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The Lost Art of Trong-jug

 
Agarthan Monk
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The Lost Art of Trong-jug
Anyone know anything about it? Probably the wrong place to bring this up. In the wrong hands...
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Im not sure but it sounds eerily familiar, oh hang on, its the jug bit that got me, or rather jugs, plural, that is two of 'em. Allways better with two of 'em. I mean god gave us two hands didnt he? thats what its all about init? two hands = hands on jugs. Sounds pretty reasonable donit?

mmmmmmmmmmm.........jjjjjjjuuuuuuggggggssssss


(two of 'em though, not to partial to the one of 'em ones, its the surgery scar that gets me, just dont like it, course if its your cup of tea well thats allright I spose, dont want to go judging people now do we, wouldnt be right would it?)
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Im not sure but it sounds eerily familiar, oh hang on, its the jug bit that got me, or rather jugs, plural, that is two of 'em. Allways better with two of 'em. I mean god gave us two hands didnt he? thats what its all about init? two hands = hands on jugs. Sounds pretty reasonable donit?

mmmmmmmmmmm.........jjjjjjjuuuuuuggggggssssss


(two of 'em though, not to partial to the one of 'em ones, its the surgery scar that gets me, just dont like it, course if its your cup of tea well thats allright I spose, dont want to go judging people now do we, wouldnt be right would it?)
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It's a little deeper than that I'm afraid. Immortality deep...
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bump For any other monks making the morning rounds.
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vampire lore which is basically what it is..is not very popular nor attractive to many..i suppose your right OP..this is probably the wrong place to have many discuss it..but who knows...GLP people come in all sorts of flavors lol
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vampire lore which is basically what it is..is not very popular nor attractive to many..i suppose your right OP..this is probably the wrong place to have many discuss it..but who knows...GLP people come in all sorts of flavors lol
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Vampire lore? Maybe I'm missing something.

This is an ancient practice that made its way from ancient India and into the teaching of Tibetan masters, hidden away for centuries because of its danger. I suspect it is part of the knowledge that the elitist cabal is keeping secret. Maybe not.
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vampire lore which is basically what it is..is not very popular nor attractive to many..i suppose your right OP..this is probably the wrong place to have many discuss it..but who knows...GLP people come in all sorts of flavors lol
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9602936


Vampire lore? Maybe I'm missing something.

This is an ancient practice that made its way from ancient India and into the teaching of Tibetan masters, hidden away for centuries because of its danger. I suspect it is part of the knowledge that the elitist cabal is keeping secret. Maybe not.
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you obviously know at least a little of it...have you got any links to get us started?
does it have anything to do with Shambala?
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Thanks. I haven't made it through the whole paper yet, but will.

Trong-jug is slightly different. It is a living practice. One that yogis and Tibetan masters used to animate the dead, travel in an animals body, and, the most messed up part, inhabit someone else's body. Once they took over the target's body, the victims soul would be "realeased" (or kicked out really) to inhabit the bardos or heaven, awaiting to move on or reincarnate again. Used in this sense, it is a practice of immortality because the spiritual body gets a new physical body without having their memory erased or ever having to travel through the bardos or heaven.
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Interesting OP!

Would you like to join my thread?

Thread: Physical Immortality - Do You Want To Live Forever?
“If we are peaceful, if we are happy, we can smile and blossom like a flower, and everyone in our family, our entire society, will benefit from our peace.”
Thich Nhat Hanh, Being Peace

"But ask the animals, and they will teach you,
or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you;
or speak to the earth, and it will teach you,
or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S. Thompson

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you'll find a lot more google results by using the alternative spelling - grong hjug
“If we are peaceful, if we are happy, we can smile and blossom like a flower, and everyone in our family, our entire society, will benefit from our peace.”
Thich Nhat Hanh, Being Peace

"But ask the animals, and they will teach you,
or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you;
or speak to the earth, and it will teach you,
or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S. Thompson

revstargazer (at) hotmail.com
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you'll find a lot more google results by using the alternative spelling - grong hjug
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Thank you, I will do that. I will check out your thread too, thanks.
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Trong Jug – The Transference of Consciousness

A corpse can be taken by an evil spirit and become a rolang, but a body may also be taken by a living Tibetan master through the practice of trong jug. The great Nyingma master H.H.Dingo Khyentse Rinpoche explained that “the practice of transference is quite special. If someone is very old and will not live much longer, but still wishes to continue his dharma practice and help others, then he can enter a fresh corpse that is young, strong, and healthy”(Heruka 1986, p. 94). Khenpo Pema Sherab (Interview April 5, 2000) recounted that “along time ago when people would die, an old man who was honest and good would transfer into a young corpse” to avoid the disruption of one’s consciousness which occurs when transfering from one life to the next.

Allegedly, trong jug is no longer practiced today. Ngakpa Karma Londrup (Interview May4, 2000) noted that the transmission from teacher to student has been disrupted and so the lineage of that teaching did not continue.
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Something tells me the practice exists today...
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bump For the Tibetans.
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Very interesting hmm
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Id suggest you study Tim Rifat type material first you dont go into cookie monster territory without adequate self defence,despite their smiling laughing selves these monks have serious mojo.
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Id suggest you study Tim Rifat type material first you dont go into cookie monster territory without adequate self defence,despite their smiling laughing selves these monks have serious mojo.
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Interesting. Confusing, but interesting.
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Along conspiracy theory lines....

