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Anonymous Coward User ID: 5926374 United States 02/28/2012 10:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You're referring to the same GM that the GOVERNMENT (err, I meant US as taxpayers) now effectively owns? The same "company" that has put taxpayers on the hook for their ineffective and incompetent handling of their business? This is the same "company" that sold their metaphorical souls to "keep their head above water", when in reality, all they did was accept funny-money from Grandpa Government in order to keep the illusion of "good-old strong American dream" alive? Pfft, from the article: "The government agreed to take stock in GM in exchange for most of the debt. So far it has recouped more than $22 billion. Taxpayers still own 500 million shares of GM, or 26.5 percent of the company. If the government sold those shares at the current price of around $26, it would get about $13.2 billion. But it's waiting for the stock price to rise before selling. Shares would have to sell for more than $53 each for the government to get all its money back, which is unlikely." No, no we "taxpayers" do NOT own 26% of that fucking piece of shit car-maker company. I don't mean their cars are pieces of shit - the COMPANY. And, what do you THINK would happen to that 26% when it's partially "recouped"? It goes into the coffers of Wallstreet and Government, the very same folks who you've been a whore to this entire thread. The "taxpayers" effectively own shit. And, when that shit is "sold", on that skanky and rancid stock market of yours, the taxpayers see absolutely NONE of it. It's because it's toxic, and it's owned by the same bunch of goons that you support. That's what I thought about your link. It's all bullshit. It's all the same exact bullshit that gets us into the mess in the first place. By the way, GM made a bit over $7.6 billion last year - of which the "Government" bailed them out to the tune of $50 Billion. Hey, us taxpayers want OUR FUCKING MONEY BACK. TeCh® But at least the working man is seeing something Shows improvement and will continue to improve. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11639003 Australia 02/28/2012 10:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Job numbers came in better than expected Quoting: Zazz 2 Greece bullshit drama coming to a close Haters and crashtards upset with NO CRASH and NO DOOM Start posting your hateful crap now! S&P 3200 within 3 years, especially uranium, tech (Apple $5,000), natural gas and food stocks. US dollar to get much stronger next 3 years. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 11629844 United States 02/29/2012 07:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | any smart person that really knows economy will agree that a market crash with a really hard depression is unavoidable in the next 24 months. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11598753 that's reality but listen to zazz. he will keep you positive and distract you from the truth. They said that 12 months ago, then 24, 48, on and on... No crash no doom |
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SuperManny User ID: 1361462 United States 02/29/2012 11:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Damn Zazz... so you can't answer my posts, and yet you give me bad karma and attack my character, eh? Real mature, dude. Well I won't give bad karma in return, because I wouldn't stoop to such childish lows. And FYI; my portfolio is doing pretty damn good this year. Hell I'll even tell you what's in it! I have over a third in USLV (already doubled this year!) and roughly another third in shorts. And the last third is in cash and various options... Just added to my FAZ position (triple short financials) today, and will continue to add to it if it drops anymore because it's gonna skyrocket once the crash kicks in for real! EDIT: I had a $65 sell USLV limit order that just got triggered today, so now I have a bit less. I bought it for $32, and I always sell a bit when it doubles. Last Edited by SuperManny on 02/29/2012 11:09 AM The greatest gift you can give anyone is the example of your own life working. -Orin |
