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Ron Paul took double reimbursements on air travel, stolen from taxpayers

 
MrOysterhead

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lol, no.

you dont think you have written the first anti- ron paul thread have you?
 Quoting: MrOysterhead


lol

well maybe the first one dealing
with Ron\'s campaign financing
and how campaign embezzling works.
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Thread: ***Beware of sending money to the Ron Paul campaign***
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WTF are you talking about.

believing in more civil liberties and a smaller federal goverment is "barbaric" and anti-Americanism?
 Quoting: MrOysterhead


You are an anarchist you believe not in a peaceful sociality. You despise our founding fathers and the Constitution , The Bill of Rights , The Civil Rights Act , The Deceleration Of Independence and all laws in general. Do you think you can fool the greatest minds in this country? We see through your marketing of an anti-Americanism agenda , you will not be permitted to destroy the country that has been built before you. I pity you and you`re kind.
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you might be the most misinformed poster of all time
 Quoting: MrOysterhead


Paul’s comments about race in general and blacks had been available at the edge of the news environment for quite some time. Less well known, however, was Paul’s long-standing support from neo-Nazi organizations.

Paul’s comments about blacks go way beyond such mild words as insensitive or politically incorrect. Paul clearly has serious problems dealing with the reality that blacks are and always have been part and parcel of the American experience. Genuine Americans work to move beyond racism, not wallow in it as Paul has for years on end. That alone is enough to disqualify him for the presidency no matter how attractive some of his other views might seem to unsuspecting voters.

In addition, Paul’s refusal to repudiate his support from neo-Nazis also disqualifies from the presidency and any other office in the United States for that matter.

Nazis, with their ugly racial politics, were ultimately against everything from personal freedom to equality before the law, for which the United States has long and proudly stood. The Nazi and neo-Nazi world views are profoundly anti-American.

The fact neo-Nazis have gravitated toward Paul’s campaign clearly suggests there something profoundly anti-American at the core of Paul’s presidential bid.
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1rof1

its posts like this that remind me of where i am...............a conspiracy site.
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You are an anarchist you believe not in a peaceful sociality. You despise our founding fathers and the Constitution , The Bill of Rights , The Civil Rights Act , The Deceleration Of Independence and all laws in general. Do you think you can fool the greatest minds in this country? We see through your marketing of an anti-Americanism agenda , you will not be permitted to destroy the country that has been built before you. I pity you and you`re kind.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10305657


you might be the most misinformed poster of all time
 Quoting: MrOysterhead


Paul’s comments about race in general and blacks had been available at the edge of the news environment for quite some time. Less well known, however, was Paul’s long-standing support from neo-Nazi organizations.

Paul’s comments about blacks go way beyond such mild words as insensitive or politically incorrect. Paul clearly has serious problems dealing with the reality that blacks are and always have been part and parcel of the American experience. Genuine Americans work to move beyond racism, not wallow in it as Paul has for years on end. That alone is enough to disqualify him for the presidency no matter how attractive some of his other views might seem to unsuspecting voters.

In addition, Paul’s refusal to repudiate his support from neo-Nazis also disqualifies from the presidency and any other office in the United States for that matter.

Nazis, with their ugly racial politics, were ultimately against everything from personal freedom to equality before the law, for which the United States has long and proudly stood. The Nazi and neo-Nazi world views are profoundly anti-American.

The fact neo-Nazis have gravitated toward Paul’s campaign clearly suggests there something profoundly anti-American at the core of Paul’s presidential bid.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10305927


Cool, you don't like the guy...but I and most here are not influenced by your opinion...

:)
 Quoting: Evan03


In the Republican presidential candidates’ debate on Jan. 7, Rep. Ron Paul said: “I’m the only one up here … that understands true racism in this country is in the judicial system.”

He said this racism has to do with “enforcing the drug laws” and then added: “They (blacks) get the death penalty way disproportionately.”

Two groups immediately defended Paul – his supporters and commentators on the left. The former support anything Paul says, and the left supports anything Paul says that portrays America as ugly (see, for example, the defense of Paul by left-wing USA Today columnist Dwayne Wickham, whose columns are regularly devoted to how much blacks suffer from American racism).

Just last month, Paul was asked by a representative of an organization (We Are Change) that holds the government responsible for 9/11, “Why won’t you come out about the truth about 9/11?”

