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The Greek Revolution has started - Updated with videos - Extreme police violence

 
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I think the U.S should just drop a nuke on em and be done with it..WE HATE YOU!!!!!!!huffy
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I'm in the US and I don't hate Greeks. So shut the fuck up.
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May the people of Greek be destroyed by a nuclear attack...amenviolin
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please do tell us more about your ignorance.
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You want more ignorance you sniffling fool?
Us Americans are so sick of hearing about these idiots we just want them all dead..they make us sick.
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May the people of Greek be destroyed by a nuclear attack...amenviolin
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please do tell us more about your ignorance.
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You want more ignorance you sniffling fool?
Us Americans are so sick of hearing about these idiots we just want them all dead..they make us sick.
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ahaha Yes please don't stop, go all the way. It's by speaking with people like you that we understand why a wonderful country like the US only has idiots running for president. They are needed so people like you can relate.
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Americans are the most doped up, idiotic people I ever witnessed. At least the Greeks have balls to actually get up and do something rather then just signing electronic petitions, standing on the street with signs and get bitched around with riot protection cops who use pepper spray. Not even the cops of America care about its own people, which is pretty sad
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Americans are the most doped up, idiotic people I ever witnessed. At least the Greeks have balls to actually get up and do something rather then just signing electronic petitions, standing on the street with signs and get bitched around with riot protection cops who use pepper spray. Not even the cops of America care about its own people, which is pretty sad
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Then why don't you pack up your shit and get the Hell outta here you piece of poop.
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May the people of Greek be destroyed by a nuclear attack...amenviolin
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please do tell us more about your ignorance.
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You want more ignorance you sniffling fool?
Us Americans are so sick of hearing about these idiots we just want them all dead..they make us sick.
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Lets see how your hubris and big-mouth sound from inside a FEMA camp fence... i bet you never got hit by tear gas your entire life...sitting there behind a computer screen bad-mouthing an entire nation wishing them death, shining a very bad light on a great nation you come from... your masters have programmed you well, next time you look in the mirror you should pity yourself... i bet you go to church every sunday and consider yourself a "good" person... tada mothersucker... if there s hell below, were ALL gonna go...
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I think the U.S should just drop a nuke on em and be done with it..WE HATE YOU!!!!!!!huffy
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You are the kind of person that gives the USA a bad name. You are uneducated, more than likely untraveled, asshat.
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That is a big problem I think with many US citizens, they are inexperienced with the world outside of it's borders. Take for example the UK, a third of it's population leave the UK every year, to go to another country. I have lost count of the number of countries I have visited and lived in in my life, as a rough guess I would put it at (thinking)....40, and lived in 5 other countries. That gives you a huge perspective and empathy with other peoples and nations.

To be frank I have never been to the States, never wanted to in the past, and certainly do not want to go there now, I go East, I feel safer in Moscow than I know I would in, Alabama for example. I lived in India for a whole year, travelling the country extensively, and never felt unsafe anywhere I went. I have travelled the around the middle east, north Africa, the whole of Eurasia practically, but this is not uncommon for Europeans, but most uncommon for Americans.

Americans have a PR problem, they are perceived wrongly I know as all being Budweiser swigging, Big Mac eaters, all with a mentality of GW Bush jnr with a 'shock and awe' military mindset. To some extent this is true for many Americans, especially those of low academic ability, of which I know there are many.

This needs to change if America really wants to participate meaningfully with our global family of humankind. I thank you for reading this, please do not take it personally, as stated not all Americans are like this, I know many myself personally, many are friends, they too have made statements such as yours above. Best wishes to you there.
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Sir, no offense, but you sound like someone who has long harbored a bigoted view of my country, without ever having set foot in it

I might say that given the horror stories I read of yob attacks, race wars and socker hooligans and binge drinking I have no desire to visit the UK

If you're the sort of person who would feel more at home in Moscow to begin with, and who feels 100% comfortable making vast generalizations about a large population of people you have never met, based on quite biased media reports that we here have no control over, then I don't think anything is going to change your mind.

The fact that a large majority of Americans turned around after George Bush and overwhelmingly voted for a black president with a muslim last night, had no effect on you or others who were determined to dislike us anyway


Again, no offense, but it seems your mind is quite closed on the subject, so its doubtful much would change your opinions for the better and just about anything would only reinforce the negative stereotypes you have already harbored for decades.

Just be honest about it.

