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The Physical Appearance of Jesus - Eyewitness accounts (non-biblical) from those who actually saw Him

 
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this is what your thread has generated, Salt. LOL!!!


thanks op ive been lookong into this to after so mang black jeebus lol
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"I Remember Isha"
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He looked like this:

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1. For an excellent portrait of Him, go to
[link to artakiane.com]
Look at "Age 8, second picture".
That's almost exactly what Isha looked like! She certainly got the eyes correct. His eyes would change color depending upon his mood. His mouth was fuller and more sensuous, but the hair color is correct. Sometimes after a lot of sun it became redder. His hair was a bit longer and His neck very muscular. This guy was over 6 feet tall, maybe 6'5", athletic build, nothing like the wimp He's portrayed as being. This was back when most people were fairly small.
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From "I Remember Isha":
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THE MORNING

It was early morning in Jerusalem. I had lived with Auntie and Isha for a month or more in our little house outside of a village north of the Holy City. We had come for the Spring Festival and gathering of the families. As was our custom on our few visits to the City, we stayed with Auntie Sara and Uncle Solomon, who lived in a lovely home on a southeast hill above the market area.

Earlier that morning, after bathing and putting on a long brown dress, I had wanted to twitch and squirm in protest while Auntie combed my dark brown hair. She braided and fastened it on top of my head with blue ribbon matching the trim on my new dress. Then She sent me out to the terrace to wait, telling me to stay out of the dust, not to play with my lizards and bugs, and to stay perfectly clean. This flagstone terrace overlooked the city from the northwest side of the house. Defining its edge by a two-foot rise from the flagstones, a high rock wall on its other side rose above a tall and dense thicket covering the hillside below. Waiting while the household prepared to go down to the Spring Festival, I sat on that wall facing the stone house, lazily watching my brown toes wiggle in the pale dawn light.

Isha came out of the door. He also had recently bathed, and was wearing a simple white wrap. Over six feet tall, he was big well-muscled man with long red-brown hair. He radiated immense positive masculine charisma and energy. Formally greeting me, He said, “Little Desert Flower, how you glow this beautiful morning!" Expressing true affection, His musical deep voice made me feel wonderful. I ran to Him, and, as I jumped, He lifted me with strong hands. I happily put my arms around His thick muscular neck as we hugged each other. He smelled nice, and His full soft beard, which I remembered pulling at in younger years, tickled my forehead and cheeks. With my face buried in His neck, I snuggled against His furry chest for a peaceful moment.

Then, abruptly rising to lift my head, I stared close-up into His eyes, my nose and forehead almost touching His, as only a small child can do. Not at all bothered, His eyes looked at me with amusement. He smiled with finely shaped full lips, showing brilliant, even teeth. His eyes had always fascinated and hypnotized me; anyone, looking at those deep hazel eyes, became almost immediately hypnotized, lost in the contemplation of eternity. When I was younger, I had often stared into them, watching them change color with His thoughts. Sometimes they were violet, sometimes green, and more rarely, almost brown.(1)

As I had done as a baby so many times in the past, I clutched the back of His thick, soft wavy hair with my right hand. Half turning, I looked out over the city with Him. Time stopped. In the early morning quiet, a few bees buzzed sleepily about. Whiffs of heavy fragrance rose from the blossoms on the hillside below us—lush flowers of red, white and pink, accented with splashes of purple-blue and pale yellow. One of my little insect friends crawled along the top of the rock wall, stopping at small obstacles to wave his antennae in puzzlement.

From the immense security of the arms of my beloved Isha, I viewed the world. The clear air seemed to magnify. Behind us a golden pink sunrise glowed, reflecting baked clay white-gold against dark gray shadows in the buildings of the city below. To the northwest, a luminescent aquamarine-blue filled the sky above a white gleam outlining low purple-gray hills. On the north hill across the streets of the city below, we could see the huge slightly curved roof of the temple shining multi-colored gold in the sunlight.

I felt a serene calmness and sensed a vast silent power as if at the beginning of time. He and I did not speak as we enjoyed the quiet morning together. Isha began a meditation, and I with Him; I could be in His mind when He allowed it—we had always had that kind of relationship. Isha visualized His work to be done in that city, that day and all the days to follow, up to our present time. He saw it all and accepted it. He had not yet begun His teaching, and this day in the temple He was to begin. This moment in eternity was so powerful because it was the blueprint for the Christian era and was the last meditation He had as Isha before He took on the mantle of the Christ. Framed in my mind like a picture, I remember it clearly now, nearly two thousand years later.
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look, to all the Jesus haters, please refrain from leaving comments on this thread.

i know you want to rush in here and try and make my thread look false and fraudulent.

please make sure you do your own homework on the subject before you come running in here with your negativity.

there will always be somebody out there questioning the validity of a document when they want to show that a person did NOT exist.
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I don't understand why some people go into a frenzy and can't hold back their BS flags when someone on this forum talks about Jesus or religion.

It's so simple to bypass any material that you don't believe or have an interest in. Instead of bashing people's beliefs just exit thread and save everyone the aggravation.
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word.
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get on with the thread? Did you not read the title of the thread? "THE PHYSICAL APPEARANCE OF JESUS." Where ya been? The thread has been getting on since its onset. As of late, OP has been debunked by quite a few.



I believe jesus is real, and would like to hear more of what Salt has to say on this subject. Now if we could only get on with the thread.....
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why is his skin color more important to you than his existence and that people (non-biblical people) described what they saw?

rejoice that He impacted the lives of Romans who were pagans of the time.

Jesus was from Judea. He was a Nazarene. If we are going to subscribe any RACE to him, it was middle eastern.

get a grip or i'm tossing you out. you are hijacking my thread and i grow weary of it.
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There are no genuine, "eye witness" accounts of Jesus, any more or less than there are genuine, "eye witness" accounts of those who claim to be abducted by aliens. Not saying either one exists or not, but there is no real proof. None. It is what it is............

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From "I Remember Isha"
by lorae Ireland
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THE FIRST WORDS AT THE TEMPLE

In the temple courtyard after the ceremony, Isha sat on a low rock wall, now wearing his beautiful, almost ankle-length cloak of pure white linen. He began to speak in a strange high-timbered voice, not normal for him: “My brothers, this is a fine festival and a beautiful holy day, as are all days of the Lord. Holy, Holy, Holy is His Name."