Paul’s response: “Because I can’t handle the controversy. I have the IMF, the Federal Reserve to deal with, the IRS to deal with. Because I just have more – too many – things on my plate. Because I just have too much to do.” The interview is readily available on YouTube.

Whatever the implication of his cryptic response, when Paul is confronted by the mainstream media, he denies that he believes the American government was involved in the 9/11 attacks. But what is undeniable is that Paul, like much of the left, holds America largely responsible for 9/11 because of its foreign policy. That includes its “occupying” of countries all over the world; the sanctions on Saddam Hussein’s Iraq, which Paul and the left claim killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqis; the injustices against Palestinians America has supported (through its support of Israel); etc.

Paul mocks the idea that the primary reason for 9/11 was that people of great evil attacked a very good country – because this is what the evil do, just as they did on the Dec. 7, 1941, when the Japanese regime attacked Pearl Harbor.

It does seem that the Texas congressman’s description of the American justice system as racist is part of Paul’s generally dark view of America.

The claim that America disproportionately executes blacks is a falsehood, disseminated on virtually every left-wing website, from the ACLU to all the anti-death-penalty sites. The only way it can be regarded as true is if the disproportion is in relation to the entire population of the country: Blacks make up about 12 percent of the population and since 1976 have been about 35 percent of those executed for murder. But this is a statistic that tells no truth because it is meaningless in terms of determining alleged racial bias.

This is very easy to prove. Males make up about 50 percent of the American population but make up about 99 percent of those executed. Is the American justice system wildly anti-male?

Of course not. The statistic that matters in assessing bias in executions is the proportion of murderers of a given group who are executed, not the group’s proportion of the entire population.

And here, it is clear that blacks are actually under-represented in executions.

According to the Death Penalty Information Center, an anti-death-penalty organization, between 1976 and January 2012, 441 blacks (35 percent of the total) and 717 whites (55 percent of the total) were executed. Given that blacks committed more than half the murders during that time (52 percent versus 46 percent by whites), if we are to assess racial bias based on proportionality of murderers executed, the system is biased against whites, not blacks.

Because this fact is both obvious and irrefutable, virtually none of the anti-death-penalty sites note it. Instead, they focus on the race of murder victims and even the race of prosecutors – in other words, the race of just about everyone except those convicted of murder.
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Re: Ron Paul took double reimbursements on air travel, stolen from taxpayers
lol, no.

you dont think you have written the first anti- ron paul thread have you?
 Quoting: MrOysterhead


lol

well maybe the first one dealing
with Ron\\\'s campaign financing
and how campaign embezzling works.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8762419


Thread: ***Beware of sending money to the Ron Paul campaign***
 Quoting: MrOysterhead


hey thanks
hadn\'t seen that one :)

but the OP of that thread
just made an accusation
with no corroborating link
to substantiate.

will investigate more :)
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Re: Ron Paul took double reimbursements on air travel, stolen from taxpayers
lol, no.

you dont think you have written the first anti- ron paul thread have you?
 Quoting: MrOysterhead


lol

well maybe the first one dealing
with Ron\\\'s campaign financing
and how campaign embezzling works.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8762419


Thread: ***Beware of sending money to the Ron Paul campaign***
 Quoting: MrOysterhead


hey thanks
hadn\'t seen that one :)

but the OP of that thread
just made an accusation
with no corroborating link
to substantiate.

will investigate more :)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8933903


lol, that's not even the one I was talking about....theres a few floating around I guess
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You are an anarchist you believe not in a peaceful sociality. You despise our founding fathers and the Constitution , The Bill of Rights , The Civil Rights Act , The Deceleration Of Independence and all laws in general. Do you think you can fool the greatest minds in this country? We see through your marketing of an anti-Americanism agenda , you will not be permitted to destroy the country that has been built before you. I pity you and you`re kind.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10305657


you might be the most misinformed poster of all time
 Quoting: MrOysterhead


Paul’s comments about race in general and blacks had been available at the edge of the news environment for quite some time. Less well known, however, was Paul’s long-standing support from neo-Nazi organizations.

Paul’s comments about blacks go way beyond such mild words as insensitive or politically incorrect. Paul clearly has serious problems dealing with the reality that blacks are and always have been part and parcel of the American experience. Genuine Americans work to move beyond racism, not wallow in it as Paul has for years on end. That alone is enough to disqualify him for the presidency no matter how attractive some of his other views might seem to unsuspecting voters.

In addition, Paul’s refusal to repudiate his support from neo-Nazis also disqualifies from the presidency and any other office in the United States for that matter.

