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Christians claimed their faith was under attack yesterday after a test case bid to outlaw prayers before council meetings was won by the National Secular Society. The landmark ruling will affect councils throughout England and Wales.

Describing the ruling as bizarre, Simon Calvert of the Christian Institute said the High Court had taken sides with those whose goal is to undermine our Christian heritage.

[link to www.express.co.uk]

Would this happen in the US?
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Simon Calvert of the Christian Institute said the High Court had taken sides with those whose goal is to undermine our Christian heritage.
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MI5 should hire this guy
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Religion is a private issue. Doesn't belong in public places.
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Religion is a private issue. Doesn't belong in public places.
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So Christian prayers said for a couple of minutes before a meeting in a Christian country's banned, but things like this are okay? (Could only find youtubes of France, but I have pictures of the same in London - don't know how to download pictures though)

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Revelations 12:17 - And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

This could have already happened in the past, but history is known to repeat itself.
"A truth's initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed. When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker, a raving lunatic."
-Dresden James

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
-Arthur Schopenhauer
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Christians claimed their faith was under attack yesterday after a test case bid to outlaw prayers before council meetings was won by the National Secular Society. The landmark ruling will affect councils throughout England and Wales.

Describing the ruling as bizarre, Simon Calvert of the Christian Institute said the High Court had taken sides with those whose goal is to undermine our Christian heritage.

[link to www.express.co.uk]

Would this happen in the US?
 Quoting: Destiny 2023


Not being funny but why would you want to say a prayer before organising the planning permission for a new extension on a house. or the moving of a street light. or the alotment of money to different sectors of the community.
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Christians claimed their faith was under attack yesterday after a test case bid to outlaw prayers before council meetings was won by the National Secular Society. The landmark ruling will affect councils throughout England and Wales.

Describing the ruling as bizarre, Simon Calvert of the Christian Institute said the High Court had taken sides with those whose goal is to undermine our Christian heritage.

[link to www.express.co.uk]

Would this happen in the US?
 Quoting: Destiny 2023


Not being funny but why would you want to say a prayer before organising the planning permission for a new extension on a house. or the moving of a street light. or the alotment of money to different sectors of the community.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10253103


OK maybe its old-fashioned, but its like saying grace before meals, its like the prayers in school assemblies that have now been banned, its just another chip hacked out of British Christian traditions that are being swept aside - fine if it applies to all religions, but as quickly as Christian traditions are being destroyed more mosques, islamic schools and even sharia law courts are taking their place.
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Religion is a private issue. Doesn't belong in public places.
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So Christian prayers said for a couple of minutes before a meeting in a Christian country's banned, but things like this are okay? (Could only find youtubes of France, but I have pictures of the same in London - don't know how to download pictures though)


 Quoting: Destiny 2023


You show me a clip of religion in a public space, I just told you that is not ok.
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So Christian prayers said for a couple of minutes before a meeting in a Christian country's banned, but things like this are okay? (Could only find youtubes of France, but I have pictures of the same in London - don't know how to download pictures though)


 Quoting: Destiny 2023


oh the racism...

it's irrelevant these muslims were praying on the street during the ramadan ok and they had no building to pray in at this time near their work.

ramadan is a huge celebration and very serious, you must stop what you are doing at the moment to pray many times/day ok.

seriously ireland you should look outside of your country more often and not only with your computer or tv.

we also have this for your info.


yeah they are praying on the street and singing to thx the virgo, Mary, and it's just for ONE DAY that our country permit this because we recognize the right to everybody to have a different religion and to celebrate some peculiar feast on public.




and also this, OMG jewish people celebrating hanukkah on the streets of paris, right in front the biggest place of the city: place de l'opéra redface




go educate yourself about us now book
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02/11/2012 06:33 AM
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Right on, religion doe NOT belong in public places.
One never knows what God they pray to!
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02/11/2012 06:35 AM
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Religion is a private issue. Doesn't belong in public places.
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So take the fucking minarets and prayer speakers down fuckwit?
How about it?
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This is the HIGH fucking court.
There is no other fucking court.
You can't even appeal this.
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Look up the coronation of a monarch in the UK.
The Monarch is said to be a representative of God, the Christian GOD.
Therefore the fundamental basis of the UK is a Christian God.
Whether you like it or not.
If you ban Prayer in a council meeting, you also have to throw out the Queen.
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Look up the coronation of a monarch in the UK.
The Monarch is said to be a representative of God, the Christian GOD.
Therefore the fundamental basis of the UK is a Christian God.
Whether you like it or not.
If you ban Prayer in a council meeting, you also have to throw out the Queen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9922887


the queen is satanic not christian churchlady
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Religion is a private issue. Doesn't belong in public places.
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exactly.....you normally find people who are not religious are very intelligent....although I also don't like the pure scientist people either.....I prefer people who are not absolute in their beliefs in their brief time spent on planet earth.
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Re: UK councils ban Christian prayers
Look up the coronation of a monarch in the UK.
The Monarch is said to be a representative of God, the Christian GOD.
Therefore the fundamental basis of the UK is a Christian God.
Whether you like it or not.
If you ban Prayer in a council meeting, you also have to throw out the Queen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9922887


the queen is satanic not christian churchlady
 Quoting: Monbazillac


I know, but for appearances, which is all courts are, she is.
So you see the hypocrisy?
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So Christian prayers said for a couple of minutes before a meeting in a Christian country's banned, but things like this are okay? (Could only find youtubes of France, but I have pictures of the same in London - don't know how to download pictures though)


