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The Physical Appearance of Jesus - Eyewitness accounts (non-biblical) from those who actually saw Him

 
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and this thread shows very clearly why I'm not a CHristian anymore. All the so called "Christians" on this thread arguing and being crappy and snarky to one another because they can't agree on what Jesus freakin LOOKED LIKE. Christians can't agree on ANYTHING...that's why there's over 700 denominations and offshoots. Everybody interprets the bible differently and (of course) each group says that THEY alone have the REAL truth and everybody else is wrong....and they all quote the same freakin verses.

All of you Christians in this thread should be ashamed of yourselves. Being nasty to each other over something as unimportant as what Jesus looked like. Who freakin cares?

I personally don't even believe he existed as a real person, but was a spiritual presence. Many early Christians believed this as well. But that all ended after the Council of Nicea and the Romans hijacked Christianity and formed the Catholic Church. After that, you either believed what their doctrines said, or you were killed or exiled.

How about THIS scripture? "Let no corrupt communication come out of your mouth, but only what is beneficial to build others up" and "Speak the truth in love".

I see no building others up or love evident.
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take it easy. subjects regarding Jesus can get heated because of people's passion for the word. that doesn't make it right. if you go back and read the thread, you will see several of us emphasizing that Jesus' appearance is not the important thing, but that He is real and people accounted for witnessing Him.

it does not matter WHAT he looked like. it just matters that people looked upon Him.
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The flesh profits no one my words are spirit and they are life...


Seems to have gone over the heads of some people.
Knowing the evils of soul, that is understanding.

Departing from the soul's evil, that is wisdom.
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Isaiah 53:2
For he grew up before him like a young plant, and like a root out of dry ground; he had no form or majesty that we should look at him, and no beauty
that we should desire him.

Do a google search on the real meaning of Isaiah 53:2 and you will discover that this verse is not about his appearance.This verse bothered
me for years because of the contradiction to the accounts written
about his appearance . He was/is beautiful in appearance.
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Interesting:

and when we shall see him, [there is] no beauty (4758) that we should desire him...



4758:
phenomenon, spectacle, appearance
[link to www.blueletterbible.org]




Nothing 'out of the ordinary'...




:)
 Quoting: Daniel's Seventieth Seven 1071051


If Isaiah 53 is describing Jesus, the words "form" or "comeliness" are a rough translation. These words mean "royal" or "kingly pomp". Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I know personally that i have witnessed many beautiful people because of the beauty of their heart/spirit, but were not necessarily attractive on the outer shell.
See the amplified verse:


Amplified Bible (AMP)
Isaiah 53
1WHO HAS believed (trusted in, relied upon, and clung to) our message [of that which was revealed to us]? And to whom has the arm of the Lord been disclosed?

2For [the Servant of God] grew up before Him like a tender plant, and like a root out of dry ground; He has no form or comeliness [royal, kingly pomp], that we should look at Him, and no phenomenon that we should desire Him.

3He was despised and rejected and forsaken by men, a Man of sorrows and pains, and acquainted with grief and sickness; and like One from Whom men hide their faces He was despised, and we did not appreciate His worth or have any esteem for Him.
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And not necessarily "unattractive" either...

It seems that we are in agreement.





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oops...

[phenomenon]


was supposed to be in brackets.

no offense intended.



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Very interesting thread!
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Very interesting thread!
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hf thanks
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It's nice that he was fair, but his appearance shouldn't matter in the least.
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OP, so here we have two accounts of Jesus outside of the bible?

and if I understand correctly one of them is questionable and the other is fraudulent?


I was sort of hoping to read more accounts of this man Jesus outside the bible.

I questioned the authenticity of the bible and came to my own conclusion with it, now at this point I question the exsistance of Jesus.

the evidence here is not encouraging, is there more somewhere or are these two all there is?

thanks
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OP, so here we have two accounts of Jesus outside of the bible?

and if I understand correctly one of them is questionable and the other is fraudulent?


I was sort of hoping to read more accounts of this man Jesus outside the bible.

I questioned the authenticity of the bible and came to my own conclusion with it, now at this point I question the exsistance of Jesus.

the evidence here is not encouraging, is there more somewhere or are these two all there is?

thanks
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the thing is this, there are the gospels, and others from the time period who have seen and heard Jesus. most reject every account for obvious reasons. there are tons of witness accounts and writings of his existence. but, if a person is going to reject them all, then they feel empty at the end of that discourse.

there is also a radical power in play to cloud the truth. our adversary is in high-gear doing all he can to cloud the truth and bring opposition.

the bottom line is that our adversary does not want people knowing the truth. there are major forces involved to discount every shred of truth that comes our way.
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What a load of nonsense! There are esteemed theologians who tell us these are documents dont exist and at best are terribly translated and misenterpreted. However some people will always belive anything regarding their religion.
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What a load of nonsense! There are esteemed theologians who tell us these are documents dont exist and at best are terribly translated and misenterpreted. However some people will always belive anything regarding their religion.
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And some people will believe anything period, like believing that this is "a load of nonsense."

