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<<Advancing Bird Flu-H5N1...now its Vietnam and spreading?

 
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Good morning UK anon!

It would appear that we share a common afliction..no?

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Good morning UK anon!

It would appear that we share a common afliction..no?
 Quoting: arkay

I take it that your not sleeping well ?
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Good morning UK anon!

It would appear that we share a common afliction..no?
 Quoting: arkay

I take it that your not sleeping well ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35518683


Occasionally, lots of work half completed at home and the place is upside down at present.

Be nice to get back to normal soon.
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It would seem that a little information in the right hands goes a very long way.

Though much of the jargon in this commentary is above this persons head, the general direction that it takes is that with decent and complete information when it can be provided goes a very long way in tracking the evolution, in this case of the novel coronavirus.

With such excellent deductive abilities, it is a shame that more complete information is not made available fore routinely, especially when the benefits can be so great and with something as threatening as this coronavirus is presenting so far to date.

It is interresting to note that this commentary is already signalling a degree of recombinionics between different cases and the question again must stand as to just how readily this coronavirus is suited to rapid evolutionary change.

As previously observed here, so little is known of this bugs characteristics that very careful management of all aspects of its potential behavour would be indicated for the most cautious of approaches to its presence.

Border security and screening would at this time seem to be more than simple common sense and clearly justified.

Global health management authorities really are being far far too relaxed with this bug and I fear that it will become a seriously devistating and totally uncontrollable pandemic killer as a consequence of tardy and unjustified assumptions.

All the warnings are clearly present, but precautionary heed is being ignored.

Where are the WHO when they are need the most?

Enjoying the high life and sleeping on their watch?

Irresponsible is a word that comes to mind.

If this bug gets a foothold then culpable will also have to join the vocabulary of appropriate descriptions for them, as well.

Do they even care?

Recombination In Qatar Beta2c Coronavirus Sequence
Recombinomics Commentary 00:45
March 3, 2013


The recent release of the whole genome sequence of the index case (60M) for UK cluster, England2, as well as the Wellcome Trust sequence for the first Qatari case (49M) which is designated as Human betacoronavirus 2c England-Qatar/2012 and exactly matches England1, allows for precise analysis of the human sequences.

The England2 sequence, in conjunction with the previous EMC/2012 and England1 sequences, define the consensus sequence for the novel human beta2c sub-clade. Comparison of each sequence to the consensus demonstrates the stability and close relatedness of the human sequences, which have matches with the consensus in the 99.8-99.9% range.


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We have previously reported on the current situation in Cambodia with H5N1 avian influenza.

This article is notable because it appears that at least the Chineese are not prepared to take chances with the health of their people as they are now also border screening Cambodian immigrants for temperature abnormalities and possible infection with this virus.

Other previous information has revealed that this same regime has already implimented the same risk management protocols in relation to the novel coronavirus and one must question why the rest of the world is sitting back and waiting for the dissaster before acting.

Of course all other nations are waiting for the World Health Organization to issue advisory cautionary notices before they act, but China to its credit, at least can think and act for itself.

Its also interresting to remember that it wasnt all that long ago that the WHO very sternly reminded all its member states that it was the single authority in matters such as this and that all member states had forgone their sovereign rights in these matters being signatories to the charters that the WHO hold.

Apparently China feels the need to act more precationary and responsible than the apparent world leading authority.

This would have to be a case of one-upmanship and powerplay, unfortunately the currency is all our lives.

I think, get off you collective backsides, earn you keep and do your job WHO.

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At present, Hong Kong has suspended imports of eggs of Cambodia.

Mainland China immigrants from Cambodia to measure the body temperature, to prevent the entry of bird flu.


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This next piece is difficult to piece together, but essentially it primarily speaks of an ill traveller returning from Saudi Arabia where the person of concern had been observing Umrah and upon return to Singapore has developed a severe respiratory illness.

Most of the story concerns the cost of treatment, however what has alerted me to this story is the consistancy with travellers journeying to Saudi Arabia who seem to be being exposed to illnesses.

Now the new novel coronavirus has not as yet been signalled in this particular case, but I have a strong feeling that time will show that this is the cause of this travellers illness.

Im not one to single out specific causes but I seriously fear that religious pilgrims may suffer seriously with travel to Saudi Arabia in the forthcoming religous ceremonies later this year.

One must now wonder if perhaps this novel coronavirus could be vectored by some small insect, something like mosquitos or perhaps flees in much the same way as both malaria and bubonic plague is transmitted.

Could these insects be some sort of intermediate vector, making tracing this coronavirus far more difficult to achieve.

