

1rof1
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John 3:15
That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.


You are running out of scripture.


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And you are making a mistake with scripture

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him (GOD) should not perish, but have everlasting life.

It is very clear that the him is GOD who sent Jesus ... NOT Jesus! And this is proven in John 5:24.

John 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him (GOD) that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

Either John 5:24 is 100% incorrect or you are misreading who the him is in John 3:15 and John 3:16.

John 5:24 is very very specific!

Jesus your alleged GOD sent himself? WOW that is rather illogical but follow man's dogma it's your choice!

This is GOD the master of Universes' son talking and still you will not listen. Amazing!
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To those who throw out Scripture:


Your attempts to discredit Scripture are meaningless to those of us here who love the Lord. He rose from the dead. He is alive. He knocks on the door of people's hearts.


He Himself showed me that I was lost......before I even opened a Bible. My wife showed me only one verse....."Marvel not, you must be born again".......and I gave my life to Him.


God's Spirit then immediately came inside of me......and continues there 24 years later. "The Spirit bears witness with our spirit that we our children of God."


This is not because of anything good that I have done. There is really nothing good about me.....except God's Spirit now living inside of me. It is just because of His grace.....and mercy.....that this happened.


The disciples followed Christ for several years and did not understand the Scriptures. It was only until Christ rose from the dead and was walking with them that "He opened their understanding, that they might comprehend the Scriptures." (Luke 24: 45)


The Pharisees and Scribes debated....studied....and felt they knew Scripture......that they knew God. And they had the Romans arrest their Messiah.....and put him to death.


Christ Himself has also foretold that most will continue to reject Him.......and only a few will come to Him.


You do not find God by winning an intellectual debate.....like you are in debate class in school. He in fact is the one who will find you. Christ is the seeker. A person need only open the door to Him. He will not force His way in.


Hundreds of variations.....ways to bypass Christ.....have been offered.....and continue to be offered.


Ask God sincerely....on a 1:1 basis.... to show you the truth
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:This^^^:

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Well I'm glad you didn't have to do anything good to be satisfied with your spirituality. That would've been hard.

The thing is, scripture has been altered to a huge extent over the years, and this is doubly true with the Bible, or at least the books that are left in it.

And also, what leads you to believe that Jesus is Lord over any other prophet or deity worshipped before? And if you are of the Abrahamic Covenant would it not be logical to embrace Islam, or even Baha'iism? They both claim to be the follow-up religions, as Christianity was to Judaism.
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I thought jesus was the son of god,not god himself.
 Quoting: retral


Correct! Read the ESSENES teachings for those whom don't understand the concept of Jesus not being God. We're here to co-create w/ God.
 Quoting: ~Christine~


Jesus Christ was God in the flesh. Just because you don't believe it doesn't make its not true.

Jehovah's witnesses don't believe that Jesus was God sigh.

Are you a Jehovah witness?

Same question for all of you that don't believe that Jesus Christ was God in the flesh?
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I thought jesus was the son of god,not god himself.
 Quoting: retral


Correct! Read the ESSENES teachings for those whom don't understand the concept of Jesus not being God. We're here to co-create w/ God.
 Quoting: ~Christine~


Jesus Christ was God in the flesh. Just because you don't believe it doesn't make its not true.

Jehovah's witnesses don't believe that Jesus was God sigh.

Are you a Jehovah witness?

Same question for all of you that don't believe that Jesus Christ was God in the flesh?
 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


No, I am not a Jehovah's Witness.

Here's a question for you.

Are you a Muslim? It seems like the logical next step if one believes in Christianity..
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Therefore one has to seriously question the value of Paul's teachings.



BUT WAIT! Paul was promoted when his letters were placed in what we now call the Bible.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1190661



lol...



You discard all of Paul.

Therefore Acts.

Therefore Luke.

Therefore Peter.

You called the Psalms 'alleged'.

You don't seem to understand that Jesus' words were written by a MAN...

And I trust Jesus' words more than any man's words even the men in the BIBLE.


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1190661





Seriously- What's left in your 'Bible"






?
 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 1071051


I understand much more than you would understand. I know the entire Bible was written by man...

But there you go breaking a commandment again "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour".

I never said "Discard all of Paul"... show me where I said that.

