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Wouldn't Americans be stupid NOT to vote for Ron Paul!?

 
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Ron paul is a brit so fuck off.
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Re: Wouldn't Americans be stupid NOT to vote for Ron Paul!?
So easy to call people "stupid" when you have noting else to say. Most of us actually are not "stupid" which means unable to learn.

Most of us are quite capable of learning whatever we want to learn.

True, many of those under 30-ish could have been better educated but then, they didn't really want to be and their hovering parents certainly didn't want them to be....they just cared about the over-inflated grades and egos their kids had.

But stupid....no, we are not.

Misguided, sometimes.

Lazy thinkers, also sometimes.

Uniformed, more often than we want to be.

None of which is stupid.

So how about get a vocabulary and a brain to use it with.
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I wasn't actually stating that all americans were stupid but merely asking a question. Maybe you didn't understand my question or the way i put it across.
Im sorry if you feel offended and i hate to break it to ya but a few responses in this thread have been pretty stupid! Even some some of your fellow Americans agree aswel. At the end of the day all it is, is opinion!
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Ron Paul is a disconnected-from-reality theorist. He would abolish all environmental regulations and withdraw from the world. He's idealistic like a communist, but he trusts corporations (as opposed to the local or federal authorities) to regulate industrial pollution on their own. (That won't happen of course, gold lust will take over as it always does and we would be living in a wasteland) After all the years of effort combating pollution, with RP we'd have air pollution like they have in China, and that's just what we'd see. Ron Paul would be a disaster.
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Have you read his platform? Or better yet have you read this ? -

February8th
26 Things Non-Paul Voters Are Basically Saying

I am trying to understand the thinking behind the great many Americans who have decided to vote for a mainstream politician in 2012.

[link to www.tomwoods.com]

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You know what I find ironic?
You Brits....and most of Europe were drooling all over Obama in 2007.
...saying much the same thing you are now with Ron Paul....except it was Obama.


So guess what?


Just stfu
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


Please. Nobody drooled over him more than most of America at the time. Look in the mirror son.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6630717


Actually that was not true.
Europe was EMPHATICALLY for him.
In the USA.....he only won by a 2-3% margin....and that edge was likely from ACORN votes.....son.

:acorn1:
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I think your out of touch with reality mate.
Just because you saw support for him on the european news doesnt mean thats what the majority of ppl wanted. If you had any clue then you would know that the media manipulate you and your views! Its clearly worked in your case.
So does Fox news portray the views of every American!?
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Is Ron Paul a politician? Yes. Strike One.

Does Ron Paul affiliate himself with either of the two major political parties? Yes. Strike two.

No need for a Strike Three, it's obvious he can't be trusted.
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Yes they would.

There are plenty of stupid Americans though. How do you think we got our current Pres?
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Is Ron Paul a politician? Yes. Strike One.

Does Ron Paul affiliate himself with either of the two major political parties? Yes. Strike two.

No need for a Strike Three, it's obvious he can't be trusted.
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Is Ron Paul a politician? No, not in the sense of romneygingrichsantorumobama. He has served 11 terms in Congress, that is true. He is also an M.D. and is 76 years old, you do the math. Does that make him a professional politician? The answer is obviously not.

Does Ron Paul affiliate himself with either of the two major parties? Yes. Because he has to. Third parties are marginalized and it's almost impossible to get on the ballot in the fifty states. Therefore he has to affiliate himself with a major party. He has ran a third party campaign before, so I suspect he has learned this.


Since there is no strike three, it would behoove you to check this man and his ideas out.


Perhaps you can start here.

Have you read his platform? Or better yet have you read this ? -

February8th
26 Things Non-Paul Voters Are Basically Saying

I am trying to understand the thinking behind the great many Americans who have decided to vote for a mainstream politician in 2012.

[link to www.tomwoods.com]

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Re: Wouldn't Americans be stupid NOT to vote for Ron Paul!?
regardless of my background due diligence on mr Ron Paul:

i will not vote for barrack romney

i will not vote for newt obama

i will not vote for rick hussein obama

anyone who actually investigates this issue - which is a given right many countries do not afford - can make up their own mind, that is up to them.

but when i see a majority of plebs going the direction of the MSN, it pangs my heart. there's not much else to add except that AMERICA ROOCKS YA LESS GLASS IRAN NEOW!!!
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Ron paul is a brit so fuck off.
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Sorry but no!
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I think the idiot meant to say "isn't" a brit.
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rofl
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Exactly.

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You know what I find ironic?
You Brits....and most of Europe were drooling all over Obama in 2007.
...saying much the same thing you are now with Ron Paul....except it was Obama.


So guess what?