Nazis, with their ugly racial politics, were ultimately against everything from personal freedom to equality before the law, for which the United States has long and proudly stood. The Nazi and neo-Nazi world views are profoundly anti-American.

The fact neo-Nazis have gravitated toward Paul’s campaign clearly suggests there something profoundly anti-American at the core of Paul’s presidential bid.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10305927


1rof1

its posts like this that remind me of where i am...............a conspiracy site.
 Quoting: MrOysterhead


ohyeah
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Truth is the new hate speech in our age of absurdity-Ted Nougat

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Re: Ron Paul took double reimbursements on air travel, stolen from taxpayers
lol, no.

you dont think you have written the first anti- ron paul thread have you?
 Quoting: MrOysterhead


lol

well maybe the first one dealing
with Ron\\\'s campaign financing
and how campaign embezzling works.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8762419


Thread: ***Beware of sending money to the Ron Paul campaign***
 Quoting: MrOysterhead


after researching, the Op of that thread
did not share facts to substantiate his claims.
He claimed $5Million

I can\'t show $5Million

but I can show $500K transferred
from his Presidential PAC to his
House Re-Election Campaign.

[link to imageshack.us]
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Re: Ron Paul took double reimbursements on air travel, stolen from taxpayers
lol, no.

you dont think you have written the first anti- ron paul thread have you?
 Quoting: MrOysterhead


lol

well maybe the first one dealing
with Ron\\\'s campaign financing
and how campaign embezzling works.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8762419


Thread: ***Beware of sending money to the Ron Paul campaign***
 Quoting: MrOysterhead


after researching, the Op of that thread
did not share facts to substantiate his claims.
He claimed $5Million

I can\'t show $5Million

but I can show $500K transferred
from his Presidential PAC to his
House Re-Election Campaign.

[link to imageshack.us]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8933903


that is ok with most people. outside of giving it back the most appropriate thing he can do with that money is spend it on getting re-elected.
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that is ok with most people.
 Quoting: MrOysterhead


would you care to prove that statement ???
where did Paul ask his donors if this
was ok ???
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that is ok with most people.
 Quoting: MrOysterhead


would you care to prove that statement ???
where did Paul ask his donors if this
was ok ???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8933903


I'm a donor...I think it's ok.
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Re: Ron Paul took double reimbursements on air travel, stolen from taxpayers
that is ok with most people.
 Quoting: MrOysterhead


would you care to prove that statement ???
where did Paul ask his donors if this
was ok ???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8933903


well of course i cant prove that. IMO that is common sense but we can agree to disagree on that.

what would you propose he do with that money?
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Re: Ron Paul took double reimbursements on air travel, stolen from taxpayers
that is ok with most people.
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would you care to prove that statement ???
where did Paul ask his donors if this
was ok ???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8933903


I\'m a donor...I think it\'s ok.
 Quoting: Evan03


I\'m a donor too
and it\'s not.
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Re: Ron Paul took double reimbursements on air travel, stolen from taxpayers
that is ok with most people.
 Quoting: MrOysterhead


would you care to prove that statement ???
where did Paul ask his donors if this
was ok ???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8933903


I\'m a donor...I think it\'s ok.
 Quoting: Evan03


I\'m a donor too
and it\'s not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8762419


Well....sorry. Don't donate anymore..problem solved

Last Edited by Evan03 on 02/06/2012 07:50 PM
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Re: Ron Paul took double reimbursements on air travel, stolen from taxpayers
that is ok with most people.
 Quoting: MrOysterhead


would you care to prove that statement ???
where did Paul ask his donors if this
was ok ???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8933903


I\'m a donor...I think it\'s ok.
 Quoting: Evan03


I\'m a donor too
and it\'s not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8762419


so ttthhhaaatttt'ssss what this is about.

you want your money back
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well of course i cant prove that. IMO that is common sense but we can agree to disagree on that.

what would you propose he do with that money?
 Quoting: MrOysterhead


give it back to the donors !!!

if you gave your secretary $50
to go fill up with gas in the company car
and she spent it on personal items
such as cigarettes and a case of beer,
would you be happy ???

