Did anyone of you ever really knew a freemason personally? I did...

Op is correct for the most part.
Corrupt little fuckers where I live tho.

I'm in the british isles, slap bang in the middle.

Unfortunately, I put it away for safe keeping but it seems that it was a good hiding place because I can't find it! I believe there were two rings, and I got one and my father has the other that has diamonds and such in it. The one I was given is similar to this:
[link to www.google.com]

I know one, he loved to flaunt the symbolism & material things shamelessly.

How can something be considered Babylonian when it predates that city and culture?

Babylon and Egypt are metaphors, as is Israel.

I wanna know them, and be invited - how to do this?

when you look at the tens of thousands of bondage websites on the internet, where do you think these people come from? That's what they do in masonic rituals. The people are so traumatized they almost never even remember it, but the trauma becomes the dominant controlling part of their psyche. It becomes the higher, central nervous system, this entity that can provoke paralysis of the conscious mind through terror.

I wanna know them, and be invited - how to do this?

I hear you must perform some pretty creepy rituals, on a crossroad in the middle of the night, and then Lucifer will appear and he'll present you with an application-form

I know the local lodge - right near hehe Rothschilds (WI) - I sorta try to self initiate now... well order anyway :-) chaos is needed too though and is important, so..I can create order from it!! :-)

its a dual world, lucifer is needed to balance wioth "good" you gotta have both or remove both "good " and "evil" seriously

A--------.----------B thats the design mirror opposites are A and B everything follows this design

If you know masons then you should know their sworn to secrecy.

I know the local lodge - right near hehe Rothschilds (WI) - I sorta try to self initiate now... well order anyway :-) chaos is needed too though and is important, so..I can create order from it!! :-)

Metaphorically speaking

My Dad is a 32nd degree Mason. He only said one thing to me ever about prophecy. It was this:

When the mosque falls, it will be the beginning of the end.

I live net door to a freemason temple, yes that is what they call it, not a lodge.

they are advertising for members and curious people can go and look and join if they

want.

my house is the former grand poobar masons dwelling. it is eighty years old and very well

built, the poobar and many other masons were killed fighting ww2.

there isn't much secrecy involved in what goes on in their temple, ive watched their

gatherings often from my deck.


it all seems rather dull.

My grandfather was a mason. After he died my dad gave me his ring. I've always wondered if the ring denotes the degree of the mason as I have no idea what level he had attained.
Anyway, he was an extremely straightforward man, not into non-sense of any kind. He was a navy man and an engineer. If he had even the slightest inkling that freemasonry was about anything satanic, magickal, astrological, etc. I'm sure he would not have continued his involvement. There was nothing ritualistic about his funeral, but there were many elderly masons with aprons attending the service. Personally, I think it would be much more interesting if that were the case, but I have a copy of the masonic bible and have not seen anything unusual in its pages.

There are fifteen degrees above 33 degrees. Those who are above the 33 are the ones who have the secrets and other untold influence on Washington and other sources of power.

My father is a freemason. He won't tell me anything, aside from little tidbits here and there. He likes to drop hints. From what I gathered, its nothing sinister or evil though. They do enjoy the benefits of such a large network though, he has stated that. So... let your mind wonder (well, without getting all crazy/paranoid). What benefits could such a large network of men, many established well within their careers and industry, have?

The absolute most I ever got from him; when you're called in for a favor, you have no choice. It doesn't matter what time of day it is, what the weather is like, or if you are opposed to the favor. When you're in debt, they own dat azz.

Really guys, its a good thing 8) Stop worrying so much. I can state, I wish we had more networks like the freemasons. It would be even better if we could be forthright about such networks, without fear of breaking any laws. The concept is progressive, socially reinforcing, and brings out the best of the group.

your gathering skills suck!

WOW. This is completely unfounded and untrue. I have participated in many different Masonic outings, and have never come across something as crazy outlandish like this user stated.

This is entirely a falsification and this person is stirring the pot of shit, once again.

Seriously, if you really looked into the facts, you would find Masonry to be quite the opposite of any of the behavior that you have stated above.

A friend of mine, who passed away last year, was an actual freemason. He had been an active member of his lodge for over thirty years.

We often spoke long and late hours about lots of stuff and obviously, being somewhat of a GLPer, I asked him about the freemasons secrets and plans for world domination.

When I did, he would always laugh at the idea. And mind you, this was not an evil (muhahaah) laugh, but just a little giggle in amazement of such silly thoughts.

He wasn't some satanic, narcissistic, evil mastermind either. He was just some poor old schmuck, struggling through life. Trying to do the right thing, but often ending up doing the wrong things. Just like the rest of us...

I truly believe that if there was a big plan being kept secret by the freemasons, he would know about it, after thirty years of being a freemason himself. Also, being an intuitive person, I would just have known if he was keeping some sort of huge secret from me. Which he surely wasn't.

The only thing which is being kept a secret is their initiation ritual, for people who first join the lodge. But that's only because it is really private and personal and up front knowledge of this ritual would inluence the pureness of the initiators reaction to this specific ritual, thereby rendering it useless.

All they ever do during their meetings, was dressing up in their costumes, eating and drinking together, following their rules and rituals and after that tell each other lots of stories. Nothing secret about that.

It's almost like a roleplaying game (LARP) to them. They really like their rituals though. On his funeral, he was dressed up in his suit, lying in a black and white checkered coffin, with all sorts of symbols and images on it. But with normal mourning and sad family and friends surrounding him. No scary and evil rituals there either.

Anyway, I do believe this world is being mislead by a dark energy, using secret goverments, the church and perhaps even et's, but I don't think freemasonry has anything to do with it. I think "they" just gave us freemasonry, to keep our focus occupied, while the real rituals stay out of sight.

What are your thought on this?

The multigenerational satanists use masons for a cover.

Masons serve Lucifer. Masons are on the road to hell.

Your friendly satanists are lying when they tell you anything else.