Claiming Travel Time to Contact Family Hard
Monday, March 4, 2013 - 00:27:11 | Home | Viewed: 73 Times

BANJARMASIN - Tour and Travel Maratus confirms remain responsible to repatriate Siti Norbayah (79), a resident of Tanjung, Tabalong, which is currently isolated in the Hospital Changi General Hospital Singapore. However, the problem is not that simple.
"We are still obligated to repatriate him to Banjarmasin. The ticket is still there. Suppose the fire, we are ready to change, "said H Noval of Maratus Tour and Travel, which met in his office on the number Citrawati Banjarmasin Road East, yesterday (3/2).
Regarding the question of hospital costs and handling Norbayah for Singapore, H Noval had another explanation. According to him, this problem arises when the family began to travel demand pay hospital bills amounting to Rp 25 million. Oval, as he is fondly called said he was surprised, because in the travel package deal, there is no such obligation.
"The difference is that the accident caused our travel," he said. "But that does not mean we get out of hand. We lobbied, explained that the bill was too heavy and they are not located. And the RS states cost affair later, most importantly the family comes first, "he added.
She told him, Norbayah was in unconscious condition while traveling home from Jeddah to Singapore, 25 February. The airline refused to repatriate Norbayah. Suspected bird flu and acute lung, Norbayah isolated.
"Isolation of the standard is already operational at any airport. So instead we neglected, but isolated, "he said.
Emphasized Oval, while Norbayah taking Umrah package, wal afiat healthy condition.


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Ok, this story is just one day before the last post hit the radar.

It is however notable by its timing and of course the spin that it appears to be carrying.

Im naturally suspicous when stories so closely related occur so close together.

Is this a case of making sure that the horse is in front of the cart, when in reality someone in authority has been caught with his pants down.

Sounds suspicously like someone is pulling strings and attempting to cover his backside to me!

SARS-like virus has low chance of spreading in S'pore: MOH

By Ng Lian Cheong, Olivia Siong | Posted: 03 March 2013 2230 hrs

SINGAPORE: Singapore's Health Ministry has said that chances of the new SARS-like virus spreading in Singapore are low, especially since severe secondary infections among the close contacts of the cases is uncommon.

13 cases involving the novel coronavirus have been reported in the Middle East and United Kingdom since April last year.

The Health Ministry said it has not received any reports of such cases here.

It is also keeping close watch on the developments of the new virus, and working with the World Health Organisation and the international community to remain vigilant for the emergence of new cases of novel coronavirus infection.


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This article has absolutely nothing to do with the core topic of this thread!

BUT, while doing my usual research Ive come across this and it is just too much, "in your face" to remain in the backblocks.

How can 92% of people have severe genetic dissorders in any community?

Preposterous...there absolutely has to be a serious problem with screening techniques.

This story implies that the entire population of the country in question has significant genetic defects.

For crying out loud, we cant even identify that level of issues, maybe in about another 10 or so years, if we really thought it would be a good idea..

What ever happened to the traditional method...I love you...will you marry me...great then we will deal with the rest as it happens.

There was one notable individual that had different ideas, but he really didnt stay in favor for very long and fortunately we still have brunettes and redheads amongst us..no thanks to Adolf!

Oh, slap me around, have I really read this?

KUWAIT CITY, March 3: The Pre-Marriage Medical Examination Center has asked 90.7 percent of 1,295 men and women planning to get married not to press ahead with their wedding plans because they tested positive for various genetic disorders like thalassemia and acute anemia but 9.3 percent of them insisted on starting a family of their own despite the health risks involved, reports Al-Seyassah daily quoting Director of the Social Health Department at the Ministry of Health Dr Yaqoub Al-Kandari.

According to Al-Kandari, the center has, so far, succeeded in achieving its goals since the implementation of law number 31/2008, which requires soon-to-be married couples to undergo different tests to ascertain that they will not pass on genetic disorders to their children. He said this is part of the steps taken by the ministry to prevent genetically-transmitted diseases and disabilities.


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Under the headline comes this story.

Disease hits cattle, poultry in Mekong Delta

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Animal health authorities in Kien Giang Province have destroyed 16 infected chickens from a flock of 559, after they received test results that confirmed bird flu virus in the poultry.

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[link to www.saigon-gpdaily.com.vn]

What Im sure everyone will be wondering is why only a tiny handfull of birds were culled when they came from a significant flock?

Surely this will continue to progress into a full blown flock wide infestation, requiring their total destruction.

As sad as it might be, once this bug is present then infection will occur from all manner of surfaces, and from the very soil that these birds will scratch up.

There isnt an easy out in these circumstances, only the complete sterilization of the entire area and removal of all live specimens no matter their apparent condition.
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Good morning UK anon!

It would appear that we share a common afliction..no?
 Quoting: arkay

I take it that your not sleeping well ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35518683


Occasionally, lots of work half completed at home and the place is upside down at present.

