FBI Issues New Warning of Threat from "Anti-Government Extremists"

you are a canadian?

you don't have any dog in this hunt other than you'd actually have to create a military

dr

Yes but due to unforeseen circumstances we have suffered an lack of Organization and our Win may be delayed some-what by of our mega-massive Loss.

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J.J. MacNab, a former tax and insurance expert who is an analyst covering the sovereign movement, has estimated that it has about 100,000 members.
[link to www.chicagotribune.com]

So today there are 100,000 sovereigns?

Last year jj macnab, which btw is bancam spelled backwards, said there were 300,000 sovereigns.
Wouldn't there be more sovereigns this year after occupy and Ron Paul campaigns picking up steam.

JJ writes last January:

For more than 10 years, I have tracked, studied, and infiltrated various factions of the right-wing extremist world, including tax protest and sovereign citizen groups. There are approximately 300,000 of “my guys” in the US today.
You've lost 200,000 "guys"...dude.

In general, a sovereign believes that every individual has more rights and power than any government agency or political body, but that sinister forces behind the government have systematically suppressed this secret knowledge in order to better enslave us all as “subjects.” Depending on the sovereign group, the conspiracy behind the government is run by rich bankers, the Federal Reserve, jewish people, Zionists, the Pope, the Queen of England, or in one extreme case, shape-shifting reptiles.
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JJ MACNAB!!! Don't give all the secrets away in one paragraph...and could you run those numbers for me again!

Something doesn't add up.

J.J. MacNab, a former tax and insurance expert who is an analyst covering the sovereign movement, has estimated that it has about 100,000 members.
[link to www.chicagotribune.com]

So today there are 100,000 sovereigns?

Last year jj macnab, which btw is bancam spelled backwards, said there were 300,000 sovereigns.
Wouldn't there be more sovereigns this year after occupy and Ron Paul campaigns picking up steam.

JJ writes last January:

For more than 10 years, I have tracked, studied, and infiltrated various factions of the right-wing extremist world, including tax protest and sovereign citizen groups. There are approximately 300,000 of “my guys” in the US today.
You've lost 200,000 "guys"...dude.

In general, a sovereign believes that every individual has more rights and power than any government agency or political body, but that sinister forces behind the government have systematically suppressed this secret knowledge in order to better enslave us all as “subjects.” Depending on the sovereign group, the conspiracy behind the government is run by rich bankers, the Federal Reserve, jewish people, Zionists, the Pope, the Queen of England, or in one extreme case, shape-shifting reptiles.
[link to www.redcrayons.net]


JJ MACNAB!!! Don't give all the secrets away in one paragraph...and could you run those numbers for me again!

Something doesn't add up.

They hate and fear non-conformity.

Their darkest fears are people awakening to:
1) Real money
2) Our own sovereignty
3) Their powerlessness
4) The inevitable collapse of their lying, cheating, stealing, killing, Satanic control of this world.

We win. They know it. We know it.


Well said AC! You couldnt be clearer! The wages of sin, is death, they know it and we know it. It makes freedom loving God fearing men want to rise up in defense of what we know as truth, and the sanctity of the freedom inside of each of us. Do they think we will stand by helpless, to defend the future of this country and the ones we love? If we go down their path to distruction will this help their cause? Or do we put our foot up there asses and help them on their merry way!!!!?

Leaving would mean giving up, and I'm not going to do that. I'm here for the long-haul, whether you like it or not. And I'm teaching my kids my beliefs, too. I bet that scares the shit out of you, doesn't it?

You can attempt to pigeon-hole people all you want and assist the government in doing the same, but it won't change a damn thing.

Better be careful painting with that broad brush of yours, you may drip some paint on yourself.

If it's extreme to want a tiny bit of fucking privacy, the right to keep the money I work for and the right to speak out against corruption and genocide, then count me in as an extremist too..

I will gladly admit that each and every piece of shit politician in this country deserves a bullet to the head for their contributions to a corporate controlled government, endless overseas murder and oppression via the bogus and fraudulent legislation they enact.