I pointed out the fact that Paul was a Pharisee and like many human leopards he didn't necessarily change his spots.

His teachings about women are exactly that.

What I said was that if they are only men they are prone to error.

No man is infallible!

Therefore you should relate things back to your alleged GOD - Jesus' teachings to make sure they are correct.

Feel free to worship man.. I'm always free to correct you...

1rof1
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You still do not understand that even Jesus' words were written by man.

The entire Bible is the true Word of God, not just the letters in RED.


:Allscripture:
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I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.

Psalms 82

Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?

John 10

OP, if you don't believe and follow your own manual and instructions, how can there be a logical discusssion?
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Well I'm glad you didn't have to do anything good to be satisfied with your spirituality. That would've been hard.

The thing is, scripture has been altered to a huge extent over the years, and this is doubly true with the Bible, or at least the books that are left in it.

And also, what leads you to believe that Jesus is Lord over any other prophet or deity worshipped before? And if you are of the Abrahamic Covenant would it not be logical to embrace Islam, or even Baha'iism? They both claim to be the follow-up religions, as Christianity was to Judaism.
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I thought jesus was the son of god,not god himself.
 Quoting: retral


Correct! Read the ESSENES teachings for those whom don't understand the concept of Jesus not being God. We're here to co-create w/ God.
 Quoting: ~Christine~


Jesus Christ was God in the flesh. Just because you don't believe it doesn't make its not true.

Jehovah's witnesses don't believe that Jesus was God sigh.

Are you a Jehovah witness?

Same question for all of you that don't believe that Jesus Christ was God in the flesh?
 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


No, I am not a Jehovah's Witness.

Here's a question for you.

Are you a Muslim? It seems like the logical next step if one believes in Christianity..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1930129


I'm a Christian.

Granted, some of the words have been changed by man over time, b/c word meaning change over time.

The original words can still be found in the Strong Concordance for deeper study.

Jesus is the only one that died on a cross for the sins of the world and rose again.

Plus the Holy bible is the only religious book that is full of propheces that have come true. NO other book can make those claims.

:cool3:
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I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.

Psalms 82

Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?

John 10

OP, if you don't believe and follow your own manual and instructions, how can there be a logical discusssion?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 747095


I do, thank you!

That scripture has been addressed numerous times in this thread. Try reading the whole thread, for that has been answered over and over again.

So, you think you are a God?

Try raising yourself up after you die like Jesus did.

Oh, and good luck with that.
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Well I'm glad you didn't have to do anything good to be satisfied with your spirituality. That would've been hard.

The thing is, scripture has been altered to a huge extent over the years, and this is doubly true with the Bible, or at least the books that are left in it.

And also, what leads you to believe that Jesus is Lord over any other prophet or deity worshipped before? And if you are of the Abrahamic Covenant would it not be logical to embrace Islam, or even Baha'iism? They both claim to be the follow-up religions, as Christianity was to Judaism.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1930129


...


Correct! Read the ESSENES teachings for those whom don't understand the concept of Jesus not being God. We're here to co-create w/ God.
 Quoting: ~Christine~


Jesus Christ was God in the flesh. Just because you don't believe it doesn't make its not true.

Jehovah's witnesses don't believe that Jesus was God sigh.

Are you a Jehovah witness?

Same question for all of you that don't believe that Jesus Christ was God in the flesh?
 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


No, I am not a Jehovah's Witness.

Here's a question for you.

Are you a Muslim? It seems like the logical next step if one believes in Christianity..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1930129


I'm a Christian.

Granted, some of the words have been changed by man over time, b/c word meaning change over time.

The original words can still be found in the Strong Concordance for deeper study.

Jesus is the only one that died on a cross for the sins of the world and rose again.

Plus the Holy bible is the only religious book that is full of prophecies that have come true. NO other book can make those claims.

:cool3:
 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


I find it very hard to believe that every single religion EXCEPT for Christianity has it wrong.

Also, do you agree with the religious elites who shuffled and discarded so many texts from the Bible? Do you know of these texts, do you know they are not actually the word of God as well?

I am honestly not trying to inspire heresy, I just want to see your point of view because I don't really understand it.
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I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.

Psalms 82

Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?

John 10

OP, if you don't believe and follow your own manual and instructions, how can there be a logical discusssion?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 747095


I do, thank you!

