What Was With That Stunt Pulled by the Democrats Yesterday?

screw you, you pig !!

Read the speech that Harry Reid made and you will understand that its NOT A STUNT...its a MOVE to get the truth out.

I am a registered republican, and I voted for Bush, but have since repented.

You don´t know what you are talking about and should go back into the hole that you crawled out of.

What happened? I mean they closed the door.

They are twisting Bush´s well used balls.

Oh, Ice Cream, open mouth, insert foot.

OP´s opinion is based upon other vapid rhetoric and "talking points" that have little basis in reality. OP´s opinion is pure Spin.


Nothing to see here, move along.

What was that stunt pulled by bush co. in March ´03?

Grandstanding......typical fucking pussies!

Ice Cream must be a ditto-head. Oxicontin Rush said basically the same shit today.

Exatly ST Patrick...

It´s all they have left...

The grandstanding came from the GOP...!!!

The Democrats are just trying to get someone to investigate this crminal regime in the White House.

Don´t you just love the spin GOP leaders put on something that they have covered up for years.

Hey Guys no WMD...they lied, they falsified documents, they outed a CIA agent out of revenge...HELLO have you been reading the news.

The crime is the GOP´s negligence in getting to the bottom of this lie that was perpetrated on the American public.

Roads are falling apart in my city because all of the money is going to an illegal war in Iraq....which by the way had nothing to do with 911

Ice Cream is trying to spin this story to place the blame away from where it´s supposed to be..

The whole criminal GOP cabal

Typical reaction that I would expect from a 10yo, If you don´t get what you want - throw a tantrum and make a scene!

OK, 75....they were lied to by the CIA and FBI about the information that Bush & Co was giving for going to war, so they voted to go after the bad guys.

Hey, any of us are capable of being conned....after 911 (another massive con job), the whole nation wanted to bring justice upon the infidels who did it...SADLY, THEY MISSED. THE REAL INFIDELS ARE IN THE WH AND CONTROL CONGRESS

The doctored intelligence came from the white house numnuts

What about the Colin Powell fiasco...and the palgiarized speech that was nothing but lies. That´s what got us into this mess

Typical republitard rhetoric...blaming this war on Clinton..

Fucking incredible the spin you guys manufacture

I am a registered republican who does not recognize his own party.

Remember Rupublicans believe in small gov´t
less intrusion in people lives.

This admin is worse than any democrat in history
biggest gov´t in US history, deficit spending, war mongering, intrusion on civil rights and freedoms. The pepublicans in office (who are not real republicans) have turned this country into something most of us don´t recognize anymore.

When will this monsense end?

It was all about this.

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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 75
11/2/2005
7:48 pm EST Re: What Was With That Stunt Pulled by the Democrats Yesterday?

Most of the democrats spouted the same war rhetoric that was being spouted by the GOP so who is fooling who here?

Want to start with a few names? What about Kerry? What about Hillary? What about the majority of the democratic party along with the conservatives. They all based their opinions on foreign intelligence and the intelligence that came from eight years of Clinton at the helm so don´t go spouting off about this lying regime. This only goes to show how hypocrytical the democrats are as they were knowingly complicit in this war.


Why not continue on that thread to the state of things as Clinton inherited them from Bush and Reagan before him?

Your statement is nullified.

go ahead ignore all of the comments above. You obviously have an agenda.

and try to blame this war on Clinton.

you´ve got a lot of nerve.

Simply the grandstanding came from the GOP (Frist making such a big deal out something that has not been done.

A crime perpetrated against the American People

This was no stunt by the democratic party

George Herbert Walker Bush PAID the Shah of Iran to hold those hostages until he snaked his wicked ass into the WH. Research it and educate yourself.

REMEMBERING AND ANTICIPATING

Gordon Graham
THE SHAPE OF THE PAST: A Philosophical Approach to History
Oxford University Press, Oxford/New York, 1997

Irving Singer
THE CREATION OF VALUE: Volume One of Meaning in Life
Johns Hopkins University Press, Baltimore, 1996

Historical Philosophy

"Those who do not remember history, are condemned to repeat it." So claimed philosopher George Santayna. But is this true, and how would we know? That is the task that Gordon Graham has set to explain. When we pose the "big questions" about history, we are taking a philosophical approach. If we simply chronicle particular lives or events, our story is idiosyncratic. That´s fine, but there is a certain variety of history that postulates such trends as progress, regress, collapse, or recurrence. These themes can only properly be invoked if they are philosophically informed and methodologically rigorous, or so Graham contends.
Graham´s first two chapters set the argument for a philosophical approach to history. He explores what counts as history, what counts as philosophy, and where the two intersect and where they don´t. Then he devotes a single chapter to each of:

progress
decline
collapse
recurrence
providence

The outcome of all of this analysis is a much better appreciation of how to draw conclusions from historical experience, AND how frequently many historians have NOT done a very good job with their generalizations. The problem is the readiness to argue by analogy and example rather than by principle and comparative analysis. Many good tools for thought are applied throughout these chapters.