Anonymous Coward 02/29/2012 11:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | :fail boat here: What part of the 13,000 was a lie? The DJIA closed above 13,000 yesterday. Since you seem to have a hard time reading, here is a picture for you: :crashfail01: So what does the DOW closing at 13,000 mean? While it is merely a psychological milestone, a very high proportion of Americans know little to nothing about economics and they tend to base their assessment of the macroeconomy's health on closing prices of the DJIA, S&P500, and NASDAQ. They could very well base some purchasing decisions on the FACT that the DJIA closed at a price that it had not closed at since 2008. Hence, finally acknowledging that the U.S. is not approaching a contractionary gap, but instead we are in the expasionary phase of the business cycle (FYI this is another fact as real GDP has been positive since 2009Q3). Through this acknowledgment, there exists the very real possibility that consumers will spend more money, they will increase their MPC relative to what social class they belong, and this in turn will result in an increase of money within the economy. Thus, firms will have increased revenues and be more likely to hire which in turn will speed up the recovery. ENTER THE FUCKING DOMINO EFFECT AND THE CRASHTARDS WILL CONTINUE TO FAIL AGAIN AND AGAIN |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11657582 Germany 02/29/2012 11:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | any smart person that really knows economy will agree that a market crash with a really hard depression is unavoidable in the next 24 months. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11598753 that's reality but listen to zazz. he will keep you positive and distract you from the truth. They said that 12 months ago, then 24, 48, on and on... No crash no doom 48 months ago it went down. I don't know if you can afford a TV with all your money in stocks but I think I did. no matter what stuff you spread here. you will win in the short term and lose in the long term. I win allways when it comes to markets and economy because I know this shit. have fun. ride it. but be careful;) |
Bil User ID: 8713312 United States 02/29/2012 01:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So what does the DOW closing at 13,000 mean? While it is merely a psychological milestone, a very high proportion of Americans know little to nothing about economics and they tend to base their assessment of the macroeconomy's health on closing prices of the DJIA, S&P500, and NASDAQ. They could very well base some purchasing decisions on the FACT that the DJIA closed at a price that it had not closed at since 2008. Quoting: Wonkish Hence, finally acknowledging that the U.S. is not approaching a contractionary gap, but instead we are in the expasionary phase of the business cycle (FYI this is another fact as real GDP has been positive since 2009Q3). Through this acknowledgment, there exists the very real possibility that consumers will spend more money, they will increase their MPC relative to what social class they belong, and this in turn will result in an increase of money within the economy. Thus, firms will have increased revenues and be more likely to hire which in turn will speed up the recovery. ENTER THE FUCKING DOMINO EFFECT AND THE CRASHTARDS WILL CONTINUE TO FAIL AGAIN AND AGAIN Wonkish, I think it's probably too early to sound that kind of all clear on the economy; we've still got a jobs problem, household debt is still too high, and the housing market is still a mess, so I don't think there's alot of help coming from consumers. Best case may be a few years before any meaningful recovery, but that's assuming we don't see a different kind of domino effect than the one you're talking about, but a derivatives-related meltdown instead. |
Starwind User ID: 4546990 United States 02/29/2012 01:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | :fail boat here: What part of the 13,000 was a lie? The DJIA closed above 13,000 yesterday. Since you seem to have a hard time reading, here is a picture for you: :crashfail01: So what does the DOW closing at 13,000 mean? While it is merely a psychological milestone, a very high proportion of Americans know little to nothing about economics and they tend to base their assessment of the macroeconomy's health on closing prices of the DJIA, S&P500, and NASDAQ. They could very well base some purchasing decisions on the FACT that the DJIA closed at a price that it had not closed at since 2008. Hence, finally acknowledging that the U.S. is not approaching a contractionary gap, but instead we are in the expasionary phase of the business cycle (FYI this is another fact as real GDP has been positive since 2009Q3). Through this acknowledgment, there exists the very real possibility that consumers will spend more money, they will increase their MPC relative to what social class they belong, and this in turn will result in an increase of money within the economy. Thus, firms will have increased revenues and be more likely to hire which in turn will speed up the recovery. ENTER THE FUCKING DOMINO EFFECT AND THE CRASHTARDS WILL CONTINUE TO FAIL AGAIN AND AGAIN How much is shipping on those rose colored glasses? I too want to believe we are in some kind of "domino effect recovery" |
