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India is reporting a fresh outbreak of H5N1 avian influenza which has occurred at a commercial poultry farm.

The scary Bird Flu contagion has taken Madhepura district within its sweep where more than 800 chickens have perished during the last four days. The avian 'flu viral' was first noticed at Madheli and Jirwa panchayats under Shankerpur block in the district where chickens perished after dozing off and excreting green faeces in some of poultry farms. A poultry firm owner Mohammad Tahir is extremely dejected as over 500 chicken of his poultry farm had perished.

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Back to the matter of the novel coronavirus and the manner that its reporting has and indeed continues to be handled by responsible authorities.

Regular readers here will be aware of my crusade against the World Health Organization for the modifying of its reporting of these types of incidents.

They have changed their reporting periods from immediate to monthly, which is an extremely dangerous and unjustified thing to do when dealing with these type of pathogens, essentially deliberately giving them an ability to propogate, a full months head start before anyone can learn of any new outbreak or threat.

It is the most irresponsible, (well, culpable might be a better description), action, that such an organization could ever contemplate, let alone actually introduce, and is yet be explained.

The comments in this next article, made, and coming from the likes of their author with the professional expertise and long standing and highly respected background, to be in the perfect position to make those assertions, only reflects that we have agreement with the position and stance on this same topic that I have been promoting.

So, I direct this question directly to the World Health Organization without apology.

arkay

When is the World Health Organization going to provide us all with an explaination for their highly dubious decision to report monthly when "immediate" can be available and is the only justifiable and responsible reporting sequence that should be provided to the people of the world, whom your charter demands that you protect.

KSA Beta2c Coronavirus Reporting Delays
Recombinomics Commentary 14:30
March 13, 2013


The patient, a 39-year-old male, developed symptoms on 24 February 2013. He was hospitalized on 28 February 2013 and died on 2 March 2013.

The above comments from the latest WHO update on coronavirus infections reflect reporting delays which continue to increase concerns that only a small fraction of the infections are being reported. The novel coronavirus produces a wild range of clinical presentations including mild cases, but only fatal cases have been reported in 2013 from the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia (KSA).

The track record of reports from WHO and the KSA Ministry of Health has lacked transparency, which also suggests that human to human (H2H) transmission is significantly higher than the reported confirmed cases. The three 2013 cases reported by the KSA MoH have been fatal and information on symptomatic contacts has been absent.


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WOW...!!!

Ok, Ive heard some utter BS and SPIN in my days, but...

Well lets just say that these utterances beg for their originators to be immediately de-registerred and possibly prosecuted for professionally offering such dangerous, inaccurate and completely missleading comments.

They absolutely have to be the most reckless and potentially damaging opinions I have ever seen coming from the likes of these imbiciles posing as professionals.

The impression they give to lay people is utterly contemptuous, and in my opinion, anything they ever utter from today forward should be completely dissmissed and dissregarded as being totally without any credibility or reliability and just the rantings of idiots.

WOW...!!!

More Media Myths On Beta2c Coronavirus Transmission
Recombinomics Commentary 16:30
March 13, 2013


"Once it gets you, it's a very serious infection," said Dr. William Schaffner, an infectious disease specialist at Vanderbilt University Medical Center in Nashville.
Fortunately, he added, the virus is "very difficult to acquire."

Dr. Susan Gerber, a medical epidemiologist in the CDC's Division of Viral Diseases, agrees.

There's no evidence of sustained human-to-human transmission, she said, "where you see a chain of many cases going person to person to person."

"People shouldn't freak out," she added. "There's no evidence that this virus is easily spread, say, across a room."

The above comments on nCoV human to human (H2H) are largely based on negative data which lacks credibility. There have been three lab confirmed clusters, and all three clusters include symptomatic contacts who tested negative. Moreover, in the largest cluster, most of the symptomatic cases were designated as probable cases, based on interviews with symptomatic health care workers and relatives.