Be nice to get back to normal soon.
 Quoting: arkay


take it slow arkay rome wasn;t built in a day
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Good morning UK anon!

It would appear that we share a common afliction..no?
 Quoting: arkay

I take it that your not sleeping well ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35518683


Occasionally, lots of work half completed at home and the place is upside down at present.

Be nice to get back to normal soon.
 Quoting: arkay


take it slow arkay rome wasn;t built in a day
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Thank you.

Its nice to have an angel nearby to help when its needed.

I owe you and am unable to repay the debt.

Perhaps these will go some small way.

hf hf
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China continues to lead the world with its progressive actions.

Here we see them offering H5N1 vaccinations for people in high risk professions.

Publicly funded H5N1 vaccine available for high-risk people
By Joy Lee,The China Post
March 3, 2013, 12:03 am


TAIPEI, Taiwan -- A publicly funded H5N1 flu vaccine is available until Aug. 31 for people over 18 years old and at high risk, the Centers for Disease Control (CDC, &#30142;&#30149;&#31649;&#21046;&#23616;) said yesterday.
CDC Deputy Director-General Chou Chih-hau (&#21608;&#24535;&#28009;) said that people at high risk of suffering from the H5N1 flu are those working as coastguardsmen, disease control medical personnel, airport security agents and individuals who are going to epidemic areas. However, Chou suggested that pregnant women should not have the vaccination.


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Another outbreak of H5N1 in poultry has been reported in Vietnam.

GENERAL INFO
Disease Event ID Reporting date Observation date
174973 05/03/2013 05/03/2013

LOCATION
Region Admin 1 (Country) Locality Lat/Long Quality of Coordinates
Asia Kien Giang (Viet Nam) Hamlets Master Nam 10.256422496/104.9116803727 Centroid Admin2

DISEASE
Status DISEASE Serotype Source
Confirmed Highly pathogenic avian influenza H5N1 National authorities
OverlaysDisease Event
Admin 1 Level (GAUL)
Global Poultry Density
Production Systems
World Rivers
Base LayerCountries/Territories (GAUL)



SPECIES AFFECTED
An.Type An.Class Species At Risk Cases Deaths Destroyed Slaughtered
Domestic Birds chicken 1250


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arkay when i put h5n1 in search your not coming up i had to google vietnam
h5n1 arkay to find you , hope your ok hfhfhf
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now we are back to normal sigh of relief hf
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arkay when i put h5n1 in search your not coming up i had to google vietnam
h5n1 arkay to find you , hope your ok hfhfhf
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Hi, yes I gave up trying to post yesterday, from what it looks like GLP was attacked again, it seems that things have been fixed now so back to normal again I hope.

Nice youve been keeping an eye out, thank you.

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This isnt entirely unexpected news, but it does give a glimpse of just how little it takes for a situation to turn around from being relatively controlled to potentially an uncontrollable situation in a very short space of time.

We are talking about five fresh outbreaks of H5N1 that have emerged virtually overnight in Vietnam, where this situation has occurred because of a change in weather.

With large and numberous outbreaks such as these, we have the inevidible accompanying chances of human infection and with each case of that comes the risk of the virus mutating and finding better opportunities for H2H transmission.

Unfortunately one day this bug will develop that characteristic, it really is just a matter of the right circumstances and by the time we realize it, things may have escaped our ability to control an outbreak, ending in the inevidable pandemic.

Vietnam is facing a high risk of bird flu outbreaks due to unfavorable weather conditions which reduce the animals' resistance according to the Animal Health Department under the Ministry of Agriculture and Rural Development (MARD) on Wednesday. The disease has recurred in five provinces of northern Dien Bien, central Khanh Hoa, and southern Kien Giang, Hau Giang and Tay Ninh, where more than 14,000 chickens and ducks were affected and culled. Specifically, the disease re-occurred in Tay Ninh border province, and at a site only about 30 km from Cambodia, where reports were made public about the bird flu affecting human beings.

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There has been another fatal case of a person infected with the novel coronavirus and again this case was linked to Saudi Arabia.

The patient, a 69-year-old male, was hospitalized on 10 February 2013 and died on 19 February 2013. Preliminary investigation indicated that the patient had no contact with previously reported cases of NCoV infection and did not have recent history of travel.

The above comments from the March 6 WHO update describe another 2013 fatal beta2c case from Saudi Arabia, which increases the similarities between the current novel coronavirus outbreak and the SARS-CoV outbreak in 2002/2003. The fatal cases raise concerns that the current surveillance is missing the vast majority of nCoV cases, which are not fatal.


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The case of the effectiveness of vaccinations has come under scrutiny again in another study with some interresting findings.

Here we see that it has been found that those who who have been vaccinated for the flu in consecutive years gain no effective protection from the flu in their second year in spite of having been vaccinated.