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Anonymous Coward 02/29/2012 04:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | S&P 500 Logs Best Start to Year Since 1991 ...the S&P has surged 8.7 percent since January, logging its best start to the year since 1991. Meanwhile, the Nasdaq briefly topped 3,000 in intraday trading for the first time since December 2000. [link to www.cnbc.com] :bananajerkit::bananajerkit::bananajerkit::bananajerkit: |
IS-BE User ID: 10432431 United States 02/29/2012 04:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | S&P 500 Logs Best Start to Year Since 1991 Quoting: Wonkish ...the S&P has surged 8.7 percent since January, logging its best start to the year since 1991. Meanwhile, the Nasdaq briefly topped 3,000 in intraday trading for the first time since December 2000. [link to www.cnbc.com] :bananajerkit::bananajerkit::bananajerkit::bananajerkit: Woo Hoo!! Excellent start for 2012!! Last Edited by IS-BE on 02/29/2012 04:19 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11682029 United States 02/29/2012 05:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | S&P 500 Logs Best Start to Year Since 1991 Quoting: Wonkish ...the S&P has surged 8.7 percent since January, logging its best start to the year since 1991. Meanwhile, the Nasdaq briefly topped 3,000 in intraday trading for the first time since December 2000. [link to www.cnbc.com] :bananajerkit::bananajerkit::bananajerkit::bananajerkit: Woo Hoo!! Excellent start for 2012!! And the WIN just keeps on coming!! |
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TeChNoXiC® User ID: 3250487 United States 02/29/2012 10:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Zazz", and the zombie follower, "IS-BE"...this is not a "great start" to 2012. Matter of fact, stocks are STILL trying to recover what they've lost for at least the last TEN YEARS. Yes, that is correct - the S&P and Nasdaq in particular, are about half of what they were in 2000. What you most certainly did not hear from the brain dead twits on CNBC and MSM is that: • The NASDAQ is still down 42% from its 2000 high of 5,048 • The S&P 500 is trading at the exact same level it reached on April 8, 1999. 12 or 13 years of zero or negative returns are meaningless when a story needs to be sold. Last Friday the hyperbole utilized by the media mouthpieces was off the charts, leading to an all-out brawl between the critical thinking blogosphere and the non-thinking ”professionals” spouting the government sanctioned propaganda. Accusations flew back and forth about who was misinterpreting the data. • [Of the] 242 million working age Americans only 142 million are working [which] means for the math challenged, such as CNBC analysts, that 100 million working age Americans (41.5%) are not working. Don’t worry, [though] the BLS says the unemployment rate is only 8.3%! Things are going so swimmingly well in this country. The other 33.2% are kicking back enjoying the good life. • The labor force participation rate and employment-to-population ratio are at 30 year lows. Want more? [link to www.munknee.com] These are just a few facts that scratch the surface of the BEHEMOTH of a disease that plagues America. TeCh® I'm not a doctor; I don't have patience. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1314164 United States 03/01/2012 10:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Still no response to how any of this up swing repays the trillions in unbacked debt propping up the entire world market. Quoting: .000000000001 7851415 Quadrillions in more debt to add to the trillions? Just keep adding more debt, brilliant solution for a debt problem. Blah blah blah No one is interested in your Mad Max fantasy doom. Some awesome numbers out today..did you see those retail numbers? Crushed estimates Chrysler? Crushed estimates. Chicago PMI jumping sharply higher. Spending certainly isnt a problem. Keep crying about "the debt". I'll be thinking about that sipping a cool drink on the Cayman Islands. |
debtors prison User ID: 7851415 United States 03/01/2012 10:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am, in no way, hoping or wanting a crash. Just pointing out the math. It is simply not possible to pay of the debt that already exists. There is not enough money value in all the labor and resources of the entire planet to pay it. That is just principle, not counting interest. Since the debt numbers are now growing exponentially, and resources are being depleted exponentially, well, the outcome cannot defy logical fundamental rules of this world. But, as long as the electronic numbers in the OPs debt account keep going up, everything is good, for him, which is all he really cares about anyway. |