Most of the key detail (disease onset dates and relationships between probable cases), has been withheld for the ICU cluster in Jordan last April. However, local media reports and WHO updates indocate that the cluster involved at least 12 people, including 2 doctors, 7 nurses, and two family members of health care workers (HCWs). Outbreaks at ICU’s of a rare mysterious disease are usually linked to a treated patient, as was seen in the SARS-CoV outbreak in March of 2003. Like the current nCoV, SARS-CoV was present at higher levels in the lower respiratory tract and detection in the upper respiratory tract was a challenge. Moreover HCWs were at risk because the hospitalized cases had severe infections and coughing or intubation procedures could spread the virus “across a room”. The key signature of the SARS spread was super-spreaders, who could infect many contacts, who were typically HCWs.


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WOW...!!!

Ok, Ive heard some utter BS and SPIN in my days, but...

Well lets just say that these utterances beg for their originators to be immediately de-registerred and possibly prosecuted for professionally offering such dangerous, inaccurate and completely missleading comments.

They absolutely have to be the most reckless and potentially damaging opinions I have ever seen coming from the likes of these imbiciles posing as professionals.

The impression they give to lay people is utterly contemptuous, and in my opinion, anything they ever utter from today forward should be completely dissmissed and dissregarded as being totally without any credibility or reliability and just the rantings of idiots.

WOW...!!!

More Media Myths On Beta2c Coronavirus Transmission
Recombinomics Commentary 16:30
March 13, 2013


"Once it gets you, it's a very serious infection," said Dr. William Schaffner, an infectious disease specialist at Vanderbilt University Medical Center in Nashville.
Fortunately, he added, the virus is "very difficult to acquire."

Dr. Susan Gerber, a medical epidemiologist in the CDC's Division of Viral Diseases, agrees.

There's no evidence of sustained human-to-human transmission, she said, "where you see a chain of many cases going person to person to person."

"People shouldn't freak out," she added. "There's no evidence that this virus is easily spread, say, across a room."

The above comments on nCoV human to human (H2H) are largely based on negative data which lacks credibility. There have been three lab confirmed clusters, and all three clusters include symptomatic contacts who tested negative. Moreover, in the largest cluster, most of the symptomatic cases were designated as probable cases, based on interviews with symptomatic health care workers and relatives.

Most of the key detail (disease onset dates and relationships between probable cases), has been withheld for the ICU cluster in Jordan last April. However, local media reports and WHO updates indocate that the cluster involved at least 12 people, including 2 doctors, 7 nurses, and two family members of health care workers (HCWs). Outbreaks at ICU’s of a rare mysterious disease are usually linked to a treated patient, as was seen in the SARS-CoV outbreak in March of 2003. Like the current nCoV, SARS-CoV was present at higher levels in the lower respiratory tract and detection in the upper respiratory tract was a challenge. Moreover HCWs were at risk because the hospitalized cases had severe infections and coughing or intubation procedures could spread the virus “across a room”. The key signature of the SARS spread was super-spreaders, who could infect many contacts, who were typically HCWs.


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Before anyone makes any comment on the above post.

Yep, I agree, pretty heavy speak.

But if I can manage to get some professionals to think before they open their mouths, then the heavy speak is appropriate.

And I continue to endorse my stance on this, they are way outside where their "Duty of Care" rests.

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More data on the novel coronavirus has come to light.

This set of data relates to the cases in Britan where there was a co-infection with H1N1 and the Novel coronavirus.

Again the novel coronavirus can be traced back to Saudi Arabia.

Not just is this case tracable to Saudi Arabia, it too as with some other cases, can be traced a little more specifically.

Now this is a delicate situation that does require very special delicacy in the manner that it is handled.

Up till now, I havent witnessed any direct reference to what I am about to air, and that is probably because any observer would, like myself, be very reluctant to draw attention to this fact and the possible implications that it could infer.

I certainly dont not want to be accused of anything other than straightforward observation for what appears to be occuring, however, the simple facts are pointing to a link between the spread of this coronavirus and the observance of Umrah at Mecca by pilgrims travelling to Saudi Arabia.

Now, before anyone points a finger at this author, please allow me to continue with my further observations here as there is no way that I wish to be accused of any religous bias of negative treatment in any shape or form.