This news must surly have a serious impact on the thinking of those who would mandatorily require annual vaccinations in some professions as has been the growing trend in recent times.


Vaccination and protection: Getting flu shot 2 years in a row may lower protection
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Experts are puzzled by a new study in which influenza vaccination seemed to provide little or no protection against flu in the 2010-11 season and in which the only participants who seemed to benefit from the vaccine were those who hadn't been vaccinated the season before. [See: Ohmit SE, Petrie JG, Malosh RE, et al: Influenza vaccine effectiveness in the community and the household. Clin Infect Dis 2013 Feb 14 [link to cid.oxfordjournals.org] The investigators recruited 328 households in Michigan before the flu season started and followed them through the season. Overall, they found that the infection risk was nearly the same in vaccinated and unvaccinated participants, indicating no significant vaccine-induced protection. That contrasted sharply with several other observational studies that found the vaccine to yield about 60 percent protection during the same season.

In trying to figure out why the effectiveness was so low, the researchers sifted their data in different ways, said Arnold S Monto, MD, of the University of Michigan, senior author of the study. "We discovered that if you separated out those that had not been vaccinated the previous year, you got percentages close to what were seen in the major vaccine effectiveness studies. "We felt it had to be separated out." The vaccine was found to be 62 percent effective in those who hadn't been vaccinated the previous year. That was similar to findings in the other observational studies and also to the results of a recent, rigorous meta-analysis of randomized controlled trials. In contrast, those who had been vaccinated 2 years in a row (before both the 2009-10 and 2010-11 seasons) got no significant protection. An additional finding was that the vaccine did not seem to protect participants who were exposed to flu in their own household, though the numbers in that arm of the study were small.


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[link to www.promedmail.org]

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06 Mar 2013 PRO/EDR>Influenza (24): USA, vaccine effectiveness
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I apologise for being a bit sketchy with my posts of recent times, my computer continues to beg for new components which I am assured are, "on the way".

This article again from India continues to highlight the battle they are fighting there with H1N1 swine flu this year.

New Delhi: A total of 39 people tested positive for swine flu on Tuesday, taking the number of people infected by the Influenza A (H1N1) virus in the capital to 1,137, an official said. There were no reports of any more deaths.

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Cambodia-Bird-flu cases scare villagers-42 are tested negative
Last Updated on 07 March 2013 By Khoun Leakhana and Claire Slattery
Consumed by fears about the spread of bird flu in Cambodia, dozens of people in Banteay Meanchey province descended on the provincial hospital on Tuesday, worried they had caught the disease, only to find they were suffering from common colds.bsflag
spockThe scare apparently took hold after several chickens grew sick and died in the area last month, according to a Malai district villager, Ly Khlei, 38, who said many people were suffering flu-like symptoms, including high fevers and coughing.
Director of Mongkal Borie Cambodian-Japanese Friendship hospital Chan Vuthynavuth said 42 people were tested for H5N1 on Tuesday evening, but none of them had caught the virus, nor were their conditions serious.
Heng Bun Hor, director of the provincial agriculture department, said authorities had sent samples of local poultry to Phnom Penh to test for the virus and the results would be known by Friday.
The Kingdom is facing..
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Cambodia-Bird-flu cases scare villagers-42 are tested negative
Last Updated on 07 March 2013 By Khoun Leakhana and Claire Slattery
Consumed by fears about the spread of bird flu in Cambodia, dozens of people in Banteay Meanchey province descended on the provincial hospital on Tuesday, worried they had caught the disease, only to find they were suffering from common colds.bsflag
spockThe scare apparently took hold after several chickens grew sick and died in the area last month, according to a Malai district villager, Ly Khlei, 38, who said many people were suffering flu-like symptoms, including high fevers and coughing.
Director of Mongkal Borie Cambodian-Japanese Friendship hospital Chan Vuthynavuth said 42 people were tested for H5N1 on Tuesday evening, but none of them had caught the virus, nor were their conditions serious.
Heng Bun Hor, director of the provincial agriculture department, said authorities had sent samples of local poultry to Phnom Penh to test for the virus and the results would be known by Friday.
The Kingdom is facing..
[link to www.phnompenhpost.com]
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hi tray fish good to see you around hf
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old information but may prove to be a useful link for further outbreaks
[link to ecdc.europa.eu]
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[link to www.healthcare-today.co.uk]

an interesting look at the science behind the investagations
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A patient from Saudi Arabia died today from a novel coronavirus (NCoV) infection, becoming the world's 13th case and seventh death.
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A patient from Saudi Arabia died today from a novel coronavirus (NCoV) infection, becoming the world's 13th case and seventh death.
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A patient from Saudi Arabia died today from a novel coronavirus (NCoV) infection, becoming the world's 13th case and seventh death.

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