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You people believe anything a government tells you ... funny
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I love you Jesus thank you op hf You can see from the shroud that He was great, beautiful in spirit and body yet His form was gentle and filled with perfect love and compassion for all.
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I love you Jesus thank you op hf You can see from the shroud that He was great, beautiful in spirit and body yet His form was gentle and filled with perfect love and compassion for all.
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amen...
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You people believe anything a government tells you ... funny
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That would be - you.

Caveman is fiction.
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Jesus is a platinum blonde long haired man with blue eyes and olive skin.

I see him in the mirror every day.

Hard not to notice what the White Horse looks like.
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First off, Hi Salt!
second, have you by chance studied more on the validity of these letters?
mind you im not debunking, nor am i posting to debunk.
I have friends on other forums that say the Gene strain from the Nepilim is dominate in the blonde hair blue eyed person, this site is called, Time No Longer, its a very, very, interesting forum i think you would enjoy as i know you are familiar with Apocrapha text.
God Bless You Sister,
TYVM for this thread!
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First off, Hi Salt!
second, have you by chance studied more on the validity of these letters?
mind you im not debunking, nor am i posting to debunk.
I have friends on other forums that say the Gene strain from the Nepilim is dominate in the blonde hair blue eyed person, this site is called, Time No Longer, its a very, very, interesting forum i think you would enjoy as i know you are familiar with Apocrapha text.
God Bless You Sister,
TYVM for this thread!
 Quoting: Krime 15335079


Jesus didn't have blonde hair and blue eyes. He had chestnut brown hair and gray eyes. very typical for a Nazarene of his time.

the validity of the letters stands firm. there are some out there that want to say they are false, but the documents are real. now, that doesn't mean that what the writers of the documents said was accurate. but, i tend to think the simply wrote what they saw.
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Jesus didn't have blonde hair and blue eyes. He had chestnut brown hair and gray eyes. very typical for a Nazarene of his time.

the validity of the letters stands firm. there are some out there that want to say they are false, but the documents are real. now, that doesn't mean that what the writers of the documents said was accurate. but, i tend to think the simply wrote what they saw.
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^^THIS^^ - plus there are different ways of being "accurate" depending on context and usage of the document.
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Isaiah 53:2
For he grew up before him like a young plant, and like a root out of dry ground; he had no form or majesty that we should look at him, and no beauty that we should desire him.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10516957


right here as described in the bible [link to www.beforebc.de]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6966312



clappa
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Jesus didn't have blonde hair and blue eyes. He had chestnut brown hair and gray eyes. very typical for a Nazarene of his time.

the validity of the letters stands firm. there are some out there that want to say they are false, but the documents are real. now, that doesn't mean that what the writers of the documents said was accurate. but, i tend to think the simply wrote what they saw.
 Quoting: Salt


^^THIS^^ - plus there are different ways of being "accurate" depending on context and usage of the document.
 Quoting: Life and Love


and in his new body, he continues with blue grey eyes and light chestnut hair, that dirty blond/reddish/brownish color.
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OP, so here we have two accounts of Jesus outside of the bible?

and if I understand correctly one of them is questionable and the other is fraudulent?


I was sort of hoping to read more accounts of this man Jesus outside the bible.

I questioned the authenticity of the bible and came to my own conclusion with it, now at this point I question the exsistance of Jesus.

the evidence here is not encouraging, is there more somewhere or are these two all there is?

thanks
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Jesus existed and is returned. I would suggest you read these documents, left behind in the first grave, which were written by Judas his best friend and who was never the betrayer, he was framed.

[link to tweeofmeer.webs.com] Written by Jesus and Judas in modern times, with Judas himself translating his own aramaic writings.

And [link to fourwinds10.com] the english translation of the Germain translation of the Aramaic of those papers.
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Isaiah 53:2
For he grew up before him like a young plant, and like a root out of dry ground; he had no form or majesty that we should look at him, and no beauty that we should desire him.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10516957


right here as described in the bible [link to www.beforebc.de]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6966312



clappa
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beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
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JESUS CHRIST is beautiful, no matter the color of his hair or eyes, or skin, it is HIS heart that makes him Beautiful!
If you break my wings, I will just find a cloud and learn to fly again. The Lord will catch you when you fall or teach you to fly! May the footprints I leave lead you to BELIEVE.
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amazing. *****!!!
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JESUS CHRIST is beautiful, no matter the color of his hair or eyes, or skin, it is HIS heart that makes him Beautiful!
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hf
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JESUS CHRIST is beautiful, no matter the color of his hair or eyes, or skin, it is HIS heart that makes him Beautiful!
 Quoting: sandpiper


hf
 Quoting: Salt


There is valuable information surfacing about the fallen ones having Blue eyes, white skin, and Hair of pure Gold. Don't be fooled by Samael the deceiver...Yahusha Ha Mashayah has and always will be as the first natural people, with the strongest genetics on Eridu(Earth). Whom are all Deeply melanated concerning the flesh. Please don't fall for this game Yaldaboath aka Satan aka Samael is playing. He created your people whom are Caucasian, but do not let him deny you what Creator has allowed you to gain out of mercy. Because, the choice was not yours in the matter. But, Even so your destiny choice of Eden, or Edom is yours...
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Dat rathis.