Fuck the FEDs, fuck DHS, fuck the FDA, EPA, IRS and all other government agencies who promote the downfall of the working man while pocketing our fucking money..

Obama, lick my balls as I wipe them across your face you traitorous pile of puppet shit scum.. $80k to college for a fucking $16 an hour job? Blow me!

TSA? They search the shit out of me every time I fly.. I tell them they suck. They can fuck off too. Fucking dickheads..

Fuck this all, I am sooooooooooooooooooo sick of dealing with the stress of knowing how bad they've done us all when our motherfucking taxes pay their wages! Would you feed your neighbor if they punched you in the face every morning? Fuck no! So why in the fuck do people pay taxes to a system that financially sodomizes them? And on top of it, people actually take pride in voting these assholes into office!!! What in the FUCK is going on here? It's like a fucking comedy show, and the government is the audience, laughing at how fucking dumb we are...

Fuck all government, I call for a complete overhaul. I am extreme.. FUCK OFF IF YOU CAN'T HANDLE IT!

In general, a sovereign believes that every individual has more rights and power than any government agency or political body, but that sinister forces behind the government have systematically suppressed this secret knowledge in order to better enslave us all as “subjects.” Depending on the sovereign group, the conspiracy behind the government is run by rich bankers, the Federal Reserve, jewish people, Zionists, the Pope, the Queen of England, or in one extreme case, shape-shifting reptiles.


WE HAVE A WINNER! Great breakdown! A sovereign seeks and follows the truth where ever it may lead, even unto death! That is power! And not of our own making!!

The wicked follow the corrupt system and suck from its teets until they are fat and lazy. They find pleasure in those that practice such depravity!!! Brute dumb beast everyone of them! Fit only for distruction!! They fear those with more courage than themselves!!

Well hallelujah! I here more fellow comrads on here tonight, than since i joined this site!!! You can crawl up in a corner and whimper like a bitch, or you can face the facts about yourself first and then these assholes in charge and stand for something. I remember a typing phrase taught to me by my father to help me learn how to type! I was in communications in the military and so was he. Back when men believed in God Country and Family! It goes like this.

Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country!!!!

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If you don't like being governed, then by all means, leave. As a matter of fact, what's stopping you?


Ha!!!! Are you with the FBI? Boy your job would be swift and easy then wouldnt it? Its men like you that made me leave the military. These colors dont run you lil piss ant, pussy, boot licking bitch! There is a difference between governance, and being ruled over! Its men like you to stupid to see and know the difference that got us here! It doesnt take me 2 seconds in your presence to smell you, you fucking curr.

Anti-government extremists? Well, that would mean that the FBI should begin arresting their bosses who champion, fund, arm, train, and encourage people to overthrow governments around the world and at home.

The government is running at huge deficits, money that they are now getting from foreigners to fund their "government" is partly running the show. The tax dollars they take from joe six pack American are not enough to sustain big government at interest, so they also work for foreigners, so if they partly work for foreigners, then are they a fully legitimate government of the country? Taxation is partly interest payments on foreign debts, money going out of the pockets of Americans, straight to foreigners, who are not voted for, yet receive these tax monies, so is it taxation without representation?

You mean like eric holder D.O.J.? Who arms a country south of our border? For one of 2 reasons. Either to help rebels over throw there own government, or to help them cause chaos or death in our own country? Right? Didnt we see footage after footage though of armed mexicans running back across our borders by the hundreds, armed with fully auto AK's?

Either way the asshat still has his job. After that revelation, treason anyway you slie it!!! And if mexico has allies? Isnt that an international war crime to arm men who mean harm to this country? The hypocrisy is skyrocketing out of control!

No that would be residents people who have immigrated there.
If you were born there they can not strip you of such a thing.

Yeah but its not passed and it never will be.

Ya we need to get this dude out asap



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You watch theatrical productions that feature the relatives of the enemy. (If you don't know that, then you really haven't passed Conspiracy 101.)