Rapidly striding by, a tall young rabbinical student stopped short and turned around. He wore a vertically striped wool coat, worn and faded and barely covering his thin knees. A pointed nose led his narrow pimpled face, and he had frizzy tufts of reddish blonde hair as nervous as himself. In a high, sharp and querulous voice, he loudly asked, “What did you say? What does this mean?"

Isha answered, “I mean that God is in His holy temple within man and without. His grace and His kindness are within all things and all His people, for this is Holiness."

Quietly sitting on the wall next to Isha, a handsome dark-haired man, my Grandpa Joseph (Joseph of Arimathaea) appeared to be intently interested in this moment. Although middle-aged, he looked younger. His dignified muscular body was dressed in silks of bright colors. A trimmed dark brown beard framed his full mouth and prominent nose beneath a sun-tanned high forehead. As if on cue, he leaned toward Isha and sighed in a flowing deep voice, showing straight white teeth, “My brother, you speak as one who knows. Tell me on what authority you say these words."

Isha said, “I and My Father are one. I speak, and He speaks according to His Will through my lips. I do not control God. God controls me. This is a Holy Alliance. I speak to you as an interpreter and spokesman for our Father, for He wishes to speak to His children on this holy day of our nation of Israel, and you are to know from His Words who you are and how beloved you are to Him.

Because you are His children, you live in a state of grace. Understand that everything you think and do is holy. We are within God, and we, oh beautiful brothers and sisters, are a manifestation of God. The ground we walk on is holy. The air we breathe is holy. The water we drink is holy. The food we eat is holy. Even our bodily wastes are holy. All the world surrounding us is holy.

“Listen to the birds in the morning, for they are God’s spirit speaking to you. Listen. Listen. Be still and listen, for God is in His heaven, which is all about us, and all is holy.

“Peace be with you, and joy be ever unfolding in your hearts and in the heavens about you. God’s love be with you. AMEN"


Isha got up and walked away. Only the priests were allowed to speak so, and three old men sitting in a row on the wall like a carving in bas-relief shook their long beards and gray heads as they stared after Him in shock.
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There are no genuine, "eye witness" accounts of Jesus, any more or less than there are genuine, "eye witness" accounts of those who claim to be abducted by aliens. Not saying either one exists or not, but there is no real proof. None. It is what it is............
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You're quite right. But many who knew Him then remember. When they read my book, they cry.

(And I did NOT want to write it. Threw a real hissy fit.
But was told, "You promised". Ah, that...)
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get on with the thread? Did you not read the title of the thread? "THE PHYSICAL APPEARANCE OF JESUS." Where ya been? The thread has been getting on since its onset. As of late, OP has been debunked by quite a few.



I believe jesus is real, and would like to hear more of what Salt has to say on this subject. Now if we could only get on with the thread.....
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why is his skin color more important to you than his existence and that people (non-biblical people) described what they saw?

rejoice that He impacted the lives of Romans who were pagans of the time.

Jesus was from Judea. He was a Nazarene. If we are going to subscribe any RACE to him, it was middle eastern.

get a grip or i'm tossing you out. you are hijacking my thread and i grow weary of it.
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There was no town named "Nazareth". But one of the Essene sects had such a name.
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I doubt it would be possible to subtract the spiritual radiance from the physical appearance of Jesus. And if you think about it, it's that spiritual radiance which would have made him beautiful no matter what physical form accompanied it.

Even thinking about his spirtual radiance brings it into a certain level of inner experience, if you just wait a moment. Imagine your best guess at his physical form, and then think of that spiritual radiance suffusing it and shining gently from him as you gaze at him, and as he gazes back at you with eyes of pure peace.

Feel that?

That's Jesus.
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IT WOULD APPEAR THAT THEY DO NOT WANT US TO FIND OUT WHERE OUR PURE RH NEGATIVE BLOODLINE ANCESTORS CAME FROM.

These studies also track the Rh Negative bloodlines to a place in Europe where inbreeding occurred. These studies take us back to a place where the DARK HAIR DARK EYED RACES mingled their seed in with the BLONDE BLUE-EYED Scandinavians in places like the Iberian Peninsula, France and the British Isles.

Some scientists would have us believe that the human race started in Africa despite the fact that the oldest mummies found in recent archeological digs all over the world were of Scandinavian. Some scientists state that mankind evolve from monkeys somewhere in Africa, but cannot find the missing link between the Rhesus Monkey and human beings. This scientific opinion has always been a highly contested theory.

Most people have wondered where these Scandinavian races came from before the Ice Age. Legends and language tell us that these Scandinavians came from the Hyperborean Regions, which at one time in our not to distant past, was a warm climate that sat by the equator until the earth's shift moved the lands we now call the North and South Pole it into the arctic regions, CAUSING IT'S INHABITANTS TO MIGRATE DOWN TO GLOBAL AREAS IN THE WORLD KNOWN AS ATLANTIS, Lumeria etc.

ALL OF OUR ORIGINAL ANCESTORS ORIGINATED IN HYPERBOREA when the continents of our earth were joined together or in different locations from where they are today due to pole shifts which have happened in the past breaking up what used to be one land mass into 7 continents. History, archeology, science and legends tell us that the dark haired races bred into or with the Scandinavian races to form a variety of people groups such as the Basques, Anglo-Saxons, Scythians, and Aryans etc. The group of human beings who are positive with Rhesus Monkey DNA who have the Rh Positive blood factor, which are associated with Africa were referred to as the original Eves. The original Adams were actually associated with Indian populations through out the world and in North and South America.

Legends from India indicate that the cradle of humanity originated in the North Pole and South Pole regions. The Hindus believe that their families really descended from the lowest and most miserable of India's four castes known as the Sudras who were a servant class who were considered to be unclean and untouchable.

