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Hi MzTreeChick.

great to see you still lurking with us all, hope you are feeling better.

We miss your excellent abilities to sniff out the buried stories, but as you can see, we plug on and try to keep on doing what we do.

Hang in there with us wont you.

Heres some cheer for you in our grubby winter, it wont last forever!

cheers

arkay



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"The Hajj will not be canceled this season due to coronavirus"

Coronavirus, the virus that has so far 32 dead in Saudi Arabia, does not seem to deter thousands of Algerians who want to go to the Holy Places to perform the fifth pillar of Islam.
Neither the Algerian authorities, or the National Hajj, or people who want to perform the rites of Hajj or Umrah not intend to cancel this season they visit the holy places of Islam. Saudi Arabia recorded his 32nd death Monday. In addition, three new cases of coronavirus Seas were recorded in the kingdom, with 49 confirmed cases.

Contacted by The Time Algeria, the Director General of the Office of the Hajj and Umrah, Cheikh Barbara, said the Hajj will not be canceled this season: "Although the Saudi authorities have lowered the quota of Algeria and other countries, but we do not cancel the Hajj and Umrah. "

According to him, the proposal by Saudi Arabia to argue lower quota thesis is valid. "The construction of the Grand Mosque are the only reason that prompted the Saudis to reduce the quota," he argued. He further denied that the "syndrome" of coronavirus is the cause of several deaths in this country is the cause. "It is not because of the coronavirus," he said.

Construction of the Great Mosque began years, and other extension work has been done to the site, but this is the first time in history that the number of Hajj pilgrims is reduced. This decision will certainly have an impact on the management authorities of other countries, who have seen their quota reduced. Algeria, the first country to have prepared this pilgrimage season, and have moved on site, will not be spared by this limited quota. Mr. Barbara was adamant about it.

HI well come back hope your feeling better always good to see you around

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people returning from umbra saudi are showing symptoms of corona virus

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Well something very unusual and intrigueing appears to be manifesting itself at present here on our treasured thread.

From all the postings that have been posted in order, (above) I find it fascinating that we can have two posters from the United kingdom, both posting one after the other but the perplexing thing I find really difficult to understand is the fact that the first several posts have a time stamp that is way after the later posters time stamps but they both are presented as being from the UK.

Have a look at the postings and you will see for yourself what I am observing.

Forgive me for making any mistakes here but I was under the understanding that the UK operated under just one time zone, so how can this have occurred?

At this point in time I am going to call foul and warn readers that we might be being subjected to some GLP effect and that maybe some of the information that is being posted here is NOT reliably valid input.

Please ensure that you follow links that are provided from UK posters, and that they are credible.

I would hate to think that we are being played here, but I do have reason to at least consider that possibility as plausable.

Especially in light of the experiences that I was recently subjected to when visiting the UK believing that and being given positive encouragement that I would be meeting one of our prominent posters here, but only to learn that I was being conned to a serious extent, leaving me with serious doubts as to the credibility of at least one notable presence on this thread.

At this point intime I believe that the "original" poster, previously known as Zennith, was more or less genuine and that she (he ?) continues to post here, I can tell this because of the poor manipulation of the English language and relatively alien manipulation of our native tongue.


It seems very likely that this person is actually from the Middle East/ Arabian territories as the knowledge that has be proffered appeard to be quite intimate with cultural practices from that region.

However, I also believe and have witnessed it on this thread that this entity works in concert with others, and those others are from different cultures and now apparently different places, there are very deep workings happening here I believe, but I will remain open minded and if comments are presented that are credible then I would love to hear of them as is my typical stance on fairness.

So, all I can say is for us all to be vigilant to the vagaries of what might appear on this valuable thread and if you feel that you sense some slight shift that doesent quite fit, then please post your thoughts.

It has always been the PURE intent and direction of this thread to inform with known and scientifically backed facts wherever possibloe and at the very least credible links to authoritive sources that should be considered to be credible and reliable.

These are the very reasons why the MSM have pelagerized our work here for several months now and also the same reason why I now refuse to bring the latest news here when not essential.

I really dont like being predated on and when the time does come for rapid dissemination of critical news will be when I post with that warning.

In the mean time the MSM can earn their pay by doing some actual work, I dont get paid for the many hours I dedicate to this work on behalf of decent humans, but by hell I hate having my work stolen for someone elses laziness and financial gain.

Big rave, appolagies.

arkay

Be cautious would be my sincere suggestion.

cheers

arkay

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Arkay the intriguing event that appears to be manifesting itself on this thread. is no more than switching between the h7n9 thread and your thread certainly nothing sinister .
I feel offended that you should believe i have harmed this valuable thread in any way .
Wish you peace Arkay hope you continue to keep up the good work .