 Quoting: Destiny 2023


oh the racism...

it's irrelevant these muslims were praying on the street during the ramadan ok and they had no building to pray in at this time near their work.

ramadan is a huge celebration and very serious, you must stop what you are doing at the moment to pray many times/day ok.

seriously ireland you should look outside of your country more often and not only with your computer or tv.

yeah they are praying on the street and singing to thx the virgo, Mary, and it's just for ONE DAY that our country permit this because we recognize the right to everybody to have a different religion and to celebrate some peculiar feast on public.

go educate yourself about us now book
 Quoting: Monbazillac


BULLSHIT. Don't tell me to educate myself about the UK you arrogant little French (muslim?) creep. I'm a Londoner. This wasn't just ONE DAY! and for your information this is what now happens in London (and this is a normal day not a muslim feast day):

"The Mecca of the City: in a London street the faithful find a way to pray when their mosque overflows:

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]
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Shut the fuck up, you degenerate Netherlandtard.
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Shut the fuck up, you degenerate Netherlandtard.
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He a muzztard commutard
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Shut the fuck up, you degenerate Netherlandtard.
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it's strange that the religious amongst people are often the most violent.
You don't hear non religious people attacking/swearing much...just look at those last 2 posts.
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So Christian prayers said for a couple of minutes before a meeting in a Christian country's banned, but things like this are okay? (Could only find youtubes of France, but I have pictures of the same in London - don't know how to download pictures though)


 Quoting: Destiny 2023


oh the racism...

it's irrelevant these muslims were praying on the street during the ramadan ok and they had no building to pray in at this time near their work.

ramadan is a huge celebration and very serious, you must stop what you are doing at the moment to pray many times/day ok.

seriously ireland you should look outside of your country more often and not only with your computer or tv.

yeah they are praying on the street and singing to thx the virgo, Mary, and it's just for ONE DAY that our country permit this because we recognize the right to everybody to have a different religion and to celebrate some peculiar feast on public.

go educate yourself about us now book
 Quoting: Monbazillac


BULLSHIT. Don't tell me to educate myself about the UK you arrogant little French (muslim?) creep. I'm a Londoner. This wasn't just ONE DAY! and for your information this is what now happens in London (and this is a normal day not a muslim feast day):

"The Mecca of the City: in a London street the faithful find a way to pray when their mosque overflows:

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10550138


oh the BIG BAD RACIST!!!!

go back to your tiny island you perfide albion, you are a real shame for your people and no i'm not muslim, it would be to simple amirite?

i'm educated and a good human being not like you, jealous too much hum coffee4
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Religion is a private issue. Doesn't belong in public places.
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Shut the fuck up, you degenerate Netherlandtard.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1302349


it's strange that the religious amongst people are often the most violent.
You don't hear non religious people attacking/swearing much...just look at those last 2 posts.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10489145


I agree keep religion to yourself.
100%.
But this is NOT happening.
And this is not what this is about, its about appeasing islamics.
So this just makes more fighting.
Because the muslims will still pray outside the council meeting.
And the Gaia Earth worshipp pagans will still chain themselves to a tree outside.
But if Christian get together and pray outside they will probably be arrested.
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Religion is a private issue. Doesn't belong in public places.
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Shut the fuck up, you degenerate Netherlandtard.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1302349


it's strange that the religious amongst people are often the most violent.
You don't hear non religious people attacking/swearing much...just look at those last 2 posts.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10489145


I agree keep religion to yourself.
100%.
But this is NOT happening.
And this is not what this is about, its about appeasing islamics.
So this just makes more fighting.
Because the muslims will still pray outside the council meeting.
And the Gaia Earth worshipp pagans will still chain themselves to a tree outside.
But if Christian get together and pray outside they will probably be arrested.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9922887


oh I agree with you on TPTB agenda and your post above...don't get me wrong, I just don't like any religion in its extremist forms.
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Shut the fuck up, you degenerate Netherlandtard.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1302349


it's strange that the religious amongst people are often the most violent.
You don't hear non religious people attacking/swearing much...just look at those last 2 posts.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10489145