Just stfu
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Please. Nobody drooled over him more than most of America at the time. Look in the mirror son.
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Actually that was not true.
Europe was EMPHATICALLY for him.
In the USA.....he only won by a 2-3% margin....and that edge was likely from ACORN votes.....son.

acorn1
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


I think your out of touch with reality mate.
Just because you saw support for him on the european news doesnt mean thats what the majority of ppl wanted. If you had any clue then you would know that the media manipulate you and your views! Its clearly worked in your case.
So does Fox news portray the views of every American!?
 Quoting: Godnose 10453904


1) This wasn't just Euro News that was kissing Obammy ass in 2007. There were NUMEROUS articles on MANY EURO media outlets about how America was stupid if they didn't vote for him. I remember reading that drivel...even polls taken on how stupid America was to vote for anyone else. It was pathetic.
Google the articles...I'm sure they are still out there.
I know the BBC did some of them....and there was a poll in one of the Brit / London Newspapers about intelligence versus voting for Obama.
Look them up!

2) The media couldn't manipulate my views if they wanted to.
I am FULLY awake and not a mindless sheep such as yourself who thinks Europe was not massively PRO-OBAMA.
Better check the mirror.....you are that has been MSM brainwashed and can't think clearly.

Again....
To say Europe was not waving the Obama flag in 2007 is PURE DELUSION and/or WILLFUL IGNORANCE. naughty

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So the big problem with Obama is that supposedly he is not doing anything he said he would when he was running.

So what the hell makes people believe that Ron Paul will? Better off keeping Obama there for the next four years.....at least there won't be any more surprises.

Obama 2012!
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yes, but Americans ARE stupid.
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its all rigged, bullshit, the presidential election is setup to fool the people. TPTB control it all, Jesus could run for President and would lose, cuz he aint running the show.ITS ALL PURE HORSESHIT!!!
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So the big problem with Obama is that supposedly he is not doing anything he said he would when he was running.

So what the hell makes people believe that Ron Paul will? Better off keeping Obama there for the next four years.....at least there won't be any more surprises.

Obama 2012!
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4 more years of Obama and you will not save the USA.
It will be over.
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Americans are stupid
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this ^^
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Americans will continue to vote for the people taking their homes away. Hint: Banks
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Americans will continue to vote for the people taking their homes away. Hint: Banks
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Americans have no choice.
We get nothing but crap candidates...even Ron Paul has some issues.

No one decent will run because....

1) They don't want the full rectal exam of their lives.
2) The CONSTANT media abuse ( see Sarah Palin for example of this)
3) They don't have the MASSIVE $$$ required to run a campaign


If you could overcome those hurdles....we could get some GOOD PEOPLE who care about the USA and what it USED TO stand for.
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I don't understand how people compare Paul to the likes of Obama supporters, Obama never said anything like Ron Paul, no one believed his yes we can and CHANGE slogans unless they were stupid.
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You know what I find ironic?
You Brits....and most of Europe were drooling all over Obama in 2007.
...saying much the same thing you are now with Ron Paul....except it was Obama.


So guess what?


Just stfu
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Please. Nobody drooled over him more than most of America at the time. Look in the mirror son.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6630717


Actually that was not true.
Europe was EMPHATICALLY for him.
In the USA.....he only won by a 2-3% margin....and that edge was likely from ACORN votes.....son.

acorn1
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I don't understand the comparison of enthusiasm for obama and Paul. Posters on this thread seem to be saying that those enthusiastic for Obama in 2008 are also enthusiastic for Paul in 2012. Maybe that's true to a degree since obama is now a proven liar.


The two are diametrically opposed. In 2008 obama was an unprincipled chicago thug with a great ability to read a teleprompter and a socialist who despised the Bill of Rights. He still is.

Paul is the opposite of that.

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There are two groups of people...

Hardworking, honest people who want to enjoy their freedom,the fruits of their labor, and a peaceful life.

Lazy,selfish people who, whether they are are rich or
not so rich...expect others to do the work and pay for
their self-indulgent lifestyles.

The Ron Paul supporters are in the first group...

and the second group of people are supporting all of the other candidates.
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Americans are stupid
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This + +
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Please. Nobody drooled over him more than most of America at the time. Look in the mirror son.
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Actually that was not true.
Europe was EMPHATICALLY for him.
In the USA.....he only won by a 2-3% margin....and that edge was likely from ACORN votes.....son.

