Some tips on reading the King James version of the Bible to know the Lord better.

do not put the bible before God, seek the truth in all things.

Bible scholarship is mch better now. The KJV contains many inaccracies corrected by later versions. Yes, King James was a notorius homosexual but that has nothing to do with anything.

Whats the XXX stand for? Triple cross?

the cross, the mark of cain:

[link to www.freemasonrywatch.org]

ah yes, the mark of Cain!

1 out of ever 4 words in the King James Bible is wrong. Study the original Hebrew Greek and Aramaic.
The truth will come out and all those silly stories will make sense.

Why don´t you write a mythological book on how to
read the mythological book?

Excerpt from "Bible Study Tips:
[link to www.tentmaker.org]

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The King James Bible has been reprinted many times. There have been hundreds of spelling mistakes in the KJV, some very embarrassing. Seems the Holy Spirit was incapable of "inspiring" the printers while He supposedly "inspired" the translators. In the 1611 editions of the KJV, some had "Then cometh Judas" in Matt. 26:36, which should have read "Then cometh Jesus." The two editions of the first edition of the 1611 KJV differed from each other in several respects. In later printings, one became known as the "Wicked Bible" because it omitted the word "not" from the seventh commandment. Another was nicknamed the "Unrighteous Bible" because the "unrighteous would inherit the Kingdom. There was the "Vinegar" KJV because it contained the "Parable of the Vinegar." There was also the "Ears to Ear Bible" as well as others.

In the late nineteenth century, the American Bible Society examined six editions of the King James Bible and discovered over 24,000 variations between the editions. Surely English translations of the Bible are NOT inerrant.

The phrase "Him that liveth for ever and ever," (Rev. 5:14), "our Lord Jesus Christ," (Eph. 3:14) "and he trembled and astonished, said, Lord, what wilt thou have me to do? And the Lord said to him…" (Acts 9:6) occurs in not a single Greek manuscript. The phrase "book of life" in Rev. 22:19 also occurs in no known Greek manuscript on which the New Testament writings are based. So where did the King James translators get these and other scriptures which are NOT in the Greek manuscripts? From the corrupt Roman Catholic Latin Vulgate!

The King James Bible contains references to mythological characters which do not actually exist. Their knowledge of Hebrew was NOT very good. They were filled with superstitions and some of them crept into their translation. Therefore we find "unicorns" (Deut. 33:17; Ps. 22:21; Isa. 34:7; etc.), the satyr (Isa. 13:21; 34:14), the dragon (Deut. 32:33; Job 30:29; Ps. 44:19; etc.), and the cockatrice (Isa. 11:8; 14:29; 59:5; Jer. 8:17). Jack P. Lewis in his excellent book "The English Bible, from KJV to NIV" writes speaking of the KJV translators, "They probably thought the creatures existed. They did encounter trouble in Deuteronomy 33:17 where the unicorns has horns (plural), but the translators solved the problem by reading "unicorns." The arrowsnake (Gen. 49:11, margin) is also a creature unknown to zoology….Even when translators are not consciously selecting words that reflect their religious bias, the words they select DO influence the reader´s thinking."

King James made the translators agree to 15 rules which they had to abide by in translating. One was "The old Eccleciastical Words to be kept, viz, the Word "Church" not to be translated "Congregation" &c." Some Christians felt that we shouldn´t be using a term like "church" which clearly had pagan and mythological attachments to it. In the seventeenth century pagan as well as Jewish temples were also called "churches." The real origin of the word "church" comes from the Greek word "Kirke" (Circe in Anglo-Saxon), NOT ekklesia or kiriakon as some theologians suggest. Kirke was the mythological daughter of the Sun God who had power to turn men into animals. (For much more information on this amazing discovery, write to Tentmaker Publications.)

The word "Lucifer" in the KJV has NO manuscript support whatsoever in Isaiah 14:12. The term is Latin, not Hebrew. Again this was borrowed from the corrupt Latin Vulgate.