I agree keep religion to yourself.
100%.
But this is NOT happening.
And this is not what this is about, its about appeasing islamics.
So this just makes more fighting.
Because the muslims will still pray outside the council meeting.
And the Gaia Earth worshipp pagans will still chain themselves to a tree outside.
But if Christian get together and pray outside they will probably be arrested.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9922887


oh I agree with you on TPTB agenda and your post above...don't get me wrong, I just don't like any religion in its extremist forms.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10489145


Me either, I think faith should be internal thing, not external.
But the reality is, Christians are being pushed aside for the communist sided Islam.
And its the leftist Marxists who are enabling this.
Because they identify with the Muslims more because their religion is mostly pagan.
Which the leftists are pagans who worship the Earth as their God.
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GOOD its about time religion was got rid of utter waist of time and the single most dangerous manipulative and destructive tool the world has ever seen counsel meetings hav a time limit just as governmental debates waising time with religious bulshit has no place in society today
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GOOD its about time religion was got rid of utter waist of time and the single most dangerous manipulative and destructive tool the world has ever seen counsel meetings hav a time limit just as governmental debates waising time with religious bulshit has no place in society today
 Quoting: xxx 9882757


Ok but what do you suggest we replace it with?
Because you do realize Atheism is a religion right?
And so is environmentalism?
They are only ever going to replace one with another you realize right?
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GOOD its about time religion was got rid of utter waist of time and the single most dangerous manipulative and destructive tool the world has ever seen counsel meetings hav a time limit just as governmental debates waising time with religious bulshit has no place in society today
 Quoting: xxx 9882757


Think of North Korea, total Marxist state.
They worship the dear leader like a God.
That also is a religion.
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it's strange that the religious amongst people are often the most violent.
You don't hear non religious people attacking/swearing much...just look at those last 2 posts.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10489145


I agree keep religion to yourself.
100%.
But this is NOT happening.
And this is not what this is about, its about appeasing islamics.
So this just makes more fighting.
Because the muslims will still pray outside the council meeting.
And the Gaia Earth worshipp pagans will still chain themselves to a tree outside.
But if Christian get together and pray outside they will probably be arrested.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9922887


oh I agree with you on TPTB agenda and your post above...don't get me wrong, I just don't like any religion in its extremist forms.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10489145


Me either, I think faith should be internal thing, not external.
But the reality is, Christians are being pushed aside for the communist sided Islam.
And its the leftist Marxists who are enabling this.
Because they identify with the Muslims more because their religion is mostly pagan.
Which the leftists are pagans who worship the Earth as their God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9922887


agreed....I think, based on what I have read & if that was true....there is obviously an agenda, there is ALWAYS an agenda....let's just hope agenda 21 isn't real....
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GOOD its about time religion was got rid of utter waist of time and the single most dangerous manipulative and destructive tool the world has ever seen counsel meetings hav a time limit just as governmental debates waising time with religious bulshit has no place in society today
 Quoting: xxx 9882757


Ok but what do you suggest we replace it with?
Because you do realize Atheism is a religion right?
And so is environmentalism?
They are only ever going to replace one with another you realize right?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9922887


no religion is not believing in any religion simple no manipulation no control atheist has nothing to do with it thats just religious morons trying to lable a non religious tharfor non manipulable person .u say replace it er no i say get rid of all religions belief in god should be termed a psychotic disorder u no belief in something that dusent exist
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Next.

“At the House of Lords, we began with prayers this morning. Prayers were said by a considerable amount of peers. I don’t think you will find anyone in the House of Lords who will seriously suggest we should end that practice.”
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So Christian prayers said for a couple of minutes before a meeting in a Christian country's banned, but things like this are okay? (Could only find youtubes of France, but I have pictures of the same in London - don't know how to download pictures though)


 Quoting: Destiny 2023


oh the racism...

it's irrelevant these muslims were praying on the street during the ramadan ok and they had no building to pray in at this time near their work.

ramadan is a huge celebration and very serious, you must stop what you are doing at the moment to pray many times/day ok.

seriously ireland you should look outside of your country more often and not only with your computer or tv.

yeah they are praying on the street and singing to thx the virgo, Mary, and it's just for ONE DAY that our country permit this because we recognize the right to everybody to have a different religion and to celebrate some peculiar feast on public.

go educate yourself about us now book
 Quoting: Monbazillac


BULLSHIT. Don't tell me to educate myself about the UK you arrogant little French (muslim?) creep. I'm a Londoner. This wasn't just ONE DAY! and for your information this is what now happens in London (and this is a normal day not a muslim feast day):

"The Mecca of the City: in a London street the faithful find a way to pray when their mosque overflows:

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10550138


oh the BIG BAD RACIST!!!!

go back to your tiny island you perfide albion, you are a real shame for your people and no i'm not muslim, it would be to simple amirite?

i'm educated and a good human being not like you, jealous too much hum coffee4
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"you perfide albion - it would be to simple amirite - i'm educated"

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