:acorn1:
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I think your out of touch with reality mate.
Just because you saw support for him on the european news doesnt mean thats what the majority of ppl wanted. If you had any clue then you would know that the media manipulate you and your views! Its clearly worked in your case.
So does Fox news portray the views of every American!?
 Quoting: Godnose 10453904


1) This wasn't just Euro News that was kissing Obammy ass in 2007. There were NUMEROUS articles on MANY EURO media outlets about how America was stupid if they didn't vote for him. I remember reading that drivel...even polls taken on how stupid America was to vote for anyone else. It was pathetic.
Google the articles...I'm sure they are still out there.
I know the BBC did some of them....and there was a poll in one of the Brit / London Newspapers about intelligence versus voting for Obama.
Look them up!

2) The media couldn't manipulate my views if they wanted to.
I am FULLY awake and not a mindless sheep such as yourself who thinks Europe was not massively PRO-OBAMA.
Better check the mirror.....you are that has been MSM brainwashed and can't think clearly.

Again....
To say Europe was not waving the Obama flag in 2007 is PURE DELUSION and/or WILLFUL IGNORANCE. naughty
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Please. Nobody drooled over him more than most of America at the time. Look in the mirror son.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6630717


Actually that was not true.
Europe was EMPHATICALLY for him.
In the USA.....he only won by a 2-3% margin....and that edge was likely from ACORN votes.....son.

:acorn1:
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


I think your out of touch with reality mate.
Just because you saw support for him on the european news doesnt mean thats what the majority of ppl wanted. If you had any clue then you would know that the media manipulate you and your views! Its clearly worked in your case.
So does Fox news portray the views of every American!?
 Quoting: Godnose 10453904


1) This wasn't just Euro News that was kissing Obammy ass in 2007. There were NUMEROUS articles on MANY EURO media outlets about how America was stupid if they didn't vote for him. I remember reading that drivel...even polls taken on how stupid America was to vote for anyone else. It was pathetic.
Google the articles...I'm sure they are still out there.
I know the BBC did some of them....and there was a poll in one of the Brit / London Newspapers about intelligence versus voting for Obama.
Look them up!

2) The media couldn't manipulate my views if they wanted to.
I am FULLY awake and not a mindless sheep such as yourself who thinks Europe was not massively PRO-OBAMA.
Better check the mirror.....you are that has been MSM brainwashed and can't think clearly.

Again....
To say Europe was not waving the Obama flag in 2007 is PURE DELUSION and/or WILLFUL IGNORANCE. naughty
 Quoting: Burt Gummer
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Please. Nobody drooled over him more than most of America at the time. Look in the mirror son.
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Actually that was not true.
Europe was EMPHATICALLY for him.
In the USA.....he only won by a 2-3% margin....and that edge was likely from ACORN votes.....son.

:acorn1:
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Your arguing with yourself. Im not sayin mainstream media didnt do that with obama. But theyre not giving Ron Paul the same treatment! Its because hes not their choice! Tptb that is.

I think your out of touch with reality mate.
Just because you saw support for him on the european news doesnt mean thats what the majority of ppl wanted. If you had any clue then you would know that the media manipulate you and your views! Its clearly worked in your case.
So does Fox news portray the views of every American!?
 Quoting: Godnose 10453904


1) This wasn't just Euro News that was kissing Obammy ass in 2007. There were NUMEROUS articles on MANY EURO media outlets about how America was stupid if they didn't vote for him. I remember reading that drivel...even polls taken on how stupid America was to vote for anyone else. It was pathetic.
Google the articles...I'm sure they are still out there.
I know the BBC did some of them....and there was a poll in one of the Brit / London Newspapers about intelligence versus voting for Obama.
Look them up!

2) The media couldn't manipulate my views if they wanted to.
I am FULLY awake and not a mindless sheep such as yourself who thinks Europe was not massively PRO-OBAMA.
Better check the mirror.....you are that has been MSM brainwashed and can't think clearly.

Again....
To say Europe was not waving the Obama flag in 2007 is PURE DELUSION and/or WILLFUL IGNORANCE. naughty
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Is Ron Paul a politician? Yes. Strike One.

Does Ron Paul affiliate himself with either of the two major political parties? Yes. Strike two.

No need for a Strike Three, it's obvious he can't be trusted.
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Come on, don't be so simple minded. I expect better from a fellow American.
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Re: Wouldn't Americans be stupid NOT to vote for Ron Paul!?
1) This wasn't just Euro News that was kissing Obammy ass in 2007. There were NUMEROUS articles on MANY EURO media outlets about how America was stupid if they didn't vote for him. I remember reading that drivel...even polls taken on how stupid America was to vote for anyone else. It was pathetic.
Google the articles...I'm sure they are still out there.
I know the BBC did some of them....and there was a poll in one of the Brit / London Newspapers about intelligence versus voting for Obama.
Look them up!

