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Jesus said: ‘Unless you change and become like children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.’ How are we to understand these words?

 
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Jesus said: ‘Unless you change and become like children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.’ How are we to understand these words?
"Jesus said: ‘Unless you change and become like children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.’ How are we to understand these words?
Those who are interested in making comparisons between man and animal emphasize the rapidity with which the baby animal develops and acquires autonomy. And what about human children! The slow pace of their development is obviously due to the great richness of human nature. So many elements must be put in place physically and psychically in order for children to take possession of all their faculties! Until they are able to do so, they need the help and protection of their parents. But the evolution of a human being does not end when his parents have finished playing their role, because man is also a spiritual entity who must continually progress. This is why on the spiritual plane, human beings will always be children in need of parents. One who wants to be a child in the sense that Jesus meant it must therefore acquire great knowledge, and the more he opens his heart to his spiritual parents and allows them to guide him, the more enlightened he becomes."

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it means to be born again. consciousness, we are all children we just under an illusion. Our minds are polluted. once you make yourself clean you'll think as a child. innocent. peaceful etc.
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one of my two brothers used to come home with sticks when he was a kid, the other used to come home with stones (in his mouth) and I used to come home with broken bits of machinery.
true story.
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Re: Jesus said: ‘Unless you change and become like children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.’ How are we to understand these words?
Yes. People often are so prideful and full of worldly love that it ruins any relationship they could have with Jesus.


"Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud."
-1 Corinthians 13:4


Jesus shows himself to everyone, but those who do not humble themselves and reject the world becoming like children w/ total faith and seeking guidance in him cannot grasp how Jesus can change you, he can change you even if you are struggling with addictions and love of the material world while you are seeking him.

Then Jesus said to them, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood, you have no life in you. Whoever eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. For My flesh is food indeed, and My blood is drink indeed." John 6:27-58

You adulterous people, don't you know that friendship with the world is hatred toward God? Anyone who chooses to be a friend of the world becomes an enemy of God.
-James 4:4

Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
-Galatians 6:7

Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
-Colossians 2:8

Rev 13:9-10 If anyone has an ear, let him hear. He who leads into captivity shall go into captivity; (Betraying your family and friends) he who kills with the sword must be killed with the sword. (Guns!) Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.
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Jesus's real message,the body neither lives nor dies
To All, Death, what seems to be unfair is just your finite understanding of the infinite.The one known to you as Jesus told us to seek the truth and the truth will set you free,by seeking you earn salvation.Here are some truths I have found by my seeking. Will which is the ability to choose to do a thing is the most important force in the Universe of Universes.When The First Source and center,The Father,The Thought and The Second Source and center,The Son,The Word have an individual collaboration and actualization of WILL,There Freewill,a co-creative creation comes into being.Will alone creates Spirit Sons, Paradise Creator Sons of the order of Michael,our Local Universe Son is Michael of Nebadon who Incarnated as Esu Immanuel known to most as Jesus.In order allow us to use our soul/mind (HUE MAN =LIGHT MAN)being to overcome the adversary,which is our ego entity of material self-hood,and achieve a Spiritual birthing without the benefit of physical evidence.This being able to have the wholehearted faith and trust of "a little child"in your unseen Spiritual Father.Until AT ONE MENT of Will of the ascending HUE MAN the soul is a seed that needs to be planted in the soil of desire to know your Heavenly Father,when the individual's soul/mind overcomes ego of self and attains AT ONE MENT of WILL and becomes one with the indwelling Father Fragment that being realizes its IMMORTALITY.Esu Immanuel(JESUS) left nothing behind of Himself to allow us the privilege of becoming "AGONDONTERS"( ones who can attain without proof of seeing),to be an agondonter is a most cherished and wonderful achievement!Esu Immanul(JESUS)left nothing behind (no writings,no art,no relic of any kind)for another reason,He did not want there to be anything left to start a religion or cult around His Person rather than His teachings. Saul of Tarsus A.K.A. Paul a pharisee composed the new testament ( hijacking the early followers of Esu's teachings)and turned the movement right back into the blood cult of the HEBREW RABBIS using the MURDERED Esu Immanuel(JESUS)as the SACRIFICE! I do however now have proof!I know by personal experience that paragraph 4 on page 1229 of "THE URANTIA BOOK" is the absolute, undeniable TRUTH and if that is TRUTH then the whole book is the TRUTH! Here is what I experienced. On June 28,1984 while working in my small plant nursery pulling weeds,I was attacked by a swarm of very tiny mosquitoes. They were the size of gnats and did not cause itchy bites,so I kept working.Went to bed and woke up the next morning so sick I could not move I was immobilized.I did not leave my bed for seven days and nights,did not eat or drink or go to toilet.Fever so bad covers on one minute off the next for seven days.Then on July 5, 1984 a few minutes before midnight I mustered up enough strength to get to the bathroom and take my temperature.I saw myself in mirror for first time in a week.I looked like DEATH WARMED OVER!My temperature was 104.5,I looked in the mirror then I looked at the thermometer then back in the mirror and then realized I was close to death.I said to myself well I guess this is it I am heading into the UNKNOWN!I laughed at the face of death!I got back into bed and thought what if my next breath is my last.It was, I had this thought,this prayer if you will that It is my WILL that THY WILL be done MY FATHER(a positive affirmation of WILL)^This is the "AT ONE MENT OF WILL wholehearted faith and trust in the unseen,the trust of a little child. At this moment time stood still,I turned to my right and said to my wife Laurie I am dieing I love you good bye.I then turned to my left and saw my clock tick to midnight,at this moment of non-time I felt myself vacate my body,it started at the tips of my toes and whooshed up my body when it reached my heart and brain I departed through the top of my head. Now all matter has faded away and I find myself as a little tiny light all alone in the darkness until I saw coming up from my right and from what seemed to be BELOW another light and it approached me and came to my side. I looked up and I saw another light a much much more brilliant and powerful light being on the other side of the portal,I knew that was my CREATOR FATHER and as I tried to reach for His helping hand the other being of light put up this barrier between us it was everything I ever did that hurt someone my sins if you will.I looked and saw my CREATOR FATHER still reaching for me even with all the error and s.i.n.(stuck in negativity)I committed.I turned to the being who came up from below and said be gone I go with my Heavenly Father and with that the EVIL PRINCE OF DARKNESS departed back to the pit of DARKNESS he left screaming in defeat ! I then took part in a seven hour debate with my CREATOR over going directly to heaven with Him. He said what of your wife and children,I said they will be all right because they have You.He said what of your business and all your projects and art,I said they mean nothing now that I am in your presence.Then My CREATOR said because you were able to have the faith and trust of a little child and achieve AT ONE MENT OF WILL and give birth to your seed soul I want you to go back into the Firmament back to the density of matter and tell them ALL,so I had to relent.It was His plan that I come back and tell you all!I awoke with my head still looking at the clock as it turned to seven. The Creator Son,Paradise Son The MICHAEL OF NEBADON and His bestowal personification in incarnation ESU IMMANUEL are REAL and always here for all who so choose of your own FREEWILL!!!!!!!!!!!!! Fear is the opposite of Faith HAVE NO FEAR LEARN THE TRUTH BY SEEKING AND HELP YOUR FELLOWS BY PASSING IT ON FREELY [link to www.urantia.org] THE BODY NEITHER LIVES NOR DIES THE SOUL/MIND HUE MAN LIGHT MAN LIVES AND IS IMMORTAL,THE LIGHT BODY OF THE DENSITY SIMULATES LIFE!!! the white rose
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Re: Jesus said: ‘Unless you change and become like children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.’ How are we to understand these words?
it means to be constantly in wonder of God's creation
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Re: Jesus said: ‘Unless you change and become like children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.’ How are we to understand these words?
It's the simplicity of salvation. God created us intending us to be His dwelling places....

