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Daniel's Seventieth Seven
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I am trying to be very very careful with my words right now, I feel that Jesus has asked me to, so I will.
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Good advise...


Proverbs 17:27
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chip, my emails not working all of a sudden, not sure why.

weird. ive tried to send it many times. Even when i try to work on someone elses agenda, it doesnt work. im telling you.

funny!!! Jesuslover
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yea, don't sweat it. people have been screwing with my accounts for some time now. just keep trying it will make it...
The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who in the name of charity and good will shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers! And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee!"
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ny the coming the deciecion is the ufo and the new shot or vacine. don't believe either...
The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who in the name of charity and good will shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers! And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee!"
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sorry once again about losing my cool ,mombis
The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who in the name of charity and good will shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers! And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee!"
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Mombis, greetings. Do you recognize me? You should. Don't freak out, it's all good. Your backup has arrived. Who knows, this could be fun! It will certainly be interesting.
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Forgive me for jumping into the conversation, but, Chip,I hear you have had dreams much like my own. Mombis tells me, anyway. Can you direct me to where I can read about them? Thanks!
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Forgive me for jumping into the conversation, but, Chip,I hear you have had dreams much like my own. Mombis tells me, anyway. Can you direct me to where I can read about them? Thanks!
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first tell me about yours, then click on my name. it will show all my post. i want to know more about you. i hope you don't mind giving your name...
The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who in the name of charity and good will shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers! And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee!"
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I see I'm not the only night owl. Mombis and I have had the same dream since we remember. Started as a battle (apocolyptic) of some sort of colorful ships in the sky. The world was dark and full of mayhem. You could only try to hide. My dreams have been progressive throughout my life. Start out with intriguing lights in sky. They make formations and change into familiar shapes. I am the only one knows somethings wrong. I try to tell people. Them it becomes terrifying. We have to hide. But I never really see "them". Dont know what they are, maybe Im too scared.
I should also mention that I have had dozens of dreams that turn out to be seemingly biblical. Like from Revelations. I had them before I knew anything about the bible. Lots to say but I'll break here.
Sorry, no name.
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Hmm have either of you actually seen a UFO?

Michael.
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I can only speak for myself. Im not saying these things were ufos (in the traditional sense). The lights in our dream were unidentifiable, I think. My thoughts are that whatever it is is not good. Maybe whatever people see and call ufos are just their way of identifying it with something they know.
My later dreams have many elements, including the moon being struck, etc., and seem to go in biblical directions. I have, however, seen things I can't explain.
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I can only speak for myself. Im not saying these things were ufos (in the traditional sense). The lights in our dream were unidentifiable, I think. My thoughts are that whatever it is is not good. Maybe whatever people see and call ufos are just their way of identifying it with something they know.
My later dreams have many elements, including the moon being struck, etc., and seem to go in biblical directions. I have, however, seen things I can't explain.
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I have seen them in real life and in Vissions.

When you see a fleet that's when to worry (from vissions).

Single ones are here to observe and abduct.

They can stop a Jet and hold it motionless in the sky.

beware of green flashes like a laser hitting you if you notice one check for missing time.

Some people emit energy that attracts them. If your Aurora is strong you may draw them to you.

Your prob. thinking ok this dudes a new ager, I'm Not, God our Father has Blessed me and I understand much of what he created. and yes I am Saved.

Michael.
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Mombis, greetings. Do you recognize me? You should. Don't freak out, it's all good. Your backup has arrived. Who knows, this could be fun! It will certainly be interesting.
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thank you, Jesus. Yes it shall lightseeker
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sorry once again about losing my cool ,mombis
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I must stay quiet for now.I can only read.:):) I can only say, Things will become very interesting now!!!!! Getting my popcorn. jk.
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Hello Mombis
Most of us know your heart and where it lies.

God Bless
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Thank you. What do you believe about the bride and what were talking about??, od Just curious> Lots of love to the faithful children of Jehovah. Just trying to know wat everyone here believes. I dont understand who wouldnt know where my heart lies, its pretty obvious, isnt it?? Its with Jesus, the true Messiah.

Gotta be honest, this is getting a little overwhelming. Gotta seek God for a while. God bless you all.
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Hello
I believe this about the bride. I believe that there could be two views on it. The most important thing that is sure is that we are God's children and He will protect us through these coming times. Arguing over what is considered the bride is a mute point because in either direction we are God's children.

I also believ now that the dream symbolizes how God will protect us while giving Him the Glory and that the time is getting shorter for Jesus return.

God Bless
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I also had a dream, once, of myself and other people (not sure who was with me) trying to travel through my town unnoticed. It was night and there were these poles, in the ground, with red laser scanners that scanned in circles. Somehow theses scanners read us, either microchips or they read our dna or something, it wasnt clear. I knew the government was involved but I think so was someone else. So the government was searching for me and this group so we were avoiding these scanners because they were also locators. Weird, intricate dream.
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Hello Mombis
Most of us know your heart and where it lies.

