Ron Paul took double reimbursements on air travel, stolen from taxpayers

Thread: ***Beware of sending money to the Ron Paul campaign***

its posts like this that remind me of where i am...............a conspiracy site.

In the Republican presidential candidates’ debate on Jan. 7, Rep. Ron Paul said: “I’m the only one up here … that understands true racism in this country is in the judicial system.”

He said this racism has to do with “enforcing the drug laws” and then added: “They (blacks) get the death penalty way disproportionately.”

Two groups immediately defended Paul – his supporters and commentators on the left. The former support anything Paul says, and the left supports anything Paul says that portrays America as ugly (see, for example, the defense of Paul by left-wing USA Today columnist Dwayne Wickham, whose columns are regularly devoted to how much blacks suffer from American racism).

Just last month, Paul was asked by a representative of an organization (We Are Change) that holds the government responsible for 9/11, “Why won’t you come out about the truth about 9/11?”

Paul’s response: “Because I can’t handle the controversy. I have the IMF, the Federal Reserve to deal with, the IRS to deal with. Because I just have more – too many – things on my plate. Because I just have too much to do.” The interview is readily available on YouTube.

Whatever the implication of his cryptic response, when Paul is confronted by the mainstream media, he denies that he believes the American government was involved in the 9/11 attacks. But what is undeniable is that Paul, like much of the left, holds America largely responsible for 9/11 because of its foreign policy. That includes its “occupying” of countries all over the world; the sanctions on Saddam Hussein’s Iraq, which Paul and the left claim killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqis; the injustices against Palestinians America has supported (through its support of Israel); etc.

Paul mocks the idea that the primary reason for 9/11 was that people of great evil attacked a very good country – because this is what the evil do, just as they did on the Dec. 7, 1941, when the Japanese regime attacked Pearl Harbor.

It does seem that the Texas congressman’s description of the American justice system as racist is part of Paul’s generally dark view of America.

The claim that America disproportionately executes blacks is a falsehood, disseminated on virtually every left-wing website, from the ACLU to all the anti-death-penalty sites. The only way it can be regarded as true is if the disproportion is in relation to the entire population of the country: Blacks make up about 12 percent of the population and since 1976 have been about 35 percent of those executed for murder. But this is a statistic that tells no truth because it is meaningless in terms of determining alleged racial bias.

This is very easy to prove. Males make up about 50 percent of the American population but make up about 99 percent of those executed. Is the American justice system wildly anti-male?

Of course not. The statistic that matters in assessing bias in executions is the proportion of murderers of a given group who are executed, not the group’s proportion of the entire population.

And here, it is clear that blacks are actually under-represented in executions.

According to the Death Penalty Information Center, an anti-death-penalty organization, between 1976 and January 2012, 441 blacks (35 percent of the total) and 717 whites (55 percent of the total) were executed. Given that blacks committed more than half the murders during that time (52 percent versus 46 percent by whites), if we are to assess racial bias based on proportionality of murderers executed, the system is biased against whites, not blacks.

Because this fact is both obvious and irrefutable, virtually none of the anti-death-penalty sites note it. Instead, they focus on the race of murder victims and even the race of prosecutors – in other words, the race of just about everyone except those convicted of murder.

hey thanks
hadn\'t seen that one :)

but the OP of that thread
just made an accusation
with no corroborating link
to substantiate.

will investigate more :)

lol, that's not even the one I was talking about....theres a few floating around I guess

after researching, the Op of that thread
did not share facts to substantiate his claims.
He claimed $5Million

I can\'t show $5Million

but I can show $500K transferred
from his Presidential PAC to his
House Re-Election Campaign.

[link to imageshack.us]

that is ok with most people. outside of giving it back the most appropriate thing he can do with that money is spend it on getting re-elected.

would you care to prove that statement ???
where did Paul ask his donors if this
was ok ???

I'm a donor...I think it's ok.

well of course i cant prove that. IMO that is common sense but we can agree to disagree on that.

what would you propose he do with that money?

I\'m a donor too
and it\'s not.

Well....sorry. Don't donate anymore..problem solved

Last Edited by Evan03 on 02/06/2012 07:50 PM

so ttthhhaaatttt'ssss what this is about.

you want your money back

give it back to the donors !!!

if you gave your secretary $50
to go fill up with gas in the company car
and she spent it on personal items
such as cigarettes and a case of beer,
would you be happy ???

This is not what it was donated for.

No, not solved.
There are still millions of dollars
floating around in PACs doing
things that the donors did
not approve of.

Do you really think Ron Paul books his own flights or files for reimbursements on anything? It was probably a small mistake by a staff member, get over it.

ok, so say we give the money back......who gets what? would it be a % thing?

this is my assumption.

27k aint shit nor would it be enough to trouble with for RP.

Politics is a crazy game. If you are going to nit pick this stuff, I suggest you just stay out of politics

you missed the whole point
of this thread.

the point of this thread is
to show you that Paul has the same
financial cons working that all the
other candidates do.

He is painted as a savior, yet
he\'s no different than they are.

THAT is what this is about.

the thread on the money transfers
to his House re-election committee
is another thread which I didn\'t author.

I only brought it up when it was
posted by someone else in this thread.

you also missed the point,

he files for reimbursement
for those travel expenses AFTER they
have already been paid for
by a PAC.

He gets the money, not the staff.

So don\'t try to blame this off
on incompetent staff.

He took the money !!!

I am so tired of no accountability
for wrong doings in DC.

Paul hypes on this also,
yet he does the same thing.

Hypocrite much ???

we are getting off topic,
we are combining 2 threads into one.

But yes, each transaction of a donation
should have a name and address.
This is where the money should be returned
to.

Else if it is not, and Paul drops
out of the election or does not use
it or does not win, guess who pockets
ALL that cash, tax free ???

Ron Paul

$27K is just the tip
of the proverbial iceberg.

I already showed you how
the gov pays off candidate
loans.

Politics is a CRIMINALs game.
There I fixed it for ya.

And I am here trying to wake
people up so we can fix it.
This was already shared
in a prior post.

He is doing this country a favor. I agree to pay for wherever he travels.

and I am not a tool.

then fine, you take it out
of your paycheck

but do not take it out of everyones
paycheck called taxes.

by Paul billing the taxpayers
for travel that is already
paid for by a PAC is no different
than somebody mugging you on the
street.

It\'s robbery.

what would that favor be ???

showing everyone how you can
fleece the taxpayers of their
cash by running for president ???

yay evan03 came back! maybe now you can answer these questions....???

did ron paul write a book with one of the 'rebuilding americas defenses' signators, lewis lehrman?

did that book make the case for rothschilds gold?

did ron paul say there is nothing to fear about globalism and a single world currency?

did bildeberg member peter thiel give him 900k?

did he hire zionist bruce fein?

are 'bush insiders' campaigning for him?

dont ignore my questions, theyre simple yes or no questions.

Yep, it was but I find it funny that the shills can only find things like this on RP. This is such bs.