Godlike Productions - Conspiracy Forum
Users Online Now: 1,974 (Who's On?)Visitors Today: 1,426,076
Pageviews Today: 2,080,799Threads Today: 505Posts Today: 12,372
07:14 PM


Rate this Thread

Absolute BS Crap Reasonable Nice Amazing
 

two witnesses of revelations

 
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1138685
United States
03/01/2012 07:26 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: two witnesses of revelations
Hello Selena
God has truly blessed me to come here. After talking with my wife more and embracing loving the family more, we have truly come together in spirit.
I blessed and sealed my house and my friend jerr's also. There has been a lasting change in the house since then. My friend even commented that his kids are seeking out the Lord on their own. The friend's kids have a friend who was an atheist. Now, he feels that he is getting attacked in his home by evil spirits and asked jerry to get him some religious objects.
These kids are asking to go to church now. Amen. Prayers are always answered.

Thanks again to all that prayed for me and my family

Wil
 Quoting: odinson222 2644288





great job wil, yes it will wake even the truely a sleep. your young friend need your adult help if he is being attacked. ask him if you could speak with him in front of his parents. be very carful here. gental as a dove.

let me know how it goes...
 Quoting: chipg


Hello
I will try to talk to him since I do see him from time to time over there. the problem is that the parents are atheists also. If he went to my friend is probably because his parents dont want to hear it. You know the drill. They will think that it is in his mind. But I am determined to help him and I will see what I can do.

Pray for me and his name is Ben.

God Bless
odinson222
User ID: 2128308
United States
03/01/2012 07:46 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: two witnesses of revelations
Hello Selena
God has truly blessed me to come here. After talking with my wife more and embracing loving the family more, we have truly come together in spirit.
I blessed and sealed my house and my friend jerr's also. There has been a lasting change in the house since then. My friend even commented that his kids are seeking out the Lord on their own. The friend's kids have a friend who was an atheist. Now, he feels that he is getting attacked in his home by evil spirits and asked jerry to get him some religious objects.
These kids are asking to go to church now. Amen. Prayers are always answered.

Thanks again to all that prayed for me and my family

Wil
 Quoting: odinson222 2644288





great job wil, yes it will wake even the truely a sleep. your young friend need your adult help if he is being attacked. ask him if you could speak with him in front of his parents. be very carful here. gental as a dove.

let me know how it goes...
 Quoting: chipg


Thanks chip for the advice. Btw I hold no power, God has all the power and the glory.
Good night.

Hello
I will try to talk to him since I do see him from time to time over there. the problem is that the parents are atheists also. If he went to my friend is probably because his parents dont want to hear it. You know the drill. They will think that it is in his mind. But I am determined to help him and I will see what I can do.

Pray for me and his name is Ben.

God Bless
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1138685





ok wil. do your best...now they know it's true, you should be able to take huge steps with these guys, remember our streaghtn is or will be in our numbers. GOD is setting the stage, getting all the right players in place. pray about it first, seek him, ask for GOD's help and understanding.

having the answers to their questions and being someone they can trust will take you along way... trust is the biggest step, don't misuse the power you hold, stay humble...
 Quoting: chipg
MURK9

User ID: 9107547
American Samoa
03/01/2012 08:12 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: two witnesses of revelations
btw each soul only comes once, not multi trips. all are like minded....
 Quoting: chipg


Chipg
I think that each soul comes but once, but some souls have multiple lives experienced here on earth.
Many are here now in the final days, each has a task once more.

God be with you.
Michael.
MURK9
MURK9

User ID: 9107547
American Samoa
03/02/2012 02:26 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: two witnesses of revelations
btw each soul only comes once, not multi trips. all are like minded....
 Quoting: chipg


Chipg
I think that each soul comes but once, but some souls have multiple lives experienced here on earth.
Many are here now in the final days, each has a task once more.