"The 4th group, sudra, denotes the service communities - manual and agricultural labourers, artisans, masons, etc. Although they lived on the fringes of society, the "outcastes" or "..untouchables" , the 5th group in the hierarchy, were still very much a part of mainstream society as the tasks of scavenging, cleaning up after funerals, killing or hunting animals for food, working in leather and other unclean materials, all fell to them. Mahatma Gandhi in the 1940s renamed them harijan, which when literally translated means "the people of God". http:../../. .www...anand. ..to/..india/ ..caste.html

As a matter of fact the British Royal Family also came from the lowest of the low class as did the Blue Bloods of Europe to rule Europe. These Blue Blood families are said to have stolen THE DIVINE RIGHT TO RULE the world from their Scandinavian predecessors before recorded history. The British Royals and Blue Bloods of Europe appear to be a bloodline of people with Scandinavian DNA and the DNA of a dark race who may have been the "Sea People." The Royals and "Blue Bloods" can be tracked back to the Lost Tribe of Dan and Cain in the Old Testament who are described as having had red hair and green-eyes. They are also referred to as the "Serpent Bloodline" or "Reptilian Bloodline." The Bloodline of Cain or Dan migrated into Europe from the Mediterranean Sea into Spain, France and the British Isles with the aid of the "Sea People."

Further some even say these royal "Blue Bloods," are a hybrid human reptilian bloodline with Neanderthal DNA. Science tells us that the red hair DNA did not originate with human beings but was Neanderthal DNA. If this is true, they are not the original bloodline on earth and worse than that they have demonic reptilian DNA flowing through their veins.

It would appear that the Hindus ancient history is wrapped round spiritual traditions that occurred, not in the ancient Indian subcontinent, but thousands of miles northward at the North Pole region, which ancient peoples referred to as Hyperborea, the Land of the Gods, etc!

The ancient histories of all the major nations and religions on earth mention a time when several races of mankind lived in a temperate paradise at what is now the North Pole. All ancient races referred to Hyperborea as a paradise, a "GARDEN OF EDEN," region. These legends tell us that the Scandinavian race was the original race in Hyperborea until the gods came down and started to rape and manipulate the DNA of the original Scandinavians creating hybrid races of genetically altered human beings. These evil gods began a human hybrid program in Hyperborea, which is eerily similar to what was being described in Genesis Chapter 6. This chapter in the Old Testament describes the "Fallen Angels or Watchers" who we refer to today as the Nordic Aryan Alien " Fallen Watchers." These evil fallen demonic entities came into our three-..dimensional world to rape woman and tampered with human DNA. All cultures also speak of reptilian gods who created a hybrid race of kings and queens that sat on the thrones of all ancient kingdoms that can be tracked back to ancient Sumer Babylon in Iraq.

When you read the "Scuttle Butt" on line regarding the PURE Rh Negative blood factor we find that some experts believe the PURE Rh Negative bloodline is of unknown origins. I wonder if that is simply because they do not track the origins back to Hyperborea, they only track their studies back as far as northern Europe to the area the Serpent bloodline of Can and Dan migrated into and bred with. These authors then make a MAJOR LEAP and assume that those who actually have the PURE Rh Negative blood factor came from other planets and were not a people group who originated on earth but that they are aliens or were created by aliens.

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Thanks for posting, whether its real or not, doesn't matter. I imagine Jesus being similar and the accounts given felt real to me and somehow made me feel closer to Jesus than I have ever been. My heart speaks this is truth in so many ways, whether its real or not, doesn't matter it spoke to me and that was it's purpose.
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Creating reality with breath:

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THE SECOND SPRING FESTIVAL

At the time of the second spring festival, we hiked far out into the foothills to an estate owned by my great-uncle Zebedee. At that place, the extended family had gathered around the central focus of the grounds, a deep, clear pond about one hundred feet long by fifty feet wide. Ancient trees gave dappled shade to large flat-topped rocks around the eastern edge. This pond was fed by a large underwater spring, and seemed so magical to me that I thought that even the birds in the tall old shrubs sang of wonderful secrets. From time immemorial, a story in the Holy Books had described this spring as Sacred Ground, and the family had cherished and cared for it for many generations.

Most of the families had brought tents, and the men and boys had put up a tent city of all the stripes and colors of Joseph’s coat. In such an encampment, we could almost forget our present domesticated lives and imagine that we were wild desert nomads again as in ancestral times. However, Uncle Solomon and Auntie Sara, incorrigible city dwellers that they were, chose to stay in Zebedee’s villa to the east of the spring.

Uncle Zebedee, my Grandfather Joseph’s brother, was married to my other Aunt Miriam, who was much younger than he. She was great friends with Auntie Sara, the wife of Uncle Solomon, my father’s brother. They lived in the house on the east hill in Jerusalem. Although Miriam and Sara would have liked to play the part of snobbish society ladies, they were held to good behavior by their husbands.

Zebedee, an elder of the family whom everyone looked up to to take care of things, mediated family disputes. A wise and exalted person, he was well respected in the community, and acted as judge for the family, which was to say the whole town. Above medium height, spare, erect and dignified, he had a long white beard and long, thick wavy white hair. A broad high forehead above a large hooked nose gave his face a look of authority, and his lively blue eyes missed nothing. As an All-Knowing One, an Essene title, he had planned this gathering.

I saw him briskly walking about in his bright blue robe, speaking to this group and that, gently and masterfully keeping all arrangements coordinated.

Counting the children, there were between two and three hundred people present. Almost everyone wore white or light pastels for this special festival in this sacred place. On big flat rocks near the pond, musicians sitting in the shade of a tall tree filled the morning with wispy melody. A young man played a flute and another strummed a flat instrument. Several others took turns softly playing two small drums while a beautiful young woman sang in a contralto voice.

Women bustled about preparing the feast, and we children had been told to not get under-foot. The men of the family helped too, because all were equal, even the servants, who were relatives.

This day I became four years old, and I felt quite grown up in my new light blue dress. My parents had also bought new sandals for me, but I left them in a special place in the rocks to be put on later—my bare feet loved the feel of the earth, rocks and plants. We children ran and played. We were lively but not quarrelsome, never fighting over things or hitting each other. We were sweet children, at least that day. Some of the very young children took off their new clothes and were happily splashing in a shallow end of the pond, but I felt too old to join in. I envied them.