Many books have pointed out the thousands of errors contained in the King James Bible. How anyone can call it "inerrant" is really beyond comprehension, yet many Christians do. This speaks of the sad condition Christians are in regarding proper ways to study. Most denominational teachings are designed to continue to perpetuate error, NOT truth. One must get out of denominational influence if they are going to be led by the Spirit of God into all Truth. (John 16:13) Of all the books on the subject, I would recommend most "The English Bible From KJV to NIV" by Jack P. Lewis, published by Baker Book House, 1991. This book points out many errors in other leading translations of the Greek and Hebrew Scriptures making it very plain that there is no such thing as an "inerrant" translation of the Hebrew and Greek Scriptures. While Bible Translations are very useful tools, if one trusts their translation too much without understanding that it is NOT without errors, one may really get burned badly from their Bible. I was greatly deceived by the King James Bible AND by those who promoted it as the "Authorized" Inerrant Word of God. This was and is simply a gross misleading lie.

ac 344

Quite frankly I see no good reason why I should place any trust in what the American Bible Society says.

The fact is that the KJV not withstanding that there may or may not be some errors in it "rings true". Do you not think that The Lord who knows everything is aware of these things.

I also notice that you have not suggested another Bible version to take it´s place. Is that perhaps because you would rather that we don´t read the Bible in the first place?

I thought this was tips on reading the King James?


Here is a real tip..


2 Corinthians 13:1 " This is the third time I am coming to you. In the mouth of two or three witness shal every word be established."

That means this..Not only does it take two flesh wintness to do Gods work. But here is the spritual side of it. You must have two or three verses to confirm the Word. When you follow this scenario, you cannot be taken in by one verse Billy Bobs pastors.
Tip 2:
Christ gives hidden manna.
Christ feeds His sheep with hidden spiritual truths that very few see. Read John chapter 8:all a little closer to validate what I just shared..

"I also notice that you have not suggested another Bible version to take it´s place. Is that perhaps because you would rather that we don´t read the Bible in the first place?"

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No, I never even implied I would discourage anyone from reading and studying the Bible. I was just trying to point out that the KJV is by no means somehow especially inspired or "sacred." Not to mention much of the archaic verbiage and sentence structure that can sometimes make the plain meaning hard to understand. And it was not translated from the original languages and earlier manuscripts, but the Latin vulgate.

I myself use and compare a number of translations and study aids -- the meaning is generally self evident if context is not ignored. I do use the KJV, but I think the NIV (New International Version) is one of the better translations. Not that I am any scholar, but many very conservative scholars also speak highly of the NIV.

Modern scholarship in the Biblical field and all the related fields (archeology, history, manuscripts, etc.) has not detracted from the authenticity and inspiration of the scriptures, but rather confirmed it more than ever. But there´s no need to limit oneself to the KJV just because it was one of the first translations into "modern" English. And yes, there are some bad translations -- for example ones that don´t even claim to be translations but paraphrases, such as "The Living Bible."

I believe that the vast increase and availability of Biblical study aids in the last hundred years is God´s will and part of His plan, and also part of the end-time "increase in knowledge" spoken of in the book of Daniel.

And by the way, the full article I linked to in my previous post has many good tips on Bible study.

The most important tip you´ll EVER read:

First go to Google and type in
"American Baconiana"

Then read everything you can about it.

Considering that Francis Bacon authored the King James version of the Bible, it is important to know his methods and techniques. Which of course will prove more fruitful if you have a facsimile copy of the original 1st edition.

Francis Bacon was not on your side and did not have your best interest at heart.

I don´t think anyone knows for certain that King James was a homo. I think that rumor was put out there so Christians would accept the NIV ´new world order´ edition. The new edition is given out with rumor and innuendo - no thanks.

I´ll be on top of the heap!
My rivals back home
It´s not that I´m bitter
But think how they´ll squirm
When they see how I glitter!
The ladies at court
Will be all a-twitter
The king will reward me
He´ll knight me ... no, lord me!


It´s glory they´ll gimme
My dear friend, King Jimmy
Will probably build me a shrine
When all of the gold is mine

I like the Jefferson bible. Anyone else.

Lester is that you?

Oh say, can you see by the dawn´s early light?
What so proudly we hail, as the twilight stands streaming.

And the rockets red glare! The bombs bursting in air, gave proof through the night that our flag was still there.

Oh say, does that Star Spangled banner yet wave for the land of the free and the home of the brave?

Yes it does. But the guy who wrote this did not write the Bible.

