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SOOO CLOSE TO DOW 13000..On the verge of an EPIC WIN

 
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scared people celebrate imaginary numbers. this is pure doom.
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Re: SOOO CLOSE TO DOW 13000..On the verge of an EPIC WIN
How did you like my post on GM?

Some crash there huh?
 Quoting: Zazz "Winner" 2


You're referring to the same GM that the GOVERNMENT (err, I meant US as taxpayers) now effectively owns? The same "company" that has put taxpayers on the hook for their ineffective and incompetent handling of their business?

This is the same "company" that sold their metaphorical souls to "keep their head above water", when in reality, all they did was accept funny-money from Grandpa Government in order to keep the illusion of "good-old strong American dream" alive?

Pfft, from the article:


"The government agreed to take stock in GM in exchange for most of the debt. So far it has recouped more than $22 billion. Taxpayers still own 500 million shares of GM, or 26.5 percent of the company. If the government sold those shares at the current price of around $26, it would get about $13.2 billion. But it's waiting for the stock price to rise before selling. Shares would have to sell for more than $53 each for the government to get all its money back, which is unlikely."


No, no we "taxpayers" do NOT own 26% of that fucking piece of shit car-maker company. I don't mean their cars are pieces of shit - the COMPANY. And, what do you THINK would happen to that 26% when it's partially "recouped"? It goes into the coffers of Wallstreet and Government, the very same folks who you've been a whore to this entire thread.

The "taxpayers" effectively own shit. And, when that shit is "sold", on that skanky and rancid stock market of yours, the taxpayers see absolutely NONE of it. It's because it's toxic, and it's owned by the same bunch of goons that you support.

That's what I thought about your link. It's all bullshit. It's all the same exact bullshit that gets us into the mess in the first place.

By the way, GM made a bit over $7.6 billion last year - of which the "Government" bailed them out to the tune of $50 Billion. Hey, us taxpayers want OUR FUCKING MONEY BACK.


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But at least the working man is seeing something

Shows improvement and will continue to improve.
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02/28/2012 10:23 PM
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Job numbers came in better than expected

Greece bullshit drama coming to a close

Haters and crashtards upset with NO CRASH and NO DOOM

Start posting your hateful crap now!
 Quoting: Zazz 2


S&P 3200 within 3 years, especially uranium, tech (Apple $5,000), natural gas and food stocks. US dollar to get much stronger next 3 years.
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02/28/2012 10:27 PM
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any smart person that really knows economy will agree that a market crash with a really hard depression is unavoidable in the next 24 months.

that's reality but listen to zazz. he will keep you positive and distract you from the truth.
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02/29/2012 07:18 AM
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any smart person that really knows economy will agree that a market crash with a really hard depression is unavoidable in the next 24 months.

that's reality but listen to zazz. he will keep you positive and distract you from the truth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11598753


They said that 12 months ago, then 24, 48, on and on...

No crash no doom
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02/29/2012 10:04 AM
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nasdaq just hit 3000. It just wont end !!!cruise
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02/29/2012 10:07 AM
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02/29/2012 10:09 AM
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and get a job other than spreading lies on a kiddie forum


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and get a job other than spreading lies on a kiddie forum


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newbie learns how to click on bs flag. wtgnewbie
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02/29/2012 11:01 AM
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Re: SOOO CLOSE TO DOW 13000..On the verge of an EPIC WIN
Damn Zazz... so you can't answer my posts, and yet you give me bad karma and attack my character, eh? Real mature, dude. Well I won't give bad karma in return, because I wouldn't stoop to such childish lows.

And FYI; my portfolio is doing pretty damn good this year. Hell I'll even tell you what's in it!

I have over a third in USLV (already doubled this year!) and roughly another third in shorts. And the last third is in cash and various options...

Just added to my FAZ position (triple short financials) today, and will continue to add to it if it drops anymore because it's gonna skyrocket once the crash kicks in for real!

EDIT: I had a $65 sell USLV limit order that just got triggered today, so now I have a bit less. I bought it for $32, and I always sell a bit when it doubles.