You are incorrect in your views in my opinion. I believe this is due to ignorance. I have compassion for you. You have simply been misled. I´ll take the Pepsi Challenge against you any day.

I don´t know why I even bother trying to inject some reason in a place that is clearly devoid of it most of the time. The world isn´t, much to my dismay, a coke commercial where we all get along in simple harmony. I guarantee you that if Clinton didn´t have to suffer through Monica-gate, which thoroughly defeated any clout he could´ve had during his final term, he would´ve taken it harder to these killers. Then this would´ve been a war inherited already in progress. Instead his illicit behavior only served to leave a legacy of a war yet to be inherited and declared by extremists, to the next administration.

However, most liberals can´t see past the tips of their ideological noses to admit that the blame is plenty and that many they hold near and dear share in it.

I leave you to your regularly scheduled programming of mindless liberal hate spam here at GLP. You´ve created this pit of blind hate. There´s nothing anyone needs to say any longer that will save you from that dark minded place you´ve created to exist in.

I guarantee you that if Clinton didn´t have to suffer through Monica-gate, which thoroughly defeated any clout he could´ve had during his final term, he would´ve taken it harder to these killers. Then this would´ve been a war inherited already in progress. Instead his illicit behavior only served to leave a legacy of a war yet to be inherited and declared by extremists, to the next administration.


You´re obviously out of reality.

Sort of a roundabout way of blaming Clinton for a war started by BushI and restarted by BushII.
I still can´t figure out what it was that Iraq did to the US.

Out of reality Arizona? What part of the Clinton Iraq agenda didn´t you understand? His indescretions in the WH lead to his inability to facilitate his Iraq Policy the way he wanted to and thus made us impotent overseas. That gave those who were waiting and planning to attack us on 911 free reign and little resistance.

Maybe you should take a refresher course in political history.

Ice Cream!!

Forcryingoutloud!

Clinton is gone.

G*O*N*E.

Five years now.

Where is your OUTRAGE over the bushchit THIS administration is perping??? Where is your OUTRAGE over the THOUSANDS OF DEATHS AND RAPE of the American taxpayer over the costs of this sham war?

Dayumit, woman/man, get with the current situation.

Geeze.

>>That gave those who were waiting and planning to attack us on 911 free reign and little resistance.<<

You´re so stupid I´m surprised I even bother to tell you. You are sofa king stupid.

Hey, if you really want to get to the root of the problem, then it´s all about the Brits and the Balfour Declaration.

But then a case can be made that the Muslim problems in the mideast began with the Crusades, though others will argue that Caesar started it all. Maybe Alexander the Great or Sulyman started it all. whatever.

But that´s the chickenshit way of dealing with the issue.

What happened this week is this: Fitzgerald uncovered enough dirt to indict Libby on 5 counts. These counts hint at manipulation of intelligence, including the forged Nigerian yellow cake papers and drafts of Colin Powel´s UN speech written by Libby -- and this forged document was used in bush´s 2003 SOTU as part of the case to go to war.

The Senate Select Intelligence Committee was committed to producing a Phase II investigation into whether any intelligence was falsified or manipulated as justification for war. Very serious stuff, but Roberts held only one Phase II meeting in 2005, and blew off any queries that came close to the White House. Obviously partisan actions of Senators that care more about keeping control of their power than whether a war was started on false premises and Americans were killed for lies and war for profit.

These are questions that MUST be asked, since there is AMPLE evidence that collusion, graft, profiteering, cronyism, and utter ineptitude is killing our soldiers and bankrupting our country.

Americans who truly love their country want the answer to these questions. If the Democrats have to twist arms to get answers, then so be it.

To call this a "stunt" is thoughtless talking points babble. IceCream, you display insufficient analysis, just pea-brained knee-jerking. You disappoint with your refusal to read and do research other than parrot limbaugh.

Ice Cream,

You´re going to continue to exist in an internally dissonant state until you get with the facts of the matter and come to terms with the mass amount of ACCOUNTABILITY that our current leaders need to demonstrate. You see, the lying cannot continue. It´s Evil. Plain and simple.

Another thing, look at what is going on in France. You think these people do not need to be stopped??? Come on dems give this crap up. Bush along with many democrats saw that these muslin wackos needed to be put in their place in the world and we are doing it. You are only giving them MORE POWER in trying to make it look like Bush had no reason to give them hell.
You are whining to our own death if you keep this up.
They see we are divided more and more each week. They see the weakness they are causing. United we stand against these nuts. Divided we fall. The way you all are working it we will be in a world war again.

Its very easy ARI to say that some one is lieing. Seems all the dems say it. Where is the proof that would stand up in a grand jury? Not a . Not one thing lied about other than you and others lieing about there are lies!

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