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<<Advancing Bird Flu-H5N1...Now following MERS and Ebola approaching PANDEMICS>>>

 
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Turning to why we do this, there has been a new report of two more people testing positive for MERS-cov again in Saudi Arabia.

While every case is equally very worrisome , to see health care workers contracting this horrible disease when they are doing all they can to help others suffering from it, just seems to add an extra edge of distastefullmess to this mennace.

Lets hope and pray that they are able to make a speedy and complete recovery.

Two healthcare workers in Saudi Arabia became ill from patients who have the SARS-like virus - newly named the MERS-CoV virus, experts say. The SARS-like virus, identified as the novel coronavirus, was first detected in March 2012. It has caused 49 confirmed cases of infection and 27 deaths, officials at the World Health Organization in Geneva, Switzerland, said.

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Hi All,

Thank you for your kind words they are greatly appreciated.

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Arkay hugs, another dr visit, another push for meds, another dr visit in 3 weeks, its like a twilight zone episode.


... AND the band played on!


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ALERT>>>THIS IS BAD NEWS.

Ok folks, first up I apolagize for being a bit lax over the last week or so.

While I have spotted some information worthy of posting Im guilty of putting it off for a bit, based on the relatively low level of genuine threat and importance.

Unfortunately today this has changed and quite substantially so.

I still just dont have the time available right now to thoroughily plow through all my sources but for the present that may not be entirely relevant against this emerging news.

As we all know the Saudi Authorities have been a very long way from being at all helpful in providing even the most basic of information of the developing MERS-cov situation there.

Really basic details like age, gender, etc of patients who have been diagnosed with this really deadly coronavirus.

The World Health Organization has been regularly criticized by researchers and numerous groups and individuals as well, for their failure to enforce international agreements that would provide the information mentioned above as well as far more concise information that would have permitted researchers and other health experts to better understand this coronavirus and more than likely contribute considerably to limiting the danger that it has been threatening to present to humanity at large.

These next couple of posts will give us all some now up to date insight into just how serious this problem has advanced to.

I will post more information soon, but I now have very little doubt that we should now all be sourcing certain basic protective equipment for our individual and families protection, certainly now before this situation develops much further and the massive rush will instantly place these essential items into the relm of completely unavailable for months, months that will be far too late to be of real help and exposing those without those pretections to grave risks for their lives.

To not source these relatively innexpensice and essential basics now could be your worst decision ever, and though I may be sounding somewhat alarmist, I far prefer to be doing that, possibly saving lives than lamenting the fact that we just didnt heed the warning signs early enough.

I have my supply now safely on hand.

I was able to obtain it all, face masks, anticeptic hand gells, antiseptic surface wipes and a few other essentials that I am certain will all be fully utilized if or perhaps now, when this coronavirus does go pandemic.

For those interrested I obtained my supplies from the link below.

Simple transaction over the internet, fast and efficient service, I can and certainly do recommend this supplier.

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So, moving back to these serious posts.

They show that after enough people died from this disease the information sadly has eventually become available via these channels and now some real facts and trends have emerged.

And they are of serious concern.


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More MERS-CoV Cases and Deaths In Eastern KSA
Recombinomics Commentary 14:00
May 29, 2013

Of the 49 known infections with the MERS-CoV virus, 27 have resulted in death, the organization said.

The latest deaths were reported in Saudi Arabia.

The Saudi health ministry said Wednesday that three people died from their infections in the country's eastern region.

The above comments indicate that three more MERS-CoV cases have died, raising the total to 21 in Saudi Arabia, Since only 9 of the Saudi Arabia cases have been discharged, the case fatality rate (CFR) in Saudi Arabia based on the 30 outcomes is 70%. This high CFR strongly suggests that the current testing / reporting in Saudi Arabia is describing a sub-set of the cases. Three days ago the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia Ministry of Health (KSA-MoH) had noted a halt in the increase in confirmed cases in the Eastern Province. However, 5 new cases were announced yesterday, and the above comments indicated three more deaths from the region have been confirmed (see map).