Jesus was black already proved.No need to put false info here.
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You are BOTH wrong & a RACIST
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[link to www.thenazareneway.com]

The Description of Publius Lentullus

The following was taken from a manuscript in the possession of Lord Kelly, and in his library, and was copied from an original letter of Publius Lentullus at Rome. It being the usual custom of Roman Governors to advertise the Senate and people of such material things as happened in their provinces in the days of Tiberius Caesar, Publius Lentullus, President of Judea, wrote the following epistle to the Senate concerning the Nazarene called Jesus.

"There appeared in these our days a man, of the Jewish Nation, of great virtue, named Yeshua [Jesus], who is yet living among us, and of the Gentiles is accepted for a Prophet of truth, but His own disciples call Him the Son of God- He raiseth the dead and cureth all manner of diseases. A man of stature somewhat tall, and comely, with very reverent countenance, such as the beholders may both love and fear, his hair of (the colour of) the chestnut, full ripe, plain to His ears, whence downwards it is more orient and curling and wavering about His shoulders. In the midst of His head is a seam or partition in His hair, after the manner of the Nazarenes. His forehead plain and very delicate; His face without spot or wrinkle, beautified with a lovely red; His nose and mouth so formed as nothing can be reprehended; His beard thickish, in colour like His hair, not very long, but forked; His look innocent and mature; His eyes grey, clear, and quick- In reproving hypocrisy He is terrible; in admonishing, courteous and fair spoken; pleasant in conversation, mixed with gravity. It cannot be remembered that any have seen Him Laugh, but many have seen Him Weep. In proportion of body, most excellent; His hands and arms delicate to behold. In speaking, very temperate, modest, and wise. A man, for His singular beauty, surpassing the children of men"


The letter from Pontius Pilate to Tiberius Caesar

This is a reprinting of a letter from Pontius Pilate to Tiberius Caesar describing the physical appearance of Jesus. Copies are in the Congressional Library in Washington, D.C.

TO TIBERIUS CAESAR:

A young man appeared in Galilee preaching with humble unction, a new law in the Name of the God that had sent Him. At first I was apprehensive that His design was to stir up the people against the Romans, but my fears were soon dispelled. Jesus of Nazareth spoke rather as a friend of the Romans than of the jewish people. One day I observed in the midst of a group of people a young man who was leaning against a tree, calmly addressing the multitude. I was told it was Jesus. This I could easily have suspected so great was the difference between Him and those who were listening to Him. His golden colored hair and beard gave to his appearance a celestial aspect. He appeared to be about 30 years of age. Never have I seen a sweeter or more serene countenance. What a contrast between Him and His bearers with their black beards and tawny complexions! Unwilling to interrupt Him by my presence, I continued my walk but signified to my secretary to join the group and listen. Later, my secretary reported that never had he seen in the works of all the philosophers anything that compared to the teachings of Jesus. He told me that Jesus was neither seditious nor rebellious, so we extended to Him our protection. He was at liberty to act, to speak, to assemble and to address the people. This unlimited freedom provoked the jewish people -- not the poor but the rich and powerful.

Later, I wrote to Jesus requesting an interview with Him at the Praetorium. He came. When the Nazarene made His appearance I was having my morning walk and as I faced Him my feet seemed fastened with an iron hand to the marble pavement and I trembled in every limb as a guilty culprit, though he was calm. For some time I stood admiring this extraordinary Man. There was nothing in Him that was repelling, nor in His character, yet I felt awed in His presence. I told Him that there was a magnetic simplicity about Him and His personality that elevated Him far above the philosophers and teachers of His day.

Now, Noble Sovereign, these are the facts concerning Jesus of Nazareth and I have taken the time to write you in detail concerning these matters. I say that such a man who could convert water into wine, change death into life, disease into health; calm the stormy seas, is not guilty of any criminal offense and as others have said, we must agree -- truly this is the Son of God.

Your most obedient servant,
Pontius Pilate


"The Archko Volume"

Another description of Jesus is found in "The Archko Volume" which contains official court documents from the days of Jesus. This information substantiates that He came from racial lines which had blue eyes and golden hair. In a chapter entitled "Gamaliel's Interview" it states concerning Jesus (Yeshua) appearance:


"I asked him to describe this person to me, so that I might know him if I should meet him. He said: 'If you ever meet him [Yeshua] you will know him. While he is nothing but a man, there is something about him that distinguishes him from every other man. He is the picture of his mother, only he has not her smooth, round face. His hair is a little more golden than hers, though it is as much from sunburn as anything else. He is tall, and his shoulders are a little drooped; his visage is thin and of a swarthy complexion, though this is from exposure. His eyes are large and a soft blue, and rather dull and heavy....' This jewish [Nazarite] is convinced that he is the Messiah of the world. ...this was the same person that was born of the virgin in Bethlehem some twenty-six years before..."

:Nazarene:
 Quoting: Salt


This reveling of Jesus is right on tee. I love him as he is my older Brother and so much more. He is the first of the last on this planet...You guys will soon be shocked as to who is now on this planet..justmeoneofmany 7th son of absolute and 7th son of the 7th planet

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