I am a 3rd Degree Master Mason, ask me a question...

Just another way to separate you from your money. just like organized religion. Time=Money and so on. My brother is about to become 32 degree, and I know that he is so full of shit his kids eyes are brown. Not to put down the charity work but a secret club? Really? Thought that GOD didn't like secrets. Real G's are on the block, YA HEARD!!!

Thanks for the link Judethz but I've read them all.

Didn't mean to mock but these tracts scare me shitless- and for different reasons than you suppose. But everyone is entitled to their opinion

Ok,

3 things:

1.) If what Masons "teach" is secret, but anyone can join, why is it secret? What is the point?

2.) What does the "G" stand for in the Mason symbol and why?

3.) Why all the Masonry stuff with Washington DC, the dollar bill, and the founding fathers of the U.S.A? What was the point? Power?


Thanks.

LMFAO!!!!

3rd degree lmao what a fool, "So I will open up my heart and mind to you" if you understood freemasonry, if you did that you would pay with your life you get away with it cos your talking rubbish

From whence come you?

I just watched something quite silly on Youtube which made a correlation between Pearls and Swine. Went to a restaurant the other day and absolutely loved it! They served crab legs, clams on the half shell, bubba gump shrimp, fresh ham, fresh baked fish, every damn thing.

It was at that moment that the $7 i paid for the buffet meal...

Chinese food.

I almost puked - yet eating succulent - rare beef and savory pork in sweet sauce made me consider, why god can be so cagey.

Because, everyone thinks that what they have is THEIR OWN. Consider Melizadik and Abraham and his pagan counter part?

Freemasonry is a hidden fraternal order, and defined by them as a system of morality. The first three steps are the Blue Lodge. The first degree is called Entered Apprentice. The second degree is called Fellow Craft. The Third degree is called Master Mason. Most men only go to the third degree, but if one chooses, he may advance either through the York Rite or the Scottish Rite. The Scottish Rite has thirty-two degrees. In each degree, the Mason pledges himself to a different Egyptian deity. There is a thirty-third degree that is largely honorary, but the thirty-two degrees give you access to becoming a Shriner. As a Shriner you will place your hand on the pagan Muslim Qur'an (Koran) and pledge yourself to the pagan "god" Allah; who by the way lies that Jesus did not even die on a cross, and that God has no Son. This pagan 'Allah' never once shows that it knows the real name of God (Jesus/Yeshua/Yahweh/I am). [link to www.bibleprobe.com]


Freemasonry is the end time one world religion.

whats the name of the book written in 1927.
naming the date,of when t capitalism swallowing china, england giving back hong kong" to the exact year.
and the other trojan horse, the east wall coming down, these 2 events were planned well before 1927.whats the name of the book, please enlighten the readers

MIS/DISinformation above. Shriners take their oaths on the Koran but that is FAR from pleging one's self to Allah! Also, in the SR, one does NOT pledge themselves to ANY deity. In NO Masonic ritual does any initiate "pledge themselves" to any deity. Whoever wrote the above rubbish KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT MASONRY. Also, the Shrine accepts Master Masons now.

But you can't have a record...

the Illuminati?

Q: Was - and is - there an infiltration of the Masonic Order?

A: The Freemasons and the Illuminati are hand in glove. I don't care if this steps on any toes, it's a fact.

The masonic temple at Alexandria, Virginia (the city itself was named after Alexandria, Egypt, and is a hotbed of Illuminati activity) is a center in the Washington, DC area for Illuminati scholarship and teaching.

I was taken there at intervals for testing, to step up a level, for scholarship, and high ceremonies. The leaders in this masonic group were also Illuminists.

This has been true of every large city I have lived in. The top Freemasons were also top Illuminists.

My maternal grandparents were both high ranking Masons in the city of Pittsburgh, Pa. (president of the Eastern Star and 33rd degree Mason) and they both were also leaders in the Illuminati in that area.

Are all Masons Illuminati? No, especially at the lower levels, I believe they know nothing of the practices that occur in the middle of the night in the larger temples.

Many are probably fine businessmen and Christians. But I have never known a 32 degree or above who wasn't Illuminati, and the group helped create Freemasonry as a "front" for their activities.


THE ILLUMINATI BELIEVE THEY ARE GOOD – NOT EVIL

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I want to address another misconception. That is, the one that the Illuminists know that they are evil.

When I was in the group, I and those around me were ideologically committed to the agenda as being GOOD.

I thought I was helping others reach their full potential when I was a trainer.

I believed that after years of sweat and hard work, that my intelligence won out, and that I made an excellent leader.

I fought Jonathan and others on the council when I thought they were unfair, and stood up for the people beneath me. Others did the same. They honestly think they are doing a GOOD thing, and if you told them it was wrong, or evil, they would look confused.

It took a LOT of therapy and deprogramming myself, doing reality checks with noncult people to realize that it was all a lie.

I was devastated. I had dedicated my life to helping others bring in the glorious new order, and then found out it was EVIL and abusive. I went through a period of intense grieving/mourning over this.

Most Illuminists I knew weren't evil, they were deceived. Only the top leadership perhaps were consciously being hurtful.