Last Edited by SuperManny on 02/29/2012 11:09 AM
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and get a job other than spreading lies on a kiddie forum


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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11631258


:fail boat here:


What part of the 13,000 was a lie? The DJIA closed above 13,000 yesterday. Since you seem to have a hard time reading, here is a picture for you:

:crashfail01:


So what does the DOW closing at 13,000 mean? While it is merely a psychological milestone, a very high proportion of Americans know little to nothing about economics and they tend to base their assessment of the macroeconomy's health on closing prices of the DJIA, S&P500, and NASDAQ. They could very well base some purchasing decisions on the FACT that the DJIA closed at a price that it had not closed at since 2008.

Hence, finally acknowledging that the U.S. is not approaching a contractionary gap, but instead we are in the expasionary phase of the business cycle (FYI this is another fact as real GDP has been positive since 2009Q3). Through this acknowledgment, there exists the very real possibility that consumers will spend more money, they will increase their MPC relative to what social class they belong, and this in turn will result in an increase of money within the economy. Thus, firms will have increased revenues and be more likely to hire which in turn will speed up the recovery.

ENTER THE FUCKING DOMINO EFFECT AND THE CRASHTARDS WILL CONTINUE TO FAIL AGAIN AND AGAIN
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02/29/2012 11:31 AM
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any smart person that really knows economy will agree that a market crash with a really hard depression is unavoidable in the next 24 months.

that's reality but listen to zazz. he will keep you positive and distract you from the truth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11598753


They said that 12 months ago, then 24, 48, on and on...

No crash no doom
 Quoting: Zazz "Winner" 2


48 months ago it went down. I don't know if you can afford a TV with all your money in stocks but I think I did.

no matter what stuff you spread here. you will win in the short term and lose in the long term.

I win allways when it comes to markets and economy because I know this shit.

have fun. ride it. but be careful;)
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02/29/2012 01:15 PM

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So what does the DOW closing at 13,000 mean? While it is merely a psychological milestone, a very high proportion of Americans know little to nothing about economics and they tend to base their assessment of the macroeconomy's health on closing prices of the DJIA, S&P500, and NASDAQ. They could very well base some purchasing decisions on the FACT that the DJIA closed at a price that it had not closed at since 2008.

Hence, finally acknowledging that the U.S. is not approaching a contractionary gap, but instead we are in the expasionary phase of the business cycle (FYI this is another fact as real GDP has been positive since 2009Q3). Through this acknowledgment, there exists the very real possibility that consumers will spend more money, they will increase their MPC relative to what social class they belong, and this in turn will result in an increase of money within the economy. Thus, firms will have increased revenues and be more likely to hire which in turn will speed up the recovery.

ENTER THE FUCKING DOMINO EFFECT AND THE CRASHTARDS WILL CONTINUE TO FAIL AGAIN AND AGAIN

 Quoting: Wonkish


Wonkish, I think it's probably too early to sound that kind of all clear on the economy; we've still got a jobs problem, household debt is still too high, and the housing market is still a mess, so I don't think there's alot of help coming from consumers.

Best case may be a few years before any meaningful recovery, but that's assuming we don't see a different kind of domino effect than the one you're talking about, but a derivatives-related meltdown instead.
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and get a job other than spreading lies on a kiddie forum


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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11631258


:fail boat here:


What part of the 13,000 was a lie? The DJIA closed above 13,000 yesterday. Since you seem to have a hard time reading, here is a picture for you:

:crashfail01:


So what does the DOW closing at 13,000 mean? While it is merely a psychological milestone, a very high proportion of Americans know little to nothing about economics and they tend to base their assessment of the macroeconomy's health on closing prices of the DJIA, S&P500, and NASDAQ. They could very well base some purchasing decisions on the FACT that the DJIA closed at a price that it had not closed at since 2008.

Hence, finally acknowledging that the U.S. is not approaching a contractionary gap, but instead we are in the expasionary phase of the business cycle (FYI this is another fact as real GDP has been positive since 2009Q3). Through this acknowledgment, there exists the very real possibility that consumers will spend more money, they will increase their MPC relative to what social class they belong, and this in turn will result in an increase of money within the economy. Thus, firms will have increased revenues and be more likely to hire which in turn will speed up the recovery.

ENTER THE FUCKING DOMINO EFFECT AND THE CRASHTARDS WILL CONTINUE TO FAIL AGAIN AND AGAIN

 Quoting: Wonkish


How much is shipping on those rose colored glasses? I too want to believe we are in some kind of "domino effect recovery"
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whateverpeace
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Re: SOOO CLOSE TO DOW 13000..On the verge of an EPIC WIN
Still above 13000!!