God Bless
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Thank you. What do you believe about the bride and what were talking about??, od Just curious> Lots of love to the faithful children of Jehovah. Just trying to know wat everyone here believes. I dont understand who wouldnt know where my heart lies, its pretty obvious, isnt it?? Its with Jesus, the true Messiah.

Gotta be honest, this is getting a little overwhelming. Gotta seek God for a while. God bless you all.
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Hello
I believe this about the bride. I believe that there could be two views on it. The most important thing that is sure is that we are God's children and He will protect us through these coming times. Arguing over what is considered the bride is a mute point because in either direction we are God's children.

I also believ now that the dream symbolizes how God will protect us while giving Him the Glory and that the time is getting shorter for Jesus return.

God Bless
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1138685


Hello
I believe this about the bride. I believe that there could be two views on it. The most important thing that is sure is that we are God's children and He will protect us through these coming times. Arguing over what is considered the bride is a mute point because in either direction we are God's children.

I also believ now that the dream symbolizes how God will protect us while giving Him the Glory and that the time is getting shorter for Jesus return.
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Hello
I believe this about the bride. I believe that there could be two views on it. The most important thing that is sure is that we are God's children and He will protect us through these coming times. Arguing over what is considered the bride is a mute point because in either direction we are God's children.


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Amen.




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sorry once again about losing my cool ,mombis
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I must stay quiet for now.I can only read.:):) I can only say, Things will become very interesting now!!!!! Getting my popcorn. jk.
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btw, dont sweat it chip.Goofy Thum
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I would like to clarify a comment I made regarding Jesus, the true Messiah. I stated He will not walk the Earth as a man , in this statement I am stating about His RETURN to Earth, not his original coming. Yes He absolutely walked the Earth as a man when He came the first time,Although He was not just a man, He is Gods Son. When He RETURNS, He will come in the clouds of Heaven with the mighty armies of heaven!!! I hope this makes it clear what I meant.
( And not in any spaceships or crafts as an alien race!!!)

I hop this is very clear.
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I stated He will not walk the Earth as a man , in this statement I am stating about His RETURN to Earth, not his original coming.
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Good morning Mombis,

If 'people' are resurrected to live and reign with Christ-

Why do you assume that they are not 'walking the earth'?...

...they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
(Rev 20)



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I stated He will not walk the Earth as a man , in this statement I am stating about His RETURN to Earth, not his original coming.
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Good morning Mombis,

If 'people' are resurrected to live and reign with Christ-

Why do you assume that they are not 'walking the earth'?...

...they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
(Rev 20)



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This is not what I meant. But anymore I am just done saying anything at all because even when i mean one thing people are going to twist it around, so why try. What I am sayin if Jesus is the Son of God. He came to earth and lived as a man, He was the Word of God wrapped in flesh,He is the Son of God. He died on the cross and rose again, defeated sin and death and will return to Earth in the clouds of heaven. as it is stated in scripture. I am having a very hard time explaining what I mean and I know what I know about my Jesus.That is what matters. My Jesus will come and take me away to Heaven when He returns. Forev er in paradise with Jesus. That is all I ever need to know. And noone else will ever take his place in my heart or make me believe anything else. Amen Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Jehovah reigns. Jesus reigns.
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"Is" not "if.' Jesus "is" the Son of God. btw.
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Good morning, DSS
May I jump in? You make an excellent point. I think what Mombis is meaning, and maybe my interpretation of scripture is wrong, is Heaven and Earth join to become the Kingdom that our lord reigns over as King and walks as man. Am I completely off? I don't want to put words in your mouth, Mombis. In this interpretation Earth is not the same as we know it.
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I stated He will not walk the Earth as a man , in this statement I am stating about His RETURN to Earth, not his original coming.
 Quoting: mombis 10385154



Good morning Mombis,

If 'people' are resurrected to live and reign with Christ-

Why do you assume that they are not 'walking the earth'?...

...they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
(Rev 20)



 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 1071051


.. people are going to twist it around, My Jesus will come and take me away to Heaven when He returns.
 Quoting: mombis 10385154



Your words were not twisted.

You were asked a question.

And,

Why assume that he will 'take you away' to heaven-

When the Bible tells you that God and His son are coming here (out of Heaven)?....


Revelation 21:2
And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride...


..the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:

4And they shall see his face...
(Rev 22)




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I stated He will not walk the Earth as a man , in this statement I am stating about His RETURN to Earth, not his original coming.
 Quoting: mombis 10385154



Good morning Mombis,

If 'people' are resurrected to live and reign with Christ-

Why do you assume that they are not 'walking the earth'?...