Wandering about on the outskirts, I climbed a rocky knoll covered with wildflowers. When I looked up, I saw spirits—tall translucent beings reaching to the sky. With a start, I happened upon Grandfather Snake, self-possessed as ever and stretched out in the morning sun beneath a rock higher than my head. We stared at each other. I felt that he would have winked if he could, and I was glad he was going to be listening.

First I saw Grandfather Snake, then by peering around the huge boulders he was lying under, I spied Isha. He sat out on a flat rock wearing white and completely alone. Deep in meditation, Isha seemed to be a harmonious part of the landscape, very still and alive, like a tree. I knew not to bother Him, but I also knew that He was smiling inside at my furtive snooping.

He began to speak mid-morning, a gorgeous time in a beautiful place, surrounded by his loving, supportive family. He stood by the pool, facing the family gathered around. Affection filled the air, a happy, joyful moment in our lives, a moment of pure love. When Isha spoke, even the children were quiet—no one had to tell them to be quiet. Everyone listened.


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This is what He said:

"Gather around closely,
Oh beloved Brothers and Sisters,
For such we all are,
The children of God.

Even as we are close to one another in the joy of this moment,
We celebrate this day of festivity of spring,
Another holy beginning,
As is every day and second of our lives.

The full moon we will see rise tonight,
Will appear from behind the hill of trees,
Giving us a special light,
The light of the Father,
Sending his message of love to our souls.

A message of the purity of the heavens,
To His Children,
Who will be gathered here at this holy place,
To participate in the ceremony at the beginning
Of this new spring time,
A time of great love and glory
Which we will live in with Our Father,
Who gives us abundant and extravagant love.

This moon will send its light from the hilltop
To the pond, to deep in the pond,
To the depths of Mother Earth and back again,
Apparently reflecting from the surface
Of this water to our eyes and souls.

This new season beginning,
The springtime of this era,
Will create a memory of great wonder.
Will fill our minds and hearts with the new age to come.
An age of creativity, love and beauty,
Such as this world has not known before.

The creation of this new age
Will begin in our minds as a desire,
A desire for the peace and joy we once knew
In the home of Our Father in Heaven.

The fresh new energy of this spring life
Will fill our souls with happiness.
The soft sweet wind of Earth
Will blow gently in our faces,

The breathing and feeling of it will remind us
Of our home with Our Father;
And we will feel a sweet, sad remembrance
Of happiness long ago, a joyful anticipation
Of living life on a star,
From whence we came.

This wind comes from we know not,
And flies across the land to the sea,
A mystery to our souls.

We live here on our Mother, the Earth,
Enjoying Her loveliness;
Yet we know not from whence cometh our very bodies.
From whence cometh our lives in awareness of the infinite?

We see the shoots of green sprouting,
The buds on branches growing,
And the flowering of life in all its glory;
But from whence does all of this issue?

A sweet mystery.
The Mystery of Life.

To the mind, centered on God,
All these things we see, feel and are,
Become part of God's Holy Realm.
Think of these flowers growing,
These wise old rocks and trees about this pond.
Always here in radiant glory,
From now to the end of time.

All this is ours to have,
Surrounding us with the infinite care of Mother Earth,
Reminding us of the presence of Our Father,
And showing us the way to perfect love.

In your devotions,
The living of your very lives,
Every breath, Every thought,
Every word, Every action,
Is indeed a Prayer of Joy with the Father.

It is in the seeking that we find.
It is in the desire and effort that we find the joy of being
With the Great Unknown,
Our Father, Who Art in Heaven.

So it is that in this day in which the Glory of God
Shines forth upon this Land,
This beautiful Mother Earth of ours,
Adorned with fragrant flowers and caressed with gentle breezes,
That we gather about the cool waters of this sacred pool.

A family of love,
A chosen family of glowing light.
Children, Fathers, Mothers, Grandchildren,
Aunts, Uncles, Fathers and Kin,
We are as one.

With our feet dusted liberally
With the Blessings of Our Mother, the Earth,
With our bodies clothed and nurtured
By the gifts of this loving planet,

With much wealth in our possession which blesses us in many ways,
We are happy to be a part of Earth Life,
Gladly becoming more and more attuned
To the natural beauty of life around us, and within us.

Breathe in this glorious air
And feel great joy.
Breathe out this air
And send joy out to our world.

Herein lies a Secret:
Between the in-breath and the out-breath
Is an opportunity for the conception of our lives,
And the ages to come.

For this is a Moment,
A Sacred Moment of Creation:
A precious Moment,
In which a man, woman, or child
Can imagine what is to be,
What was and what is.

Can create the Nows of tomorrow
And all the Nows of eternity,
Today, Yesterday, and Forever.

The infilling brings vitality into the being or situation.
This energy creates a new manifestation of Life.
The breathing out is the outworking this new vitality.

Thus, our very lives are created.
Therefore, let us align ourselves with this moment of Nature's Beauty
And become One with the Creator.

As He creates the eons of time with His Breath,
So do we, His Children,
Create the Nows of our lives
With our inbreath and outbreath.

By breathing in Divine Light
From the sun and the air,
Which is one with the Winds that caress the landscape,
We feel the energy and rapture of Our Father;
The inexpressible happiness of pure existence.

With the blessings of Mother Earth on our feet,
Even on our hands and heads,
We enjoy pure insight and being,
Being one with God,
And one with His Love.

We create anew.
Thus our next outbreath is fully revitalized;
And it goes out as a blessing of God's Holiness to this world,
And to all living creatures on this world.

So it was in days of old;
The days of our fathers of Israel,
And so it shall be in the days ahead.

Re-Creation means to go out
Into life's surrounds,
And infill with its essence of beauty.

Find that new Inspiration by letting go of the old,
And then, being infilled,
Infilled with the love and glory of Our Father's world,
Which He has given to us in love.

This is a sacred process.
This is the momentum
Of God's creativity
Continuing on within us.

Create.
And Create some more.
May His Love be with you,
And His Joy ever creating again and again,
Forever and Forever.
Peace be with you.
AMEN”


Isha was in the here and now for us, affirming and teaching us that we were God's Children co-creating with God: He had reverence for the Earth and spoke of our relationship to Her many times.