Those who are childlike, in their innocence, are humble.......filled with humility. Pride blots out truth. Man thinks it takes vast education and knowledge to reach God. God is a God of truth and knowledge and in favor of knowledge; nevertheless man's knowledge is not the way man finds God. When God speaks through children, he baffles the "intelligent." God often uses children to teach truths adults will not face in order to demonstrate His greatness. You are speaking of Matthew 18:4 where Jesus says:
"Whoever then humbles himself as this child, he is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven." Those who come to God in simplicity, faith, and surrender .... those are the ones He saves.

The gospel of Christ is simple enough for a child and complex enough for the most brilliant. Moses, according to Numbers 12:3 was "the most humble man in the world." Whlle growing up in the royalty of Egypt, he received the best education the world had to offer. Yet he was the most humble man in the world. Jesus is speaking of humility.

I do not know what "version" of the Bible the OP of this thread is quoting from, but it loses some of the meaning from my trusted translation. Only those who are "born again" will enter the kingdom of heaven....those who are regenerated (reborn) through the power of the Holy Spirit as a result of repententance, changing direction, contrition for one's sins and humbling oneself, recognizing the need for the Savior, Lord and Creator of all. Childlike humility does not mean ignorance or giving up one's brain.
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Unconditional love for God and all the beings! No judgement no greed no hate towards eachother

Children of God in the purest sense //// Love
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Re: Jesus said: ‘Unless you change and become like children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.’ How are we to understand these words?
Its psychological.

At a certain point you become a 'burden' to society so they throw you away...
You become like a child again... Jung explains it quite well.
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It means to do exactly what daddy says, quit asking questions, and suck on this so God wont hate you..
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Re: Jesus said: ‘Unless you change and become like children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.’ How are we to understand these words?
Its psychological.

At a certain point you become a 'burden' to society so they throw you away...
You become like a child again... Jung explains it quite well.
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Dude i know u not serious..doesnt even make sense
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Re: Jesus said: ‘Unless you change and become like children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.’ How are we to understand these words?
could mean unworldly, unsophisticated.
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"Jesus said: ‘Unless you change and become like children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.’ How are we to understand these words?
Those who are interested in making comparisons between man and animal emphasize the rapidity with which the baby animal develops and acquires autonomy. And what about human children! The slow pace of their development is obviously due to the great richness of human nature. So many elements must be put in place physically and psychically in order for children to take possession of all their faculties! Until they are able to do so, they need the help and protection of their parents. But the evolution of a human being does not end when his parents have finished playing their role, because man is also a spiritual entity who must continually progress. This is why on the spiritual plane, human beings will always be children in need of parents. One who wants to be a child in the sense that Jesus meant it must therefore acquire great knowledge, and the more he opens his heart to his spiritual parents and allows them to guide him, the more enlightened he becomes."

