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Why do even Atheists agree that Jesus Christ really existed even if they say they don't believe in God?

 
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Why do even Atheists agree that Jesus Christ really existed even if they say they don't believe in God?
Not believing in God, my ass!

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Re: Why do even Atheists agree that Jesus Christ really existed even if they say they don't believe in God?
a man can exist, can he not?
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Re: Why do even Atheists agree that Jesus Christ really existed even if they say they don't believe in God?
Because your version of GOD is a fairy tale. HE DOES NOT EXIST. The Bible / Koran are WRITTEN by MEN. RELIGION is fake. Your version of GOD is as real as the three little pigs...
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Re: Why do even Atheists agree that Jesus Christ really existed even if they say they don't believe in God?
I was raised an atheist and self-declared as an atheist for over 30 years, but I still believed there was an historical figure known as Jesus of Nazareth. I didn't accept him as being 'the only begotten son of God' or anything spiritual. I just saw him as a revolutionary and a champion of the underdog. I certainly didn't believe in God at that time (I was virulently and vocally anti-Christian and hated with a passion anything that had to do with Jesus as the Christ), but I had no problem believing that someone named Jesus of Nazareth once walked the earth or that he seemed to be an OK guy.

What's your point with this thread, OP?
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Re: Why do even Atheists agree that Jesus Christ really existed even if they say they don't believe in God?
Because your version of GOD is a fairy tale. HE DOES NOT EXIST. The Bible / Koran are WRITTEN by MEN. RELIGION is fake. Your version of GOD is as real as the three little pigs...
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God exists and is very real. Religion is the lie, not God.
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Re: Why do even Atheists agree that Jesus Christ really existed even if they say they don't believe in God?
Hey OP - Are you out trolling and name-calling on your own or did your god tell you to do it for him?
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Re: Why do even Atheists agree that Jesus Christ really existed even if they say they don't believe in God?
Because your version of GOD is a fairy tale. HE DOES NOT EXIST. The Bible / Koran are WRITTEN by MEN. RELIGION is fake. Your version of GOD is as real as the three little pigs...
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It is interesting you put it that way...are you the big bad wolf attempting to devour the little pigs?

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Re: Why do even Atheists agree that Jesus Christ really existed even if they say they don't believe in God?
The better question would be: Why do atheists talk about the subject of God more than Christians do?
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Not believing in God, my ass!

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well, I don't agree...so there.
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Re: Why do even Atheists agree that Jesus Christ really existed even if they say they don't believe in God?
Jesus existed, he just was not divine, easy to believe. The historian Josephus mentions him, yet no where else is he mentioned. I think he was a real dude, and a rebel to boot, but the son of God,,,, Come on.
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Re: Why do even Atheists agree that Jesus Christ really existed even if they say they don't believe in God?
The better question would be: Why do atheists talk about the subject of God more than Christians do?
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The OP is a christian. He raised the subject.
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Re: Why do even Atheists agree that Jesus Christ really existed even if they say they don't believe in God?
Because your version of GOD is a fairy tale. HE DOES NOT EXIST. The Bible / Koran are WRITTEN by MEN. RELIGION is fake. Your version of GOD is as real as the three little pigs...
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Can you prove that?

Just as I cannot PROVE there is a God, I cannot PROVE there is not a God.

Stop arguing about it, it is pointless, I KNOW that Jesus Christ is real and He died for our sins, but I can only tell you that and you can use your free choice given from the original sin in the garden of Eden to decide yourself.
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Re: Why do even Atheists agree that Jesus Christ really existed even if they say they don't believe in God?
Jesus existed, he just was not divine, easy to believe. The historian Josephus mentions him, yet no where else is he mentioned. I think he was a real dude, and a rebel to boot, but the son of God,,,, Come on.
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Yes, Jesus was/is God's messiah. That's what the 'son of God' means. The Hebrews were waiting for a messiah whom they referred to as the 'son of God'. The 'son of God' is meant in a spiritual not a physical way, as God is a spiritual not a physical being.
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Re: Why do even Atheists agree that Jesus Christ really existed even if they say they don't believe in God?
Because your version of GOD is a fairy tale. HE DOES NOT EXIST. The Bible / Koran are WRITTEN by MEN. RELIGION is fake. Your version of GOD is as real as the three little pigs...
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Can you prove that?

Just as I cannot PROVE there is a God, I cannot PROVE there is not a God.

Stop arguing about it, it is pointless, I KNOW that Jesus Christ is real and He died for our sins, but I can only tell you that and you can use your free choice given from the original sin in the garden of Eden to decide yourself.
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No, I can't prove if GOD isn't really there but it is REALLY useless in arguing about it so I live my life to a point where I don't give a fuck if there is one or not.
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Re: Why do even Atheists agree that Jesus Christ really existed even if they say they don't believe in God?
Because your version of GOD is a fairy tale. HE DOES NOT EXIST. The Bible / Koran are WRITTEN by MEN. RELIGION is fake. Your version of GOD is as real as the three little pigs...
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Can you prove that?