God be with you.
Michael.
 Quoting: MURK9





keep praying for us all, include yourself in every prayer, ask GOD what can i do? do whatever shows up and do it well friend...
 Quoting: chipg


Wise words Chip, we all need to Pray for everyone, I pray for mankind and pray for those who I know are in need. I very seldom pray for myself however. God knows what I need and when.I gave my life totally to Him years ago. Where He takes me is His will just as why He takes me there. He has taken me great distances and shown me things very few have seen.
He also brought us together here on GLP. I was thinking the other day about Selena and how she felt she might be one of the two witnesses, If she had never spoken out about her hearing Gods words I may have never let anyone know that I had heard His voice also. Was that why she was brought here to get me to speak out? If she hadnít I may have never searched for the meaning of my brand, and if so I would have never discovered Godís message in the bible. It was there in front of me the whole time I just didnít realize what it was.

I have more to say but will send it to you in a PM.

God be with you.

Michael.
MURK9
MURK9

User ID: 9107547
American Samoa
03/02/2012 12:30 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: two witnesses of revelations
Chip,
Good Morning from the South Pacific,
I sent it last night in a PM but if you want it in a email I will.

Michael.
MURK9
MURK9

User ID: 9107547
American Samoa
03/02/2012 12:42 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: two witnesses of revelations
Already sent you should have both of my emails now.

I think I understand more now also.

I'll send you another email soon.

Michael.
MURK9
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1340117
United States
03/03/2012 04:25 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: two witnesses of revelations
WE GET IT... CHECK YOUR EMAIL.. ON WITH THE PRESUMABLY FALSE SPECULATION...
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 3543147
Australia
03/03/2012 04:46 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: two witnesses of revelations
I was wondering does anyone think that the two witnesses could be women?? The word of God never actually says "MEN"" i dont think. IT says two annointed ones, they, these two, or these, prophets, it never actually says men. Dos it?? If it does somewhere please tell me.
 Quoting: mombis 10385154


The two witnesses is Jesus Christ the Word of God and the Holy Spirit.
khnum
User ID: 455005
Australia
03/03/2012 05:18 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: two witnesses of revelations
Michael and Gabriel in human form,God is not delegating then ten plagues to a stupid human.
MURK9

User ID: 9107547
American Samoa
03/03/2012 02:08 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: two witnesses of revelations
Michael and Gabriel in human form,God is not delegating then ten plagues to a stupid human.
 Quoting: khnum 455005


Thatís an interesting concept anything to back it?

I believe that the archangels have other task in the end times, also they are of Heaven and not Earth.

I think the witnesses will be prophets reborn and over flowing with the Holy Spirit which will give them their powers.

It is quite possible that the archangels are here in human form, as being Heavenly they do not know what it is like to be human. To carryout Godís orders upon mankind in the end times they may need to know what being human is about 1st hand, otherwise what they are to do could cause them to question why.

God be with us all.

Michael.

Last Edited by MURK9 on 03/03/2012 02:13 PM
MURK9
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 7418829
United States
03/03/2012 03:21 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: two witnesses of revelations
Andrew Brightbart was one.
odinson222
User ID: 3673646
United States
03/03/2012 03:27 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: two witnesses of revelations
Michael and Gabriel in human form,God is not delegating then ten plagues to a stupid human.
 Quoting: khnum 455005


Thatís an interesting concept anything to back it?

I believe that the archangels have other task in the end times, also they are of Heaven and not Earth.

I think the witnesses will be prophets reborn and over flowing with the Holy Spirit which will give them their powers.

It is quite possible that the archangels are here in human form, as being Heavenly they do not know what it is like to be human. To carryout Godís orders upon mankind in the end times they may need to know what being human is about 1st hand, otherwise what they are to do could cause them to question why.

God be with us all.

Michael.
 Quoting: MURK9


Hello
The guy is saying the archangel thing because the 2 are claiming to be human on the other conspiracy forum.

Take care.
MURK9

User ID: 9107547
American Samoa
03/03/2012 04:16 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: two witnesses of revelations
Michael and Gabriel in human form,God is not delegating then ten plagues to a stupid human.
 Quoting: khnum 455005


Thatís an interesting concept anything to back it?