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[link to www.divinecosmos.com] financial-tyranny?start=1

FUNDING THE “NEW WORLD ORDER”

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I saw a large amount of money being used to fund the projects of this group, funds that poured in from around the northern hemisphere and the world.

Couriers were sent to the corners of the globe, and many of the top financial institutions had a vested interest in bringing this "new world order" to pass.

This was discussed in leadership meetings; shown in videos to members of the group (such as the grainy films I saw in the 1960s showing a large round table with 13 members sitting around it, and the words "these are your leaders" spoken as the members rose and pledged allegiance to the coming new order.)

I will not mention the figures shown in this film in order to avoid the claim of "libel" but they were well known, influential, and many were behind the banking system of the modern world.

[DW: In this subsequent article, Svali revealed that the Rothschilds and Rockefellers both hold seats on the Supreme World Council that is intended to rule in “the New Order to come.”]

The Illuminati are funding this coming world order quietly, behind the scenes.

They believe that money not only "talks" as the saying goes, but buys media coverage, or silence; protection; and the influence needed to shape our modern world….

Are the Illuminati out to rule the world? Yes, and this is what they teach their members. They are working avidly towards this goal even as I write.


THEY ARE A VERY SMALL BUT POWERFUL MINORITY

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The Illuminati and their followers are a minority of our world's population. In San Diego county, where the population is over 2 million, there existed 5 years ago 24 sister groups with membership of roughly 60 to 75 each. Leadership council over the county was 13 members.

So, in a metro center with over 2 million, the active Illuminists comprised less than 1500 members. The Illuminati are possibly 1% to 2% of the population in the US.

What this means is that 99% of the people you know and work with are NOT Illuminati. They are good, hard working people (at least most are) who want a paycheck, and a good family life.

MOST of the leaders in our communities and financial systems have never heard of the Illuminati, because they are a minority.

So, why worry about them? Because a small group of evil people can do great damage. I will use an analogy.

MOST people in our society are not involved in child pornography, consider it a crime against children, and would fight against it given the chance.

Yet, the small minority of those involved in it do incalculable damage to the children involved. The effects of the crime are greater than the bare numbers involved.

Why isn't child pornography stopped? We have the evidence, law enforcement knows it exists, yet it is a multi-billion dollar industry.

HOW do these people "hide" from justice and capture? Why don't the police stop them? Because they aren't stupid.

They work under secrecy. They change locations frequently, and kill those who talk to law enforcement. Bribes and other means are used to cover their tracks, and they hire excellent lawyers.

Okay, now lets look at the Illuminists. The 1% of our nation involved are extremely intelligent. They have sworn an oath on pain of death from toddlerhood on to never reveal their true allegiance to outsiders.

You ride the goat yet?

Follow the links

First of all this guy has TERRIBLE grammar skills..... "
Trust me, after this system fails, and we live in a mad max type scenario...." then runs on another sentence with this statement which makes me think the guy is some kid who read a few books and is regurgitating something he has read in a book... all the while thinking he is channeling the spirit of pike. haha. WHY IS THIS PINNED???? I think the guy knows a mod or something. TAKE THIS CRAP OFF HERE!

My grandfather was a 3rd degree mason for many years before his death. He was a very loving and kind man. Him and my grandmother fostered over 200 children during their lifetime together. He gave tremendously to his community in times of need. I have great respect for masons.

Yes you can. I had a wrap sheet when I was I, P & R'd but nothing heinous. Underage consumption.

Luminous White A, in conjuction, i should ask, when is it time, to go 'back' to Centaur, The Devine Warrior.
The one with others whom , is present, at the entrance to the Dimension. Do I and my loved ones, have access to The Freehold, on that day,or night.

I once met a low grade mason ... nice guy ... most they seem to do in the low grades at least is drinking a lot and networking business connections.

Bemjamin Franklin was asking me to check it out from the radio the other day

Ha.

Well I found that there is much to explore within the first three degrees.

I have inquired about joining the York Rite, possibly over the summer.

I do not recieve any monetary gains from being an active Freemason. Nor do any brothers for that matter, no matter what degree.

It does not matter what you religion you gravitate too, as long as you believe in a supreme being, God, you will be accepted.

I actually am a born and raised Roman Catholic. Once again, religion does not matter.

I have read Morals and Dogma, and although Pike is (supposedly)a 33rd degree Mason, he has no more right and privileges to the lodge than I do.

I am not a 33rd degree mason, so I have not been to one of the meetings. In order to receive the 33rd degree, you to be voted in by your peers.




If I wanted to further my masonic education, I could. I plan on joining the York Rite this summer, and next year the Scottish Rite. I will be receiving all of the extra degrees, regardless of who I am.

Sure, you can send me a private message with your e-mail address and I will send you one back from mine asap.

Take care!

Being a Roman Catholic, I would tell Jesus Christ that I did my best to better human kind, as well as myself.

I would thank him for his sacrifices.





Honestly, I did bring about a certain kind of peace of mind.

It did not end my quest, if anything, it just added a fuel to the fire. Once one can gain knowledge, the mind and soul yearn for more.

Excellent post brother, it is what you make of it.

cant send messages now but i will when i upgrade

Stating you're a catholic doesn't help you much, salvation-wise, my friend:

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