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In this post we again have a clear demonstration of the unimaginable and to be honest, totally irresponsible treatment that the Saudi Authorities continue to expose the whole world to by simply not respecting and observing their agreed international responsibilities with regard to this continuing and now obviously advancing and developing MERS-cov menace.

Should this continue in the obvious direction that it currently is, then those Saudi Authorities are going to be correctly blamed for seriously contributing to the death of many thousands possibly tens of thousands of innocent people from all around the world.

Should this eventuate I believe that there must be just cause for prosecution in the international courts for crimes against humanity.

There are simply no excuses for this behavoir, it is an abomination and reckless to a level that defies description.

Another Hospital MERS-CoV Cluster In Eastern KSA
Recombinomics Commentary 12:45
May 30, 2013

The first patient is a 56-year-old man with underlying medical conditions, who became ill on 12 May 2013 and died on 20 May 2013. The second patient is an 85-year-old woman with underling medical conditions who became ill on 17 May and is currently in critical condition. The third patient is a 76-year-old woman with underlying medical conditions who became ill on 24 May 2013 and was discharged from the hospital on 27 May 2013. The fourth patient is a 77-year-old man with underlying medical conditions who became ill on 19 May and died on 26 May 2013. The fifth patient is a 73-year-old man with underlying medical conditions who became ill on 18 May and died on 26 May 2013.

The above comments are from the May 29 WHO MERS-CoV update, which includes disease onset dates as well as age and gender data (see map). The cases are more recent and represent another coronavirus hospital outbreak in the eastern province. Media reports cite a new (but unnamed hospital) at a new (but unnamed location) location in the eastern region.


Break...

The striking parallels between MERS-CoV and SARS-CoV are clear and the high case fatality rate indicates only a small sub-set of cases are being detected / reported.

The failure to detect or report the milder cases remains hazardous to the world’s health.



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Here we report that yet again the Saudi Authorities have again allowed transportation by commercial airline another positive MERS-cov case, this time to Morocco but in just the same way as the recent case that flew to Tunisia after travel again linked to Umrah travel to the Middle East.

If something very positive and seriously proactive efforts are not made to attempt to have Muslim pilgrims defer their Hajj travels later this year then humanity will suffer in ways that have never before been witnessed, even during times of outright war.

Those millions of pilgrims will be the innocent spreaders of this horrific plague to the four corners of the earth and medical resources will become completely overwhelmed within a matter of just a few days.

There will be no recovery for humanity and it will put the world back at least a century if not far more.

Morocco MERS-CoV Case ex-Middle East
Recombinomics Commentary 15:00
May 30, 2013

And it comes to a Moroccan citizen who works in the Gulf state was entered Ibn Sina University Hospital in Rabat.

Moroccan network for the defense of health" for the first injury in Morocco Corona virus, and it comes Emirati citizen submitted to Morocco in the tour, entered the Sheikh Zayed Hospital in Rabat on Wednesday 29 May.

The above translations describe a MERS-CoV case in Rabat, Morocco (see map). Although one report indicates the case is an Emirati resident on tour in Morocco, while the other claims the case is a Moroccan who works in the Gulf, both reports strongly suggest the coronavirus was contracted in the Middle East and then transported to Morocco via commercial airline.

The Morocco case follows a Tunisian cluster linked to Umrah travel in the Middle East (Qatar and Saudi Arabia), and a French cluster linked to a tour that included Dubai, UAE. These exports to Africa and Europe follow two large MERS-CoV hospital outbreaks in eastern Saudi Arabia.


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The high case fatality rate in Saudi Arabia, as well as the failure of Qatar, UAE, Bahrain, and Kuwait to report any MERS-CoV cases raises serious transparency issues and reporting failures.

The failures are not being adequately addressed by WHO, which relies on negative data from insensitive PCR tests to claim that MERS-CoV is not transmitting in communities in a sustained manner. This position is strongly refuted by the sequence data from MERS-CoV cases which originated in Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Qatar, and UAE in patients diagnosed in The Netherlands, England, Germany, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and France.

WHO’s failure to enforce IHR regulations continues to be hazardous to the world’s health.