Afterwards we had a delicious feast. I was a skinny, hyperactive child who ate enormous amounts of food for my size. I ecstatically tasted, then gobbled all the different dishes. Especially fascinating were the many kinds of small flat cakes, some of which were delightfully sweet. I drank an effervescent kefir-like drink, and greedily carried off round concoctions of nuts for eating later. I saw fruits set out in geometric color arrangements, expressing a reverence for the shape of the fruit and the way it looked, to enjoy it simply as it came from the Earth. I don't recall, in the years that I lived in that family, that they had any particular prohibition against eating meat. Even the Christ himself would go out with anyone and eat whatever they had, making the point that all the priestly laws regarding diet were ridiculous.

During the quiet in the middle of the day a small group of men walked off with Isha and met under a tree. I had been told to lie down for a nap, and did so near them. These men were regulars at Isha's talks in the evenings, and had a few pointed questions about the talk of the morning: Uncle Shmael asked, "And, my brother, tell me if you will, how is it that even the smallest children among us are able to know when they must sit and listen quietly?"

Isha answered, "My brother, indeed even those most directly from the far side of life know the laws, for it is no secret that the spirit of man must obey. These little ones follow, more closely than the rear feet of animals which track their forefeet in the wilds. So it is that as their elders listen, these children listen also, and their ability to absorb the higher meanings of my words would amaze you if you could but see their receptivity in full. These little ones, especially in our family, have this ability to a great degree, for they have been anointed by the Father for special work on His behalf."

Joseph (Grandpa Joseph, my father's father, Joseph of Arimathaea) said, "Tell me, my lad, where do you find the most resistance to these fresh ideas of yours? Is this family in any way your most difficult group?"

"No, not this family, but the greatest barriers are in the organized religious groups and their founders, for these have been charged with the duty of perpetuating their sect and their beliefs so that nothing changes. Without change, all are dead. Do you understand?"

Joseph answered, "Yes, but why have I taken so long to see this? And I do see much good in the old ways."

"I know there is no possible way for men to obtain or keep all truth, yet all men, especially young men, have available directly from life true union, a direct pathway to truth. In your youth as you raised questions with your elders, your questions and doubts derived from your inner communion with God. But being one who desires peace, you accepted other views and forgot your own. Remember that truth comes in pieces, flashes of intuition, and repeatedly, unless blocked out by disbelief."

Joseph said, "Thank you. I know."

Cousin Peter, a small, thoughtful younger man, asked, "Why are we here this moment and this day as we are?"

"We are here by the grace of God, by our desires to be. It is this desire to experience life which draws us into embodiment. It is this dynamic which supplies the seed, as it were, to generate into this family those whose past experiences together focus on a step--as you will--which holds for each one an opportunity to advance in beingness.

"Similarly, this day is like all other days in that it is unlike all other days. Within this dichotomy lies the import and reason for being. Thus we have the necessity to be aware of this moment in time, and, with it all rewards available at this moment, which can become obvious to us by surveying this landscape. The family upon its face listens to the murmur of peaceful voices, the rush of air sweetened by flowers and the sparkling water reflecting dynamic rays of sunshine.

"But beyond that, the inner heart of man reaches out to an infinite meadow of beauty, of perfection which knows no end, but which is just as real as it is unseen by mortal eyes. My brothers, this scene before us is but a reflection of that which exists but unseen.

"There are no ends, no fatal moments, nothing but passing effortlessly between two poles, if you like, of existence.

"Each has its purpose, each brings its music, and each has its celestial beauty."


It was easier for Him that day to teach the family than when He taught the rabbis at night, because the rabbis' minds were so cluttered with intellectualism's that sometimes a simple matter of which He was speaking here did not seem to penetrate. However, the family, for the most part, understood Him immediately, and was receptive to His words. Love filled the air, making this a wonderful experience. It was our desire that that day be perfect, and it was.

From two to four in the afternoon everyone took a nap. When the shadows were longer, we all went down to the water. Clearly mirroring the old trees, the pool reflected the late afternoon sun and tuffs of clouds in a blue sky. Softly brushing our faces with gentle kisses, the warm dry Wind-child of Spring whispered of spring blossoms and new life.

At that time, I felt that we and the world around us existed in perfect synchronization, the moment caught in a forever golden dream. Even the white lilies overhanging the pond seemed to glow of brilliant rainbow colors. As He waited to speak, our beloved Isha sat quietly by the pond. I thought, "I want this moment to last forever. I want this to last forever."

Fascinated, we children got up close to hear. From his perspective, looking at our sweet, innocent faces, He loved us so very much, wishing that the people all the time could be like these children, open and hungry for His words and so understanding. He sent us a burst of energy, surrounding us with an aura of enormous affection. I felt enveloped in an overwhelming strong white warmth, a communication of pure admiration, saying, "I like you. I think you're beautiful."

Looking expectantly at Him through bright shiny eyes, we thought He was wonderful. It was as if we were sealed off from eternity in a timeless world of powerful energy formed by the circle of love between Isha and us.

He began to speak:

"A flower like this one (He pointed.)
Grew close enough to the edge of the water
To see into it.
Flower watched the blue sky,
The white clouds,
The sun, the rain,
And the bees.

Flower felt the kindness
Of Mother Earth
Feeding with love
Its stem, its leaves and its head.

So it was that one day
A cold wind came,
And it, the flower,
Knew that the time had arrived
For seeds to be made.
These seeds blew
Across the land and the water.
One day new plants with flowers grew
From those seeds around the pond.

The new flower watched in the water
The blue sky, the white clouds,
The sun, the rain,
And Lady Bee,
Who came to enjoy the sweet honey
Which flower gave with love.

The sweetness of life
Is all around us, children,
As flowers around mothers and fathers,
All can give the sweet honey of life to one another,
And to strangers like Lady Bee.
In love, and with sweetness.

For one day, the cold wind will blow,
And seed time will come.
Little flowers, little flower seeds,
Will travel across the land and the water
To find new homes,
But always upon the beauty
Of Mother Earth.(1)

So it is that we give love to our families
And sweetness to all strangers we do not know;
For this is the law of life on Earth,
That we share the sweet home of life
With all others."