I believe that the archangels have other task in the end times, also they are of Heaven and not Earth.

I think the witnesses will be prophets reborn and over flowing with the Holy Spirit which will give them their powers.

It is quite possible that the archangels are here in human form, as being Heavenly they do not know what it is like to be human. To carryout Godís orders upon mankind in the end times they may need to know what being human is about 1st hand, otherwise what they are to do could cause them to question why.

God be with us all.

Michael.
 Quoting: MURK9


Hello
The guy is saying the archangel thing because the 2 are claiming to be human on the other conspiracy forum.

Take care.
 Quoting: odinson222 3673646


can you provide a link?
MURK9
odinson222
User ID: 1553034
United States
03/03/2012 05:26 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: two witnesses of revelations
Michael and Gabriel in human form,God is not delegating then ten plagues to a stupid human.
 Quoting: khnum 455005


Thatís an interesting concept anything to back it?

I believe that the archangels have other task in the end times, also they are of Heaven and not Earth.

I think the witnesses will be prophets reborn and over flowing with the Holy Spirit which will give them their powers.

It is quite possible that the archangels are here in human form, as being Heavenly they do not know what it is like to be human. To carryout Godís orders upon mankind in the end times they may need to know what being human is about 1st hand, otherwise what they are to do could cause them to question why.

God be with us all.

Michael.
 Quoting: MURK9


Hello
The guy is saying the archangel thing because the 2 are claiming to be human on the other conspiracy forum.

Take care.
 Quoting: odinson222 3673646


can you provide a link?
 Quoting: MURK9


Hello
You know the one that is above the top and they say It's secret. Lol. Gabriels name is in the thread, do a search.
Take care
Daniel's Seventieth Seven
User ID: 6618405
United States
03/03/2012 05:31 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: two witnesses of revelations
Andrew Brightbart was one.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7418829


^That^ is one of the most insightful comments on this thread.

But, there may still be two that are despised more than Andrew...


)(
daughter in NYC

User ID: 9116319
United States
03/04/2012 10:10 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: two witnesses of revelations
Hi All,

Lisa-Lisa is running a thread entitled "...outbound departure".

She has posted a link to Jonathan Kleck's radio program. He is worthy of a listen....seriously.

(last time I tried to embed I got banned..)

thanks

God Blesshf
daughter in NYC
neim777

User ID: 9984984
United States
03/29/2012 06:54 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: two witnesses of revelations
Does anyone know if the Bible actually says MEN. My sister and I have established as far as our knowledge and readings it hasnt said MEN anywhere. Ive heard some say that God wouldnt use women because His word states that women shouldnt teach men. what do u think about this?? its an interesting point right?? But not sure of the biblical scripture on it. Just curious.. Thanks for replies.
 Quoting: mombis 10385154