You have no idea what the CONstitution really is *because:*

1) You're not an attorney and not a member of the BAR.
2) You haven't looked up every single word in that LEGAL DOCUMENT with a Bouvier's or a Black's.
3) You haven't read ANY good legal analysis of it, only propaganda that you REPEAT as a meme because it underscores what you already (erroneously) believe to be "true."

That is EXACTLY what I would expect from a cluelss Paultard! You really SHOULD change that moniker to something truthful, OP.

I think a governing body has the right to defend itself against those opposed to it, be it a Board of Directors or a Government.

What is it with americans and being so rebellious? What's so hard about learning the laws of the land and following them?

Yeah they said the same thing about the healthcare bill! The NDAA makes obsolete due process. A fundamental right of the citizens of this country and in essence makes him literally a dictator. An idea Bush was fond of so long as he was the dicktater!! This law legalizes lawlessness for the government and everyones to stupid to see it? its like the law eforcement using military drones on us. Ist that the military being deployed on us? I sure know it is!!

That covers more than 75% of the planet.

NOT!!!!!

Pick up the soap and shut up!


The funny part is they blame people for criticizing the lack an asset backed currency(gold), but THEY permitted the banks to give sub primes, to sell junk bonds to the general population, consider students loan as an asset, make war to destroy and give loans and rebuild annihilated countries with your contractors, controls market liquidity with derivative and complex schemes...

I guess i'll go shopping.

The unconstitutional indefinite detention provision in the 2012 NDAA is a HUGE problem. The American people should be taking a stand against it the same way we stood against SOPA. If we let this one go, we will suffer for it sooner or later.

Please see the bigger picture here...

Stuart - the FBI guy - who probably makes over $120K/year..comes out and says that the new "threat" has genereated 45 arrests in the last 3 years!!! How many convictions? Two cops killed (I am not condoning or approving of that!).....in the last 3 years?!?!?!

But, we are to believe that after many cops killed and many ICE agents killed by illegals crossing the border (not to mention the rapes, robberies and murders commited by illegals)...that the "BIG" new threat are "sovereign citizens," "people who think the US is bankrupt"....this is the threat and not the illegals....this is the threat and not the Muslims trying to blow stuff up?!?!

I won't bother to go into the drug killings, etc....

Where are there priorities?!?!?!

Can't tell whether this is sarcasm or not. If not you would be okay with the Nuremberg laws, Jim Crow laws?

Would you be okay with slaves being counted as 2/3 of a human being? That was the law of the land.

Are you okay with the gulag in Soviet Russia? The mass murder of the Kulaks? Mao killing upwards of 25 million of his own people?

The mass murder of the Armenians? The Cambodians?

All done by legally constituted government.

Are you okay with genocide? Actually it was democide, murder of people by their own governments. So are you okay with this?

All of the genocide/democide was done by "legally constituted government".


200 million people were murdered by their own governments in the 20th century, the people who did so were "learning the laws of the land and following them".

If your god is government you are lost as a human being.

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Sir, you are the one in error.

Anyone who has at least an 8th grade education of the American English language can tell you exactly what the United States Constitution and The Bill of Rights say and to whom they were meant for.

You've not only been hurt but you are also amazingly scared! Your words brazenly project this!

Do not presume to tell the American People what a constitution is and what it is supposed to say compared to modern day usage, terms which are changed "legally" to mean something else entire of what the definition was to mean originally.

You are one of THOSE people, you know here, what is referred to as a government shill, or do you want to tell us that the definition of that word has changed too, according the "Bouvier's or a Black's???"

45 arrests...308,000,000 people...0.0000146%....this "great threat" has generated this many arrests...DUI is a bigger problem...domestic abuse is a bigger problem...driving while sleeping is a bigger problem!

Nice post ac, i hope OP doesnt think im railroading her thread, im just passionate about the truth. Yes whats up is now down and vice versa

They have no valid moral, legal or ethical position for this. They have only lies and hiding behind a badge and the power of the state they represent, for now.