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USA : Civil War : 2013 .... thoughts?

 
s. d. butler

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I'm confused, why should I take up arms and murder my fellow Americans? and why in the world would anyone else want to do the same?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8327298


the only reason i can think of is some of "my fellow americans" want to take the last remaining freedoms, all the money, reduce people to being mere cattle and create a stalinist state.
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I WOULD LOOOOVE TO DO AN EXPERIMENT...!

Let's stick all the lefties on 1 side of the country. The right on the other side.
Now....
Draw a line right down the middle. And watch....

In less then 100 years the Left will end up borrowing money from the right to avoid going under. Socialism never works.
The righties will have low taxes and businesses will take off. I mean go ape shit. Cranking out factories, mom and pop shops...you name it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4227306


Oh, yes, free markets where anything goes right? Snake oil salesmen, con men, ponzi schemes, companies selling paint with lead again, bio-hazardous waste dumped in your yard, no more trees, child labor, schooling only for those able to pay, mom and pop paying protection money to "business men"...yeah, you name it. Wow, kind of sounds like China, maybe you should move there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1535030


We have virtually all those things now except now the snake oil salesmen are protected by government. And schooling? you mean public schools? The ones that have done such a great job? Mom and Pop still pay protection money, only this time it is a new gang of thugs.

Wow kind of sounds like you are a government worshipper. What kind of taxpayer paid "job" do you have? Wow kind of sounds like you should stay in whatever state worshipping socialist hellhole you live in. Or maybe you should move to one.

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I'm wondering what a modern day civil war in the US would look like?

How would it happen? What would happen? How would it effect the average citizen? Would we all be taking up guns and aiming them at family and friends with differing opinions?

Would the righty's kill the lefty's?

Instead of using guns would hackers attack the govn't websites, leak info and possibly hack other tactical targets such has power plants, water systems, rail.. etc.

Would some giant corporation step in and form it's own govn't?

Would there be martial law, and if so.. do you think some our own military soldiers would defect and defend whatever side they choose?

Would there be an Eeastern US and Western US or possibly even more... the Southern states, the NorthEastern States..etc.




I know it's pretty bleak but just something I've been thinking about for a while and I'm wondering what others are thinking?

Is a civil war even possible in the United States this day and age?


Thoughts? Opinions?
 Quoting: Artlicious


Nope.
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First you'll lose your job. Then you'll find out there's no unemployment or food stamps cause it was all wasted on stimulus and the IMF. Then you'll spend your last buck on a bag of Skittles. And then you lose it and go outside looking for payback......

think it won't happen.......
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2926765


Hahaha They're will be jobs for you...As long as you bring your babies down to the free clinic for some immunizations!

Goes for the out of work police too. Once the states start shutting down all that will be left are the TSA.

Muhahahaha!
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edited out because I don't have the remove option right now.

It was a great post. :)

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there will only be the "selling off" of different section of the US to the best buyer, simple business transaction, and damned to the little people. THEY got what they needed out of this old cow, now comes the butchering for market
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No Americans will not be fighting each other unless stupid anarchy for hording .
We have no organized sides like the old South & North war just are Constitution rights to protect from outsiders.

Our biggest threat is from organized power kings that want to take over our way of life under the bill of rights 13 amendments.

Americans should be more concerned about the power kings just miles south of the boarder.

They have many here already as street gangsters now with American licenses . Dealing drugs , slaves, boarder runners , counterfeiters, car thieves. industrial smash & grab tool heisters etc for the cartel waiting for orders and if a hit is places they must carry it out or be killed.

These guys are scary and they despise America & will asset any other country or agenda against the USA
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It would break down along racial lines with the current govt. backing the people who are the problem, blacks.Blacks are running wild assaulting,raping and robbing blacks and whites alike.These numbnuts like sharpton and jackson stir the pot for there own personal gain, claiming victimization and laying the blame for black on white assaults and murders at the feet of white people,saying they`ve wronged the black man for 400 years and the chickens come home to roost!This sort of bullshit emboldens these punks and promotes a culture of racist blacks who take no responsibility for there actions.Whites have done more for blacks in the last 50 years than anyone has done for them ever.They get every advantage in society but apparently(sorry if the truth hurts)they`re just too stupid to succeed.They`re also apparently too stupid to act civilized in a modern society.I dont give a fuck what you say,the fact is most blacks are fucking parasites and theres no getting past it.The media has a agenda and doesnt report most black crimes and most black on white crimes are not prosecuted as hate crimes like they should be.If you go on sites like the smoking gun you`ll see just how much black on white crime there is everywhere,its fucking astounding!Yet still they play the victim,and they do it cause they`re fucking sleaze balls and we let them do it.If civil war comes......schemingschemingscheming
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blacks
muslims
mexicans
whites
slavics
asians

oh it is going to be a real party folks

melting pot? more like a leaking reactor chamber
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Won't last too long......after we burn the MASONS out and off all their minions in black dresses and stuffed suits
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Most Americans are too fat to fight much. However, those who can waddle around would probably shoot their neighbors who disagreed with them on something/anything.