1."To find new homes, but always upon the beauty of Mother Earth," meant that this family would in later lives settle in the area now known as the United States; first as American Indians, then as white people of the nineteenth and twentieth centuries.
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Thanks for posting, whether its real or not, doesn't matter. I imagine Jesus being similar and the accounts given felt real to me and somehow made me feel closer to Jesus than I have ever been. My heart speaks this is truth in so many ways, whether its real or not, doesn't matter it spoke to me and that was it's purpose.
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yep. this is the part that i find striking:

Later, I wrote to Jesus requesting an interview with Him at the Praetorium. He came. When the Nazarene made His appearance I was having my morning walk and as I faced Him my feet seemed fastened with an iron hand to the marble pavement and I trembled in every limb as a guilty culprit, though he was calm. For some time I stood admiring this extraordinary Man.
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just got this red karma:

Go suck off jesus and die, pushy bible tard, scared little human with no understanding posting pictures of a white man with a beard that you call a god, religulous


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I just wanted to thanks everyone on this thread- this discussion has been rich and tremendously interesting.....
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I imagine Jesus to look something like this


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Quite similar to the face they recreated from the shroud itself.



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you now show your true colors. I expected that to happen. Don;t worry, i wont be posting anymore in YOUR thread. I cant stand the stench of white supremacy. Carry on. You were exposed.


IT WOULD APPEAR THAT THEY DO NOT WANT US TO FIND OUT WHERE OUR PURE RH NEGATIVE BLOODLINE ANCESTORS CAME FROM.

These studies also track the Rh Negative bloodlines to a place in Europe where inbreeding occurred. These studies take us back to a place where the DARK HAIR DARK EYED RACES mingled their seed in with the BLONDE BLUE-EYED Scandinavians in places like the Iberian Peninsula, France and the British Isles.

Some scientists would have us believe that the human race started in Africa despite the fact that the oldest mummies found in recent archeological digs all over the world were of Scandinavian. Some scientists state that mankind evolve from monkeys somewhere in Africa, but cannot find the missing link between the Rhesus Monkey and human beings. This scientific opinion has always been a highly contested theory.

Most people have wondered where these Scandinavian races came from before the Ice Age. Legends and language tell us that these Scandinavians came from the Hyperborean Regions, which at one time in our not to distant past, was a warm climate that sat by the equator until the earth's shift moved the lands we now call the North and South Pole it into the arctic regions, CAUSING IT'S INHABITANTS TO MIGRATE DOWN TO GLOBAL AREAS IN THE WORLD KNOWN AS ATLANTIS, Lumeria etc.

ALL OF OUR ORIGINAL ANCESTORS ORIGINATED IN HYPERBOREA when the continents of our earth were joined together or in different locations from where they are today due to pole shifts which have happened in the past breaking up what used to be one land mass into 7 continents. History, archeology, science and legends tell us that the dark haired races bred into or with the Scandinavian races to form a variety of people groups such as the Basques, Anglo-Saxons, Scythians, and Aryans etc. The group of human beings who are positive with Rhesus Monkey DNA who have the Rh Positive blood factor, which are associated with Africa were referred to as the original Eves. The original Adams were actually associated with Indian populations through out the world and in North and South America.

Legends from India indicate that the cradle of humanity originated in the North Pole and South Pole regions. The Hindus believe that their families really descended from the lowest and most miserable of India's four castes known as the Sudras who were a servant class who were considered to be unclean and untouchable.

"The 4th group, sudra, denotes the service communities - manual and agricultural labourers, artisans, masons, etc. Although they lived on the fringes of society, the "outcastes" or "..untouchables" , the 5th group in the hierarchy, were still very much a part of mainstream society as the tasks of scavenging, cleaning up after funerals, killing or hunting animals for food, working in leather and other unclean materials, all fell to them. Mahatma Gandhi in the 1940s renamed them harijan, which when literally translated means "the people of God". http:../../. .www...anand. ..to/..india/ ..caste.html

As a matter of fact the British Royal Family also came from the lowest of the low class as did the Blue Bloods of Europe to rule Europe. These Blue Blood families are said to have stolen THE DIVINE RIGHT TO RULE the world from their Scandinavian predecessors before recorded history. The British Royals and Blue Bloods of Europe appear to be a bloodline of people with Scandinavian DNA and the DNA of a dark race who may have been the "Sea People." The Royals and "Blue Bloods" can be tracked back to the Lost Tribe of Dan and Cain in the Old Testament who are described as having had red hair and green-eyes. They are also referred to as the "Serpent Bloodline" or "Reptilian Bloodline." The Bloodline of Cain or Dan migrated into Europe from the Mediterranean Sea into Spain, France and the British Isles with the aid of the "Sea People."

Further some even say these royal "Blue Bloods," are a hybrid human reptilian bloodline with Neanderthal DNA. Science tells us that the red hair DNA did not originate with human beings but was Neanderthal DNA. If this is true, they are not the original bloodline on earth and worse than that they have demonic reptilian DNA flowing through their veins.

It would appear that the Hindus ancient history is wrapped round spiritual traditions that occurred, not in the ancient Indian subcontinent, but thousands of miles northward at the North Pole region, which ancient peoples referred to as Hyperborea, the Land of the Gods, etc!

The ancient histories of all the major nations and religions on earth mention a time when several races of mankind lived in a temperate paradise at what is now the North Pole. All ancient races referred to Hyperborea as a paradise, a "GARDEN OF EDEN," region. These legends tell us that the Scandinavian race was the original race in Hyperborea until the gods came down and started to rape and manipulate the DNA of the original Scandinavians creating hybrid races of genetically altered human beings. These evil gods began a human hybrid program in Hyperborea, which is eerily similar to what was being described in Genesis Chapter 6. This chapter in the Old Testament describes the "Fallen Angels or Watchers" who we refer to today as the Nordic Aryan Alien " Fallen Watchers." These evil fallen demonic entities came into our three-..dimensional world to rape woman and tampered with human DNA. All cultures also speak of reptilian gods who created a hybrid race of kings and queens that sat on the thrones of all ancient kingdoms that can be tracked back to ancient Sumer Babylon in Iraq.

