PREPPER's ---- Make a "Cooler" to store food & veggies when "tshtf"

awesome, thanks!

.. I am going to pull this one up on my computer in a sec ..

I recently read a good plan, from an american indian blog ..

You dig deep large cooler shape into the ground .. use pvc piping to line your spot .. fixing the pipes to all run into each other .. the top holes you pour water in ... and at night it will become extra cool if not frozen depending on the weather .. the storage can be as big or small as you want it .. I was just wondering how to keep the walls solid from falling in .. I guess if I used it only 4 months out of the year the dirt would be frozen ...

What do you think about this .. opinions .. modifications ... gonna go open your video in a sec ..

Cool, thanks OP.

Ive seen this in other vids..does anyone know if the pots have to be clay or can they be plastic or metal?

Looks like they need to be clay

I've used dug holes while on Deployments to keep things cool, so I see where your idea may work well.

thanks

I made a Rocket/Jet Stove this weekend. Worked very well, we cooked Hot Italian sausages and peppers.

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Nice .. I will give this a try ..

This summer .. if there is any sun ..

I am going to make a chicken wire grill with the cone reflection mirror under it .. seems to cook well distributing the heat evenly .. because it gets so hot .. and the wire spread apart .. just keep flipping ..

Awesome, gonna try too :)

Even I could do this, with a large clay planter around a smaller one. Going to try it.

But, what about dairy? I don't think I can dig out a cellar. How did people keep milk, eggs, butter back in the day?

Thanks for your thread btw.

I think 50 degrees is about all you can expect from the clay pots, but that will keep short term items chilled.

wear gloves when cutting the metal. I normally do but this I did not and I have about 20-30 nicks all over ... lol

doom prepper lady that was on the other night she brushed eggs with mineral oil and stored in cool, dry area, they keep for 6 to 8 months, entire egg must be coated with oil, tought it was a neat trick. as far as keeping dairy, like milk and butter dont know, blocks of cheese can be dipped in cheese wax to preserve for a long time.

any type of cooling that requires the evaporation of water is best done in an arid or desert environment, or else you end up with very moldy vegetables.

I know this to be true from experiments with a desert water bag, in the desert they work great, in humid climates they rot with mold.

Would you happen to have a link or a picture of this setup? I'm trying to visualize what it would look like. thanks.

Not sure about the "inner" one, but the outer one would most likely need to be clay because it "breathes" and absorbs moisture which would keep it cool.

Ha! Forgot about the wax thing - thanks! Also going to research WHY the oil would preserve eggs. That's weird. but also great.

Thank you.

the only thing that concerns me about the eggs is the temperature needed to keep salmonella from blossoming. someone wrote on another blog that salmonella was undetectable, but it seemed like they were trying to scare people off the idea.

so, what would be the min temp to keep eggs safe from salmonella?

prolly have to check the usda site, but no more time today...

thanks op

Eggs and butter were kept on the counter no refrig needed we still keep ours on the counter.

The key with the eggs is don't wash them when they come from the fowl.

Butter will keep for several weeks on the counter

As for milk if you don't use the amount you have daily or the next day at worst don't have a cow barter for what you need for the day or two.
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Make yogurt that's what it was used for in the day milk preservation.

Milk doesn't keep of course. Let it go sour and then dry it (freeze dry or heat to about 70°). Butter goes bad through contact with oxygen, so I suppose if you found an effective way of shielding it from the air it would keep a relatively long time.

Back in the old days they used a chemical dissolved in water for this (a silicate). I think it's called waterglass. It looks like colorless jelly enclosing the eggs.