the two witnesses are not two people they are the two tribes of israel the two olive trees.The 144000 which will be 12000 of each tribe
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
:knoup:
Zerubabbel
User ID: 1400310
United States
03/29/2012 07:26 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: two witnesses of revelations
I know I am posting a lot tonight, but i have been searching any forums that are talking about this topic just to see what people are thinking on these two. I read a lot of people saying that they propose that these two witnesses God speaks of will be so knowledgeable and wise and have many answers to many questions for everyone. I have heard everyone say that when these two will appear they will be two men in obvious classic prophet like attire and demeanor. Like we are all gonna know exactly who they are.I just wonder some things. I know that scripture gives us a pretty clear picture of how they will be and what they will do. But does it truly give us a clear picture of anything else about them?? Maybe we are very, very sidetracked with all the things we think we will know about them. I know one thing, they will Love Jesus the Messiah of all mankind and serve Him with everything they are. And they will do anything they can do to get anyone saved by Jesus of Nazareth the true and only Son of God that they can. And they will fight the forces of darkness and destruction with everything that is in them. Thats amazing isnt it?? What if they are not what we expect?? What if they are actually just as scared alone and afraid as many of you. What if they dont know exactly what it is they are being told to do yet because they have only gotten peices of the revelation and they have to figure out a lot of it alone, but they are trying so hard to hear the rest of what God (that speaks so gently but yet as strong as an ocean) has to say to them. What if they are begging and pleading with God constantly to reveal what it is He truly wants them to do and not just in pieces and sections at a time. What if they are praying and asking Him to confirm what it is that He has asked them to do? What if they cry at night all alone because they alone know what God has revealed and they feel so alone and unsure of what He has asked because it is soooo presumptuos to assume and imagine that they dont dare ask anyone about it but they want to with all they have in them. maybe they are two regular people who love Jesus sooo much that they will do anything He asks them to do!! REgardless!!.Maybe its not the joyride many would think it would be. Maybe it would be hard. Sooo hard and lonely and heartbreaking and greivous and confusing.What if they are alone and scared and confused, being tormented with exuastion , and confused, but willing. Still very very willing!! WE definately need to pray for these two for sure thats all i know , that is if we are to assume they were two very unsure but very willing individuals!!Lets pray that whoever they are they will find Gods will and His will will be done in their lives. In case thay are two people trying to find Gods will for them. You never know. I know that many will disagree with this perhaps.Perhaps it is a waiting game for them as well just like you. Not sure but hope someone will tell me what they think of this possibility. Just wondering if anyone else out there wonders these things. Thank you!!!! A friend
 Quoting: mombis 10385154

The witnesses are greatful for your heartfelt prayers, and you are on to something. You have superior wisdom and grace given to you. I would liken you to an angel. Remember it is possible one of the witnesses is Jewish, one man who is predominately at the forefront in Israel, and he will come to full belief in Yeshua soon. I believe very soon the Messiah Himself will appear to this Jewish leader in Israel and he will believe. It will be during the time Jerusalem is made to be a mounument to Wicca, which will be the abomination of desolation Jesus spoke of. At that time I believe President Obama will break the Temple Mount Covenant that was made in the Fall of 1996 by then President Bill Clinton, Yassar Arafat and Benjamin Netanyahu. The Covenant has permitted Isalm and Israel to worship underground in their houses of worship below the Dome of the Rock upon the original soil of the old temple. When this covenant is broken, the leader of Israel will have his eyes opened and he will see Jesus, Praise God he will come to faith in the Messiah and his nation, that nation which is composed of faithfull believing jewish people, will follow suit. Next Year In Jerusalem! Maybe this year?..... Elijah longs for the Jewish people to repent and accept Jesus Christ as Lord of Lord's and King of Kings. Hallelujah He is at the Door. People believe and accept the grace and forgiveness of sins. His gift and sacrifice is more powerful to save than Wicca's ability to corrupt, hate, and to control mankind. Awaken to the Lord and lift up your eyes because redemption is near!
daughter in NYC

User ID: 3337533
United States
03/31/2012 11:53 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: two witnesses of revelations
Hi MOMBIS,

HOW ARE YOU, FRIEND?hf
daughter in NYC
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 12871281
Brazil
04/01/2012 07:04 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: two witnesses of revelations
Nah. Apocalypse is an esoteric book which can't be compared with other scrolls. We know that because Daniel, Joel, Isaiah, Ezekiel do describe visions in some chapters but THE WHOLE BOOK OF APOCALYPSE IS MADE OF VISIONS, number 7 is repeated 52 times (5+2=7) and a series of 7 visions is followed by another set of 7 and goes on like that. This is lietrature style MEANING things which need to be decoded.

I ain't gonna explain the whole thing but the witness is somehting more and you should start by counting the witness. It's TWO of them.

The word testify is derived from the same Greek root as testicle. In ancient Greece men giving testimony were required to cover their genitals with their hand. The word was derived from Latin and was related to Roman custom.

The Latin word testis originally meant 'witness'. It comes from the Indo-European roots *tre- meaning 'three' and *sta- meaning 'stand'. A witness was 'a third person standing by'. From that came the verb testificare 'to bear witness', which evolved into Middle English testify in the fourteenth century.