When you read the "Scuttle Butt" on line regarding the PURE Rh Negative blood factor we find that some experts believe the PURE Rh Negative bloodline is of unknown origins. I wonder if that is simply because they do not track the origins back to Hyperborea, they only track their studies back as far as northern Europe to the area the Serpent bloodline of Can and Dan migrated into and bred with. These authors then make a MAJOR LEAP and assume that those who actually have the PURE Rh Negative blood factor came from other planets and were not a people group who originated on earth but that they are aliens or were created by aliens.

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you now show your true colors. I expected that to happen. Don;t worry, i wont be posting anymore in YOUR thread. I cant stand the stench of white supremacy. Carry on. You were exposed.


IT WOULD APPEAR THAT THEY DO NOT WANT US TO FIND OUT WHERE OUR PURE RH NEGATIVE BLOODLINE ANCESTORS CAME FROM.

These studies also track the Rh Negative bloodlines to a place in Europe where inbreeding occurred. These studies take us back to a place where the DARK HAIR DARK EYED RACES mingled their seed in with the BLONDE BLUE-EYED Scandinavians in places like the Iberian Peninsula, France and the British Isles.

Some scientists would have us believe that the human race started in Africa despite the fact that the oldest mummies found in recent archeological digs all over the world were of Scandinavian. Some scientists state that mankind evolve from monkeys somewhere in Africa, but cannot find the missing link between the Rhesus Monkey and human beings. This scientific opinion has always been a highly contested theory.

Most people have wondered where these Scandinavian races came from before the Ice Age. Legends and language tell us that these Scandinavians came from the Hyperborean Regions, which at one time in our not to distant past, was a warm climate that sat by the equator until the earth's shift moved the lands we now call the North and South Pole it into the arctic regions, CAUSING IT'S INHABITANTS TO MIGRATE DOWN TO GLOBAL AREAS IN THE WORLD KNOWN AS ATLANTIS, Lumeria etc.

ALL OF OUR ORIGINAL ANCESTORS ORIGINATED IN HYPERBOREA when the continents of our earth were joined together or in different locations from where they are today due to pole shifts which have happened in the past breaking up what used to be one land mass into 7 continents. History, archeology, science and legends tell us that the dark haired races bred into or with the Scandinavian races to form a variety of people groups such as the Basques, Anglo-Saxons, Scythians, and Aryans etc. The group of human beings who are positive with Rhesus Monkey DNA who have the Rh Positive blood factor, which are associated with Africa were referred to as the original Eves. The original Adams were actually associated with Indian populations through out the world and in North and South America.

Legends from India indicate that the cradle of humanity originated in the North Pole and South Pole regions. The Hindus believe that their families really descended from the lowest and most miserable of India's four castes known as the Sudras who were a servant class who were considered to be unclean and untouchable.

"The 4th group, sudra, denotes the service communities - manual and agricultural labourers, artisans, masons, etc. Although they lived on the fringes of society, the "outcastes" or "..untouchables" , the 5th group in the hierarchy, were still very much a part of mainstream society as the tasks of scavenging, cleaning up after funerals, killing or hunting animals for food, working in leather and other unclean materials, all fell to them. Mahatma Gandhi in the 1940s renamed them harijan, which when literally translated means "the people of God". http:../../. .www...anand. ..to/..india/ ..caste.html

As a matter of fact the British Royal Family also came from the lowest of the low class as did the Blue Bloods of Europe to rule Europe. These Blue Blood families are said to have stolen THE DIVINE RIGHT TO RULE the world from their Scandinavian predecessors before recorded history. The British Royals and Blue Bloods of Europe appear to be a bloodline of people with Scandinavian DNA and the DNA of a dark race who may have been the "Sea People." The Royals and "Blue Bloods" can be tracked back to the Lost Tribe of Dan and Cain in the Old Testament who are described as having had red hair and green-eyes. They are also referred to as the "Serpent Bloodline" or "Reptilian Bloodline." The Bloodline of Cain or Dan migrated into Europe from the Mediterranean Sea into Spain, France and the British Isles with the aid of the "Sea People."

Further some even say these royal "Blue Bloods," are a hybrid human reptilian bloodline with Neanderthal DNA. Science tells us that the red hair DNA did not originate with human beings but was Neanderthal DNA. If this is true, they are not the original bloodline on earth and worse than that they have demonic reptilian DNA flowing through their veins.

It would appear that the Hindus ancient history is wrapped round spiritual traditions that occurred, not in the ancient Indian subcontinent, but thousands of miles northward at the North Pole region, which ancient peoples referred to as Hyperborea, the Land of the Gods, etc!

The ancient histories of all the major nations and religions on earth mention a time when several races of mankind lived in a temperate paradise at what is now the North Pole. All ancient races referred to Hyperborea as a paradise, a "GARDEN OF EDEN," region. These legends tell us that the Scandinavian race was the original race in Hyperborea until the gods came down and started to rape and manipulate the DNA of the original Scandinavians creating hybrid races of genetically altered human beings. These evil gods began a human hybrid program in Hyperborea, which is eerily similar to what was being described in Genesis Chapter 6. This chapter in the Old Testament describes the "Fallen Angels or Watchers" who we refer to today as the Nordic Aryan Alien " Fallen Watchers." These evil fallen demonic entities came into our three-..dimensional world to rape woman and tampered with human DNA. All cultures also speak of reptilian gods who created a hybrid race of kings and queens that sat on the thrones of all ancient kingdoms that can be tracked back to ancient Sumer Babylon in Iraq.

When you read the "Scuttle Butt" on line regarding the PURE Rh Negative blood factor we find that some experts believe the PURE Rh Negative bloodline is of unknown origins. I wonder if that is simply because they do not track the origins back to Hyperborea, they only track their studies back as far as northern Europe to the area the Serpent bloodline of Can and Dan migrated into and bred with. These authors then make a MAJOR LEAP and assume that those who actually have the PURE Rh Negative blood factor came from other planets and were not a people group who originated on earth but that they are aliens or were created by aliens.