How would it start? Why not when televangelists tell their flocks "kill the cockroaches!" Just like in Rwanda a few years ago.

How would it end? Maybe it wouldn't. Just upsurges and downsurges over a long time.
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"The Pipeline issue is really big people here want the Keystone XL to be built."

Nebraskans don't want their ground water poisoned to suit some lazy Oklahomans. Let the "conservatives" conserve!
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I read the words of Southron fanatics. I see hatred and contempt for the rest of humanity, who they consider sub-human, deserving to be slaves, serfs, debt-peons, etc. From what I read, it seems like they could easily be pushed over the edge to attack the American people....AGAIN.
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Whether there's a civil war or not...we're done. Even many sheople in my town have admitted to me that it's baked in the cake...and is already terrible economically. No way out of it. Doesn't matter which elitist Luci minion scumsucker is hand picked for the Oval Office. Doesn't matter how mind-numbed you are by the corporate-whore media. What are ya gonna do? VOTE?! LMAO!
s. d. butler

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Most Americans are too fat to fight much. However, those who can waddle around would probably shoot their neighbors who disagreed with them on something/anything.

How would it start? Why not when televangelists tell their flocks "kill the cockroaches!" Just like in Rwanda a few years ago.

How would it end? Maybe it wouldn't. Just upsurges and downsurges over a long time.
 Quoting: Zhuge Liang 15017227


Most americans are too fat to fight much? Do you even realize how stupid that is?

Do you even realize how stupid it is to say anyone would shoot anyone who disagrees with them?
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Most Americans are too fat to fight much. However, those who can waddle around would probably shoot their neighbors who disagreed with them on something/anything.

How would it start? Why not when televangelists tell their flocks "kill the cockroaches!" Just like in Rwanda a few years ago.

How would it end? Maybe it wouldn't. Just upsurges and downsurges over a long time.
 Quoting: Zhuge Liang 15017227


Most americans are too fat to fight much? Do you even realize how stupid that is?

Do you even realize how stupid it is to say anyone would shoot anyone who disagrees with them?
 Quoting: s. d. butler


I hate to say this, but maybe he is seeing the world through slanted eyes.....
s. d. butler

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We have one every 4 years, its call voting for the president.


Its a war of beliefs.

But the problem is the couch party wins most of the time, with most votes not counted.
 Quoting: me 1269302


Herdly. Haven't you noticed the government wins every time?
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I believe we are headed down this path. Many people think that the biggest threat to our rights granted by our constitution, freedom, culture, and preferred way of life comes from within. When push comes to shove, many Americans (althiough reluctantly) will decide to fight for what they believe in - even if it's against other Americans in name only. This time - the outcome may be different. Most likely seperate countries.
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I believe we are headed down this path. Many people think that the biggest threat to our rights granted by our constitution, freedom, culture, and preferred way of life comes from within. When push comes to shove, many Americans (althiough reluctantly) will decide to fight for what they believe in - even if it's against other Americans in name only. This time - the outcome may be different. Most likely seperate countries.
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Rights aren't "granted" by the constitution. They are inherent and can neither be given or taken.
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At the current rate the north and South keep getting more polarized it wont take long to start one once the socialist clown is reelected in the secret meeting they hold every 4 years
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Excellent Answer! This is the exact way it's going to be.

Civil War? How about complete societal collapse?

Imagine a country without welfare, no value in currency, incapable of growing or manufacturing anything.

No television, no running water, no electricity.

No gas in your car, no communication from facebook, twitter, the mail services; nothing.

Imagine your life without a fire department, a police department, a transportation department, etc.

This isn't a Civil War we will be fighting, it will be a Survival War.

How's your aim? Got any food stores? Have anything to barter? Do you have seeds and know how to garden? Do you have books to educate your fellow man with? Would you be willing to share?
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Civil War? How about complete societal collapse?

Imagine a country without welfare, no value in currency, incapable of growing or manufacturing anything.

No television, no running water, no electricity.

No gas in your car, no communication from facebook, twitter, the mail services; nothing.