...they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
(Rev 20)



 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 1071051


.. people are going to twist it around, My Jesus will come and take me away to Heaven when He returns.
 Quoting: mombis 10385154



Your words were not twisted.

You were asked a question.

And,

Why assume that he will 'take you away' to heaven-

When the Bible tells you that God and His son are coming here (out of Heaven)?....


Revelation 21:2
And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride...


..the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:

4And they shall see his face...
(Rev 22)




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 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 1071051


Yes, light seeker is right on my meaning. I am not the best at interpreting what I am trying to convey. And when I say take me away, I am simply referring to the moment when Jesus returns to rescues His people. The rapture. THats all. I am saying He will not be JUST a man. He is the Son of God sent from Heaven.
Pardon my simple terms. I am definately not at your guys level. God is showing me this. I sure have a lot to study, but I do know one thing Jesus is my savior. I am born again in His blood. I am washed clean of my sin in Jesus. His cleansing blood redeems me before the Father. My stains are washed clean. He dwells within me. His Holy Spirit fills me up. I will take lots of time to brush up on my knowledge and interpreting what I am trying to say. For now God has shown me, He has placed me where He wants me in my humble little life, taking care of my children and praying to Him and reading His Holy word, worshipping Him and no other. I know nothing more than what He shows me in His word and speaks into mu heart. For Jesus has shown me the truth I asked Him to show me.
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Good morning Mombis,

If 'people' are resurrected to live and reign with Christ-

Why do you assume that they are not 'walking the earth'?...

...they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
(Rev 20)



 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 1071051


.. people are going to twist it around, My Jesus will come and take me away to Heaven when He returns.
 Quoting: mombis 10385154



Your words were not twisted.

You were asked a question.

And,

Why assume that he will 'take you away' to heaven-

When the Bible tells you that God and His son are coming here (out of Heaven)?....


Revelation 21:2
And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride...


..the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:

4And they shall see his face...
(Rev 22)



 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 1071051


... when I say take me away, I am simply referring to the moment when Jesus returns to rescues His people. The rapture. THats all.
 Quoting: mombis 10385154



Okay.

Then ^this is where we disagree^.

You believe in a 'rapture'

But the Bible says that God and His son are coming here.


(Thanks for a peaceful disagreement)




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.. people are going to twist it around, My Jesus will come and take me away to Heaven when He returns.
 Quoting: mombis 10385154



Your words were not twisted.

You were asked a question.

And,

Why assume that he will 'take you away' to heaven-

When the Bible tells you that God and His son are coming here (out of Heaven)?....


Revelation 21:2
And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride...


..the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:

4And they shall see his face...
(Rev 22)



 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 1071051


... when I say take me away, I am simply referring to the moment when Jesus returns to rescues His people. The rapture. THats all.
 Quoting: mombis 10385154



Okay.

Then ^this is where we disagree^.

You believe in a 'rapture'

But the Bible says that God and His son are coming here.


(Thanks for a peaceful disagreement)




@)
 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 1071051


Hi DSS,

The Bible also quotes Jesus Himself:

Luke 21 : 36

"Watch ye therefore and pray always that ye may be accounted worthy to ESCAPE all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man."

Friend, I do believe that we will have a means, somehow, to escape. Noah , Lot , as well as others have been rescued from calamity.

I respectfully disagree, although no one, but the Father knows all for sure! I will stand for Christ no matter...

Much will take place before the Millenial Reign takes place.

The MAIN thing is the condition of the heart and the belief on Jesus the Christ. We must be 'ready' for the Bridegroom at any time.

God Blesshf
daughter in NYC
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Your words were not twisted.

You were asked a question.

And,

Why assume that he will 'take you away' to heaven-

When the Bible tells you that God and His son are coming here (out of Heaven)?....


Revelation 21:2
And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride...


..the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:

4And they shall see his face...
(Rev 22)



 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 1071051


... when I say take me away, I am simply referring to the moment when Jesus returns to rescues His people. The rapture. THats all.
 Quoting: mombis 10385154



Okay.

Then ^this is where we disagree^.

You believe in a 'rapture'

But the Bible says that God and His son are coming here.


(Thanks for a peaceful disagreement)




 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 1071051



I respectfully disagree...
 Quoting: daughter in NYC



What is the disagreement?


Matthew 24:22
And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.



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... when I say take me away, I am simply referring to the moment when Jesus returns to rescues His people. The rapture. THats all.
 Quoting: mombis 10385154



Okay.

Then ^this is where we disagree^.

You believe in a 'rapture'

But the Bible says that God and His son are coming here.


(Thanks for a peaceful disagreement)




 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 1071051



I respectfully disagree...
 Quoting: daughter in NYC



What is the disagreement?


Matthew 24:22
And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.



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Do you believe in a rapture at some point?
daughter in NYC
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Hi Mombis,

This is for yougrouphugmoshpitwave


Just sayin' HI!
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