Where it gets confusing is that testis also -- although not originally -- meant testicle in Latin. The English word testicle comes from Latin testiculus, a diminutive of testis, and first appeared in the fifteenth century. If testis meaning 'witness' and testis meaning 'testicle' are indeed the same word, then the etymology could be that the testicles are 'witness' or evidence of virility. There is also a theory that testis/testicle comes from the Latin testa 'pot', referring to the testicle's shape.

The Oxford Latin Dictionary says that testis meaning 'testicle' is probably "a special application" of testis meaning 'witness' and refers the reader to the Greek word parastates which means 'one who stands alongside another'. In addition to singular and plural, Greek (along with Old English, Arabic, and a few other languages) has what is called a "dual" that denotes two of whatever is being talked about; it is used for things that come in pairs, like hands and feet. The dual form of parastates means 'testicles', which are 'two glands standing alongside each other'. It is conceivable that Latin simply took these two senses of the Greek word and translated them with testis.

In the book of Genesis there are several passages in which a man who is taking an oath puts his hand "under the thigh" of the man to whom he is swearing: "And Abraham said unto his eldest servant of his house...Put, I pray thee, thy hand under my thigh: And I will make thee swear by the Lord...." The Hebrew word in this passage is yarek, which means 'thigh' throughout the Old Testament. My Biblical expert says that this ritual seems to come from the idea that the thigh is the locus of power, probably because it's near the genitals. He also notes that some modern interpreters of the Bible envision it as a swearing on the genitals, with "under the thigh" being an euphemism which goes all the way back to the Hebrew language.

Two OLIVE trees, that "oil" is actual human's seed that needs to be transformed. The number 144000 also appears in Mayan Lord of Pacal and at the right place: on the forehead. Tutankamon wore 143 jewels being himself number 144. 1+4+4=9 just like 6+6+6=9. 6 protons, 6 electrons and 6 neutrons is the number of man because things on physical world are made of carbon. 9 trascends the physical world. That's why in Apocalypse the number 144.000 comes IMMEDIATLY after the verse mentioning 666.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 12871281
Brazil
04/01/2012 07:13 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: two witnesses of revelations
[link to books.google.com.br]

As I said Apocalypse 3:11 indicates the two who give testimony/testicles are also the olive trees.

It was forbidden in Torah the acceptance of men with DAMAGED TESTICLES and whomever ever studied the temple would know the whole structure is ANTROPOMORPHIC, that is in the shape of a human being with the TWO PILLARS being the columns of the human "earth" or body. Shall I show you?

Sack of cloth??????
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 12871281
Brazil
04/01/2012 07:16 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: two witnesses of revelations
The ones who have practiced the path of tantrism have witnessed all sort of catastrophes in the form of visions and the body, eclipses, earthquakes, mountains falling, inner cosmo doom as if the glands and organs were set in equivalent distances to planets and moons. I didn't choose this path and yet I have seen darkness........beyond words a other things, even seen "beasts" as if they were frozen in space/time.
Spiritoftruth
User ID: 13613712
Australia
04/01/2012 07:30 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: two witnesses of revelations
I was told once by a former nun that the two witnesses are always John the Baptist, and Elijah. That whenever the Son of God is about to appear on Earth he is always preceded by these two souls. She told me that the names John the Baptist and Elijah are just their latest incarnations. But that they have been known by other names as well. She said, in a very cryptic fashion I might add, that they are not like humans but actually more like Jesus. Entities as old as creation itslef, with entire kingdoms of their own. She seemed almost frightened when she spoke of them. As though they had incredible power, and she had witnessed it first hand.