This is not what it was donated for.
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would you care to prove that statement ???
where did Paul ask his donors if this
was ok ???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8933903


I\\\'m a donor...I think it\\\'s ok.
 Quoting: Evan03


I\\\'m a donor too
and it\\\'s not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8762419


Well....sorry. Don\'t donate anymore..problem solved
 Quoting: Evan03


No, not solved.
There are still millions of dollars
floating around in PACs doing
things that the donors did
not approve of.
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Do you really think Ron Paul books his own flights or files for reimbursements on anything? It was probably a small mistake by a staff member, get over it.
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well of course i cant prove that. IMO that is common sense but we can agree to disagree on that.

what would you propose he do with that money?
 Quoting: MrOysterhead


give it back to the donors !!!

if you gave your secretary $50
to go fill up with gas in the company car
and she spent it on personal items
such as cigarettes and a case of beer,
would you be happy ???

This is not what it was donated for.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8762419


ok, so say we give the money back......who gets what? would it be a % thing?
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Do you really think Ron Paul books his own flights or files for reimbursements on anything? It was probably a small mistake by a staff member, get over it.
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this is my assumption.

27k aint shit nor would it be enough to trouble with for RP.
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I\\\'m a donor...I think it\\\'s ok.
 Quoting: Evan03


I\\\'m a donor too
and it\\\'s not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8762419


Well....sorry. Don\'t donate anymore..problem solved
 Quoting: Evan03


No, not solved.
There are still millions of dollars
floating around in PACs doing
things that the donors did
not approve of.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8762419



Politics is a crazy game. If you are going to nit pick this stuff, I suggest you just stay out of politics
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so ttthhhaaatttt\'ssss what this is about.

you want your money back
 Quoting: MrOysterhead


you missed the whole point
of this thread.

the point of this thread is
to show you that Paul has the same
financial cons working that all the
other candidates do.

He is painted as a savior, yet
he\'s no different than they are.

THAT is what this is about.

the thread on the money transfers
to his House re-election committee
is another thread which I didn\'t author.

I only brought it up when it was
posted by someone else in this thread.
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Re: Ron Paul took double reimbursements on air travel, stolen from taxpayers
Do you really think Ron Paul books his own flights or files for reimbursements on anything? It was probably a small mistake by a staff member, get over it.
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you also missed the point,

he files for reimbursement
for those travel expenses AFTER they
have already been paid for
by a PAC.

He gets the money, not the staff.

So don\'t try to blame this off
on incompetent staff.

He took the money !!!

I am so tired of no accountability
for wrong doings in DC.

Paul hypes on this also,
yet he does the same thing.

Hypocrite much ???
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ok, so say we give the money back......who gets what? would it be a % thing?
 Quoting: MrOysterhead


we are getting off topic,
we are combining 2 threads into one.

But yes, each transaction of a donation
should have a name and address.
This is where the money should be returned
to.

Else if it is not, and Paul drops
out of the election or does not use
it or does not win, guess who pockets
ALL that cash, tax free ???

Ron Paul
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Do you really think Ron Paul books his own flights or files for reimbursements on anything? It was probably a small mistake by a staff member, get over it.
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this is my assumption.

27k aint shit nor would it be enough to trouble with for RP.
 Quoting: MrOysterhead


$27K is just the tip
of the proverbial iceberg.

I already showed you how
the gov pays off candidate
loans.
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Politics is a crazy game. If you are going to nit pick this stuff, I suggest you just stay out of politics
 Quoting: Evan03


Politics is a CRIMINALs game.
There I fixed it for ya.

And I am here trying to wake
people up so we can fix it.
This was already shared
in a prior post.
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He is doing this country a favor. I agree to pay for wherever he travels.

and I am not a tool.
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I agree to pay for wherever he travels.
and I am not a tool.
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then fine, you take it out
of your paycheck

but do not take it out of everyones
paycheck called taxes.

by Paul billing the taxpayers
for travel that is already
paid for by a PAC is no different
than somebody mugging you on the
street.

It\'s robbery.
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He is doing this country a favor.
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what would that favor be ???

showing everyone how you can
fleece the taxpayers of their
cash by running for president ???
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yay evan03 came back! maybe now you can answer these questions....???

did ron paul write a book with one of the 'rebuilding americas defenses' signators, lewis lehrman?

did that book make the case for rothschilds gold?

did ron paul say there is nothing to fear about globalism and a single world currency?

did bildeberg member peter thiel give him 900k?

did he hire zionist bruce fein?

are 'bush insiders' campaigning for him?

dont ignore my questions, theyre simple yes or no questions.
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already completely debunked.
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Yep, it was but I find it funny that the shills can only find things like this on RP. This is such bs.

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