Just as I cannot PROVE there is a God, I cannot PROVE there is not a God.

Stop arguing about it, it is pointless, I KNOW that Jesus Christ is real and He died for our sins, but I can only tell you that and you can use your free choice given from the original sin in the garden of Eden to decide yourself.
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I think that free will precedes the garden-of-Eden choice, as otherwise Adam and Eve wouldn't have been able to make the choice to do something God specifically asked them not to do.

Original sin denotes the first choice away from God. Choosing not-God (temptation) opened the door to evil. But we had free will from the outset of our creation.
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Re: Why do even Atheists agree that Jesus Christ really existed even if they say they don't believe in God?
Because your version of GOD is a fairy tale. HE DOES NOT EXIST. The Bible / Koran are WRITTEN by MEN. RELIGION is fake. Your version of GOD is as real as the three little pigs...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1129585


Can you prove that?

Just as I cannot PROVE there is a God, I cannot PROVE there is not a God.

Stop arguing about it, it is pointless, I KNOW that Jesus Christ is real and He died for our sins, but I can only tell you that and you can use your free choice given from the original sin in the garden of Eden to decide yourself.
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No, I can't prove if GOD isn't really there but it is REALLY useless in arguing about it so I live my life to a point where I don't give a fuck if there is one or not.
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God's existence can only be proven by faith. He set it up that way so that people would come to him willingly, wanting what he offers. He doesn't want automatons. His spirit also works only through a believer's faith. You cannot prove any of the this, but neither can you disprove it. Paul says: "Faith is evidence", and I, a former atheist, now a believer, agree.
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Re: Why do even Atheists agree that Jesus Christ really existed even if they say they don't believe in God?
Because your version of GOD is a fairy tale. HE DOES NOT EXIST. The Bible / Koran are WRITTEN by MEN. RELIGION is fake. Your version of GOD is as real as the three little pigs...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1129585


Can you prove that?

Just as I cannot PROVE there is a God, I cannot PROVE there is not a God.

Stop arguing about it, it is pointless, I KNOW that Jesus Christ is real and He died for our sins, but I can only tell you that and you can use your free choice given from the original sin in the garden of Eden to decide yourself.
 Quoting: ExpertOfSound


No, I can't prove if GOD isn't really there but it is REALLY useless in arguing about it so I live my life to a point where I don't give a fuck if there is one or not.
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If you live your life as if God doesn't exist, you're not spiritually alive. We're not here for our own pleasure; we're here, as a soul incarnated in a body, to learn our "soul lessons" and bring others to the love of God. Living as if God doesn't exist will only lead you to hell, both here on Earth and after your bodily death.
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Re: Why do even Atheists agree that Jesus Christ really existed even if they say they don't believe in God?
there is no evidence for jesus outside the bible. Jesus is just a character in a book. much like harry potter
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Re: Why do even Atheists agree that Jesus Christ really existed even if they say they don't believe in God?
Not believing in God, my ass!

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I bet you atheists are a bunch of shy buggers, aren't yeah? rolleyes
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Feel free to present to the readers here just one piece of CONTEMPORARY (i.e. from the time DURING the alleged life of Jesus) evidence which proves that Jesus the supposed "Christ" ever existed.

You will be unable to present anything being that there was no Jesus, and that his story was patched together from stories much older than the 300 A.D. version.
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Re: Why do even Atheists agree that Jesus Christ really existed even if they say they don't believe in God?
Pray for God to reveal the truth to you.

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Re: Why do even Atheists agree that Jesus Christ really existed even if they say they don't believe in God?
Because your version of GOD is a fairy tale. HE DOES NOT EXIST. The Bible / Koran are WRITTEN by MEN. RELIGION is fake. Your version of GOD is as real as the three little pigs...
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God exists and is very real. Religion is the lie, not God.
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He never said God didn't exist. He said your version , meaning the Christian God, does not exist. Big difference.
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Re: Why do even Atheists agree that Jesus Christ really existed even if they say they don't believe in God?
Dumbass....

The Jefferson Bible, or The Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Re: Why do even Atheists agree that Jesus Christ really existed even if they say they don't believe in God?
Interesting argument op. I do not believe in god, yet I tend to agree with historians on the existence of the historical figure of Jesus of Nazareth. Interestingly, I can assure you no one ever lived in Palestine with that name during the time period of 5 BC to 6 AD. Remember, all names from the bible are Latinized. So, in actuality no one ever named Jesus of Nazareth existed. Now, there was a historical figure named Yeshua min Zareth. This person is the guy many westerners call Jesus of Nazareth. Now, do I think he had magic powers to heal, turn water into wine, or walk on water? Of course not. Anyone who believes these statements about this person is ignorant and simply needs to read a book or two. Now, let me ask you something. There are a number of monarchs (Egyptians, Romans etc) throughout history that represented themselves as deities, sons of deities, or other mystical figures. I believe that they existed, yet do not believe in their divinity (or anyone's for that matter).

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