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Hi UK anon.

Reading what I posted regarding the time stamps from your first three postings under the Anonymous Coward 41927464, and then comparing the next two posting under the Anonymous Coward 42051004 reveals that the last two posts were stamped with a time before the first three posts but the posts themselves appear as later posts.

This is what I found to be irregular.

Now there could be a number of reasons for that to happen, such as two seperated computers with incorrect times being set on their individual clocks, but that would suggest the use of more than one computer, if in fact that is how GLP picks up and displays those time stamps.

Using two computers would be a very unusual thing for any ordinary person to be doing.

The next possibility would involve the "second" UK anon, actually posing as being from the UK but actually being in a different time zone, again problematic.

So you can see why I spotted the irregularity and I am regrettably yet to be able to see any logic in your reply.

Any offence for the perception that I might have given the impression that you personally might have been damaging the integrity of this thread is indeed a very unfortunate perception that I regret that you have felt and I apolagise.


The thread I do know that you personally have highly valued and if in your position now, I would also have the feeling you express, so I unreservedly apolagise for that missunderstanding.

Having said that though, the irregularities do remain as do a litany of other very perplexing inconsistencies.

Having said that as you know your works on this thread specificially have been valued and I am yet to find just caust to doubt your personal input, but there is considerable space for doubt outside those specific confines and I will contimue to welcome YOUR input.

Apart from that there are numerous other matters that also deserve much attention and clarification between us but this is not the forum for that.

I am patiently waiting for that exchange as Im certain that you can anticipate and must also know that I deserve to be confided in.

cheers

arkay

the two computers are a lap top and home computer not abnormal at all
as for the other incident you mentioned I was not aware of any agreement re your london visit

Thanks Arkay. I'm watching this thread consistently. 11,000 American Muslims are supposedly attending the Hajj this go round. 11,000! If even 10%, 1,100 contract this it will spread around the country. NY, for example, could be devastated before Christmas. My G_d!

If I might ask, is this your professional field of research? Are you a doctor? CDC? WHO?

What amazing information you've managed to bring to this forum.

Know that I am practicing public cleanliness now in prep. for the troubles ahead after their return and distribution of the virus to the rest of us worldwide.

Inshallah; no impunity be upon the faithful pilgrims what-so-ever from my tongue.

I understand this is a very important time for their religious beliefs...but MAN do I wish they'd cancel it this year until this virus has winnowed its way into the history books. I feel like a highly contagious version of next generation Spanish Flu is about to make its world presence known and wipe out a third of the population.

Thank you T-Cain for jumping in and letting us hear that our works are being monitored, heeded and appreciated.

I hope that I dont dissalusion you but my past professional background goes as far as being a nurse with some considerable work in pathology which I found a personal affinity for.

Most of what I have done here anybody could do.

Yes, I have learnt immesurably over the last year or so since commencing this thread, but with an open mind and a passion for new learning and information anyone else could have easily duplicated what has been fielded here.

Perhaps having the time to dedicate to the tune of maybe an average of three hous a day to do research and follow links has helped but I stress that anyone could be more than capable of doing at least what has been delivered here probably much much more.

And I have innumerable other contributors that have added considerably to this thread.

All I have done really is tried to keep the focus appropriate and encourage everyone else to contribute and to engage in a respectful manner.

As far as your comments go re the emerging MERS-cov outbreak and its approaching potential for world wide pandemic there is some new news available that well, its corny but it is both good and bad.

I'll post that info after the MSM had had the time to do their fair share of work , its not going to make much difference in the bigger picture at this stage.

And apart from that I am still absorbing some other recent postings and deciding the appropriate response, before I offer a very carefully considered response.

In the mean time, you are doing all that you can for the present, knowledge is a very powerful tool and what you have described is the fact that we are getting our message through and really that is what our real function is.

Would really love to have more input and feedback about your "local" experiences and who and what people in your neck of the woods talk of and think if that is something that you have experience in, as is also the case for all other readers.

Cheers

arkay

Time to respond.

There are two distinct parts to this situation.

So the first.

It is genuinely reassuring to hear that someone would go to all the trouble of using two computers at once to assist with their input here.

I too own several computers and it has never occurred to me that more than one has any benefit.

Indeed when Im on GLP I simply run multiple browsers on the same computer and achieve all the efficiency that I feel that I need.