Francis Scott Key is not Francis Bacon either.

over 140,000 things sneaked in, just enough to make the bible about as spiritual as freak brothers comics

344,

"I believe that the vast increase and availability of Biblical study aids in the last hundred years is God´s will and part of His plan, and also part of the end-time "increase in knowledge" spoken of in the book of Daniel."

That is part of the problem. Read the Bible not the study aids. 100 years ago people did not have such vast amounts of distractions that (apart from perhaps a few) are much more of a hinderance than a help. Has our general level of understanding dropped so sharply in the last 100 years that we are incapable of reading the Bible as a stand alone book. Er...on second thoughts...

"Read the Bible the same way that you would read the California Highway Code, or a Singer Sewing Machine Manual. ie...Do not look for fancyful interpreations."

Or I could just read it as a piece of macabe horror, due to all the bloodlust, rape, pillaging, death, eternal torment, and destruction ordered by "God". Another mind-trap, is all it is.

19.47 ...

Whatever ...

I never said I don´t "just read" the scriptures (as well as study) -- you are excellent at putting words in my mouth. If you want to remain ignorant of the knowledge that is available as a result of God working through Spirit-led expositors and researchers ... be my guest. And I don´t mean being spoon fed -- true knowledge is verifiable for oneself.

I don´t see a concordance, a lexicon, Bible dictionaries, comparing translations, etc. as an evil. I suppose you are the type who won´t consider anything that isn´t presented by your own group or denomination, or anything that challenges a particular paradigm or interpretation you have established in your mind. I prefer to grow in grace and knowledge -- that is one of the reasons for the Church (and I´m not talking about some organization) the gifts and talents God has distributed among it. So if you want, go ahead andlock your door and just read your King James Bible.

It is a common fantasy that the King James is somehow superior to all other modern translations.
They all have mistakes, and the King James is not particularly reliable itself.
If accuracy is that important to you, there is no easy way out.You have to learn Hebrew and Greek.

1947:
The only part of this thread worth reading is that part you keep trying to condemn--344´s contribution.
That makes me think you know your blather about King James is insincere, and you are not willing that others fail to be deceived by your silly adherence to the fiction that there is something just wonderful about that error ridden version.
Probably the 2nd most common bs that people relate about that KJV is that they do not have any trouble with the archaic language it employs.That is just silliness, especially since their command of language is often similar to yours, which most charitably could be called ´functional´.
Anyone who is being honest has to admit that using a language which is not his usual everday language is at least somewhat of a hindrance.

if u want to know the Creator, open your heart to others and stop wasting time reading mumbo jumbo.

Have a nice day

ac 186,

When you read the California Highway Code you study it carefully because you want something, in this case to pass the test and get a driving license. Therefore you will give it the best attention that you are capable of. This is not something that most people do to the same extent with a novel, unless perhaps it´s a particularly good one.

ac344,

"If you want to remain ignorant of the knowledge that is available as a result of God working through Spirit-led expositors and researchers ... be my guest"

What you say is true enough and I quite readly admit that I read quite a lot of what other people say about the Bible and find that in many cases it does give me insights that I have missed.

However the origional purpose of this thread was to get people who have not read the Bible ever, or who have not read it for a long time to get started again. So what I am saying to them is "start right" get the best Bible version in English that is available. And yes I am saying to stay away from other material (I will admit that I should have made it more clear) for now. The problem being as I am sure you are aware is that there is also a lot of false stuff out there and people who are new to Christanity are in much greater danger of being enticed along one of the Devils many false paths. Later on when they have a good basic knowledge then by all means start exploring.

No I don´t have any particular "brand" of Christianity that I wish to get anyone to join. In fact I would say that from what I can see Bibically true churches are few and far between nowadays. It is my sincere hope that people looking for a church will find a true one.

It´s interesting to me, that the 1611 Authorized King James Version is the only volume of scripture that is not copywrited by humans, some editions have maps and pictures and such that are copywrited, but not the scriptural text itself, like the scriptural text of the modern versions are. It´s also interesting to me, that like is the case with Hebrew and Greek, even the English translations of the KJV scriptures can be gleaned for Gematria [ word measuring ] and equadistant letter sequencing.

19.47 Who does the bible say is the God of this world?