Peace
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Where is Riot Dog when you need him? Come back Sir Riot Dog and bite some butts!!! s226
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May the people of Greek be destroyed by a nuclear attack...amenviolin
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please do tell us more about your ignorance.
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You want more ignorance you sniffling fool?
Us Americans are so sick of hearing about these idiots we just want them all dead..they make us sick.
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Talk for yourself fluoridated burgerbrain.
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Live feed of police and people going at it !

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I think you are in the ten stupidest posters I have seen on GLP. Congratulations . Sorry, didn't post to AC 412. that is whom I speak too.

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I think the U.S should just drop a nuke on em and be done with it..WE HATE YOU!!!!!!!huffy
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You are the kind of person that gives the USA a bad name. You are uneducated, more than likely untraveled, asshat.
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That is a big problem I think with many US citizens, they are inexperienced with the world outside of it's borders. Take for example the UK, a third of it's population leave the UK every year, to go to another country. I have lost count of the number of countries I have visited and lived in in my life, as a rough guess I would put it at (thinking)....40, and lived in 5 other countries. That gives you a huge perspective and empathy with other peoples and nations.

To be frank I have never been to the States, never wanted to in the past, and certainly do not want to go there now, I go East, I feel safer in Moscow than I know I would in, Alabama for example. I lived in India for a whole year, travelling the country extensively, and never felt unsafe anywhere I went. I have travelled the around the middle east, north Africa, the whole of Eurasia practically, but this is not uncommon for Europeans, but most uncommon for Americans.

Americans have a PR problem, they are perceived wrongly I know as all being Budweiser swigging, Big Mac eaters, all with a mentality of GW Bush jnr with a 'shock and awe' military mindset. To some extent this is true for many Americans, especially those of low academic ability, of which I know there are many.

This needs to change if America really wants to participate meaningfully with our global family of humankind. I thank you for reading this, please do not take it personally, as stated not all Americans are like this, I know many myself personally, many are friends, they too have made statements such as yours above. Best wishes to you there.
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I think the U.S should just drop a nuke on em and be done with it..WE HATE YOU!!!!!!!huffy
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You are the kind of person that gives the USA a bad name. You are uneducated, more than likely untraveled, asshat.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5089069


That is a big problem I think with many US citizens, they are inexperienced with the world outside of it's borders. Take for example the UK, a third of it's population leave the UK every year, to go to another country. I have lost count of the number of countries I have visited and lived in in my life, as a rough guess I would put it at (thinking)....40, and lived in 5 other countries. That gives you a huge perspective and empathy with other peoples and nations.

To be frank I have never been to the States, never wanted to in the past, and certainly do not want to go there now, I go East, I feel safer in Moscow than I know I would in, Alabama for example. I lived in India for a whole year, travelling the country extensively, and never felt unsafe anywhere I went. I have travelled the around the middle east, north Africa, the whole of Eurasia practically, but this is not uncommon for Europeans, but most uncommon for Americans.

Americans have a PR problem, they are perceived wrongly I know as all being Budweiser swigging, Big Mac eaters, all with a mentality of GW Bush jnr with a 'shock and awe' military mindset. To some extent this is true for many Americans, especially those of low academic ability, of which I know there are many.

This needs to change if America really wants to participate meaningfully with our global family of humankind. I thank you for reading this, please do not take it personally, as stated not all Americans are like this, I know many myself personally, many are friends, they too have made statements such as yours above. Best wishes to you there.
 Quoting: ZIPUX




Sir, no offense, but you sound like someone who has long harbored a bigoted view of my country, without ever having set foot in it

I might say that given the horror stories I read of yob attacks, race wars and socker hooligans and binge drinking I have no desire to visit the UK

After reading of daily neo-nazi attacks on immigrants in Russian cities, I as a visible minority certainly have zero desire to visit Moscow, so you see, we can have very different viewpoints.

If you're the sort of person who would feel more at home in Moscow to begin with, and who feels 100% comfortable making vast generalizations about a large population of people you have never met and will never meet in person, based on quite biased media sources that we here have no control over, then I don't think anything is going to change your mind.

The fact that a large majority of Americans turned around after George Bush and overwhelmingly voted for a black president with a muslim last name, has had no effect on you or others who were determined to dislike us anyway

I am blessed to have traveled extensively through the world, and I realize on returning to the United States that the majority of Americans I meet are far more welcoming and genuinely friendly than most of the so-called "developed" world I have lived or spent time in.

Yet, as you say, we get a bad rap.

Frankly, I am beginning to understand why there were those of my father's generation who finally developed a "fuck the rest of the world" attitude, because even in the 1950s 60s and 70s, the Europeans and many South Americans were eager to gleefully bash anything American, no matter what we did.