The way I do see this is that this coronavirus does as we know have its most likely reservour somewhere in Saudi Arabia, and that is yet to be discovered.

Those people that have contracted this bug while observing their Umrah are just a very tiny sample and not the whole of those that have contracted this infection, and to be honest here we do have to acknowledge the fact that this specific group are a congregation of many in a small confined area, which therefore does make the incidence of infection in this specific demographic considerably more likely, and of greater interest.

This is where my case lies and nowhere else, simply as a matter of probability.

But, there is more here underlying this characteristic, and looking past the reason for the grouping then there are possible opportunities for discovery of some desperately needed facts.

Does this specific group have more commonalities that might lead us to the reservour?

Are there other common factors and what are they, that might be more generally associated with this demographic that could offer further clues.

For instance, cleaning.

In Saudai Arabia, this is a massive undertaking for the prayer mats of the pilgrims and while it is a common denominator for all the pilgrims the place/s that this cleaning occurs might also be common ground for other cleaning services for other non pilgrim visitors.

Could this be a common connecting link.

Could the general storage of the majority of the prayer mats while in low demand, be where this reservour has managed to hide with only occasional outbreaks, what is the state of those storage facilities?

Are they able to be penetrated by perhaps bats?

These are the trains of thought that I think might be fruitful in following, as at least so far, they are likely to be the most common set of shared behavours that any group has so far presented with, that could shed light into an area that has so far elluded those who would look for this bugs reservour.

In the end it might just turn out to be that these pilgrims might yet lead us to being able to eliminate this danger to humanity before it gets out of hand.

It is food for thought.

HPIV-2 In UK Beta2c Coronavirus Contacts
Recombinomics Commentary 23:45
March 15, 2013


In a nose and throat swab taken on 10 February, nCoV and type 2 parainfluenza virus were detected.

She tested positive for nCoV on a single sputum sample taken on 13 February and positive for type 2 parainfluenza virus on a nose and throat swab taken on 15 February.

The above comments from a Eurosurveillance paper on the UK nCoV cluster describe the detection of HPIV-2 (human type 2 parainfluenza virus) in the son (39M) of the UK index case (in red) who died, as well as the sister (30F) of the index case (in blue), who recovered without medical attention or hospitalization. The index case was also co-infected (with H1N1pdm09), raising concerns that many nCoV will be misdiagnosed based on detection of the co-infecting agent.


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the simple facts are pointing to a link between the spread of this coronavirus and the observance of Umrah at Mecca by pilgrims travelling to Saudi Arabia.

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Novel coronavirus
Updated: March 15, 2013
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In fall 2012, a novel (new) coronavirus was identified in a small number of cases of persons who went to or came from Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Jordan. In February, a family cluster of three cases was identified in the United Kingdom. The first case was confirmed in a resident of the United Kingdom with recent travel history to Pakistan and Saudi Arabia. Two additional cases were identified from the same family and both had no prior history of travel. This suggests that these two new cases may have acquired the infection through human-to-human contact with the relative; however, the risk of contracting this infection is still considered to be very low.
For the latest updates o Travellers should note that they may be subject to quarantine measures in some countries if showing flu-like symptoms. [link to www.phac-aspc.gc.ca]
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Evidence of person-to-person transmission within a family cluster of novel coronavirus infections, UK, Feb 2013

In February 2013, novel coronavirus (nCoV) infection was diagnosed in an adult male in the United Kingdom with severe respiratory illness, who had travelled to Pakistan and Saudi Arabia 10 days before symptom onset. Contact tracing identified 2 secondary cases among family members without recent travel: one developed severe respiratory illness and died, the other an influenza-like illness. No other severe cases were identified or nCoV detected in respiratory samples among 135 contacts followed for 10 days.

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the simple facts are pointing to a link between the spread of this coronavirus and the observance of Umrah at Mecca by pilgrims travelling to Saudi Arabia.