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For tonight, this last post is absolute proof positive that these MERS-cov cases are H2H transmitted and over the total period that this novel coronavirus has been active.

Though technical in the detail the message itself is clear enough.

This is where I have based my horrifying commentary on for the last few posts.

French MERS-CoV Sequences Identical To England2
Recombinomics Commentary 19:30
May 30, 2013

Confirmatory sequence analysis of the RdRp and N gene segments was done directly on RNA extracted from the bronchoalveolar lavage specimen from patient 1 and sputum specimen from patient 2. The sequences from both patients were identical. The RdRp sequences showed the C&#8594;T polymorphism at position 15196, which distinguishes all available sequences from that of the EMC/2012 isolate.5 For the N gene, sequences were identical to that of the EMC isolate and did not show the short deletion (nucleotides 29736–29741) nor any of the polymorphisms recorded at positions 29714 (A&#8594;T) and 29723 (G&#8594;T) in the England/Qatar/2012 sequence, nor that found at position 29811 (C&#8594;T) in the Jordan-N3/2012 sequence (appendix).5,15,17 These results definitively establish that both patients were infected with MERS-CoV.

The above comments from the Lancet paper on nosocomial MERS-CoV transmission in France describe the sequences from the two cases in France.


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Thus, all human sequences are closely related to each other, and easily distinguished from all bat sequences, which are decades or centuries away from the human sequences.

Break...

The two sets of sequences from the French cases increases the number of public human sequences to eight and all are virtually identical to the consensus (identities of 99.6% or higher) strongly supporting human transmission, which appears to be evolving toward greater efficiency as seen by the large hospital clusters in eastern Saudi Arabia as well as the export of MERS-CoV via infected patients traveling via commercial airline from the Middle East to England, France, Tunisia, or Morocco.

These hospital clusters and exports, coupled with the high case fatality rate, signal sustained community transmission in the Middle East.


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Folks, I have to offer my very heart felt concerns to everyone for having to bring this news forward, as I have tonight.

It sickens me and I wont sleep well tonight.

I can only hope that someone in Authority in Saudi Arabia has also read these posts tonight and that they will share my nightmares.

Perhaps then we might see an about face from the Saudis and the road to destruction they are consigning us all on.

Please source your protective supplies now while you have time.

I will be back to continue with what I am committed to do.

In the mean time.

God help us all.

arkay
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For tonight, this last post is absolute proof positive that these MERS-cov cases are H2H transmitted and over the total period that this novel coronavirus has been active.

Though technical in the detail the message itself is clear enough.

This is where I have based my horrifying commentary on for the last few posts.

French MERS-CoV Sequences Identical To England2
Recombinomics Commentary 19:30
May 30, 2013

Confirmatory sequence analysis of the RdRp and N gene segments was done directly on RNA extracted from the bronchoalveolar lavage specimen from patient 1 and sputum specimen from patient 2. The sequences from both patients were identical. The RdRp sequences showed the C&#8594;T polymorphism at position 15196, which distinguishes all available sequences from that of the EMC/2012 isolate.5 For the N gene, sequences were identical to that of the EMC isolate and did not show the short deletion (nucleotides 29736–29741) nor any of the polymorphisms recorded at positions 29714 (A&#8594;T) and 29723 (G&#8594;T) in the England/Qatar/2012 sequence, nor that found at position 29811 (C&#8594;T) in the Jordan-N3/2012 sequence (appendix).5,15,17 These results definitively establish that both patients were infected with MERS-CoV.

The above comments from the Lancet paper on nosocomial MERS-CoV transmission in France describe the sequences from the two cases in France.


Break...

Thus, all human sequences are closely related to each other, and easily distinguished from all bat sequences, which are decades or centuries away from the human sequences.

Break...

The two sets of sequences from the French cases increases the number of public human sequences to eight and all are virtually identical to the consensus (identities of 99.6% or higher) strongly supporting human transmission, which appears to be evolving toward greater efficiency as seen by the large hospital clusters in eastern Saudi Arabia as well as the export of MERS-CoV via infected patients traveling via commercial airline from the Middle East to England, France, Tunisia, or Morocco.