2) The media couldn't manipulate my views if they wanted to.
I am FULLY awake and not a mindless sheep such as yourself who thinks Europe was not massively PRO-OBAMA.
Better check the mirror.....you are that has been MSM brainwashed and can't think clearly.

Again....
To say Europe was not waving the Obama flag in 2007 is PURE DELUSION and/or WILLFUL IGNORANCE. naughty


Your either completely not understanding what i'm saying. Maybe your not wanting to or you really are an idiot!
You keep talking about the fact that europe loved off Obama.
They did! Im not debating about that fact.
Im meering pointing out the fact that ron paul is the man to help america back to some level of normality and peace hopefully!
Your saying that im following what the media think, yet i didnt support obama nor do the european media love off ron paul. So whats your point??
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1) This wasn't just Euro News that was kissing Obammy ass in 2007. There were NUMEROUS articles on MANY EURO media outlets about how America was stupid if they didn't vote for him. I remember reading that drivel...even polls taken on how stupid America was to vote for anyone else. It was pathetic.
Google the articles...I'm sure they are still out there.
I know the BBC did some of them....and there was a poll in one of the Brit / London Newspapers about intelligence versus voting for Obama.
Look them up!

2) The media couldn't manipulate my views if they wanted to.
I am FULLY awake and not a mindless sheep such as yourself who thinks Europe was not massively PRO-OBAMA.
Better check the mirror.....you are that has been MSM brainwashed and can't think clearly.

Again....
To say Europe was not waving the Obama flag in 2007 is PURE DELUSION and/or WILLFUL IGNORANCE. naughty
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Your either completely not understanding what i'm saying. Maybe your not wanting to or you really are an idiot!
You keep talking about the fact that europe loved off Obama.
They did! Im not debating about that fact.
Im meering pointing out the fact that ron paul is the man to help america back to some level of normality and peace hopefully!
Your saying that im following what the media think, yet i didnt support obama nor do the european media love off ron paul. So whats your point??


OP, this poster is purposely trying to derail your thread.

And to answer your question, no, people who do not vote for Ron Paul are not necessarily stupid, they are willfully ignorant and caught up in their own little plastic world. They are afraid of freedom and liberty, that means they would have to be responsible for themselves and their family, not the state. If Ron Paul became president, they would no longer have the long arm of the law armed with guns to steal from my paycheck each week in order to hand it over to them. They don't like that idea. At. All.
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Please. Nobody drooled over him more than most of America at the time. Look in the mirror son.
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Actually that was not true.
Europe was EMPHATICALLY for him.
In the USA.....he only won by a 2-3% margin....and that edge was likely from ACORN votes.....son.

:acorn1:
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I think your out of touch with reality mate.
Just because you saw support for him on the european news doesnt mean thats what the majority of ppl wanted. If you had any clue then you would know that the media manipulate you and your views! Its clearly worked in your case.
So does Fox news portray the views of every American!?
 Quoting: Godnose 10453904


1) This wasn't just Euro News that was kissing Obammy ass in 2007. There were NUMEROUS articles on MANY EURO media outlets about how America was stupid if they didn't vote for him. I remember reading that drivel...even polls taken on how stupid America was to vote for anyone else. It was pathetic.
Google the articles...I'm sure they are still out there.
I know the BBC did some of them....and there was a poll in one of the Brit / London Newspapers about intelligence versus voting for Obama.
Look them up!

2) The media couldn't manipulate my views if they wanted to.
I am FULLY awake and not a mindless sheep such as yourself who thinks Europe was not massively PRO-OBAMA.
Better check the mirror.....you are that has been MSM brainwashed and can't think clearly.

Again....
To say Europe was not waving the Obama flag in 2007 is PURE DELUSION and/or WILLFUL IGNORANCE. naughty
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


You're pretty much saying that the media speaks for all people.

To say Europe is always and exactly the way that the media portrays them is PURE DELUSION and/or WILLFUL IGNORANCE.

There is stupid shit spewing out of idiots in FOX news ALL THE TIME. Does that mean therefore that all american citizens are fucking idiots that always spew out bullshit? And before you post your childish CNN commie pictures trying to prove that your news is better...They suck too! The media is ALWAYS trying to portray things as they aren't. It's no wonder their hosts or journalists get fired when they are caught telling the TRUTH.

If anything, wouldn't you be the MSM brainwashed idiot for believing everything they say is representative of how things actually are?
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Yes, anyone who does not support Ron Paul is either mislead or uninformed. I guess this election would be like a real-life test for Americans, a way to show how much we pay attention.
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Oh PUUULLLEEEEEZZZZZ. If you were paying attention, VOTING would most certainly not be something you would be engaged in.

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