two witnesses of revelations

Hello
I will try to talk to him since I do see him from time to time over there. the problem is that the parents are atheists also. If he went to my friend is probably because his parents dont want to hear it. You know the drill. They will think that it is in his mind. But I am determined to help him and I will see what I can do.

Pray for me and his name is Ben.

God Bless

Chipg
I think that each soul comes but once, but some souls have multiple lives experienced here on earth.
Many are here now in the final days, each has a task once more.

God be with you.
Michael.

Wise words Chip, we all need to Pray for everyone, I pray for mankind and pray for those who I know are in need. I very seldom pray for myself however. God knows what I need and when.I gave my life totally to Him years ago. Where He takes me is His will just as why He takes me there. He has taken me great distances and shown me things very few have seen.
He also brought us together here on GLP. I was thinking the other day about Selena and how she felt she might be one of the two witnesses, If she had never spoken out about her hearing Gods words I may have never let anyone know that I had heard His voice also. Was that why she was brought here to get me to speak out? If she hadn’t I may have never searched for the meaning of my brand, and if so I would have never discovered God’s message in the bible. It was there in front of me the whole time I just didn’t realize what it was.

I have more to say but will send it to you in a PM.

God be with you.

Michael.

Chip,
Good Morning from the South Pacific,
I sent it last night in a PM but if you want it in a email I will.

Michael.

Already sent you should have both of my emails now.

I think I understand more now also.

I'll send you another email soon.

Michael.

WE GET IT... CHECK YOUR EMAIL.. ON WITH THE PRESUMABLY FALSE SPECULATION...

The two witnesses is Jesus Christ the Word of God and the Holy Spirit.

Michael and Gabriel in human form,God is not delegating then ten plagues to a stupid human.

That’s an interesting concept anything to back it?

I believe that the archangels have other task in the end times, also they are of Heaven and not Earth.

I think the witnesses will be prophets reborn and over flowing with the Holy Spirit which will give them their powers.

It is quite possible that the archangels are here in human form, as being Heavenly they do not know what it is like to be human. To carryout God’s orders upon mankind in the end times they may need to know what being human is about 1st hand, otherwise what they are to do could cause them to question why.

God be with us all.

Michael.

Last Edited by Michael. on 03/03/2012 02:13 PM

Andrew Brightbart was one.

Hello
The guy is saying the archangel thing because the 2 are claiming to be human on the other conspiracy forum.

Take care.

can you provide a link?

Hello
You know the one that is above the top and they say It's secret. Lol. Gabriels name is in the thread, do a search.
Take care

^That^ is one of the most insightful comments on this thread.

But, there may still be two that are despised more than Andrew...


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Hi All,

Lisa-Lisa is running a thread entitled "...outbound departure".

She has posted a link to Jonathan Kleck's radio program. He is worthy of a listen....seriously.

(last time I tried to embed I got banned..)

thanks

God Bless

The witnesses are greatful for your heartfelt prayers, and you are on to something. You have superior wisdom and grace given to you. I would liken you to an angel. Remember it is possible one of the witnesses is Jewish, one man who is predominately at the forefront in Israel, and he will come to full belief in Yeshua soon. I believe very soon the Messiah Himself will appear to this Jewish leader in Israel and he will believe. It will be during the time Jerusalem is made to be a mounument to Wicca, which will be the abomination of desolation Jesus spoke of. At that time I believe President Obama will break the Temple Mount Covenant that was made in the Fall of 1996 by then President Bill Clinton, Yassar Arafat and Benjamin Netanyahu. The Covenant has permitted Isalm and Israel to worship underground in their houses of worship below the Dome of the Rock upon the original soil of the old temple. When this covenant is broken, the leader of Israel will have his eyes opened and he will see Jesus, Praise God he will come to faith in the Messiah and his nation, that nation which is composed of faithfull believing jewish people, will follow suit. Next Year In Jerusalem! Maybe this year?..... Elijah longs for the Jewish people to repent and accept Jesus Christ as Lord of Lord's and King of Kings. Hallelujah He is at the Door. People believe and accept the grace and forgiveness of sins. His gift and sacrifice is more powerful to save than Wicca's ability to corrupt, hate, and to control mankind. Awaken to the Lord and lift up your eyes because redemption is near!

Hi MOMBIS,

HOW ARE YOU, FRIEND?

Nah. Apocalypse is an esoteric book which can't be compared with other scrolls. We know that because Daniel, Joel, Isaiah, Ezekiel do describe visions in some chapters but THE WHOLE BOOK OF APOCALYPSE IS MADE OF VISIONS, number 7 is repeated 52 times (5+2=7) and a series of 7 visions is followed by another set of 7 and goes on like that. This is lietrature style MEANING things which need to be decoded.

I ain't gonna explain the whole thing but the witness is somehting more and you should start by counting the witness. It's TWO of them.

The word testify is derived from the same Greek root as testicle. In ancient Greece men giving testimony were required to cover their genitals with their hand. The word was derived from Latin and was related to Roman custom.

The Latin word testis originally meant 'witness'. It comes from the Indo-European roots *tre- meaning 'three' and *sta- meaning 'stand'. A witness was 'a third person standing by'. From that came the verb testificare 'to bear witness', which evolved into Middle English testify in the fourteenth century.

Where it gets confusing is that testis also -- although not originally -- meant testicle in Latin. The English word testicle comes from Latin testiculus, a diminutive of testis, and first appeared in the fifteenth century. If testis meaning 'witness' and testis meaning 'testicle' are indeed the same word, then the etymology could be that the testicles are 'witness' or evidence of virility. There is also a theory that testis/testicle comes from the Latin testa 'pot', referring to the testicle's shape.