These hospital clusters and exports, coupled with the high case fatality rate, signal sustained community transmission in the Middle East.


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This is the scariest thing I've seen for a long long moment...
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God is very powerful.....and can keep the pestilence from you.



"Surely He shall deliver you from the snare of the fowler and from the perilous pestilence.

He shall cover you with His feathers. and under His wings you shall take refuge; His truth shall be your shield and buckler.

You shall not be afraid of the terror by night, nor of the arrow that flies by day,

Nor of the pestilence that walks in darkness, nor of the destruction that lays waste at noonday."


Psalm 91: 3-6


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The random flu deaths in Alabama (mobile) there is a fishing town near mobile that has 15% of its population is Vietnamese...which their main trade is fishing... Local fishermen trade all the time...houston!!
And bones on mars....
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The random flu deaths in Alabama (mobile) there is a fishing town near mobile that has 15% of its population is Vietnamese...which their main trade is fishing... Local fishermen trade all the time...houston!!
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Sounds like Synthia.
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I have been watching this since the start and it is very worrying how these countries are dealing with it. If it was Ebola it would be very different?
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The random flu deaths in Alabama (mobile) there is a fishing town near mobile that has 15% of its population is Vietnamese...which their main trade is fishing... Local fishermen trade all the time...houston!!
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Sounds like Synthia.
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And bones on mars....
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Bayou La Batre has one of highest percentage of Vietnamese for a small town (14-15%) bc of fishing industry...
And bones on mars....
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You should go over and do an in-depth report on your bird-flu-up-ur-ass stories and make sure you get IN there; and bring us all videos! You can DO this op. Be a hero! Spread that love for doom into something useful. rockonyoda
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God is very powerful.....and can keep the pestilence from you.



"Surely He shall deliver you from the snare of the fowler and from the perilous pestilence.

He shall cover you with His feathers. and under His wings you shall take refuge; His truth shall be your shield and buckler.

You shall not be afraid of the terror by night, nor of the arrow that flies by day,

Nor of the pestilence that walks in darkness, nor of the destruction that lays waste at noonday."


Psalm 91: 3-6


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Yeah, that really helped all those Christians with the black plague.
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CIA Operated Aerial Spraying Plane Carrying "Mutated" Virus Shot Down in China

Reports circulating in the Kremlin today are stating that a US government contracted airplane piloted by American CIA agents and carrying a cargo of a "mutated"swine flu virus intended for aerial spraying was shot down at China's Shanghai Pudong airport by a saboteur team of what are believed to be Israeli Mossad soldiers seeking to prevent an American attack upon one of their Central Asian bases located in the Central Asian Nation of Kyrgyzstan.

According to Chinese media reports on this incident the stricken Zimbabwean MD-ll plane, owned by the CIA linked Avient Aviation company operated by a former British military officer named Andrew Smith and registered in the UK, killed 3 American CIA agents and injured 4 other personal who are reported to be from United States, Indonesia, Belgium and Zimbabwe.

Most interesting to note in these reports on the victims of this plane shootdown is that the Indonesian man currently being treated for his injuries has ‘confessed’ to Chinese secret police forces that he is a technician employed by the United States Navy at their mysterious Naval Medical Research Unit No. 2 (NAMRU-2) located in Indonesia that Indonesian Defense Minister Juwono Sudarsono had previously called for the closing of “because its operations were too secretive and were incompatible with Indonesia’s security interests.

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God is very powerful.....and can keep the pestilence from you.



"Surely He shall deliver you from the snare of the fowler and from the perilous pestilence.

He shall cover you with His feathers. and under His wings you shall take refuge; His truth shall be your shield and buckler.

You shall not be afraid of the terror by night, nor of the arrow that flies by day,

Nor of the pestilence that walks in darkness, nor of the destruction that lays waste at noonday."


Psalm 91: 3-6


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A few people said that when the black plague ravaged Europe.
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Folks, I have to offer my very heart felt concerns to everyone for having to bring this news forward, as I have tonight.