If we sent aid, we got no thanks, if we didn't intervene, then we were told we weren't doing enough, but when we did help (as recently as Haiti after the earthquake) then there were those who suggested we were doing it out of selfish motivations

Can't win, why try is what some finally decided.

I am not one of those, because we all have a personal responsibility to rise above petty national interests and become global citizens, but I have to say when I read posts like yours I just want to throw in the towel sometimes

Again, no offense, but it seems your mind is quite closed on the subject, so its doubtful much would change your opinions for the better and just about anything would only reinforce the negative stereotypes you have already harbored for decades.

Just be honest about it.

Peace
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Revolution is TOO LATE. NOT going to happen. Germans and Greece Police are using chemical weapons against the Greek people. It's done. Same thing will happen in the states if any of you get too uppity. Go back to sleep. Nothing to see here.

The Human Race and all of western society are finished. Done!

Slavery and Fascism is the present.

Ok?

Next?

coffee4
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MEASURES APPROVED....

MARKETS ALREADY GOING UP....

ANOTHER EPIC VICTORY FOR TPTB...

ANOTHER EPIC FAIL FOR ALL THE REST...

N.W.O. HAS WON ANOTHER BATTLE...

.....SORRY BUT NOTHING WILL EVER CHANGE...

...DEAL WITH IT!!!!
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Revolution is TOO LATE. NOT going to happen. Germans and Greece Police are using chemical weapons against the Greek people. It's done. Same thing will happen in the states if any of you get too uppity. Go back to sleep. Nothing to see here.

The Human Race and all of western society are finished. Done!

Slavery and Fascism is the present.

Ok?

Next?

coffee4
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At least the Greek's are fighting back you chump, not typing from their cosy little rooms.
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[link to twitter.com]


GREEKS take over TV Station


[link to www.cretetv.gr]
[link to delicast.com]

Whoever has the media wins the war.

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Americans are the most doped up, idiotic people I ever witnessed. At least the Greeks have balls to actually get up and do something rather then just signing electronic petitions, standing on the street with signs and get bitched around with riot protection cops who use pepper spray. Not even the cops of America care about its own people, which is pretty sad
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Then why don't you pack up your shit and get the Hell outta here you piece of poop.
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Nah I'm good, how about I report you for being a terrorist and then get locked up indefinitely by your precious Gestapo of America, the land of the MOST FREE!? OOOO the Irony
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Back to subject, don't you think Greeks are being pushed out of the Euro ? Cutting the minimum wage to less then 500 euros, I can't imagine people letting that pass. Right? Plus their debt will keep rising..
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Some pictures from today

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I hope the greek government bust out the tanks and start blastin' all those rioters and have the U.S sweep in with a nuclear attack and rids this earth of all that low down dirt stinkin' scum!!!!!!!!!!

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I hope the greek government bust out the tanks and start blastin' all those rioters and have the U.S sweep in with a nuclear attack and rids this earth of all that low down dirt stinkin' scum!!!!!!!!!!

abomb
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your a dumb ass
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MEASURES APPROVED....

MARKETS ALREADY GOING UP....

ANOTHER EPIC VICTORY FOR TPTB...

ANOTHER EPIC FAIL FOR ALL THE REST...

N.W.O. HAS WON ANOTHER BATTLE...

.....SORRY BUT NOTHING WILL EVER CHANGE...

...DEAL WITH IT!!!!

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sad day
I stand with the people
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MEASURES APPROVED....

MARKETS ALREADY GOING UP....

ANOTHER EPIC VICTORY FOR TPTB...

ANOTHER EPIC FAIL FOR ALL THE REST...

N.W.O. HAS WON ANOTHER BATTLE...

.....SORRY BUT NOTHING WILL EVER CHANGE...

...DEAL WITH IT!!!!

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sad day
I stand with the people
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of course I stand with the people too...

but now i am 200% convinced the war it's over and TPTB has won the all thing...sad but true
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MEASURES APPROVED....

MARKETS ALREADY GOING UP....

ANOTHER EPIC VICTORY FOR TPTB...

ANOTHER EPIC FAIL FOR ALL THE REST...

N.W.O. HAS WON ANOTHER BATTLE...

.....SORRY BUT NOTHING WILL EVER CHANGE...

...DEAL WITH IT!!!!

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sad day
I stand with the people
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Ditto ^^^
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Some of the posts on this thread about the people of Greece just rip my heart out. So much hate and a lot of generalized accusations.