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h1n1 is combining with corona virus , perhaps starting notified cases in saudi.
But still quite possible there are/have been other cases that have been misdiagnosed or missed all together , perhaps we need to concerned with this mutation rather than pointing fingers , any large gathering is for sure going to to be closely monitored and if necessary cancelled.

This is, I believe not the first time, the H1N1 virus as been combined was there not a case in egypt a few years back ?
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the simple facts are pointing to a link between the spread of this coronavirus and the observance of Umrah at Mecca by pilgrims travelling to Saudi Arabia.

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h1n1 is combining with corona virus , perhaps starting notified cases in saudi.
But still quite possible there are/have been other cases that have been misdiagnosed or missed all together , perhaps we need to concerned with this mutation rather than pointing fingers , any large gathering is for sure going to to be closely monitored and if necessary cancelled.

This is, I believe not the first time, the H1N1 virus as been combined was there not a case in egypt a few years back ?
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it seems that the h1n1 is potentially the trigger for a pandemic as it combines relatively easily.
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the simple facts are pointing to a link between the spread of this coronavirus and the observance of Umrah at Mecca by pilgrims travelling to Saudi Arabia.

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h1n1 is combining with corona virus , perhaps starting notified cases in saudi.
But still quite possible there are/have been other cases that have been misdiagnosed or missed all together , perhaps we need to concerned with this mutation rather than pointing fingers , any large gathering is for sure going to to be closely monitored and if necessary cancelled.

This is, I believe not the first time, the H1N1 virus as been combined was there not a case in egypt a few years back ?
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[link to thebirdflupandemic.com]


it seems that the h1n1 is potentially the trigger for a pandemic as it combines relatively easily.
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A sample taken from a 28 year-old man who arrived at the port of
Safaga from Saudi Arabia after performing Umrah [pilgrimage] has
tested positive for bird and swine flu [that is, presumably avian
influenza (H5N1) virus and pandemic (H1N1) 2009 virus infections]. He
was immediately detained and held in isolation in a hospital in
Hurghada. Mohammad Rifai, director-general of preventative medicine
stated that this case is the 3rd in 2 days. [The other 2 are a
35-year-old Italian tourist also retained at the hospital in Hurghada
and] another pilgrim, 30 years old, who has been detained in Safaga
Central Hospital. Rifai pointed out that a sample from a 38-year-old
citizen has tested negative.

Another 2 cases have been detained in Mansoura fever hospital on
suspicion of similar illness.

Five cases, including 4 children, suspected of having contracted
"bird flu" infection [presumably avian influenza (H5N1) virus
infection] have been detained in Mansoura Chest hospital


these are not recent but I think important to note .
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h1n1 coronavirus is it as i suspect taking genes from h5n1 and h1n1 mutating into novel corona virus , only time will tell as I have said before I am not medically trained ,but research i have done suggests the above links .
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Arkay do you recall we spoke regarding this on a previous occasion?
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“Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow.”

Albert Einsteinhf lets hope people learn from this thread thanks arkay
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the simple facts are pointing to a link between the spread of this coronavirus and the observance of Umrah at Mecca by pilgrims travelling to Saudi Arabia.

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h1n1 is combining with corona virus , perhaps starting notified cases in saudi.
But still quite possible there are/have been other cases that have been misdiagnosed or missed all together , perhaps we need to concerned with this mutation rather than pointing fingers , any large gathering is for sure going to to be closely monitored and if necessary cancelled.

This is, I believe not the first time, the H1N1 virus as been combined was there not a case in egypt a few years back ?
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No one knows where the virus came from, but scientists have an idea. When researchers ran the genetic sequence through a library of known coronaviruses, it closely matched a strain that resides in pipistrelle bats. If the connection with bats sounds familiar, there is good reason. The Sars virus was also tracked to bats, though it spread to humans via infected civet cats. The suspicion over the latest virus prompted the Saudi Arabian government to call in the Columbia University team to survey bats in the surrounds of Bisha city, home to the first patient identified with the virus by Zaki. The team has yet to publish its findings, but whatever they are, they will not complete the picture. The first animal found to harbour the virus might not be the one that spreads it to people
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it appears co-infection is not rare

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