I wonder if certain "elite" are not using this technique but with clones?
“If we are peaceful, if we are happy, we can smile and blossom like a flower, and everyone in our family, our entire society, will benefit from our peace.”
Thich Nhat Hanh, Being Peace

"But ask the animals, and they will teach you,
or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you;
or speak to the earth, and it will teach you,
or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S. Thompson

revstargazer (at) hotmail.com
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Re: The Lost Art of Trong-jug
Along conspiracy theory lines....

I wonder if certain "elite" are not using this technique but with clones?
 Quoting: Da Purple Chicken


We'd catch them eventually if they did. But thats not to say they aren't choosing exactly the physical pedigree they'd like and transferring their soul into that body.
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Along conspiracy theory lines....

I wonder if certain "elite" are not using this technique but with clones?
 Quoting: Da Purple Chicken


We'd catch them eventually if they did. But thats not to say they aren't choosing exactly the physical pedigree they'd like and transferring their soul into that body.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 140124


Who the hell would choose to look like any of the Rockefellers, Soros, or John Kerry for that matter?
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 619959


Trong Jug – The Transference of Consciousness

A corpse can be taken by an evil spirit and become a rolang, but a body may also be taken by a living Tibetan master through the practice of trong jug. The great Nyingma master H.H.Dingo Khyentse Rinpoche explained that “the practice of transference is quite special. If someone is very old and will not live much longer, but still wishes to continue his dharma practice and help others, then he can enter a fresh corpse that is young, strong, and healthy”(Heruka 1986, p. 94). Khenpo Pema Sherab (Interview April 5, 2000) recounted that “along time ago when people would die, an old man who was honest and good would transfer into a young corpse” to avoid the disruption of one’s consciousness which occurs when transfering from one life to the next.

Allegedly, trong jug is no longer practiced today. Ngakpa Karma Londrup (Interview May4, 2000) noted that the transmission from teacher to student has been disrupted and so the lineage of that teaching did not continue.
_________________________________________________

Something tells me the practice exists today...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 140124


how could a corpse be young and healthy? The body had to have been unable to support the original person for it to leave and die.Your soul stays in the body till it is unable to support life then the soul has to leave
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 619959


Trong Jug – The Transference of Consciousness

A corpse can be taken by an evil spirit and become a rolang, but a body may also be taken by a living Tibetan master through the practice of trong jug. The great Nyingma master H.H.Dingo Khyentse Rinpoche explained that “the practice of transference is quite special. If someone is very old and will not live much longer, but still wishes to continue his dharma practice and help others, then he can enter a fresh corpse that is young, strong, and healthy”(Heruka 1986, p. 94). Khenpo Pema Sherab (Interview April 5, 2000) recounted that “along time ago when people would die, an old man who was honest and good would transfer into a young corpse” to avoid the disruption of one’s consciousness which occurs when transfering from one life to the next.

Allegedly, trong jug is no longer practiced today. Ngakpa Karma Londrup (Interview May4, 2000) noted that the transmission from teacher to student has been disrupted and so the lineage of that teaching did not continue.
_________________________________________________

Something tells me the practice exists today...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 140124


how could a corpse be young and healthy? The body had to have been unable to support the original person for it to leave and die.Your soul stays in the body till it is unable to support life then the soul has to leave
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I think it is simply worded poorly. Substitute corpse for body or vehicle.
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Along conspiracy theory lines....

I wonder if certain "elite" are not using this technique but with clones?
 Quoting: Da Purple Chicken


We'd catch them eventually if they did. But thats not to say they aren't choosing exactly the physical pedigree they'd like and transferring their soul into that body.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 140124


Who the hell would choose to look like any of the Rockefellers, Soros, or John Kerry for that matter?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11086453


Who ever said they were at the top of the food chain?
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The Egyptians perfected this.
Hence why the elites are obsessed with the Egyptians.
Why do you think people go on about the book of the dead so much?
The Tibetans also had a book of the dead.
Think about it.
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The Egyptians perfected this.
Hence why the elites are obsessed with the Egyptians.
Why do you think people go on about the book of the dead so much?
The Tibetans also had a book of the dead.
Think about it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12258458


I will think about it. Thx, makes sense.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 619959


Thanks. I haven't made it through the whole paper yet, but will.

Trong-jug is slightly different. It is a living practice. One that yogis and Tibetan masters used to animate the dead, travel in an animals body, and, the most messed up part, inhabit someone else's body. Once they took over the target's body, the victims soul would be "realeased" (or kicked out really) to inhabit the bardos or heaven, awaiting to move on or reincarnate again. Used in this sense, it is a practice of immortality because the spiritual body gets a new physical body without having their memory erased or ever having to travel through the bardos or heaven.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 140124


Delaying the inevitable. What? Will the bear never come out of the cave then? Will the seed never break through the soil? Will the any never leave the ground? Will the leaf never fall from the tree?
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 619959


Thanks. I haven't made it through the whole paper yet, but will.

Trong-jug is slightly different. It is a living practice. One that yogis and Tibetan masters used to animate the dead, travel in an animals body, and, the most messed up part, inhabit someone else's body. Once they took over the target's body, the victims soul would be "realeased" (or kicked out really) to inhabit the bardos or heaven, awaiting to move on or reincarnate again. Used in this sense, it is a practice of immortality because the spiritual body gets a new physical body without having their memory erased or ever having to travel through the bardos or heaven.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 140124


Delaying the inevitable. What? Will the bear never come out of the cave then? Will the seed never break through the soil? Will the any never leave the ground? Will the leaf never fall from the tree?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7709473



I think that's a way of putting it, yes.

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