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dude, i'm not scandinavian or white either.
i am mediteranean descent.

why does this mess with you so much?
lol, seriously.
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BTW good thread OP. :)
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grazie!
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The Pontius letter is real! This is one of the published books from which the first translation came! It has also had Handwriting experts verify it! It will be carbon dated in the near future! The odd thing about it is, NO ONE ever talks about it? I guess it is too powerful!?
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The Pontius letter is real! This is one of the published books from which the first translation came! It has also had Handwriting experts verify it! It will be carbon dated in the near future! The odd thing about it is, NO ONE ever talks about it? I guess it is too powerful!?
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thanks for this.

very much.

i find it interesting that most of the big publishing houses around the globe, particularly ones who publish specific types of books relating to falsifying theology in antiquity, are owned by satanic agency.
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The Description of Publius Lentullus

The following was taken from a manuscript in the possession of Lord Kelly, and in his library, and was copied from an original letter of Publius Lentullus at Rome. It being the usual custom of Roman Governors to advertise the Senate and people of such material things as happened in their provinces in the days of Tiberius Caesar, Publius Lentullus, President of Judea, wrote the following epistle to the Senate concerning the Nazarene called Jesus.

"There appeared in these our days a man, of the Jewish Nation, of great virtue, named Yeshua [Jesus], who is yet living among us, and of the Gentiles is accepted for a Prophet of truth, but His own disciples call Him the Son of God- He raiseth the dead and cureth all manner of diseases. A man of stature somewhat tall, and comely, with very reverent countenance, such as the beholders may both love and fear, his hair of (the colour of) the chestnut, full ripe, plain to His ears, whence downwards it is more orient and curling and wavering about His shoulders. In the midst of His head is a seam or partition in His hair, after the manner of the Nazarenes. His forehead plain and very delicate; His face without spot or wrinkle, beautified with a lovely red; His nose and mouth so formed as nothing can be reprehended; His beard thickish, in colour like His hair, not very long, but forked; His look innocent and mature; His eyes grey, clear, and quick- In reproving hypocrisy He is terrible; in admonishing, courteous and fair spoken; pleasant in conversation, mixed with gravity. It cannot be remembered that any have seen Him Laugh, but many have seen Him Weep. In proportion of body, most excellent; His hands and arms delicate to behold. In speaking, very temperate, modest, and wise. A man, for His singular beauty, surpassing the children of men"


The letter from Pontius Pilate to Tiberius Caesar

This is a reprinting of a letter from Pontius Pilate to Tiberius Caesar describing the physical appearance of Jesus. Copies are in the Congressional Library in Washington, D.C.

TO TIBERIUS CAESAR:

A young man appeared in Galilee preaching with humble unction, a new law in the Name of the God that had sent Him. At first I was apprehensive that His design was to stir up the people against the Romans, but my fears were soon dispelled. Jesus of Nazareth spoke rather as a friend of the Romans than of the jewish people. One day I observed in the midst of a group of people a young man who was leaning against a tree, calmly addressing the multitude. I was told it was Jesus. This I could easily have suspected so great was the difference between Him and those who were listening to Him. His golden colored hair and beard gave to his appearance a celestial aspect. He appeared to be about 30 years of age. Never have I seen a sweeter or more serene countenance. What a contrast between Him and His bearers with their black beards and tawny complexions! Unwilling to interrupt Him by my presence, I continued my walk but signified to my secretary to join the group and listen. Later, my secretary reported that never had he seen in the works of all the philosophers anything that compared to the teachings of Jesus. He told me that Jesus was neither seditious nor rebellious, so we extended to Him our protection. He was at liberty to act, to speak, to assemble and to address the people. This unlimited freedom provoked the jewish people -- not the poor but the rich and powerful.

Later, I wrote to Jesus requesting an interview with Him at the Praetorium. He came. When the Nazarene made His appearance I was having my morning walk and as I faced Him my feet seemed fastened with an iron hand to the marble pavement and I trembled in every limb as a guilty culprit, though he was calm. For some time I stood admiring this extraordinary Man. There was nothing in Him that was repelling, nor in His character, yet I felt awed in His presence. I told Him that there was a magnetic simplicity about Him and His personality that elevated Him far above the philosophers and teachers of His day.

Now, Noble Sovereign, these are the facts concerning Jesus of Nazareth and I have taken the time to write you in detail concerning these matters. I say that such a man who could convert water into wine, change death into life, disease into health; calm the stormy seas, is not guilty of any criminal offense and as others have said, we must agree -- truly this is the Son of God.

Your most obedient servant,
Pontius Pilate


"The Archko Volume"

Another description of Jesus is found in "The Archko Volume" which contains official court documents from the days of Jesus. This information substantiates that He came from racial lines which had blue eyes and golden hair. In a chapter entitled "Gamaliel's Interview" it states concerning Jesus (Yeshua) appearance:


"I asked him to describe this person to me, so that I might know him if I should meet him. He said: 'If you ever meet him [Yeshua] you will know him. While he is nothing but a man, there is something about him that distinguishes him from every other man. He is the picture of his mother, only he has not her smooth, round face. His hair is a little more golden than hers, though it is as much from sunburn as anything else. He is tall, and his shoulders are a little drooped; his visage is thin and of a swarthy complexion, though this is from exposure. His eyes are large and a soft blue, and rather dull and heavy....' This jewish [Nazarite] is convinced that he is the Messiah of the world. ...this was the same person that was born of the virgin in Bethlehem some twenty-six years before..."

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lovely thread salt..well deserved pinhf
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


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Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
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Was raised to think Jesus was white. Always thought Jesus would be cooler if he was black.

That's all.
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a spirit so beautiful manifested into a beautiful body hf
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
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a spirit so beautiful manifested into a beautiful body hf
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amen, sister
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Isaiah 53:2
For he grew up before him like a young plant, and like a root out of dry ground; he had no form or majesty that we should look at him, and no beauty that we should desire him.


If you believe in the man Jesus you should believe the prophets also.
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Now being poor and brought up poor being in the ghetto, and being white, walking alone to say the least is saying alot, learned to fight real well, basketball football, being the sports of choice having to go to all black school juniorhigh and highshool, now what ate me the most, now I'm not prejeduce,but, why would these black boys beat on a white skined albino, with all the features of being black since His parents are black just He was born that way I know some people are ignorant, but this happens all so frequent in the ghetto different mentallity
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Isaiah 53:2
For he grew up before him like a young plant, and like a root out of dry ground; he had no form or majesty that we should look at him, and no beauty that we should desire him.


If you believe in the man Jesus you should believe the prophets also.
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beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
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