Ordinarily I wouldn't bother telling anyone this story. As her appearance in my life was actually quite profound and I tend to keep my experiences with her private. Let's just say he showed me without a doubt, that there is definitely "wiring under the board" so to speak. But since you ask...
 Quoting: PLeasant 6774568


John the baptist is Elijah, they are the same spirit the body of clay is more a vessel for a time but not the true eternal body that can be achieved. The other witness shall not be spoken at this time but let us just say this that God is not happy with mankind and whom would decide the judgements upon the world?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 12871281
Brazil
04/01/2012 07:31 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: two witnesses of revelations
[link to books.google.com.br]

As I said Apocalypse 3:11 indicates the two who give testimony/testicles are also the olive trees.

It was forbidden in Torah the acceptance of men with DAMAGED TESTICLES and whomever ever studied the temple would know the whole structure is ANTROPOMORPHIC, that is in the shape of a human being with the TWO PILLARS being the columns of the human "earth" or body. Shall I show you?

Sack of cloth??????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12871281


Jerusalem temple had a porch near Holy Place, that was the genitalia part:
[link to fotolog.terra.com.mx]
[link to fotolog.terra.com.mx]

Jacobís ladder is the throat
[link to fotolog.terra.com.mx]
[link to fotolog.terra.com.mx]
Brain (Holy of Holies) and spirit
[link to fotolog.terra.com.mx]
[link to fotolog.terra.com.mx]

[link to fotolog.terra.com.mx]
[link to fotolog.terra.com.mx]
Egyptian temples the same thing
[link to fotolog.terra.com.mx]

Great Pyramid behaved like the brain and had exactly 144.000 external stones which were removed later on.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 12871281
Brazil
04/01/2012 07:37 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: two witnesses of revelations
I was told once by a former nun that the two witnesses are always John the Baptist, and Elijah. That whenever the Son of God is about to appear on Earth he is always preceded by these two souls. She told me that the names John the Baptist and Elijah are just their latest incarnations. But that they have been known by other names as well. She said, in a very cryptic fashion I might add, that they are not like humans but actually more like Jesus. Entities as old as creation itslef, with entire kingdoms of their own. She seemed almost frightened when she spoke of them. As though they had incredible power, and she had witnessed it first hand.

Ordinarily I wouldn't bother telling anyone this story. As her appearance in my life was actually quite profound and I tend to keep my experiences with her private. Let's just say he showed me without a doubt, that there is definitely "wiring under the board" so to speak. But since you ask...
 Quoting: PLeasant 6774568


John the baptist is Elijah, they are the same spirit the body of clay is more a vessel for a time but not the true eternal body that can be achieved. The other witness shall not be spoken at this time but let us just say this that God is not happy with mankind and whom would decide the judgements upon the world?
 Quoting: Spiritoftruth 13613712


John was asked once "are you Eliyah?" He said "no". Christ's comparison was about the spirit of them two and their mission, he was not talking about "soul" (nephesh in Hebrew). But I will have to explain what is really Christ (a name also given to the king Cyrus) and the difference of Son of Man and Son of God in the same man, without using as a basis neither churches superficial explanation nor Hollywood movies about the miracle-man mostly thought by millions of Christians.

If they ignore what's the meaning of the Christ (and his family thought he was a lunatic according to the Gospels), how on earth are they gonna know the meaning of Eliyah and John?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 12871281
Brazil
04/01/2012 07:39 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: two witnesses of revelations
The testicles/testimony/ olive trees are vessels as well in case nobody noticed.

I'm out cos I know people are gonna come and write the same things over and over and over ad infinitum. Let'em be.
Spiritoftruth
User ID: 13613712
Australia
04/01/2012 07:48 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: two witnesses of revelations
I was told once by a former nun that the two witnesses are always John the Baptist, and Elijah. That whenever the Son of God is about to appear on Earth he is always preceded by these two souls. She told me that the names John the Baptist and Elijah are just their latest incarnations. But that they have been known by other names as well. She said, in a very cryptic fashion I might add, that they are not like humans but actually more like Jesus. Entities as old as creation itslef, with entire kingdoms of their own. She seemed almost frightened when she spoke of them. As though they had incredible power, and she had witnessed it first hand.