Having said that though, I can think of a number or reasons that might be useful in employing the use of seperate computers, so I guess that Im satisfactiorily assured of the matter in that regard.

As to the other matter of my travels.

The commentary offered is so defensive that I will not even attempt to engage on it.

As I have previously asserted, this is NOT the place for that discussion and there are other far more appropriate and PRIVATE opportunities to engage on this topic, should that be of concern, and I am happy to PRIVATELY engage it that way.

Personally I dont care, the damage IS done, but as far as this thread and its integrity goes.

It stands above all else and any "personal" matters can be dealt with in far more appropriate ways.

This matter is now shut.

No further discussion will be engaged in via this thread.

arkay.

Do you ever get the feeling of Deja-vu?

Our good old friend H3N2v of US County Fair notoriety from last year is back and making itself felt again.

At this point in time Ive not heard if this strain is included in this years vaccination formula.

H3N2v Confirmed In 4 Attendees of Indiana Grant County Fair
Recombinomics Commentary 02:30
June 27, 2013


State health officials are encouraging Hoosiers to take steps to protect themselves at county and 4H fairs around the state this summer following detection of four cases of variant influenza A (H3N2v). All individuals visited the Grant County Agricultural Fair, June 16-22, prior to illness, and at least two had contact with swine

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International influenza reports have been released by the WHO.

Influenza virus activity in the world
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[Source: Laboratory confirmed data from the Global Influenza Surveillance and Response System (GISRS).]

Based on FluNet reporting (as of 18 Jun 2013, 09:10 UTC), during weeks 22 to 23 (26 May to 8 Jun 2013), National Influenza Centres (NICs) and other national influenza laboratories from 66 countries, areas or territories reported data. The WHO GISRS laboratories tested more than 14 646 specimens. 906 were positive for influenza viruses, of which 615 (67.9 percent) were typed as influenza A and 291 (32.1 percent) as influenza B. Of the sub-typed influenza A viruses, 354 (74.4 percent) were influenza A(H1N1)pdm09 and 122 (25.6 percent) were influenza A(H3N2). Of the characterized B viruses, 10 (71.4 percent) belong to the B-Yamagata lineage and 4 (28.6 percent) to the B-Victoria lineage.

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During weeks 22 and 23 [26 May to 8 Jun 2013], influenza activity remained low globally. Influenza A(H1N1)pdm09 viruses continued to be the predominant circulating subtype, followed by influenza B and A(H3N2) viruses.

In Asia and Oceania, influenza A(H3N2) and influenza B viruses co-circulated throughout the region at low levels in general, although Viet Nam reported increased A(H1N1)pdm09 virus activity.

In Africa, A(H1N1)pdm09 activity remained high in Madagascar and South Africa. Sporadic influenza detections were reported from elsewhere in the region.

In Central and South America, A(H1N1)pdm09 viruses continued to circulate although at low levels.

In Europe and North America sporadic detections of influenza B viruses continued to be reported

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25 Jun 2013 Influenza (37): WHO global update

Some commentary here on the state of H5N1 avian influenza in Egypt, here.

H5N1 prevalence may surpass 10 percent in Egyptian backyard, market poultry
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An Egyptian surveillance study found that while H5N1 avian flu viruses were uncommon on commercial poultry farms, more than 10 percent of backyard and live-market birds harbored the virus, according to a report in the Journal of Virology [see comment]. Throughout 2009 Egyptian and German scientists took tracheal and cloacal swabs from 22 024 farm poultry, of which 23 birds (0.1 percent) were positive by polymerase chain reaction for the H5N1 virus. In comparison, 151 (10.5 percent) of 1435 birds in backyard flocks and 108 (11.4 percent) of 944 birds in live-bird markets were infected. Incidence was highest in spring and summer, particularly in backyard birds. The team also sampled 1297 wild birds of 28 different species in 2009 and 2010 and detected no H5N1. They conclude that backyard flocks may play a key role in maintaining H5N1 in Egyptian poultry, especially in live-bird markets.

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25 Jun 2013 Avian influenza (75): Egypt, H5N1, poultry, update

The H7N9 influenza virus has claimed another life in China.

A man died from the H7N9 strain of bird flu in east China's Shanghai Municipality on Wednesday [26 Jun 2013], local health authorities said. The 56-year-old Shanghai native died early Wednesday morning [26 Jun 2013], the Shanghai Municipal Health and Family Planning Commission said. It was confirmed that he had been infected with the H7N9 virus on Thu 11 Apr 2013.

Shanghai has so far reported 33 human infections. While 15 of these patients have made full recoveries and been discharged from hospitals, 16 died and the remaining 2 are still being treated, the commission said.