The Oxford Latin Dictionary says that testis meaning 'testicle' is probably "a special application" of testis meaning 'witness' and refers the reader to the Greek word parastates which means 'one who stands alongside another'. In addition to singular and plural, Greek (along with Old English, Arabic, and a few other languages) has what is called a "dual" that denotes two of whatever is being talked about; it is used for things that come in pairs, like hands and feet. The dual form of parastates means 'testicles', which are 'two glands standing alongside each other'. It is conceivable that Latin simply took these two senses of the Greek word and translated them with testis.

In the book of Genesis there are several passages in which a man who is taking an oath puts his hand "under the thigh" of the man to whom he is swearing: "And Abraham said unto his eldest servant of his house...Put, I pray thee, thy hand under my thigh: And I will make thee swear by the Lord...." The Hebrew word in this passage is yarek, which means 'thigh' throughout the Old Testament. My Biblical expert says that this ritual seems to come from the idea that the thigh is the locus of power, probably because it's near the genitals. He also notes that some modern interpreters of the Bible envision it as a swearing on the genitals, with "under the thigh" being an euphemism which goes all the way back to the Hebrew language.

Two OLIVE trees, that "oil" is actual human's seed that needs to be transformed. The number 144000 also appears in Mayan Lord of Pacal and at the right place: on the forehead. Tutankamon wore 143 jewels being himself number 144. 1+4+4=9 just like 6+6+6=9. 6 protons, 6 electrons and 6 neutrons is the number of man because things on physical world are made of carbon. 9 trascends the physical world. That's why in Apocalypse the number 144.000 comes IMMEDIATLY after the verse mentioning 666.

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As I said Apocalypse 3:11 indicates the two who give testimony/testicles are also the olive trees.

It was forbidden in Torah the acceptance of men with DAMAGED TESTICLES and whomever ever studied the temple would know the whole structure is ANTROPOMORPHIC, that is in the shape of a human being with the TWO PILLARS being the columns of the human "earth" or body. Shall I show you?

Sack of cloth??????

The ones who have practiced the path of tantrism have witnessed all sort of catastrophes in the form of visions and the body, eclipses, earthquakes, mountains falling, inner cosmo doom as if the glands and organs were set in equivalent distances to planets and moons. I didn't choose this path and yet I have seen darkness........beyond words a other things, even seen "beasts" as if they were frozen in space/time.

John the baptist is Elijah, they are the same spirit the body of clay is more a vessel for a time but not the true eternal body that can be achieved. The other witness shall not be spoken at this time but let us just say this that God is not happy with mankind and whom would decide the judgements upon the world?

Jerusalem temple had a porch near Holy Place, that was the genitalia part:
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Jacob’s ladder is the throat
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Brain (Holy of Holies) and spirit
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Egyptian temples the same thing
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Great Pyramid behaved like the brain and had exactly 144.000 external stones which were removed later on.

John was asked once "are you Eliyah?" He said "no". Christ's comparison was about the spirit of them two and their mission, he was not talking about "soul" (nephesh in Hebrew). But I will have to explain what is really Christ (a name also given to the king Cyrus) and the difference of Son of Man and Son of God in the same man, without using as a basis neither churches superficial explanation nor Hollywood movies about the miracle-man mostly thought by millions of Christians.

If they ignore what's the meaning of the Christ (and his family thought he was a lunatic according to the Gospels), how on earth are they gonna know the meaning of Eliyah and John?

The testicles/testimony/ olive trees are vessels as well in case nobody noticed.

I'm out cos I know people are gonna come and write the same things over and over and over ad infinitum. Let'em be.

John was not Elijah when ask but he was in past, when he was asked are you Elijah he said no because that is true for Elijah was him in past, but him in future will be with the spirit he was when Elijah but will have a new name. Mankind know not the mysterys of God and should not make asumptions.

The Greek word for witnesses in Rev 11 implicates the male gender, but the masculine is the Greek default for groups of mixed gender also. So, it is possible that one can be a female - like Adam and Eve. The sure sign will be an enormous anointing of the Holy Spirit on their lives. Hope that helps!

Here is something for you to consider, The word of God tells us that John the Baptist came in the Spirit and Power of Elijah; Jesus Said of John the Baptist, for if you will recieve it, this was Elijah which was for to come. So here is a Question, Do these two fire breathing Prophets have to appear together, or could they appear about 2000 years apart(John the Baptist at the First coming of Christ, and Elijah just before the second coming of Christ)? According to Subscripture both Elijah and Enoch are supposed to appear at the end of the World to fight against the AntiChrist. But it did not exactly say they would appear together. The Book of Revelation is a Spiritual book, and it cannot by any means be taken too literally. I believe these two witnesses are actually two seperate groups of people who appear in the end time. One group is under the spirit and power of Elijah, and the Other group under the Spirit and power of Enoch. The fire they breath out of their mouth is spiritual fire (The Word of God). And their death may be a Spiritual death (The great falling away, before the man of Sin is revealel) before the second coming of Christ. The Old Testament was more Physical and could be taken literally. But after the Death of Christ, things became more Spiritual; and now we take things in a spiritual way and not so literal.

Interesting observation. I look at the Lord's Prayer and wonder just how much has been done here already considering that the primary prayer to focus on is the Lord's Prayer at our Savior's behest. Look at the billions of times it has been prayed in groups. "Thy Kingdom come. Thy will be done on earth as it is in Heaven" would indicate a mirroring of Heaven's ways to a degree. How much of the fight between good and evil has been cast to earth in effort?