That scripture has been addressed numerous times in this thread. Try reading the whole thread, for that has been answered over and over again.

So, you think you are a God?

Try raising yourself up after you die like Jesus did.

Oh, and good luck with that.
 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


Come on, seriously?

You're not even gonna follow Jesus' words?
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It's a shame that this thread's star rating is a little over 2 stars!!!! I gave it 5 stars and I assume many other sensible people did the same.
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You forgot the Holy Ghost.

Because 3 Gods who are really 1 God, totally does not violate that whole "You shall have no other Gods before Me!"

For some reason...

And even though it was 300 years after his death before people started being forced to believe in his Divinity. And the Bible was heavily edited and re-written and knowledge suppressed. To the point where 2000 years later there are over 8000 different sects of "Christianity" that Jesus would have totally approved of. (Yeah right...)

And stuff got like, totally added to the Bible that people believe in, like "Anti-Christ" meaning there is only one person on the whole damn planet that is "Anti" Christ, for example...

What I am trying to say here is, instead of using that book to beat people with, why not try opening it and reading it for yourself? Find out the books that were taken out. Read and research the different versions for yourself.

And, after all that research, you still believe in "Raptures", and "arks that hold 2 of every animal in the world, even ducks and fish, and these animals didn't eat other animals for 40 days", and "walking on water" (or did he just know where the rocks where?)

Well then...

You have a right to try and preach to strangers at that point. I guess.

(Just dont knock on my door at 7 in the morning...)
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Well I'm glad you didn't have to do anything good to be satisfied with your spirituality. That would've been hard.

The thing is, scripture has been altered to a huge extent over the years, and this is doubly true with the Bible, or at least the books that are left in it.

And also, what leads you to believe that Jesus is Lord over any other prophet or deity worshipped before? And if you are of the Abrahamic Covenant would it not be logical to embrace Islam, or even Baha'iism? They both claim to be the follow-up religions, as Christianity was to Judaism.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1930129


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Jesus Christ was God in the flesh. Just because you don't believe it doesn't make its not true.

Jehovah's witnesses don't believe that Jesus was God sigh.

Are you a Jehovah witness?

Same question for all of you that don't believe that Jesus Christ was God in the flesh?
 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


No, I am not a Jehovah's Witness.

Here's a question for you.

Are you a Muslim? It seems like the logical next step if one believes in Christianity..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1930129


I'm a Christian.

Granted, some of the words have been changed by man over time, b/c word meaning change over time.

The original words can still be found in the Strong Concordance for deeper study.

Jesus is the only one that died on a cross for the sins of the world and rose again.

Plus the Holy bible is the only religious book that is full of prophecies that have come true. NO other book can make those claims.

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 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


I find it very hard to believe that every single religion EXCEPT for Christianity has it wrong.

Also, do you agree with the religious elites who shuffled and discarded so many texts from the Bible? Do you know of these texts, do you know they are not actually the word of God as well?

I am honestly not trying to inspire heresy, I just want to see your point of view because I don't really understand it.
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How do I know that Christianity is true. For one, numerous prophecy that has been fulfilled. For two, because I have been filled with the Holy Spirit of god. For three, I have personally witnessed a miracle after praying in the name of Jesus.

Yes, for example the book of Enoch. Are you asking if I agree with it? Thats a tough question. I take it by faith that the creator God of all things can, and did inspire man to complete His Word. What do you think?

BTW- I do read those other books in question, but don't necessarily regard them as absolute truth.

These are just MHO's

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Christians may love their jesus--VERY conditionally--but they definitely hate their god. They do everything they can to divorce themselves from him. They fight tooth, claw, and nail to divorce their jesus from their god, too.

Jesus, speaking of Moses' law, says that UNTIL HEAVEN AND EARTH PASS AWAY, not a jot nor a tittle shall pass from the law. And anyone who teaches otherwise shall be LEAST in heaven... and in danger of hellfire.

But christians don't like their god's laws. So they try to claim that what jesus MEANT TO SAY, was that when he died, the old laws were done away with. Yeah, that's the ticket.

Now, of course, when it's convenient for them, they love the old laws, but most of the time, they deliberately go about their business ignoring the laws entirely.

They do this because the laws are hard to keep. They're not fun. They make life difficult, especially in a modern society.