Imagine your life without a fire department, a police department, a transportation department, etc.

This isn't a Civil War we will be fighting, it will be a Survival War.

How's your aim? Got any food stores? Have anything to barter? Do you have seeds and know how to garden? Do you have books to educate your fellow man with? Would you be willing to share?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1517165
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Civil War? How about complete societal collapse?

Imagine a country without welfare, no value in currency, incapable of growing or manufacturing anything.

No television, no running water, no electricity.

No gas in your car, no communication from facebook, twitter, the mail services; nothing.

Imagine your life without a fire department, a police department, a transportation department, etc.

This isn't a Civil War we will be fighting, it will be a Survival War.

How's your aim? Got any food stores? Have anything to barter? Do you have seeds and know how to garden? Do you have books to educate your fellow man with? Would you be willing to share?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1517165

 Quoting: MIMI VILLLEGAS GALDI 4480637



This view is mostly hogwash. It won't take long for a currency to emerge, entrepreneurs will supply everything needed in varying time frames.

Initially things might be bad,depending on where you live, but people will adjust, markets will re establish, trade and commerce will start again.

I can imagine life very well without police. And a transportation department. Whatever that is. Who ever wrote this post appears to be a state worshipper.

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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm??

So a combination of "Mad Max" and "Helter Skelter", that would be quite interesting, but need be, I do believe "TPTB" have a solution for this like a "Wag the dogs tail Event" or as some would say a "False Flag Incident", something big, bigger than 9-11, a lot bigger than 9-11, why of course a "Biological Incident" that will kill many Sheeple (Masses), that's whats needed! And I'm sure "TPTB" have it picked out already on "American Soil", why of course "The Long Island/NY metro area" , perfect to isolate, quarantine, and seperate and rid of the largest "Entitlement/Welfare People of the U.S.A.", its the perfect plan!

Why of course 9-11, was just the appetizer for the NY vicinity. But I do believe a few events will take place before this happens, all worked out by "Think Tanks", probably "Rounding up of select People" 1st, or "Moving of Select People via Job Offers" (that's the front door excuse, but back door reason would be "Rounding up and Relocation of Select People" and then the incident/event, brought up by "Martial Law", "Military", "FEMA", "Population Relocation", "Massive Deaths/Kill Event", "Crematories", "Police", "National Guard", "DHS", and "DOT" and a few other alphabet agencies involved in the mix. This is the "New New World Order" and "TPTB" are getting quite impatient with it, as its probably just right around the corner with this happening. Most likely a major major "Biological Incident", and I also believe this was worked out 66+ years ago with FDR, and "The Levitts" (who started Levittown, NY, Alfred and William, which started Suburbia Long Island/NY metro area, and I believe with 100% they were Kapo jewish people).

Long Island/NY metro the perfect area to isolate, quarantine, and seperate from "Mainland of the USA", just too perfect to happen, as almost like 'Planned", many many years ago (66+ years ago).


 Quoting: Future Viewer


Interesting. Elaborate more if you can
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It would break down along racial lines with the current govt. backing the people who are the problem, blacks.Blacks are running wild assaulting,raping and robbing blacks and whites alike.These numbnuts like sharpton and jackson stir the pot for there own personal gain, claiming victimization and laying the blame for black on white assaults and murders at the feet of white people,saying they`ve wronged the black man for 400 years and the chickens come home to roost!This sort of bullshit emboldens these punks and promotes a culture of racist blacks who take no responsibility for there actions.Whites have done more for blacks in the last 50 years than anyone has done for them ever.They get every advantage in society but apparently(sorry if the truth hurts)they`re just too stupid to succeed.They`re also apparently too stupid to act civilized in a modern society.I dont give a fuck what you say,the fact is most blacks are fucking parasites and theres no getting past it.The media has a agenda and doesnt report most black crimes and most black on white crimes are not prosecuted as hate crimes like they should be.If you go on sites like the smoking gun you`ll see just how much black on white crime there is everywhere,its fucking astounding!Yet still they play the victim,and they do it cause they`re fucking sleaze balls and we let them do it.If civil war comes......schemingschemingscheming
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I think for a civil war you will need the government to strike at a fundamental value of American society, and it needs to be immediately felt.

If there is strong opposition to the change, and then violent repression, then polarization/radicalization follows and yes, I think it could degenerate...

But first these three conditions need to be met:

1) Government strikes at a fundamental value
2) Strong opposition
3) Repression from government

So far 1) has happened, but 2) has not followed.
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dug up this old thread,due to recent events,I think it need pinned again.

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