It sickens me and I wont sleep well tonight.

I can only hope that someone in Authority in Saudi Arabia has also read these posts tonight and that they will share my nightmares.

Perhaps then we might see an about face from the Saudis and the road to destruction they are consigning us all on.

Please source your protective supplies now while you have time.

I will be back to continue with what I am committed to do.

In the mean time.

God help us all.

arkay
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Hi Arkay,

You are spot on the money mate. The potential for MERS to go full pandemic are immense. What scares me the most is in the next month or so the annual Hajj is going to concentrate millions of people from all over the world together in one place.

This is the true melting pot that nightmares are made of.
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May Allah guide us all to what is best , it is at time,s when what may seem like an impossible order needs to be given , an order that may prove be be unpopular that the true meaning of leadership may be tested to its limit , .
The corona virus is a very real threat globally , the hajj season is about to begin , .....we have a duty to to to Allah and there is a duty to the world
Education , work and family are all parts of iman , by saving a life you are rewarded by Allah what is more important , position in this world or the here after ???
Cancel Hajj ... it is the right thing to do , for your country and for the world .
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Italy reported its first case of the SARS-like coronavirus on Friday, a 45-year-old man who had been travelling in Jordan, the health ministry said.
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going back to dates fruit bats watering holes and goats that will eats just about anything , contaminated water .....still my best guess
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To date, WHO has been notified of 51 laboratory-confirmed Middle East Respiratory Syndrome cases, incl. 30 deaths #MERS #nCoV


and the mortality continues to rise..
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have there been people returning from ummra to Jordan ??
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Turki bin Salman Al Saud
Bissmi Allah ar Rahman R Raheem

May Allah guide us all to what is best , it is at time,s when what may seem like an impossible order needs to be given , an order that may prove be be unpopular that the true meaning of leadership may be tested to its limit , .
The corona virus is a very real threat globally , the hajj season is about to begin , .....we have a duty to to to Allah and there is a duty to the world
Education , work and family are all parts of iman , by saving a life you are rewarded by Allah what is more important , position in this world or the here after ???
Cancel Hajj ... it is the right thing to do , for your country and for the world .
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I'm very glad to see this. Hopefully, if more call for the cancellation of Hajj, it will have an impact. Really helps drive home the seriousness of the situation.
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Bissmi Allah ar Rahman R Raheem

May Allah guide us all to what is best , it is at time,s when what may seem like an impossible order needs to be given , an order that may prove be be unpopular that the true meaning of leadership may be tested to its limit , .
The corona virus is a very real threat globally , the hajj season is about to begin , .....we have a duty to to to Allah and there is a duty to the world
Education , work and family are all parts of iman , by saving a life you are rewarded by Allah what is more important , position in this world or the here after ???
Cancel Hajj ... it is the right thing to do , for your country and for the world .
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I'm very glad to see this. Hopefully, if more call for the cancellation of Hajj, it will have an impact. Really helps drive home the seriousness of the situation.
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Sadly, it will never be canceled.
And 2 weeks later...
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Bissmi Allah ar Rahman R Raheem

May Allah guide us all to what is best , it is at time,s when what may seem like an impossible order needs to be given , an order that may prove be be unpopular that the true meaning of leadership may be tested to its limit , .
The corona virus is a very real threat globally , the hajj season is about to begin , .....we have a duty to to to Allah and there is a duty to the world
Education , work and family are all parts of iman , by saving a life you are rewarded by Allah what is more important , position in this world or the here after ???
Cancel Hajj ... it is the right thing to do , for your country and for the world .
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I'm very glad to see this. Hopefully, if more call for the cancellation of Hajj, it will have an impact. Really helps drive home the seriousness of the situation.
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Sadly, it will never be canceled.
And 2 weeks later...
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more people need to call for it to be put on hold until this is under control muslim or not this is a global concern europe could also start taking the lead cancelling large gathering unpopular but necessary, and its better to be remebered in history as the one who dared rather than the one who was scared ......a being a true leader means being able to give those orders even if it means standing alone .

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