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26 Jun 2013 Avian influenza, human (89): China (SH) H7N9, update

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More fatal cases of MERS-cov are being reported for the Middle East.

Interrestingly we now appear to be gaining, rather belatedly, a better understanding of this coronavirus, with more asymptomatic cases being detected now than presiously.

Middle East respiratory syndrome coronavirus (MERS-CoV) - update 26 Jun 2013
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The Ministry of Health (MOH) in Saudi Arabia has announced 7 additional laboratory-confirmed cases and a death in a previously confirmed case of Middle East respiratory syndrome coronavirus (MERS-CoV).

A total of 4 cases have been detected among contacts of confirmed cases in Riyadh and the Eastern Region. They range in age from 7 to 15 years, and all were asymptomatic. Also, 2 further asymptomatic cases have been recorded among female healthcare workers in the Eastern Region and Al-Ahsa. A 7th case has been detected in a 50-year-old female in the Eastern Region. She is currently hospitalized with pulmonary disease and her condition is considered stable.

In addition, the MoH has announced the death of a previously reported confirmed case from the Eastern Region (the 32-year-old male 1st reported on [23 Jun 2013]).

Globally, from September 2012 to date, WHO has been informed of a total of 77 laboratory-confirmed cases of infection with MERS-CoV, including 40 deaths.

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26 Jun 2013 MERS-CoV - Eastern Mediterranean (35): Saudi Arabia, WHO

I'm missing this thread. Can you please start giving updates again?

I live in Vietnam (Saigon)..... So where is the Birdflu??

On 12/7, Cambodian Health Ministry and the World Health Organization (WHO) in Cambodia confirmed a 3-year-old boy in Prey Veng province, locality bordering Vietnam, 14th victim since the beginning of the year, H5N1 avian influenza virus infection in Cambodia.

Latest H5N1 victim was hospitalized in Phnom Penh on 10/7, with symptoms of fever, cough, shortness of breath. The boy is being treated with Tamiflu and patients are positive developments. ...

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New cases of H7N9 have not been detected in China since May this year, until now.

Here we have the detection of a new and serions case of H7N9 after all this time, which could be signalling a new outbreak.

It is interesting to note that ealsier commentary from the medical community did signal a level of expectation for this bug to re-emerge.

Lets hope that this is an isolated case, and not the beginning of a fresh outbreak which could still lead to a world wide pandemic as is also feared by those medical experts.

A 61-year-old female has been confirmed as a case of H7N9 avian influenza virus infection in Beijing by Beijing CDC on Sat 20 Jul 2013. She is a resident of Langfang Shi, a city between Beijing and Tianjing [in Hebei Province]. She developed fever on 10 Jul 2013 and was diagnosed as a case of severe pneumonia on 13 Jul 2013. She was transferred to Beijing Chaoyang Hospital on 18 Jul 2013. The patient is in serious condition and being treated.

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20 Jul 2013 Avian influenza, human (100): China (BJ) H7N9, new case, RFI

An update on the MERS-coronavirus sitution follows here.

New cases continue to present and are also now being detected in asympomatic people.

While it is good to see this better surveilance and to understand that the CFR (case fatality rate) is lower than first thought to be, it still doesnt change the fact that this coronavirus causes long term serious and life threatening illness in a significant number of people.

Worse still are the facts that the reservour and vectors for this coronavirus continue to remain veiled from our understanding, all the while it continues to distribute itself over ever wider areas, now established in Abu Dhabi, and inspite of the WHO's rediculous attitude of not acknowledging and attempting to manage this menace, it continues to establish a very dangerous foothold from what is certain that it will rapidly become a world wide pandemic with the onset of the Haag now very fast approaching and with pilgrims certain to have locked in their travel plans to attend this very significant religous festival, by now.

This is a tragedy of biblical proportions in the making.

I wonder how the WHO will respond once the inevidible pandemic actually emerges and is responsible for unimaginable pain, suffering and death that could have been avoided.

Will the world at learge continue to tollerate the continuance of the WHO after an event like the approaching disaster and for which they have direct responsibility for the inevidible outcome of possibly tens of thousand of deaths.

I certainly hope that the individuals who represent the WHO and are making these decisions at this time will be personally held to account for their culpable actions.


Middle East respiratory syndrome coronavirus (MERS-CoV) - update 18 Jul 2013
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WHO has been informed of 6 additional laboratory-confirmed cases of infection with Middle East respiratory syndrome coronavirus (MERS-CoV). Of these, 2 cases have been reported from Saudi Arabia and 4 from the United Arab Emirates (UAE).