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It is very simple:

If the human species persist in using its power to develop new and improved methods of killing humans, then humans will be extinguished by their own hand.

If the human species chooses to use its power to develop interstellar spacecraft to propagate the species and give life/liberty to all, then humans will join the 'kingdom of God.'

This is a no brainer.
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Lord Sideous said "Goood! I can feel your anger. It gives you focus...makes you powerful."
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Childen are naturally curious and have not yet become fully programmed by the society and cultures they are raised in. You must return to that state of natural curiosity, for that is GOD mind, not your programmed ego mind of earth. Its just that simple. It is not a complex teaching.
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painfully stoopid gawd crap
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Re: Jesus said: ‘Unless you change and become like children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.’ How are we to understand these words?
actually noone has got it so far.. it means that u have to raise your vibration and doing so relegates fear. fear dissipates the more higher your energy centres are activated and vibrate on a higher frequency.
As children do not know fear the first time anything bad happens to them , so it is when you are in this state.
the person cannot feel it as to them it is not there.

i lack the ability to describe it in words exactly as it is, but it is close.
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Scientists have thoroughly researched the brain waves of children. They found that children spend most of their time in either the “alpha ... Brain waves: Children vs. Adults


[link to 4mind4life.com]
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"Jesus said: ‘Unless you change and become like children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.’ ."

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It is very simple:

If the human species persist in using its power to develop new and improved methods of killing humans, then humans will be extinguished by their own hand.

If the human species chooses to use its power to develop interstellar spacecraft to propagate the species and give life/liberty to all, then humans will join the 'kingdom of God.'

This is a no brainer.
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I really like your explanation. WE won't get those interstellar craft though, until the human race is at peace and has rediscovered Peace, to produce life and liberty for all. Only ones who have done that can sail the cosmos. Until then they will live on prison worlds. For the kingdom is the cosmos, the Mind of God. Until they develop God mind, they will not move off the planet.
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Little Children do not judge others.
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Children do not associate themselves with religion or religious beliefs(~). They're still in God's realm, not man's.

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We get the powers over us that we've earned collectively. Humanity, as a whole, is self-interested, shallow, ignorant, violent and immoral; small wonder, therefore, that our leaders (secret or otherwise) reflect that. You want better leaders, become better people.

I forgive myself, I Love myself, I'm sorry, Please forgive me, I forgive you, I love you, Thank you.

God Bless You;
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Bless Yourself(~).

Love is the answer ~ Peace be with You.
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If you're American, you can somehow understand them as 'Jesus wants us to destroy our enemies, and poor people should either learn to feed themselves, or die'.
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Two words mate: Innocent and sincere - as children are
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We are saved by faith.


The faith that is required is total.....giving yourself completely to Christ.


A child has this type of faith in his parents.....total....and without reservation. His life is in their hands.....and he is totally dependent upon them.
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Re: Jesus said: ‘Unless you change and become like children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.’ How are we to understand these words?
Ok, looking at the words left behind.

Looking at past moment of a let's say seven year old.
Could be yourself Or a real memory of a child that age.
Deep breath.

What does that child contain that may not be readily seen or
how does a child be. Do during his day, and not do?

Does he vibrate higher?
Or maybe hold something?

What is a Childs soul voltage compared to that which is later?
Depends probably.

Maybe all or some. And maybe not must.
Riddlez. Best thought i reckon.

Don't know, do know, who knows...
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A child is born with no knowledge of good and evil nothing but curiosity and a will to live that is what it is to be a child.
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The adult world got to you at some point but long ago you were a kid with a heart that was alive. You felt a tremendous orgasmic like feeling in your heart. It was called love. Years later through education and worry you just sorta lost that feeling.

Jesus must of meant to get to heaven you must have that burning flame of orgasmic feeling radiating in your chest. Those of us without that burning feeling are dead. The walking dead.

For me shrooms always reawaken that burning orgasm in my heart. Never fails. Ironic that some people say that Jesus was the mushroom god
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Break stuff, shout a lot, run around like you're on drugs, behave irrationally and irresponsibly with no thought about the consequences. Rely on somebody else for everything you need and never go to bed if there is something going on downstairs...Hmmmm, seems christians took his advice :-)
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Break stuff, shout a lot, run around like you're on drugs, behave irrationally and irresponsibly with no thought about the consequences. Rely on somebody else for everything you need and never go to bed if there is something going on downstairs...Hmmmm, seems christians took his advice :-)
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A Child is innocent and blameless....

A Child looks to his Parents for Guidance and Protection

A Child looks to a place he is looking forward to going to with Joy and Excitement...



Will you present yourself before GOD as a Child?

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