:win:
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[link to www.businessinsider.com]

Highest employment reading since 1984

ROCK ON BABY!!!

5a5a5a5a
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S&P 500 Logs Best Start to Year Since 1991

...the S&P has surged 8.7 percent since January, logging its best start to the year since 1991. Meanwhile, the Nasdaq briefly topped 3,000 in intraday trading for the first time since December 2000.
[link to www.cnbc.com]

:bananajerkit::bananajerkit::bananajerkit::bananajerkit:
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S&P 500 Logs Best Start to Year Since 1991

...the S&P has surged 8.7 percent since January, logging its best start to the year since 1991. Meanwhile, the Nasdaq briefly topped 3,000 in intraday trading for the first time since December 2000.
[link to www.cnbc.com]

:bananajerkit::bananajerkit::bananajerkit::bananajerkit:
 Quoting: Wonkish


Woo Hoo!! Excellent start for 2012!!

5a

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S&P 500 Logs Best Start to Year Since 1991

...the S&P has surged 8.7 percent since January, logging its best start to the year since 1991. Meanwhile, the Nasdaq briefly topped 3,000 in intraday trading for the first time since December 2000.
[link to www.cnbc.com]

:bananajerkit::bananajerkit::bananajerkit::bananajerkit:
 Quoting: Wonkish


Woo Hoo!! Excellent start for 2012!!

5a
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And the WIN just keeps on coming!!

5a
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The higher it goes the harder it will fall.
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"Zazz", and the zombie follower, "IS-BE"...this is not a "great start" to 2012. Matter of fact, stocks are STILL trying to recover what they've lost for at least the last TEN YEARS. Yes, that is correct - the S&P and Nasdaq in particular, are about half of what they were in 2000.

What you most certainly did not hear from the brain dead twits on CNBC and MSM is that:

• The NASDAQ is still down 42% from its 2000 high of 5,048
• The S&P 500 is trading at the exact same level it reached on April 8, 1999.

12 or 13 years of zero or negative returns are meaningless when a story needs to be sold. Last Friday the hyperbole utilized by the media mouthpieces was off the charts, leading to an all-out brawl between the critical thinking blogosphere and the non-thinking ”professionals” spouting the government sanctioned propaganda. Accusations flew back and forth about who was misinterpreting the data.

• [Of the] 242 million working age Americans only 142 million are working [which] means for the math challenged, such as CNBC analysts, that 100 million working age Americans (41.5%) are not working. Don’t worry, [though] the BLS says the unemployment rate is only 8.3%! Things are going so swimmingly well in this country. The other 33.2% are kicking back enjoying the good life.

• The labor force participation rate and employment-to-population ratio are at 30 year lows.

Want more? [link to www.munknee.com]


These are just a few facts that scratch the surface of the BEHEMOTH of a disease that plagues America.


TeCh®
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Well its good to know we are all in such good shape.
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bump to get off of 666 posts lmao
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ZAZZ>sideways<IS-BE

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bump

+60 so far...GO GO GO!!!

5a
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03/01/2012 09:48 AM
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It's looking like the beginning of a bull market.

Bears gonna hate!
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Still no response to how any of this up swing repays the trillions in unbacked debt propping up the entire world market.

Quadrillions in more debt to add to the trillions? Just keep adding more debt, brilliant solution for a debt problem.
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Still no response to how any of this up swing repays the trillions in unbacked debt propping up the entire world market.

Quadrillions in more debt to add to the trillions? Just keep adding more debt, brilliant solution for a debt problem.
 Quoting: .000000000001 7851415


Blah blah blah

No one is interested in your Mad Max fantasy doom.

Some awesome numbers out today..did you see those retail numbers? Crushed estimates

Chrysler? Crushed estimates.

Chicago PMI jumping sharply higher.

Spending certainly isnt a problem.

Keep crying about "the debt". I'll be thinking about that sipping a cool drink on the Cayman Islands.
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I am, in no way, hoping or wanting a crash. Just pointing out the math. It is simply not possible to pay of the debt that already exists.

There is not enough money value in all the labor and resources of the entire planet to pay it.

That is just principle, not counting interest. Since the debt numbers are now growing exponentially, and resources are being depleted exponentially, well, the outcome cannot defy logical fundamental rules of this world.

But, as long as the electronic numbers in the OPs debt account keep going up, everything is good, for him, which is all he really cares about anyway.





GLP