Both the cases in Saudi Arabia have mild symptoms and are not hospitalized. They are from Asir region. The 1st case is a 26-year-old man who is a close contact with a previously laboratory-confirmed case, and the 2nd case is a 42-year-old woman who is a health care worker.

In the UAE, the 4 cases are health care workers from 2 hospitals in Abu Dhabi who took care of an earlier laboratory-confirmed patient. Of these, 2 cases, a 28-year-old man and 30-year-old woman, did not develop symptoms of illness. The other 2 cases, both women of 30 and 40 years old, had mild upper respiratory symptoms and are in stable condition.

Globally, from September 2012 to date [18 Jul 2013], WHO has been informed of a total of 88 laboratory-confirmed cases of infection with MERS-CoV, including 45 deaths.

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19 Jul 2013 MERS-CoV - Eastern Mediterranean (46): Saudi Arabia, UAE, WHO

Back in the US of A, the annual round of county fairs are back in swing.

And, naturally the H3N2v influenza virus has emerged again as has been totally predictable.

This next article outlines the current situation, and of course there are a few pertinent observations that arise for this article.

Firstly, the obvious question.

Are exibitors required to provide up to date vetenary certificates of the health of the animals they intend displaying at these county fairs, surely this would be a minimum requirement and expectation.

The next is to note that it would appear that this article seems to be a little up-beat that there have been no hospital admissions from the virus so far this year, and this is indeed good news.

But, what all this missplaced optimism neglectes to observe even though the article itself carries the information, is the fact that this virus carries the H1N1 Pdm9 "M" gene which it has aquired by reassortment with the H1N1 influenza virus and as a result is now significantly more contagous than ever.

How this virus aquired this "M" gene remains unexplained and continues to raise serious questions, but aside from its origins, this new H3N2v virus is now far more likely to spread very readily throughout the human population and sooner or later it will find the opportunity to again reassort its genetic make up with ultimately a highly deadly form of influenza, perhaps H5N1 avian influenza, and remove its final impediment to becoming an historical pandemic capable of destroying around 60 percent of the human population of the world in its first wave as it spreads across the globe.

It is inevidible that sooner or later this will happen, nature alone will guarantee that, but with a guiding hand along the way that inevitible pandemic will commence years sooner if indeed this is what has beenis motion as I strongly suspect of recent times.

Certainly there are groups among us who would see such a depopulating pandemic as desirable, and there have been very clear demonstrations of that type of goings on having already happened.

Variant Influenza Virus (H3N2v) Infections
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Summary
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This Health Alert Network Health Advisory provides an update on H3N2 variant virus (or "H3N2v") activity and summarizes CDC's updated H3N2v case definitions and recommendations for H3N2v surveillance for the summer and fall of 2013. It supersedes the last H3N2v-related HAN Health Advisory, HAN 325, which was issued 3 Aug 2012.

Background
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The 1st cases of influenza A (H3N2) variant1 (H3N2v) virus infection this year were reported in June 2013. These cases were associated with exposure to swine at an agricultural fair prior to illness onset. H3N2v viruses with the matrix (M) gene from the 2009 H1N1 pandemic virus were 1st detected in people in 2011 and were responsible for a multi-state outbreak [in the US] in the summer of 2012 that resulted in 306 cases, including 16 hospitalizations and one fatality. Genetic sequencing by CDC has confirmed that H3N2v viruses isolated in June 2013 are nearly identical to those detected during summer 2012. Most cases of H3N2v identified during 2012 were associated with exposure to pigs at agricultural fairs. Agricultural fairs take place across the United States every year, primarily during the summer months and into early fall. Many fairs have swine barns, where pigs from different places come in close contact with each other and with people. These venues may allow spread of influenza viruses both among pigs and between pigs and people. Data indicate that infected pigs may spread influenza viruses even if they are not symptomatic (e.g., coughing and/or sneezing). Although instances of limited person-to-person spread of this virus have been identified in the past, sustained or community-wide transmission of H3N2v has not occurred.

Clinical characteristics of the 2012 and 2013 H3N2v cases have been generally consistent with those of seasonal influenza, and have included fever, cough, pharyngitis, myalgia, and headache. Of the 16 H3N2v hospitalized patients, most were at increased risk for complications of influenza because of age or the presence of an underlying medical condition. None of the persons ill with 2013 H3N2v infection have been hospitalized, and no deaths have occurred among them.

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06 Jul 2013 Influenza (40): USA, A(H3N2)v, CDC Health Advisory