So they divorced their GOD, and worshiped his avatar. They divorced the laws of their GOD, and worship the freedom of "grace" supposedly granted by the murder of their godling.

They give up being unclean, and favor instead being washed in blood and thus free to do anything at all that they desire.

Faith without works is dead, but they don't care. They don't obey their GOD because they don't like him any more than anyone else does.

They don't WANT to dress in a way that pleases their god. They don't WANT to keep themselves apart from the rest of society when they are unclean. They don't LIKE the things that their god said would please him. So they don't bother.

If they loved their god, they wouldn't care whether or not they HAVE TO keep these laws. They wouldn't search for scriptures that weasel them out of it, if interpreted THUS AND SO...

They wouldn't care. Their god says "this is pleasing to me" and THAT WOULD BE ALL THAT MATTERED to them.

But they divorced themselves from their father and ran to the son.... then they ignored his words, too!

He says to keep the laws. But many christians don't care. All that matters to them is that there's a "get out of pleasing god free" card... their god's laws are stupid, unrealistic, onerous, and absurd. They know this.

So they don't bother to try to please him any more than the rest of us do.

Because it's impossible. The bible admits to that. The bible further admits that god made the laws impossible on purpose. To prove that humans will never measure up and are never good enough.

Good stuff...
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It's a shame that this thread's star rating is a little over 2 stars!!!! I gave it 5 stars and I assume many other sensible people did the same.
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You just denied Jesus' words, and that's all you can say? Or do you deny that he said them?
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Christians may love their jesus--VERY conditionally--but they definitely hate their god. They do everything they can to divorce themselves from him. They fight tooth, claw, and nail to divorce their jesus from their god, too.

Jesus, speaking of Moses' law, says that UNTIL HEAVEN AND EARTH PASS AWAY, not a jot nor a tittle shall pass from the law. And anyone who teaches otherwise shall be LEAST in heaven... and in danger of hellfire.

But christians don't like their god's laws. So they try to claim that what jesus MEANT TO SAY, was that when he died, the old laws were done away with. Yeah, that's the ticket.

Now, of course, when it's convenient for them, they love the old laws, but most of the time, they deliberately go about their business ignoring the laws entirely.

They do this because the laws are hard to keep. They're not fun. They make life difficult, especially in a modern society.

So they divorced their GOD, and worshiped his avatar. They divorced the laws of their GOD, and worship the freedom of "grace" supposedly granted by the murder of their godling.

They give up being unclean, and favor instead being washed in blood and thus free to do anything at all that they desire.

Faith without works is dead, but they don't care. They don't obey their GOD because they don't like him any more than anyone else does.

They don't WANT to dress in a way that pleases their god. They don't WANT to keep themselves apart from the rest of society when they are unclean. They don't LIKE the things that their god said would please him. So they don't bother.

If they loved their god, they wouldn't care whether or not they HAVE TO keep these laws. They wouldn't search for scriptures that weasel them out of it, if interpreted THUS AND SO...

They wouldn't care. Their god says "this is pleasing to me" and THAT WOULD BE ALL THAT MATTERED to them.

But they divorced themselves from their father and ran to the son.... then they ignored his words, too!

He says to keep the laws. But many christians don't care. All that matters to them is that there's a "get out of pleasing god free" card... their god's laws are stupid, unrealistic, onerous, and absurd. They know this.

So they don't bother to try to please him any more than the rest of us do.

Because it's impossible. The bible admits to that. The bible further admits that god made the laws impossible on purpose. To prove that humans will never measure up and are never good enough.

Good stuff...
 Quoting: Sandi_T


Sandi, just because we are called Christians, doesn't make us perfect. We are still human being, living in the same flesh as anybody else. We make mistakes, especially me lol, all the time. Our faith and our Lord are constantly mocked. We are not bullet proof, and it hurts to be attacked just b/c of what we believe in.

I know we differ in our belief, but you are a perfect example that our difference doesn't have to divide us. For if we choose to, we can, and should, love one another regardless.

I call you my friend, regardless of are differences of opinions.

BTW- I feel blessed to have a friend like you!

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You just denied Jesus' words, and that's all you can say? Or do you deny that he said them?
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How did I deny my Lords words? Please explain?





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