Ordinarily I wouldn't bother telling anyone this story. As her appearance in my life was actually quite profound and I tend to keep my experiences with her private. Let's just say he showed me without a doubt, that there is definitely "wiring under the board" so to speak. But since you ask...
 Quoting: PLeasant 6774568


John the baptist is Elijah, they are the same spirit the body of clay is more a vessel for a time but not the true eternal body that can be achieved. The other witness shall not be spoken at this time but let us just say this that God is not happy with mankind and whom would decide the judgements upon the world?
 Quoting: Spiritoftruth 13613712


John was asked once "are you Eliyah?" He said "no". Christ's comparison was about the spirit of them two and their mission, he was not talking about "soul" (nephesh in Hebrew). But I will have to explain what is really Christ (a name also given to the king Cyrus) and the difference of Son of Man and Son of God in the same man, without using as a basis neither churches superficial explanation nor Hollywood movies about the miracle-man mostly thought by millions of Christians.

If they ignore what's the meaning of the Christ (and his family thought he was a lunatic according to the Gospels), how on earth are they gonna know the meaning of Eliyah and John?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12871281


John was not Elijah when ask but he was in past, when he was asked are you Elijah he said no because that is true for Elijah was him in past, but him in future will be with the spirit he was when Elijah but will have a new name. Mankind know not the mysterys of God and should not make asumptions.
only a scholar
User ID: 11323159
United Kingdom
07/26/2012 11:39 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: two witnesses of revelations
The Greek word for witnesses in Rev 11 implicates the male gender, but the masculine is the Greek default for groups of mixed gender also. So, it is possible that one can be a female - like Adam and Eve. The sure sign will be an enormous anointing of the Holy Spirit on their lives. Hope that helps!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 3531107
United States
07/28/2012 02:05 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: two witnesses of revelations
Here is something for you to consider, The word of God tells us that John the Baptist came in the Spirit and Power of Elijah; Jesus Said of John the Baptist, for if you will recieve it, this was Elijah which was for to come. So here is a Question, Do these two fire breathing Prophets have to appear together, or could they appear about 2000 years apart(John the Baptist at the First coming of Christ, and Elijah just before the second coming of Christ)? According to Subscripture both Elijah and Enoch are supposed to appear at the end of the World to fight against the AntiChrist. But it did not exactly say they would appear together. The Book of Revelation is a Spiritual book, and it cannot by any means be taken too literally. I believe these two witnesses are actually two seperate groups of people who appear in the end time. One group is under the spirit and power of Elijah, and the Other group under the Spirit and power of Enoch. The fire they breath out of their mouth is spiritual fire (The Word of God). And their death may be a Spiritual death (The great falling away, before the man of Sin is revealel) before the second coming of Christ. The Old Testament was more Physical and could be taken literally. But after the Death of Christ, things became more Spiritual; and now we take things in a spiritual way and not so literal.
Jesus Christ is the way

User ID: 2312772
United States
07/28/2012 02:31 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: two witnesses of revelations
Michael and Gabriel in human form,God is not delegating then ten plagues to a stupid human.
 Quoting: khnum 455005


Thatís an interesting concept anything to back it?

I believe that the archangels have other task in the end times, also they are of Heaven and not Earth.

I think the witnesses will be prophets reborn and over flowing with the Holy Spirit which will give them their powers.

It is quite possible that the archangels are here in human form, as being Heavenly they do not know what it is like to be human. To carryout Godís orders upon mankind in the end times they may need to know what being human is about 1st hand, otherwise what they are to do could cause them to question why.

God be with us all.

Michael.
 Quoting: MURK9


Interesting observation. I look at the Lord's Prayer and wonder just how much has been done here already considering that the primary prayer to focus on is the Lord's Prayer at our Savior's behest. Look at the billions of times it has been prayed in groups. "Thy Kingdom come. Thy will be done on earth as it is in Heaven" would indicate a mirroring of Heaven's ways to a degree. How much of the fight between good and evil has been cast to earth in effort?

Last Edited by Jesus Christ is the way on 07/28/2012 02:51 PM

News








Proud Member Of The Angry Mob