I can not abide the taking of pleasure in watching and wanting another person to suffer. For the love of Mankind, people, realize that what is happening in Greece could just as easily be happening to any of us.

The Man that I see is the Man that I am.
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Revolution is TOO LATE. NOT going to happen. Germans and Greece Police are using chemical weapons against the Greek people. It's done. Same thing will happen in the states if any of you get too uppity. Go back to sleep. Nothing to see here.

The Human Race and all of western society are finished. Done!

Slavery and Fascism is the present.

Ok?

Next?

coffee4
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At least the Greek's are fighting back you chump, not typing from their cosy little rooms.
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Only a Non-activist would interpret my post as that of a non-activist. I've taken the hit fella not you.
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I totally respect these Greeks who fight for what is morally right, the way I do Abe Lincoln.
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MEASURES APPROVED....

MARKETS ALREADY GOING UP....

ANOTHER EPIC VICTORY FOR TPTB...

ANOTHER EPIC FAIL FOR ALL THE REST...

N.W.O. HAS WON ANOTHER BATTLE...

.....SORRY BUT NOTHING WILL EVER CHANGE...

...DEAL WITH IT!!!!

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sad day
I stand with the people
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of course I stand with the people too...

but now i am 200% convinced the war it's over and TPTB has won the all thing...sad but true
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Please have hope...its just a vote in a building by a bunch of cowardly and irredeemable men and women, who have shown their character (or lack of) for all to see

Kudos to that brave handful of Greek representatives who refused to go along with this travesty. That is important to know as well, and we have to identify those who won't back down despite pressure and bullying.

This vote does not change anything where it counts: inside . People's eyes are awakening to the reality of their predicament, and that is a movement impossible to suppress. Enlightenment and awareness can happen in a heartbeat, and it spreads like lightning from person to person.

This is why the powers are so nervous, why they are reacting so harshly.

The truth will evolve over the coming weeks, and I believe there will be a significant change in Greek leadership before May

My father's family were French and half jewish. His step father and step-family vanished outside of Paris within 6 months after the Nazis entered France. My father was lucky to be in NY at the time, and he never forgot the difference a small stroke of luck made in his life. Our lives revolve by chance, which is why we cannot judge another's position, unless we have been in his or her shoes. There but for the fates go you or I, if it were not for circumstances of birth over which we have no control.

To people like my father and those living in the late 1930s, early 1940s, as they watched the Nazis roll through Poland, conquer and imprison one country after another, crushing any rebellion with extreme cruelty, as they watched harsh dictatorships spring up in Italy, Spain and Japan, things must have seemed hopeless, far worse than they are now

Nevertheless, they managed to survive that era and succeed, even if today it looks as we're rapidly headed back to a fascist world of control and repression

We've got to be made of stronger stuff, and not be so easily defeated. This is not a criticism, as it would be a blind fool not to feel some fear at the forces aligning themselves against humanity right now

However, we have got to believe there is more at work here than just headlines we're allowed to see.

We know that there are moves at work to eliminate choice on the internet, to suppress and censor news sources outside of the mainstream. Its time to remember what people of my dad's generation knew: how to perservere even in the absence of good news.

We've been very fortunate to have had this taste of community on the internet, and as long as it's permitted to exist we should make the most of it

However, should it vanish, we need to cultivate the inner resources, connect with the local communities of like mind in order to do what it takes to win the battle for the human spirit.

It comes down to us, right here, right now, and from what I can see time is growing short.

I remember asking my father if it was depressing to be 20 years old just as the world seemed it was falling apart...

He said no, that he and many of his friends felt like they had a tremendous mission to clean up the mess left by the previous generation. They had an optimism which I envy

I need to do this as well, and find ways to cultivate sources of optimism and hope for those darker times no doubt ahead of us

Be well friend, and find something that makes you happy as corny as it may be, something which keeps you on track, whether it be a movie, a book or a song.

These were two my dad would sing. Our generation in this struggle need to find or create our own. Simple things like music can make such a difference





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oh, i can see some retards with the "star and stripes" commenting about Greece. as an European living in the USA I can tell you that here are a lot of uneducated people, many of them living on food stamps but with mobile phones paid by the government.

some of them are waisting their lives on the Internet, of course when they are not playing some idiotic video games. don't be upset by their comments. they don't know anything about the rest of the world, they care only about their idiotic football "conferences" .

it is funny that I had to travel to the US first, in order to appreciate more my fellow Europeans. and it is funny to notice that only by entering into a grocery store here I instantly double the general IQ
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not "a lot" but lots and lots of uneducated people


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